Re: OT: Re: A rather long anecdote about upgrading
FYI, For WinXP, I like AVG- the free edition. Been using it for years with no problems. http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/5390/lng/us/tpl/v5#avg-anti-virus-free I'm not too big on Ram resident utils, but I am especially fond of: AutoDialogs - Like Boomerang used to be for Macs. Worth the price. Also check out their free download accelerator Download Express - best one I've found. http://www.metaproducts.com/default.asp NetMeter - let's me see how fast my uploads and downloads are in a very small window which I place at the top of my screen. FREE http://www.metal-machine.de/readerror/ Sizer - Can resize a window to a preset size. Useful for setting up programs when they launch to a certain window size. FREE http://www.brianapps.net/ Allway Sync - IMO, the best file/folder LAN sync software out there. Definitely worth the price. http://allwaysync.com/ FolderShare - Sync files/folders between PC's (and Macs) over the internet. Rock solid and FREE. https://www.foldershare.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: Runrev using Perl
Hello Bob, Linux in germany is not that wide spread at standard users. It is very popular in university sceens and computer freaks. I tried your picture chooser from your old site. Though I didn't get it to run yet - XP, 2.8.1(after including a path into the ini, the program just hangs and does nothing) I got an idea how to communicate. Your exe just outputs a txt file, which you read into runrev - quite easy! Thank you, Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bob Warren Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 06:19 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: AW: Runrev using Perl Tiemo wrote: Servus Franz, nice to meet you again. Interesting things you're doing there :) I am not familiar with shell commands yet, nor perl, but how do you get a result from the shell execution back into a runrev field feedback? Tiemo -- Hi Tiemo, I do something similar with Rebol scripts or standalones. The easy way to get results back is to delete any existing relevant output file on the HD from Perl first, and after calling your Perl module to do its job, poll the existence of its output file on the HD until it appears, and when it does, put it into the RunRev field. For an example of simple shell calls and this kind of polling, see my Linux chooser widgets at http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/stacks.htm . The demo pack you can download there is a standalone program, but there is a button you can click on to see the coding for the shell calls and polling. Or if you are using Windows, you can visit the old page (see the link at the top of the page mentioned above) and see the coding in the Choose File and Choose Picture buttons of the demo stack. For an example of the hybrid use of Rev+Rebol, you might be interested in downloading my Spam Gobbler program at http://www.howsoft.com/linux/ and http://www.howsoft.com/linux/spamgobbler/ . But that's Linux again, which I believe is quite popular in Germany, isn't it? Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: Runrev using Perl
Bob, roll back, I got it to run. Just did the wrong download at the right of the page, version 4.8. With 5.8 it works perfect! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 09:53 An: 'How to use Revolution' Betreff: AW: AW: Runrev using Perl Hello Bob, Linux in germany is not that wide spread at standard users. It is very popular in university sceens and computer freaks. I tried your picture chooser from your old site. Though I didn't get it to run yet - XP, 2.8.1(after including a path into the ini, the program just hangs and does nothing) I got an idea how to communicate. Your exe just outputs a txt file, which you read into runrev - quite easy! Thank you, Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bob Warren Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 06:19 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: AW: Runrev using Perl Tiemo wrote: Servus Franz, nice to meet you again. Interesting things you're doing there :) I am not familiar with shell commands yet, nor perl, but how do you get a result from the shell execution back into a runrev field feedback? Tiemo -- Hi Tiemo, I do something similar with Rebol scripts or standalones. The easy way to get results back is to delete any existing relevant output file on the HD from Perl first, and after calling your Perl module to do its job, poll the existence of its output file on the HD until it appears, and when it does, put it into the RunRev field. For an example of simple shell calls and this kind of polling, see my Linux chooser widgets at http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/stacks.htm . The demo pack you can download there is a standalone program, but there is a button you can click on to see the coding for the shell calls and polling. Or if you are using Windows, you can visit the old page (see the link at the top of the page mentioned above) and see the coding in the Choose File and Choose Picture buttons of the demo stack. For an example of the hybrid use of Rev+Rebol, you might be interested in downloading my Spam Gobbler program at http://www.howsoft.com/linux/ and http://www.howsoft.com/linux/spamgobbler/ . But that's Linux again, which I believe is quite popular in Germany, isn't it? Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
decoding quoted-printable
Hi friends, anyone already created a routine to decode quoted-printable encoded stuff? M$ still uses this long deprecated format (especially in vCards exported from MS Outlook) and is driving me nuts :-) Any hints that will save me the rest of my hair are very welcome! Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A rather long anecdote about upgrading
Hiya, Did you try to use XP's compatibility mode? Not always 100%, but I have had success with it on legacy software. Cheers, Luis. On 5 Jun 2007, at 01:52, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Unfortunately most software was unusable, either failing to see the modem at all, or failing to do anything with it. One of the products I tested gave a hint about the voice modem not having the needed windows telephone api version, but only an older one (said software was a UI nightmare, and crashed all the time, even when only choosing menus, but at least it told us what's wrong with our hardware, instead of silently ignoring it's existence). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
am I right with select and group?
Hello all, I'm not sure if my syntax is right, because I get unwanted results. What I want to do is to export a snapshot from two images as one image into the clipboard. I am doing this like: Select empty Show img a Show img b select img a and img b group set the name of last group to grpClipboard export snapshot from grp grpClipboard to tClipboardImage as PNG set the clipboarddata[image] to tClipboardImage select empty if exists(group grpClipboard) then select group grpClipboard ungroup end if hide image a hide image b select empty everything works fine, but from now and then another hidden group, named test gets shown und ungrouped, or gets the name grpClipboard. If it is not a bug, I assume my syntax with select and group isn't safe. Can anyone give me a hint, how to make this code more dafe, that always only my wanted images are selected and grouped / ungrouped? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: decoding quoted-printable
Klaus, this is a function from an old project that worked well enough for its purpose...maybe good enough for your needs? function decodeQP pStr put 0 into tc repeat for each char c in pStr if c is = then put 1 into tc if tc = 0 then put c after decodedStr else if c is not = then put c into char tc of hexVal add 1 to tc end if if tc = 3 then put numToChar(baseConvert(hexVal,16,10)) after decodedStr put 0 into tc end if end if end repeat return decodedStr end decodeQP Best, Mark On 5 Jun 2007, at 09:44, Klaus Major wrote: Hi friends, anyone already created a routine to decode quoted-printable encoded stuff? M$ still uses this long deprecated format (especially in vCards exported from MS Outlook) and is driving me nuts :-) Any hints that will save me the rest of my hair are very welcome! Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: am I right with select and group?
Hi Tiemo, You don't need to group your images. In addition, it seems that your syntax is not correct: export snapshot from grp grpClipboard to tClipboardImage as PNG export snapshot from RECT (THE RECT OF grp grpClipboard) to tClipboardImage as PNG You could try: local tRect, tClipboardImage - show img a show img b put the topLeft of img a,the botRight of img b into tRect -- assuming that img a is on the left :-) export snapshot from rect tRect to tClipboardImage as PNG Le 5 juin 07 à 11:39, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : Hello all, I'm not sure if my syntax is right, because I get unwanted results. What I want to do is to export a snapshot from two images as one image into the clipboard. I am doing this like: Select empty Show img a Show img b select img a and img b group set the name of last group to grpClipboard export snapshot from grp grpClipboard to tClipboardImage as PNG set the clipboarddata[image] to tClipboardImage select empty if exists(group grpClipboard) then select group grpClipboard ungroup end if hide image a hide image b select empty everything works fine, but from now and then another hidden group, named test gets shown und ungrouped, or gets the name grpClipboard. If it is not a bug, I assume my syntax with select and group isn't safe. Can anyone give me a hint, how to make this code more dafe, that always only my wanted images are selected and grouped / ungrouped? Thanks Tiemo Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: am I right with select and group?
On 5 Jun 2007, at 10:39, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: If it is not a bug, I assume my syntax with select and group isn't safe. I've had occasional problems with this, but not consistently enough to do a bug report. :-( Try replacing set the name of last group to grpClipboard with set the name of the selectedobject to grpClipboard this should mean that the correct group gets renamed, even if Rev is getting confused about which is really the last group. ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: decoding quoted-printable
Oh, and you'll probably need to isoToMac the result if you're on a mac. Best, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: decoding quoted-printable
Hi Mark, Klaus, this is a function from an old project that worked well enough for its purpose...maybe good enough for your needs? WON-DER-FUL! Thank you very much, this does help me A LOT! :-) function decodeQP pStr put 0 into tc repeat for each char c in pStr if c is = then put 1 into tc if tc = 0 then put c after decodedStr else if c is not = then put c into char tc of hexVal add 1 to tc end if if tc = 3 then put numToChar(baseConvert(hexVal,16,10)) after decodedStr put 0 into tc end if end if end repeat return decodedStr end decodeQP Best, Mark Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: decoding quoted-printable
Hi Mark, Oh, and you'll probably need to isoToMac the result if you're on a mac. Yes, sure, thanks for the reminder. Best, Mark Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1
This is my observation too and I think this should be corrected. On Windows Flash works as expected, so no double click is required. Ralf Bitter On 5. Jun 2007, at 05:55, Scott Rossi wrote: ... Flash interaction requires two clicks [doubleclick] as opposed to single click [normal behavior]). What else should we look for? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: am I right with select and group?
Thanks Eric and Ian, as ever instant and helpful comments, I'll give them a try! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian Wood Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 11:51 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: am I right with select and group? On 5 Jun 2007, at 10:39, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: If it is not a bug, I assume my syntax with select and group isn't safe. I've had occasional problems with this, but not consistently enough to do a bug report. :-( Try replacing set the name of last group to grpClipboard with set the name of the selectedobject to grpClipboard this should mean that the correct group gets renamed, even if Rev is getting confused about which is really the last group. ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: am I right with select and group? -- Bug difficult to catch
Yes I too think it is a bug, because it occurs irregular, but Ian's workaround with selectedobject works good for me. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Marielle Lange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 12:34 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: am I right with select and group? -- Bug difficult to catch Hi Ian, I've had occasional problems with this, but not consistently enough to do a bug report. :-( Could this be related to this: screencast: http://revolution.widged.com/bugs/selectedObjectAndGrouping.mov text describing the onscreen events: http://revolution.widged.com/bugs/selectedObjectAndGrouping.txt I hope you can see the video, that's quicktime format, it takes a bit of time to load as it is a bit long. What happens is that an object (a group) gets given the id of a group that already exists. There is already a related entry in the database. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4711 Best regards, Marielle Marielle Lange (PhD), http://widged.com Bite-size Applications for Education ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: decoding quoted-printable
Hi Mark, Klaus, this is a function from an old project that worked well enough for its purpose...maybe good enough for your needs? function decodeQP pStr put 0 into tc repeat for each char c in pStr if c is = then put 1 into tc if tc = 0 then put c after decodedStr else if c is not = then put c into char tc of hexVal add 1 to tc end if if tc = 3 then put numToChar(baseConvert(hexVal,16,10)) after decodedStr put 0 into tc end if end if end repeat return decodedStr end decodeQP Found a little inconvenience in the script, it will also swallow all = following 2 chars in the text, even if they are not in 123456789ABCDEF Know what I mean? I tried to check if the 2 characters AFTER a = are eventually hexadecimal with no succes. I used this little function: function ishex derchar if derchar is in 0123456789 OR (chartonum(derchar) 62 AND chartonum(derchar) 71) then return true else return false end if end ishex Am I missing something? Any further hints are even more appreciated :-) Best, Mark Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: decoding quoted-printable
Klaus, I just checked up on Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Quoted-printable and remembered why I didn't write a more complete function! (My use of it only involved very short strings - no line endings or other complications). A quick (and probably innacurate) reading of the wikipedia page suggests that the only non-hex characters that should follow an = would be Tab(9), Space(32), CR(10) LF(13), so maybe that could help? Best, Mark On 5 Jun 2007, at 12:12, Klaus Major wrote: function decodeQP pStr put 0 into tc repeat for each char c in pStr if c is = then put 1 into tc if tc = 0 then put c after decodedStr else if c is not = then put c into char tc of hexVal add 1 to tc end if if tc = 3 then put numToChar(baseConvert(hexVal,16,10)) after decodedStr put 0 into tc end if end if end repeat return decodedStr end decodeQP ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1
Hi There seem to be a few issues relating to revBrowser on OS X. Please consider voting for bug 4940.. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4940 regards alex Ralf Bitter wrote: This is my observation too and I think this should be corrected. On Windows Flash works as expected, so no double click is required. Ralf Bitter On 5. Jun 2007, at 05:55, Scott Rossi wrote: ... Flash interaction requires two clicks [doubleclick] as opposed to single click [normal behavior]). What else should we look for? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: decoding quoted-printable
Hi Mark, Klaus, I just checked up on Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Quoted-printable and remembered why I didn't write a more complete function! (My use of it only involved very short strings - no line endings or other complications). A quick (and probably innacurate) reading of the wikipedia page suggests that the only non-hex characters that should follow an = would be Tab(9), Space(32), CR(10) LF(13), so maybe that could help? Maybe, will try later this day. Thanks a lot for your help! Best, Mark Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: decoding quoted-printable
Just read a little more - you might also try this at the very start of the function: replace = numToChar(10) numToChar(13) with empty in pStr That sequence (I think) is the qp soft line break which is part of the encoding (which specifies no lines longer than 76 chars in the encoded data), not part of the original, un-encoded text. best of luck! Mark On 5 Jun 2007, at 12:41, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Mark, Klaus, I just checked up on Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Quoted-printable and remembered why I didn't write a more complete function! (My use of it only involved very short strings - no line endings or other complications). A quick (and probably innacurate) reading of the wikipedia page suggests that the only non-hex characters that should follow an = would be Tab(9), Space(32), CR(10) LF(13), so maybe that could help? Maybe, will try later this day. Thanks a lot for your help! Best, Mark Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac UB standalones and OS versions
I'll take your 8.6 and raise you 7.6.1. Not that that is much value in relation to this thread as Rev don't run that far back. Anyone need some HyperCard stacks tested ;-) Thank you for the belly laugh! Made my day! I do remember 7.5 and have a whole passel of Hypercard stacks that I've never had time to redo and move forward into Rev. I used addColor and sound channels so prolifically, that half the code would have to be commented out before I could import to Rev for a redo :-) Shari -- Windows and Macintosh shareware games BIackjack Gold http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Bundling
No - QTVR, but it does play everything, and it does play most of the QuickTime files I have tried better than QuickTime Player which I still find hard to believe. IMO it would be better to use a VLC based external than QuickTime for the majority of projects. On 02/06/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Talluto wrote: On Jun 2, 2007, at 12:22 AM, Scott Kane wrote: On another note - Linux and QuickTime. Are there any options for a Rev solution using QuickTime to be compiled for Linux and use one of the QuickTime replacements like QuickTime for Linux that seem to exist? Right now we are stuck with the very antiquated xAnim. I am hoping that the next release of Rev that supports Linux will have this little problem resolved. There is an enhancement request in BZ 2290 for improved multimedia support for Linux. Last time I looked into the QuickTime for Linux project it was pretty anemic. Of course so it XAnim. What current video APIs are available for Linux? And in terms of features, how do they compare with QT? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List archives crippled?
You can try this group - best for searches for anything less than a couple of years old and it has RSS feeds plus the unique ability to bookmark an individual email message: http://groups.google.com/group/runrev/browse_thread/thread/567f5744de427fa2/a17fdf81f7f95eaa?lnk=gstq=Googlernum=1hl=en#a17fdf81f7f95eaa ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
External editors: using the Eclipse IDE
Has anyone used the Eclipse IDE for RunRev projects - I am about to start a project with mixed JavaScript, RevCode, and quite possible some Ruby... so I am thinking of useing Eclipse to integrate the development - good idea? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
getting encrypted password from database
In my mysql database the users password is encrypted, to check and make sure the password is correct when they login to my web site I use the following $login_passwd = md5(addslashes(delmagic($_POST[login_passwd]))); Can I do the same thing with the Valentina database in my standalone? Thanks Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.8.1 on Mac OS X 10.0
In looking at Apple's site, there appears to be no free update/upgrade from 10.0.x to 10.1.0, which is needed for all the 10.1.x updates. Derek Bump wrote: Shari wrote: Maybe you can upgrade to 10.2.8 for free? Have you tried Apple's download site for older OS's? http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/index11.html I looked at this page, but I'm still a bit confused about what you are saying. Does Apple offer actual 10.x upgrades at a lower cost on their site? As far as I know, the farthest I can upgrade to is 10.0.4, which I have done, or am I wrong in thinking this? Derek Bump Dreamscape Software Compress photos easily with JPEGCompress www.dreamscapesoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Creating standalone with db-drivers for MacOSX crashes on Win
Hello, Developing on Win with 2.8.1 I have a stack using SQLite (what is integrated in rev since 2.8.1). Building the standalone for Win runs smooth. It copies all 6 DLLs for DBs into the standalone Externals\db_drivers folder. Building the standalone for Mac OSX Rev crashes after copying the third DB driver (dbpostgresql.bundle). It looks, like rev doesn't finds the Mac driver for SQLite. Because I don't know the structure and mechanism, from where it takes the Mac drivers, I don't know where to look for. The Win db drivers are all in the externals folder in my installations directory. But the Mac driver? Thanks for sharing Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.8.1 on Mac OS X 10.0
On 5 Jun 2007, at 14:51, Peter T. Evensen wrote: In looking at Apple's site, there appears to be no free update/ upgrade from 10.0.x to 10.1.0, which is needed for all the 10.1.x updates. I'm pretty sure it was a time-limited mail-out of disks. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Creating standalone with db-drivers for MacOSX crashes on Win
Add: I found the drivers in my installation runtime path. The dbsqlite driver for Mac Universal seems to be there - but not copied into the standalone. But dboracle and dbvalentina are missing. Any idea? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 15:52 An: Revolution mailing list Betreff: Creating standalone with db-drivers for MacOSX crashes on Win Hello, Developing on Win with 2.8.1 I have a stack using SQLite (what is integrated in rev since 2.8.1). Building the standalone for Win runs smooth. It copies all 6 DLLs for DBs into the standalone Externals\db_drivers folder. Building the standalone for Mac OSX Rev crashes after copying the third DB driver (dbpostgresql.bundle). It looks, like rev doesn't finds the Mac driver for SQLite. Because I don't know the structure and mechanism, from where it takes the Mac drivers, I don't know where to look for. The Win db drivers are all in the externals folder in my installations directory. But the Mac driver? Thanks for sharing Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External editors: using the Eclipse IDE
Hiya, I've used it for other projects, but found that typing through treacle was not my idea of fun... I haven't looked into optimising it either. Got a pointer to Easy Eclipse: www.easyeclipse.org in case anyone else's interested. Cheers, Luis. On 5 Jun 2007, at 13:42, David Bovill wrote: Has anyone used the Eclipse IDE for RunRev projects - I am about to start a project with mixed JavaScript, RevCode, and quite possible some Ruby... so I am thinking of useing Eclipse to integrate the development - good idea? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: Creating standalone with db-drivers for MacOSX crashes on Win
On 5 Jun 2007, at 15:04, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Add: I found the drivers in my installation runtime path. The dbsqlite driver for Mac Universal seems to be there - but not copied into the standalone. But dboracle and dbvalentina are missing. Any idea? Tiemo These two are additional cost db options, you don't need them if you're just going for SQLite. I don't know why it hasn't copied over the sqlite driver. Developing on Win with 2.8.1 I have a stack using SQLite (what is integrated in rev since 2.8.1). Building the standalone for Win runs smooth. It copies all 6 DLLs for DBs into the standalone Externals\db_drivers folder. Building the standalone for Mac OSX Rev crashes after copying the third DB driver (dbpostgresql.bundle). It looks, like rev doesn't finds the Mac driver for SQLite. Because I don't know the structure and mechanism, from where it takes the Mac drivers, I don't know where to look for. The Win db drivers are all in the externals folder in my installations directory. But the Mac driver? I wouldn't worry about the dbpostgresql.budle either, if you're using SQLite then you don't need it. Thanks for sharing Tiemo CHeers, Luis. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: getting encrypted password from database
My question should have been can valentina use md5 hash? And if so how would I implement it using Rev? Thanks Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: Creating standalone with db-drivers for MacOSX crashes onWin
Is there any log file when creating a standalone where I could look for more infos? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Luis Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 16:20 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: Creating standalone with db-drivers for MacOSX crashes onWin On 5 Jun 2007, at 15:04, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Add: I found the drivers in my installation runtime path. The dbsqlite driver for Mac Universal seems to be there - but not copied into the standalone. But dboracle and dbvalentina are missing. Any idea? Tiemo These two are additional cost db options, you don't need them if you're just going for SQLite. I don't know why it hasn't copied over the sqlite driver. Developing on Win with 2.8.1 I have a stack using SQLite (what is integrated in rev since 2.8.1). Building the standalone for Win runs smooth. It copies all 6 DLLs for DBs into the standalone Externals\db_drivers folder. Building the standalone for Mac OSX Rev crashes after copying the third DB driver (dbpostgresql.bundle). It looks, like rev doesn't finds the Mac driver for SQLite. Because I don't know the structure and mechanism, from where it takes the Mac drivers, I don't know where to look for. The Win db drivers are all in the externals folder in my installations directory. But the Mac driver? I wouldn't worry about the dbpostgresql.budle either, if you're using SQLite then you don't need it. Thanks for sharing Tiemo CHeers, Luis. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting encrypted password from database
On 5/6/07 4:13 PM, Robert Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Robert,
In my mysql database the users password is encrypted, to check and make sure
the password is correct when they login to my web site I use the following
$login_passwd = md5(addslashes(delmagic($_POST[login_passwd])));
Can I do the same thing with the Valentina database in my standalone?
Something as
INSERT INTO tblUser( Name, Password )
VALUES ( 'Robert', MD5('my password') )
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Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc
Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com
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google calendar API
Hi Has anyone been accessing google calendar, inserting events, using runrev from macos? I'd like to copy someone's code for doing this. Thanks, Bill _ Thanks a lot, Mark! Using curl does the trick. However, I would appreciate if this worked without an external shell command. BTW, I have Rev 2.8.0 studio and the docs lack a hint to the missing HTTPS implementation as far as I can see. If anyone knows an easy way to do this with sockets (and maybe openSSL?), please let me know. Now, here is the working code (Win XP) to add an event to your GoogleCalendar: (You'll need * A form, a button, 3 fields named Output, HEADER, newentry in Revolution. * Install curl, http://curl.haxx.se/download.html try the 7.16.0 WIN32 version, if necessary edit curlPATH. * Paste an XML-formatted event into field newevent according to the format specified at: http://code.google.com/apis/gdata/elements.html . Try this Exampel first: http://code.google.com/apis/calendar/gdata.html#add_event * Take a look at the Google Calendar API at: http://code.google.com/apis/calendar/overview.html * You also need a Google Calendar account and change the email and PSWD accordingly ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev with Office 2007
Anyone experienced anything like this... I have a client that claims ever since he upgraded to Office 2007 (on his WindowsXP computer), my application (a Revolution Standalone) crash when you issue a answer file, answer folder or ask file command. Perhaps Office 2007 has modified the OS's dialog box and rev is confused? I have had him try standalones generated with Rev 2.6.6 and 2.8.1. Anyone have any thoughts, suggestions or workarounds? Thank you in advance, -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
Adobe open sources Flex and continues to support and sell the commercial product: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex:Open_Source:FAQ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External editors: using the Eclipse IDE
Hi Luis - I guess you mean the IDE is slow - there is Java for you :) Did you set it as your default Script Editor in RunRev - can't remember how to do this - anyone? On 05/06/07, Luis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, I've used it for other projects, but found that typing through treacle was not my idea of fun... I haven't looked into optimising it either. Got a pointer to Easy Eclipse: www.easyeclipse.org in case anyone else's interested. Cheers, Luis. On 5 Jun 2007, at 13:42, David Bovill wrote: Has anyone used the Eclipse IDE for RunRev projects - I am about to start a project with mixed JavaScript, RevCode, and quite possible some Ruby... so I am thinking of useing Eclipse to integrate the development - good idea? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev with Office 2007
No such problems here with office 2007 and rev standalone or IDE regards Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing speed in rev 2.8
Message: 4 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:49:15 -0700 From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Drawing speed in rev 2.8 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Recently, James Hurley wrote: I've just moved over to 2.8 and have found a significant loss of speed in drawing with the pencil tool. Does anyone have any idea why the handler below would take 88 ticks in 2.7, but 302 ticks in 2.8? I see the same speed you describe in 2.8.1. Not sure why there is a difference compared to older versions, but the following could be a workaround for you, plus allow you to somewhat control the speed at which the drawing is completed. [ between the NEW comments ] on mouseUp put the ticks into tStartTime repeat while the number of images 0 delete image 1 end repeat put the width of this card/2 into x0 put the height of this card/2 into y0 put 0 into x put 0 into y put 2 into tStep put 0 into tAng put pi/180 into radPerDeg choose the pencil tool -- BEGIN NEW put into tLocked repeat with tAng = 1 to 360 if tAng mod 8 0 then -- HIGHER NUMBER = FASTER DRAW RATE if not tLocked then lock screen put true into tLocked end if else unlock screen put false into tLocked end if -- END NEW put tStep* cos(radPerDeg* tAng) into dx put tStep * sin(radPerDeg * tAng) into dy drag from round(x0+x),round(y0+y) to round(x0+x+dx), round(y0+y +dy) add dx to x add dy to y end repeat choose the browse tool put the ticks - tStartTime into msg box end mouseUp Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Thanks Scott. You suggestion is very helpful in speeding up this particular handler. Unfortunately the handler was only meant to be an illustration of a problem that occurs in a wide variety of routines using the pencil tool to draw with. This four-fold drop in speed is a serious blow to my Turtle Graphics programs. I will submit a request to bugzilla that the pencil tool be resuscitate in 2.8. Thanks, Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Rev with Office 2007
Hmm sounds worrying when such a general thing happens. On the other side I can't see any connection between the dialogs and office. I would think they are controlled by XP and not by office? Keep us informed Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dan Friedman Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 17:21 An: RunRev Mail List Betreff: Rev with Office 2007 Anyone experienced anything like this... I have a client that claims ever since he upgraded to Office 2007 (on his WindowsXP computer), my application (a Revolution Standalone) crash when you issue a answer file, answer folder or ask file command. Perhaps Office 2007 has modified the OS's dialog box and rev is confused? I have had him try standalones generated with Rev 2.6.6 and 2.8.1. Anyone have any thoughts, suggestions or workarounds? Thank you in advance, -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External editors: using the Eclipse IDE
This seems to work for me: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm Thanks Ken! On 05/06/07, David Bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luis - I guess you mean the IDE is slow - there is Java for you :) Did you set it as your default Script Editor in RunRev - can't remember how to do this - anyone? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: am I right with select and group?
Recently, Ian Wood wrote: I assume my syntax with select and group isn't safe. I've had occasional problems with this, but not consistently enough to do a bug report. Ian, I wonder if you're running into an issue with nested groups. If you have 2 groups on a card, and group B is nested inside group A, Rev will say group B is the last group on the card because technically its layer is higher than group A. This is where scripts can get confused because if you run the script: group grc 1 and grc 2 and grp B ...and then immediately reference the last group, Rev thinks you want group B instead of the group you just made. Last doesn't work the same here as it does when creating all other objects. This is definitely a pain, but one workaround is to set the name of the templateGroup to something unique *before* you create a group, and then you can refer to the group you want by name, rather than the last group. Hope this helps. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: am I right with select and group?
Remember that the 'group' command will return the id of the just created group...so..you don't have to touch the templategroup. group grc 1 and grc 2 and grp B put the result into tNewGroupID --- id of group just created ... do other group stuff is higher than group A. This is where scripts can get confused because if you run the script: group grc 1 and grc 2 and grp B but one workaround is to set the name of the templateGroup to something unique *before* you create a group, and then you can refer to the group you want by name, rather than the last group. Scott Rossi -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam PDF Library
Hi Jan, Thanks for the info. Sorry to hear about the complex problems with different fonts styles. Are you fairly confident that in the future the user will be able to use any font style and also print them in full justification or is it too complicated to say for sure. regards, -=JB=- JB I have a plugin that will fully justify text. Run the following in the msg box: go url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/JustifyTextPlugin.rev; Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: am I right with select and group?
Recently, Stephen Barncard wrote: Remember that the 'group' command will return the id of the just created group...so..you don't have to touch the templategroup. How so? Where do you get the id? When I group something by script here, both it and the result are empty. Thus I've resorted to using the templateName before creating a group to reference the recently created group. If you have another way to reference the last group, I would love to know how. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: am I right with select and group?
Hi Scott and Stephen, I'm afraid that Stephen confuses group and clone commands: The clone command places the long id property of the newly created object in the it variable. But nothing with the group command as reported Scott :-( Le 5 juin 07 à 18:14, Scott Rossi a écrit : Recently, Stephen Barncard wrote: Remember that the 'group' command will return the id of the just created group...so..you don't have to touch the templategroup. How so? Where do you get the id? When I group something by script here, both it and the result are empty. Thus I've resorted to using the templateName before creating a group to reference the recently created group. If you have another way to reference the last group, I would love to know how. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam PDF Library
--- -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jan, Thanks for the info. Sorry to hear about the complex problems with different fonts styles. Are you fairly confident that in the future the user will be able to use any font style and also print them in full justification or is it too complicated to say for sure. regards, -=JB=- Hi John, While it's tedious to figure out the intricacies of the file formats, it's just a process that takes time - it's not impossible. My main goal for styled text is to support all the features of Revolution fields (as in the htmlText property) with some additions like justification. And to make that work for unicode as well. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTF - Quartam PDF Library
--- -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jan, If I have a text file saved that includes all of the RTF stuff in it can I print it out properly with Quartam PDF providing it only uses the Fonts you have listed. I mean a file in a field that is not viewed with the proper fonts styles but you can see it has been saved as RTF. Does RTF also save alignment and if so will Quartam PDF print the file out in full justification providing that is how it was saved as RTF. thanks, -=JB=- Hi John, RTF as a file format supports a tremendous amount of features, including tables, headers, footers, footnotes and all that you can put together with Word. It's not that easy to parse but you can use RTF + Word as a reporting vehicle from Revolution. At this point in time, it is not my ambition to convert RTF files into PDF documents. I believe there are some utilities out there that can do it for you, and those can even be called from the command-line. Best regards, Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Legacy stack woes
Hi All, In setting up an SDBII demo for interested parties I have run into the need to distribute stacks in Legacy format so the software can be used by Linux developers. Working in RRv2.7+ and building distribution downloads in Legacy format cries out for: developers' handlers to: 1. Identify the format of a stack (AFAIK, the SmartProperties plugIn will not retrieve stack properties, and lacking the list of properties by object available in pre-v2.7 docs, I don't even know the name of the stack property designating Legacy or v2.7+ format. Without this capability, I have to open each stack I save in Legacy format in v2.7+ with an older version of RunRev that will throw an error if the format is not Legacy.) 2. Save a stack in Legacy format, specifying an extension other than .rev (Three of Serendipity's four proprietary file types remain in stack format. Every time I save those stacks in Legacy format, I must subsequently rename them to remove .rev.) 3. Save multiple stacks in Legacy format without having to reset the Save as type popUp every time. Suggestions or comments? Rob Cozens CCW Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
David Bovill wrote: Adobe open sources Flex and continues to support and sell the commercial product: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex:Open_Source:FAQ Wish? Of course. As a consultant, nothing would be a greater boon to my business than moving from a sole-source proprietary language to one which is free and open to all. Given the many benefits of open source for development tools, it's quite a testament to Rev's ROI that all three of the companies whose technology I manage continue to rely on it even though it's proprietary. But I don't think open source is likely in the foreseeable future. RunRev Ltd. and their backers have a lot invested in Rev, and any path to the future would need to provide a healthy return on that investment. Moreover, a tool as complex as Rev would be expensive to maintain and enhance, so unless there are a lot of expert programmers who are independently wealthy I suspect they'd need to be compensated, and I wonder if any donation scheme would ultimately cost less than the current low upgrade fees. But aside from being free/gratis, are there other specific benefits you'd look forward to if it became open source? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: am I right with select and group?
you are right. But it should return the id in the result!! Hi Scott and Stephen, I'm afraid that Stephen confuses group and clone commands: The clone command places the long id property of the newly created object in the it variable. But nothing with the group command as reported Scott :-( -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: am I right with select and group?
Eric Chatonet wrote: I'm afraid that Stephen confuses group and clone commands: The clone command places the long id property of the newly created object in the it variable. But nothing with the group command as reported Scott :-( I was about to vote for that bug report, but I couldn't find it in BZ. Anyone here know the #? Does it need to be created? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1
Thanks to all those who replied telling me the kinds of Mac Minis they have. However, that the idea of Mac Mini (Intel or not) is at the root of my problem was only a hypothesis on my part, and it seems that it is probably not the cause. I am using Mac OSX 10.4.9 on an Intel Core Duo 1.83 GHz Mac Mini and the full version of Rev/Mac Studio 2.8.1. Everything is brand new. Apart from Rev, the only thing I had installed before trying out the example revBrowser stack for the first time was a trial version of Microsoft Office, which I have since removed and replaced with Open Office. I had to install X11 to do that. That must be the cause of the problem! Even when I try to get as far away from Microsoft as I can, Bill Gates pursues me and persecutes me! But Scott Rossi for example tells me that he is using an Intel Mac Mini with OSX 10.4.9 and that the example revBrowser stack works OK. All I know at this point is that so far I am the only one in the world that has fallen victim to this crash in the revBrowser, apart from Ken Ray who experienced it for a fleeting moment. I also know that if a bug cannot be reproduced, there is no point in even thinking of reporting it! Instead of focusing on the equipment being used, let's focus on the stack itself. So: 1. EVERYBODY USING REVOLUTION 2.8.1, PLEASE TRY RUNNING THE EXAMPLE STACK Browser Sampler.rev. Using Rev/Mac 2.8.1, it can be found at: 2.8.1-gm-1/Resources/Examples within the Revolution folder. Using Windows, I can't tell you where it is because I don't have #2.8.1. 2. IF YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE AT ALL RUNNING THIS STACK, PLEASE TELL US: (a) Exactly what platform you are using (b) The details of the machine in use. Beyond that, I don't know what more I can do at the moment. However, if anybody has any suggestions (apart from funny ones related to suicide on account of my persecution), I'd be pleased to hear them. The irony of this situation is the fact that I have been struggling for 2 years now to get altBrowser introduced into Rev/Linux, as Chipp Walters, Mark Waddingham, Kevin and others will confirm. In anticipation of the browser finally being introduced in the next version of Rev/Linux, I splashed out on a Mac Mini specifically so that I could familiarize myself with it. Running the Browser Sampler.rev stack was the very first thing I tried to do in Rev/Mac 2.8.1, and it crashed! And nobody else has the same problem (or so it would seem)! Something seems to be telling me that I should not have paused in my Linux/Ubuntu crusade, even for 10 minutes. There are forces at work here that can only be explained in terms of some kind of divine (or diabolic) intervention. Seriously, what I need to do now is to knock up my own versions using the revBrowser functions so that I can discover what works and what doesn't work, and how I can (or cannot) get around problems if or when they arise. If I have anything to report, I'll let you know later. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Legacy stack woes
Rob Cozens wrote: Hi All, In setting up an SDBII demo for interested parties I have run into the need to distribute stacks in Legacy format so the software can be used by Linux developers. Working in RRv2.7+ and building distribution downloads in Legacy format cries out for: developers' handlers to: 1. Identify the format of a stack (AFAIK, the SmartProperties plugIn will not retrieve stack properties, and lacking the list of properties by object available in pre-v2.7 docs, I don't even know the name of the stack property designating Legacy or v2.7+ format. Without this capability, I have to open each stack I save in Legacy format in v2.7+ with an older version of RunRev that will throw an error if the format is not Legacy.) I don't think there is such a property, but you can read the binary file to see the format. If it starts with REVO then it is the new format. But for what you are doing, I don't think you'll have to resort to this. 2. Save a stack in Legacy format, specifying an extension other than .rev (Three of Serendipity's four proprietary file types remain in stack format. Every time I save those stacks in Legacy format, I must subsequently rename them to remove .rev.) Go to preferences, Files and memory pane, and turn off the option that automatically adds the .rev extension. Also turn on the option in the same pane that preserves the stack file type when saving a legacy stack. 3. Save multiple stacks in Legacy format without having to reset the Save as type popUp every time. I think a script would be the easiest way for the initial stack creation. For a single file: on mySave set the stackfileversion to 2.4 save this stack as myFileName end mySave Or wrap this in a loop that saves all the open stacks, or a list of stacks you pass as a parameter, or however else you need to do it. The stackfileversion property is global, so you only need to set it once. You could even do it in the message box before issuing a save command from a script. If the Rev preference is set to respect legacy stacks, you don't need to run a script at all after the stack has been saved the first time. Cmd-S will just work. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
On 05/06/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I don't think open source is likely in the foreseeable future. RunRev Ltd. and their backers have a lot invested in Rev, and any path to the future would need to provide a healthy return on that investment. Why would you say Adobe are open sourcing Flex? because they don't see the product going anywhere and they are cutting their losses? Because they are big enough and can loose on this one? Or because they figure they can only really make money off a development tool and platform (in the future) if it has serious open source credentials and they are reorganising their business bit by bit around ways of seeling tools and services around such a strategy? But aside from being free/gratis, are there other specific benefits you'd look forward to if it became open source? It is nothing to do with the cost - at least for me. I want to be able to recommend the platform to customers and I want to be able to engage bright young developers in learning the language and RunRev tools / IDE. Both are much much harder in my environment with a pure closed source solution - and it is getting harder. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: QuickTime in web pages
I am trying to find references and examples of QuickTime movies calling URL's as they play - the aim is for the movie to act as a guide to take the user through a number of HTML pages - in an iFrame? So far I cannot find the documentation - and no examples online - but from memory it seems like this should work in a similar way to using callbacks in RunRev for QuickTime movies. Anyone done this, or is there a good reason why I can't find the examples :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1
Bob Warren wrote: All I know at this point is that so far I am the only one in the world that has fallen victim to this crash in the revBrowser, apart from Ken Ray who experienced it for a fleeting moment. We had a report this morning in the support queue about the same thing, so now there are three of you. However, in this person's case, he also got errors that any browser-related handlers he tried were not found. This indicates to me that the external was not loading. He was also on a Windows machine, so the problem may not be identical. At any rate, you should have a crash log on your Mac in: ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Revolution.crash.log The latest entries are at the bottom. Copy one of the crash entries that happened when you were trying revBrowser and submit it in a report to the QA center along with a brief description. That should give the team a lead. If I can get a crash log from the tech queue customer I'll add it to your report. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1
--- Bob Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all those who replied telling me the kinds of Mac Minis they have. However, that the idea of Mac Mini (Intel or not) is at the root of my problem was only a hypothesis on my part, and it seems that it is probably not the cause. [snip] 1. EVERYBODY USING REVOLUTION 2.8.1, PLEASE TRY RUNNING THE EXAMPLE STACK Browser Sampler.rev. Using Rev/Mac 2.8.1, it can be found at: 2.8.1-gm-1/Resources/Examples within the Revolution folder. Using Windows, I can't tell you where it is because I don't have #2.8.1. 2. IF YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE AT ALL RUNNING THIS STACK, PLEASE TELL US: (a) Exactly what platform you are using (b) The details of the machine in use. Earlier today, I played with the Browser Sampler stack on WinXP+IE7, and didn't encounter any problems. Also tried the example stack on Win2K+IE6, and didn't bump into any problems either. I just opened the Browser Sampler stack on my iMac/G5 OSX 10.4.9 - the button on the first screen worked fine - when I tried to open the PDF example, Rev crashed I reopened Revolution - skipped the button on the first card - the PDF example opened fine now - the Flash example opened without a problem - the simple browser and navigation cards worked fine - the domain constraint example actually let me go to the smurf.com website, but the next click in that site gave the expected message (so there might be a problem with the first time 'browserBeforeNavigate' is sent (this needs more research) - selected text card worked fine - thumbnail card worked fine - two browsers card worked fine No crashes during that walkthrough. Safari was open at the same time, so I could type this reply. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
FTP user names and passwords -- secure or not?
Hi All, When using Rev's FTP capabilities to upload a file via ftp with user name and password as in the syntax below: put ... into URL ftp://userName:userPassword ... is the user name and password completely secure in a distributed application providing the scripts are encrypted? Is it at all possible for someone to be able to tell what address, user name, and password are being used via another application such as a firewall? Thanks, Mike _ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FTP user names and passwords -- secure or not?
--- Mike Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, When using Rev's FTP capabilities to upload a file via ftp with user name and password as in the syntax below: put ... into URL ftp://userName:userPassword ... is the user name and password completely secure in a distributed application providing the scripts are encrypted? Is it at all possible for someone to be able to tell what address, user name, and password are being used via another application such as a firewall? Thanks, Mike Hi Mike, FTP, POP, SMTP and plain HTTP are all wide open protocols that anyone with a packet sniffer (such as Ethereal) can read. I've seen emails come by with username and password - it's quite scary to think that so much sensitive information can be caught. If you're only downloading, then an HTTPS protected chunk of the website might do the trick. Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1
Dan Friedman wrote: Anyone experienced anything like this... I have a client that claims ever since he upgraded to Office 2007 (on his WindowsXP computer), my application (a Revolution Standalone) crash when you issue a answer file, answer folder or ask file command. Perhaps Office 2007 has modified the OS's dialog box and rev is confused? I was half joking when I suggested that Bill Gates was probably at the bottom of my revBrowser problem in OSX. Now I'm beginning to think Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
W: Rev with Office 2007
Tiemo wrote: Hmm sounds worrying when such a general thing happens. On the other side I can't see any connection between the dialogs and office. I would think they are controlled by XP and not by office? Keep us informed --- Bill Gates tries to control everything, everywhere! If Office is not being used as a front to make undeclared fundamental changes to the OS, I'd be surprised. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
David Bovill wrote: On 05/06/07, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote: But I don't think open source is likely in the foreseeable future. RunRev Ltd. and their backers have a lot invested in Rev, and any path to the future would need to provide a healthy return on that investment. Why would you say Adobe are open sourcing Flex? because they don't see the product going anywhere and they are cutting their losses? Because they are big enough and can loose on this one? Or because they figure they can only really make money off a development tool and platform (in the future) if it has serious open source credentials and they are reorganising their business bit by bit around ways of seeling tools and services around such a strategy? Maybe some mix of all of the above. Hard to say. The Why was the one thing curiously absent from their FAQ. For RunRev to open source Rev would be the equivalent of Adobe open sourcing their whole Creative Suite. But like RunRev, the main income sources for Adobe remain proprietary. But aside from being free/gratis, are there other specific benefits you'd look forward to if it became open source? It is nothing to do with the cost - at least for me. I want to be able to recommend the platform to customers and I want to be able to engage bright young developers in learning the language and RunRev tools / IDE. Both are much much harder in my environment with a pure closed source solution - and it is getting harder. Are these young minds concerned about cost, or do they need to modify the C++ source? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
But I don't think open source is likely in the foreseeable future. RunRev Ltd. and their backers have a lot invested in Rev, and any path to the future would need to provide a healthy return on that investment. Why would you say Adobe are open sourcing Flex? because they don't see the product going anywhere and they are cutting their losses? Because they are big enough and can loose on this one? Or because they figure they can only really make money off a development tool and platform (in the future) if it has serious open source credentials and they are reorganising their business bit by bit around ways of seeling tools and services around such a strategy? Adobe owns all of the best selling commercial tools for producing/supporting content for the Flex platform. Flash and to a lesser extent, AJAX type solutions have achieved dominance in their own space - its become its own ecosystem in web development. By open sourcing Flex, they still maintain dominance because so many people will use their tools to generate Flex related stuff. Yet they also appeal to open source/free software communities and can leverage any work generated there as a result - that looks good to shareholders, too. Something that works for one company (or even a group of companies) doesn't necessarily mean the strategy is sound for everyone else - those strategies are built with the structure of those companies in mind. I have had clients and partners of clients that have emulated Apple or Microsoft for example - and at best its helped not at all, at other times disasterous. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution Ltd http://www.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
David writes: Both are much much harder in my environment with a pure closed source solution - and it is getting harder. The issue really is powerlessness, not just against the supplier, but against events beyond the control of the supplier. Hypercard showed one form of this very clearly. You can get orphaned as a user, no matter how much goodwill and committment the supplier has. The problem is that the number of attractive open source alternatives of which this is not true is multiplying all the time. It may be very hard to make money by open sourcing your bread and butter, but it also may be very hard to get your product to the scale it needs to be and can be, while keeping it closed, so its not risk free either way. If you were consulting to Rev, you'd say this was one that had to be looked at very carefully. But my goodness, it would be a bet the company kind of decision. Good luck, if you are thinking about it. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev with Office 2007
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:21:09 -0700, Dan Friedman wrote: Anyone experienced anything like this... I have a client that claims ever since he upgraded to Office 2007 (on his WindowsXP computer), my application (a Revolution Standalone) crash when you issue a answer file, answer folder or ask file command. Perhaps Office 2007 has modified the OS's dialog box and rev is confused? I have had him try standalones generated with Rev 2.6.6 and 2.8.1. Anyone have any thoughts, suggestions or workarounds? I just installed Office 2007 yesterday and I can tell you that I'm not experiencing any problems with Rev 2.8.1 standalones. What kind of a crash is it? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
strange (german) system date
Hi friends, I just discoverd strange things here on my PC: Rev 2.8.1, WIN XP Home SP2. In the msg: put the long date - Tuesday, June 5, 2007 which is correct. put the long system date - Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2007 which tells me it is wednesday (Mittwoch), NOT correct ? Any hints are very welcome. Regards Klaus Major ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Launching Visual C++ 2005 Applications
Dear List, I have a problem, hopefully someone can help. I can't seem to get Revolution to launch an exe I made with Microsoft Visual C++. The exe in question runs fine if I double click it in Windows XP, but when I use open process path all that appears is a command line dialog (which is unresponsive) and no output from the program (which indicates that it is not running). To control for the open process command I can confirm that I am able to launch a 3rd party command line exe which runs without any problems. I don't know how the launchable program was made. I'd appreciate any ideas about how to make my program run when launched (a command line parameter maybe?). I know this isn't a strictly Rev question, but it seems reasonable that someone here might be able to help. Thanks a lot, Doug ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1
On 6/6/07, Bob Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: replaced with Open Office. I had to install X11 to do that. That must be the cause of the problem! Even when I try to get as far away from Microsoft as I can, Bill Gates pursues me and persecutes me! Have you tried NeoOffice, based on Open Office but without the need to install X11. http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
Microsoft seems to be doing very well without open-sourcing its development tools. I'm not sure what open-sourcing has to do with scaling. Are you talking about user-base or scalability of Revolution itself? I think open source is almost a fad/buzzword; I'm not sure how important it really is when it comes right down to it. In order for open source to be of any use, it needs an active developer community that is maintaining and enhancing the code (at that without any economic incentive). OpenDarwin didn't work out, would OpenRevolution? How many of you want to muck about in the Revolution engine and freely contribute enhancements (and make sure those enhancements work across Mac, Linux, and Windows in all the different flavors)? Right now we have a team of dedicated developers working on improving and enhancing Revolution, developers who have a big economic stake in the success of the product. Peter Alcibiades wrote: David writes: Both are much much harder in my environment with a pure closed source solution - and it is getting harder. The issue really is powerlessness, not just against the supplier, but against events beyond the control of the supplier. Hypercard showed one form of this very clearly. You can get orphaned as a user, no matter how much goodwill and committment the supplier has. The problem is that the number of attractive open source alternatives of which this is not true is multiplying all the time. It may be very hard to make money by open sourcing your bread and butter, but it also may be very hard to get your product to the scale it needs to be and can be, while keeping it closed, so its not risk free either way. If you were consulting to Rev, you'd say this was one that had to be looked at very carefully. But my goodness, it would be a bet the company kind of decision. Good luck, if you are thinking about it. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: QuickTime in web pages
Find a page on the 'net similar to the one you want to display. View the source code and copy and paste it into a text editor. Look at the html code one line at a time. Create code in Rev that will open a blank html doc and write your code to the document. Hints: put HTML into h1 put HEAD into h2 put TITLEfsn/TITLE into h3 put /HEAD into h4 put BODY BGCOLOR=quote#FFquoteFONT FACE=quoteArialquote into h5 put cr !-- d src =quoteClip Here.movquote width = quote480quote height=quote270quote scale =quotetofitquote autoplay =quoteFalsequotePnbsp;/P into H6 put /BODY into h7 put /HTML into h8 put h1 cr h2 cr h3 cr h4 cr h5 cr h6 cr h7 cr h8 into newHtml open file My New Web Page for write write newHtmL to file My New Web Page close file My New Web Page Notice the use of the constant quote to actually insert quotes into your text. Hope this helps! Jack Rarick Braintree Athletic Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/05/07 2:07 PM I am trying to find references and examples of QuickTime movies calling URL's as they play - the aim is for the movie to act as a guide to take the user through a number of HTML pages - in an iFrame? So far I cannot find the documentation - and no examples online - but from memory it seems like this should work in a similar way to using callbacks in RunRev for QuickTime movies. Anyone done this, or is there a good reason why I can't find the examples :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bluetooth/USP GPS
Camm29 wrote: RunRev can now see that data on RS232 Port 1 , you will have to check what sort of Data the GPS transmit and/or receives ? Are they simple commands etc Almost certainly yes - we did a project with Rev interfacing to (USB) GPS last year, and it was trivial to read. Almost all GPS units have an NMEA compatible mode which is very easy to work with, and is well documented on the internet. From fading memory, the Garmin units may be the outliers here. As far as the simple interface is concerned, we found that all the USB units we tested had drivers for Windows which faked being a serial device (and indeed the hardware for these things generally is designed for RS232, with a chip in front to convert to USB). Mac was a little harder but most devices turned out to be using one of two chipsets to convert their native serial to USB, and it was possible to track down Mac drivers for both of them. I'm not a serious Linux user, but in at least one of these two I recall seeing a Linux driver also. HTH, - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 45, Issue 11
on mouseup put the mousecolor * the backgroundcolor of me end mouseup With this script in a rectangle graphic, clicking produces: 0,127,255 * 44,255,34 Why would the mousecolor not equal the backgroundcolor of the graphic? In fact clicking in different parts of the graphic (which is a solid green in this case) produces differing values for the mousecolor even though it's all the same green! Also, on mousedown put the mousecolor end mousedown in the script of a card that is entirely empty (white) produces varying values none of which is 255,255,255. Do I have to do some kind of colorspace conversion? version 2.8.1 OSX 10.3.9 Thanks, Jim Lambert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
mousecolor problem?
Reposting with a proper SUBJECT. Sorry 'bout that! jimL === on mouseup put the mousecolor * the backgroundcolor of me end mouseup With this script in a rectangle graphic, clicking produces: 0,127,255 * 44,255,34 Why would the mousecolor not equal the backgroundcolor of the graphic? In fact clicking in different parts of the graphic (which is a solid green in this case) produces differing values for the mousecolor even though it's all the same green! Also, on mousedown put the mousecolor end mousedown in the script of a card that is entirely empty (white) produces varying values none of which is 255,255,255. Do I have to do some kind of colorspace conversion? version 2.8.1 OSX 10.3.9 Thanks, Jim Lambert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
I have to agree that Open Source is currently a fad in the tech market. All of the monthly rags are really starting to get into it. On the other hand, you have to give some value to the movement away from a completely closed development model. Disclaimer: I am a cross-platform accessible software developer. I am an Open Source zealot. I have been using Linux (mostly Debian) and BSD on my Desktop productivity machines and laptops as well as the obvious use on my servers for approximately 15 years. I use Linux because, for me, it behaves in a more productive fashion and allows me the flexibility to do what I need to get done on a daily basis. I am writing this email on a Windows XP machine running Litestep because I have to run Windows at work. Litestep is not an effective solution, but it does give me effective virtual desktops and a useful context menu. Back to the point: While it is easy to say that Adobe (and all the other big boys getting into Open Source) are trying to expand their developer pool and get free work making a better product, I think this is entirely off the mark. In order for Adobe to put their name on a product, they need quality control. Quality control on an Open Source project is a lot of work. It's not something you're going to save money on. In my opinion, the big companies going Open Source are looking much more at public opinion than technological advancement. With everyone hating the RIAA / MPAA / whateverelseAA, why not take a chance at making your company look like you care about the little guy? In my experience, it costs about the same to develop software in-house as it does to Open Source it. Given the minimal cost differences, public opinion could be a cheap buy. Whether or not an Open Source project will succeed is based pretty much entirely on what sort of people would be using the software. OpenDarwin hasn't had much success because most Mac people aren't into screwing around with their systems. That's why they bought a Mac. Don't even start about Darwin on PC. There's no point. There are multiple BSD distributions that happily work on PC. Porting Darwin in academically interesting, but technologically worthless. The reason that OpenRevolution could succeed is that there are interested parties. The reason it would almost definitely fail is that RR is pretty well designed for low-effort programming. Anyone seriously interested in developing with RR doesn't have the time to muck around in a bunch of C/C++. That's why they're using RR. GUI / RAD developers interested in C++ are already over at the wxWidgets camp and I don't see that changing any time soon. Just my $0.02 Cheers -- -r [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/5/2007 3:20:27 PM Microsoft seems to be doing very well without open-sourcing its development tools. I'm not sure what open-sourcing has to do with scaling. Are you talking about user-base or scalability of Revolution itself? I think open source is almost a fad/buzzword; I'm not sure how important it really is when it comes right down to it. In order for open source to be of any use, it needs an active developer community that is maintaining and enhancing the code (at that without any economic incentive). OpenDarwin didn't work out, would OpenRevolution? How many of you want to muck about in the Revolution engine and freely contribute enhancements (and make sure those enhancements work across Mac, Linux, and Windows in all the different flavors)? Right now we have a team of dedicated developers working on improving and enhancing Revolution, developers who have a big economic stake in the success of the product. Peter Alcibiades wrote: David writes: Both are much much harder in my environment with a pure closed source solution - and it is getting harder. The issue really is powerlessness, not just against the supplier, but against events beyond the control of the supplier. Hypercard showed one form of this very clearly. You can get orphaned as a user, no matter how much goodwill and committment the supplier has. The problem is that the number of attractive open source alternatives of which this is not true is multiplying all the time. It may be very hard to make money by open sourcing your bread and butter, but it also may be very hard to get your product to the scale it needs to be and can be, while keeping it closed, so its not risk free either way. If you were consulting to Rev, you'd say this was one that had to be looked at very carefully. But my goodness, it would be a bet the company kind of decision. Good luck, if you are thinking about it. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mousecolor problem?
Jim Lambert wrote: on mouseup put the mousecolor * the backgroundcolor of me end mouseup With this script in a rectangle graphic, clicking produces: 0,127,255 * 44,255,34 I get the same values for both. Why would the mousecolor not equal the backgroundcolor of the graphic? Have you applied any blending to the graphic? If so, the backcolor is the original color but the mousecolor will reflect the blend. In fact clicking in different parts of the graphic (which is a solid green in this case) produces differing values for the mousecolor even though it's all the same green! Also, on mousedown put the mousecolor end mousedown in the script of a card that is entirely empty (white) produces varying values none of which is 255,255,255. I'm only getting 255,255,255 no matter where I click on the card. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Bundling
On Jun 2, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Last time I looked into the QuickTime for Linux project it was pretty anemic. Of course so it XAnim. What current video APIs are available for Linux? And in terms of features, how do they compare with QT? Multimedia for all of us is going to overlap in some areas and be very different in others. At this point I need to be able to play the latest video formats in Linux. MPlayer http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ homepage/design6/news.html seems to be the best bet for audio/video play back. VR may require another technology all together. There does not seem to be a one solution fits all for Linux. Maybe we would have a way to hook into a variety of players as needed. The current support (videoClipPlayer, property) seems to point us in the direction Rev should go for all platforms. It seems Scott was headed that way in theory when you consider that property. It just never got implemented completely. Imagine a world where we could set that property on the fly for each player. We could then access all the wealth of media players on the market that best suited our needs. Alas, I would be happy being able to play a modern codec on Linux as a starting point. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mousecolor problem?
Jacque wrote: Have you applied any blending to the graphic? If so, the backcolor is the original color but the mousecolor will reflect the blend. Nope, no blending. I get the same values for both. I'm only getting 255,255,255 no matter where I click on the card. Which is what I expected here but am not getting under OSX, although the same stack does work as expected on Windows. Odd. Jim Lambert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Bundling
On 5 Jun 2007, at 22:52, Mark Talluto wrote: VR may require another technology all together. Panorama viewing on Linux is pretty much limited to Java viewers, given the lack of QT, Flash or Shockwave. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: External editors: using the Eclipse IDE
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:25:19 +0100, David Bovill wrote: Hi Luis - I guess you mean the IDE is slow - there is Java for you :) Did you set it as your default Script Editor in RunRev - can't remember how to do this - anyone? You can use the stsMLXEditor plugin: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mousecolor problem?
Just noticed my monitor was set to 'Thousands. Duh! When I switched it to Millions mousecolor() reports the correct RGB values. However what if a user's monitor is 'thousands'? I'm not sure how one can test this in Rev since in both cases screendepth returns 32 colormap is 'fixed (at least they are here!) Jim Lambert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mousecolor problem?
Recently, Jim Lambert wrote: However what if a user's monitor is 'thousands'? I'm not sure how one can test this in Rev since in both cases screendepth returns 32 colormap is 'fixed (at least they are here!) Same here, on OSX 10.4.9. All display-related color functions seem to report 32 bit, instead of 16. Looks like a bug. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
I thought about an hour, and couldn't think of any open source software that was easier to use then its (almost always existing) commercial counterpart. Meanwhile OS products have often many more features. I however use Runtime Revolution because of it's ease of use, if I'd want features I'd probably use assembler. PS: Firefox/Thunderbird/Camino: the Mozilla foundation has paid developers. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mousecolor problem?
However what if a user's monitor is 'thousands'? I'm not sure how one can test this in Rev since in both cases screendepth returns 32 colormap is 'fixed (at least they are here!) Did you restart rev in between? Rev checks for these when it's started, not every time you change the colours in the OS. -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.8.1 on Mac OS X 10.0
In looking at Apple's site, there appears to be no free update/upgrade from 10.0.x to 10.1.0, which is needed for all the 10.1.x updates. I hadn't gotten far enough to check the details. I had assumed that any fees on updating would have long been removed. You could always try backstepping to a version of Rev prior to 2.8.1. I think somebody said 2.8.0 might work. Work your way backwards until you find the one that works for you. Shari -- Windows and Macintosh shareware games BIackjack Gold http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mousecolor problem?
Did you restart rev in between? Rev checks for these when it's started, not every time you change the colours in the OS. Yep. I agree with Scott there may be a bug with screendepth. And when it's fixed if the screendepth is not 32, you may need to adjust mousecolor by some factor to get the correct RGB value. But I haven't figured that out yet, since here I get different mousecolor values at different locations for the exact same color. Jim Lambert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Bundling
Mark Talluto wrote: Multimedia for all of us is going to overlap in some areas and be very different in others. At this point I need to be able to play the latest video formats in Linux. MPlayer http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ homepage/design6/news.html seems to be the best bet for audio/video play back. VR may require another technology all together. There does not seem to be a one solution fits all for Linux. VR is the least of my concerns at the moment. Far more critical to at least two shipping apps I manage is support for selections: being able to display a selection, store the user's selection, and set the selection. I could write my own controller and selection manager I suppose, but that's just added cost for a market that's smaller the the ones we don't have to work as hard to support. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Quicktime Bundling
There is Flash, at least on my Ubuntu build, seen it in SuSe too. Cheers, Luis. On 5 Jun 2007, at 22:58, Ian Wood wrote: On 5 Jun 2007, at 22:52, Mark Talluto wrote: VR may require another technology all together. Panorama viewing on Linux is pretty much limited to Java viewers, given the lack of QT, Flash or Shockwave. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quartam PDF Library - justify plugin
On Jun 5, 2007, at 9:02 AM, James Hurley wrote: JB I have a plugin that will fully justify text. Run the following in the msg box: go url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/JustifyTextPlugin.rev; Jim Hurley Hi Jim, Thanks but I need the text to be justified with fonts and styles. It appears Jan has the solution for my printing needs she also will let me justify the text during the printing process. Also from what she said to justify the way I want in a field it will take the Rev Team to do it at the control engine level. So I am hoping the Rev Team does some work on the options to justify text in fields. regards, -=JB=- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launching Visual C++ 2005 Applications
Doug- There's no reason why that shouldn't work, although you might try the launch command instead of open process. But they both work on everything I've tried. If you've got a command window open, then how do you know your program isn't running? Is it waiting for user input perhaps? You won't get a command window unless you've launched something. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
embedding a large number of copyrighted images
Hello All, An application I've made works with 1000's of images (and sounds). Up to now, I've used: set the filename of [image object] to [file path] However, the copyright holder of the images advises me that, should I wish to share/sell my application, all the images need to be embedded into it. I know about RunRev's import all images in folder, and about using the id numbers of these imported images to set button icons. But my images are of varying sizes, and button objects do not resize the way image objects do. So, I guess if I had to go with button icons, I could use set width/height and then lock the size of each of the 1000+ images. But, are there other ways of working with referenced images? Plus, I imagine that the stacks/substacks in which the images (and sounds) are stored might be (very?!) large. Are there issues I should be aware of when using RunRev with large stacks/substacks? Thank you. -- Nicolas Cueto But, unlike image objects, buttons do not resize the original image -- which route would, I guess, oblige me to ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1
Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote: At any rate, you should have a crash log on your Mac in: ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Revolution.crash.log The latest entries are at the bottom. Copy one of the crash entries that happened when you were trying revBrowser and submit it in a report to the QA center along with a brief description. That should give the team a lead. If I can get a crash log from the tech queue customer I'll add it to your report. - Done. Report #5121 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5121 Attachment #794 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/attachment.cgi?id=794action=edit I've included the whole log (not very long since it's a new computer). Thanks once again Jacque! Bob http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5121 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/attachment.cgi?id=794action=edit ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Browser Sampler Stack in Rev/Mac 2.8.1
Jan Schenkel wrote: I just opened the Browser Sampler stack on my iMac/G5 OSX 10.4.9 - the button on the first screen worked fine - when I tried to open the PDF example, Rev crashed I reopened Revolution - skipped the button on the first card - the PDF example opened fine now - the Flash example opened without a problem - the simple browser and navigation cards worked fine - the domain constraint example actually let me go to the smurf.com website, but the next click in that site gave the expected message (so there might be a problem with the first time 'browserBeforeNavigate' is sent (this needs more research) - selected text card worked fine - thumbnail card worked fine - two browsers card worked fine No crashes during that walkthrough. -- On page 4, using the top button for PDF, my experience was exactly the opposite of yours: it worked first time. However, the first time I used the bottom button for Flash, it crashed. But it worked at the 2nd attempt. After that, I tried to navigate backwards to a previous page, and Rev got stuck in an infinite loop. My bug report is at: Report #5121 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5121 The report only refers to the page 1 problem. Please feel free to add to it if you wish, and thanks for the info. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
