ISO and Mac chars changed in 2.9
Intel MacBook OS 10.4.11 Rev 2.9 dp 2 build 510 stacks with JIS text, viz high ascii text, made in 2.8 now opened in 2.9 Problem: the scripts are changed to iso text. the messagebox shows mac text but when it is copied and pasted into the script, it changes to iso text. the variable watcher shows mac text but when it is copied and pasted into the script, it changes to iso text. Simple Demonstration (that has nothing to do with Japanese JIS text.) in the messagebox type put numtochar(166) then copy the resulting char to a script. the two will be different. in the messagebox type put mactoiso(numtochar(166)) then copy the resulting char to a script this will be different from the message box but the same as the char in the original messagebox Another Problem: As I was testing this, I tried copying from the message box into another program and the result was this: ptmcos(utca(6) instead of this: put mactoiso(numtochar(166)) Is anyone else seeing either or both of these problems? Thanks Ron ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: My Enterprise has been sold.
Hi Andrew, Pricing is something we do look at periodically, but don't expect it to change frequently. I just want to point out something important. There is NO cost of ownership for Enterprise or Studio. Once you own a license it's yours to use however you like for as long as you like. What maintaining an active license DOES is to grant you a larger discount on future upgrades and updates. Currently: - Three months of new versions are included with initial purchase - Early Update Packs include a year of new versions. They cost $199 Studio / $499 Enterprise - Update Packs also include a year of new versions. They cost $299 Studio / $749 Enterprise The difference is that early update pack pricing is available while your license is current -- anytime within the initial three months or while another update pack is in effect. You save 50% of the cost of a new license with the early updates, and 25% off the cost of a new license with the regular updates. The regular update pack is available to all owners of that license no matter how long they've gone without updates. The update packs are about just that -- updates. Rest assured that if you buy (for example) version 2.8.1, you will always be able to use version 2.8.1 without additional cost. By the way An interesting and often overlooked fact is that Revolution licenses are per *user* licenses, which means that you can install it on as many computers as you personally use, so long as you're the only one using it. There is no activation worries, either, like some well-known database software that gives you only two installs. All the best, Bill, RunRev marketing guy Andrew Meit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just to let folks know. I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost of renewal for Studio so I wont have to be priced out of ownership like I had been with Enterprise. Just a plea. Shalom, Andrew {Choose Life, Create Hope, Nurture Love, Wrestle Faith...} ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Peter Brigham wrote: Thanks to Ken Ray, Jacqueline Gay, Eric Chatonet, and all others who helped clarify how the menubar works. It gives me a lot better basis for going ahead with my projects. This list is a godsend. It would be great if there were some readily available documentation for this kind of stuff -- I've learned a lot by browsing the dictionary, etc, but I haven't found any source of clarification of the bigger picture for these kind of things. The next area for me to puzzle out is using object templates and profiles. Another corner of Rev that the docs are woefully inadequate in explaining Peter, I have an extensive collection of tutorials for beginners on various Rev topics that my colleagues and I have put together for our beginning programming in Revolution course. Anyone in the Rev community is welcome to access them. There is a tutorial on Menus is Rev, among many others. Hope you find them useful. http://revolution.byu.edu Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Caricature challenge
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:36:22 -0800, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: In supercard, if you set the picturedata of a polygon to an image's path on disc, that image assumes the dimentions of the rectangle that defines the smallest rectangle within which the polygon would fit. Reshape the polygon and the image rectangle stretches likewise to fit the new outer bounds of the new shaped polygon. So, the image is warped in height and width to fit the polygon, which isnt as good as warping to fit the non-linear angular distotion of it's bounds as might be achieved with the use of a quad, but in light of performance it is in fact fast to fake this same overall effect through a grid of interleaved triangles (so long as your grid is sufficiently fine). I found that the eye is pretty forgiving with image montage of fairly low fedelity. Will someone do a quick trial with this pattern property and apply an image to the content of a polygon to see if there is in fact no easy way to make sure that the applied image always stretches in x and y to fit the exact outer width and height of the polygon holding it? I tried that, and there's no *easy* way AFAICT. The only thing I could think of would be to make it a multi-step process: 1) Take the original image (img orig), duplicate it (img dupe) and lock its loc. 2) Set the rect of dupe to the same size as the polygon 3) Make a new image object (img stretch) that has the same size as the copy. 4) Set the imageData of the stretch to the imageData of dupe 5) Set the backgroundPattern of the polygon to stretch This of course couldn't happen dynamically in real time without stuttering, etc., especially on larger images. I miss SuperCard's manipulation of pictureData in Revolution (you can do all sorts of other things too like setting offsets, magnification etc.) - it would be a great addition to Rev... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:42:22 -0700, Devin Asay wrote: I have an extensive collection of tutorials for beginners on various Rev topics that my colleagues and I have put together for our beginning programming in Revolution course. Anyone in the Rev community is welcome to access them. There is a tutorial on Menus is Rev, among many others. Hope you find them useful. http://revolution.byu.edu Those are great, Devin! I knew you were teaching a course over at BYU but I didn't know you had this stuff available to the Rev community. Thanks a lot! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
Hi Devin, I go along with Ken Ray with his kudos. Great and thanks. In fact, since I am just about ready to start up a new series about Revolution on Macinstruct.com's Code Mojo column, may I have your permission to include a link to your tutorial site in the very first article. I will emphasize its value to the currently non-rev user, some of whom may become one shortly thereafter. Since I have not started writing the initial article for this new series - they will available every other Wednesday at www.Macinstruct.com, I will be more than happy to take some guidance from you regarding your course(s). The readers of Macinstruct.com columns come from a very broad spectrum of Mac Users, so the articles should produce some excellent results for all parties concerned. In the event that you are not aware of my earlier contributions, back at the beginning of this decade I authored a somewhat similar set of pieces on Macinstruct.com regarding HyperCard, called The University of HyperCard©. I believe it was pretty popular at the time. Earlier this year and late last year, I wrote several articles about Revolution, but found myself inundated with my real work and stopped writing last Spring. Now, that I once again have a little free time on my hands, I'm hoping to pick up where I left off; perhaps a little wiser and more knowledgeable about Revolution's various foibles. Guiding them to your tutorials would be of great service to everyone, myself included. Once again, Great Job! TIA, Joe Wilkins On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Ken Ray wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:42:22 -0700, Devin Asay wrote: I have an extensive collection of tutorials for beginners on various Rev topics that my colleagues and I have put together for our beginning programming in Revolution course. Anyone in the Rev community is welcome to access them. There is a tutorial on Menus is Rev, among many others. Hope you find them useful. http://revolution.byu.edu Those are great, Devin! I knew you were teaching a course over at BYU but I didn't know you had this stuff available to the Rev community. Thanks a lot! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: My Enterprise has been sold.
I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost of renewal for Studio so I wont have to be priced out of ownership like I had been with Enterprise. Just a plea. What...no reponse from Richard Gaskin? Richard, Im shocked! :-) A great number of users use Revolution Studio (and as far as I can tell, also Revolution Media) for professional development - for them, the cost of a Revolution license is very small or even irrelevant. If you are a student/instructor, there is the academic route, and the savings becomes greater the higher up you go (studio, enterprise). Now what if you are a a hobbyist and you love Studio? Have you been using it for years? Then I have a suggestion :-) Figure out a way to offset the cost by doing a small project for someone. Now and then I know Id love to have a project that could do X, and sometimes it just doesn't get done because our engineering resources are strapped or it isnt central to our overall development. Now if you consider your time worth hundreds of dollars an hour, then the cost of upgrading Studio or Enterprise is a small proportion of that and you shouldn't have much to complain about. But if you arent at that point, then maybe getting someone else to pay your upgrade costs is a possibility. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Proactive International Mirye Software Publishing - NA Publisher for Runtime Revolution http://www.mirye.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Developer Dreams... Random Numbers
If you're looking for random numbers, Random.org is a great source. Or you could fire up an 8 bit Atari, which also used a physical RNG. Learn here http://www.atarimagazines.com/v7n11/randomatari.html how (circa 1990) to get round the beastly problem of *only* being able to generate true, non-repeating random numbers ;-) Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
FYI: Flash disabled in QT 7.3.1
If you have shipped products containing Quicktime movies that have interactive Flash tracks (as we have), when your customers update to QT 7.3.1, the movies will not play, and your product will be dead on arrival. Pulling support for Flash without any ability for developers to certify their movies as safe or providing any option/warning for the consumer is a questionable move for a company wanting to establish a standard. Vista engineers would have put in a few Allow dialogs but given the user the choice :-o --- QuickTime CVE-ID: CVE-2007-4707 Available for: Mac OS X v10.3.9, Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later, Mac OS X v10.5 or later, Windows Vista, XP SP2 Impact: Multiple vulnerabilities in QuickTime's Flash media handler Description: Multiple vulnerabilities exist in QuickTime's Flash media handler, the most serious of which may lead to arbitrary code execution. With this update, the Flash media handler in QuickTime is disabled except for a limited number of existing QuickTime movies that are known to be safe. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307176 http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1292332tstart=0 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Accessing Addressbook and iCal
Hi, I know Rev is cross plattform and this query is not, BUT is there a recommend / common way to access the Apple Addressbook and perhaps then new Leo only iCal-Framework. Any ready build class available, or must I really do it on my own? TIA regards Thorsten Hohage -- objectmanufactur.com - Hamburg,Germany ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing Addressbook and iCal
On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Thorsten Hohage wrote: I know Rev is cross plattform and this query is not, BUT is there a recommend / common way to access the Apple Addressbook and perhaps then new Leo only iCal-Framework. Any ready build class available, or must I really do it on my own? Applescript might be your friend here. You can do an applescript from Rev. For starters, look here... http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.21/21.10/ ScriptingAddressBook/index.html sims ClipaSearch Pro http://www.ClipaTools.com Across Platforms - Code and Culture http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: My Enterprise has been sold.
Lynn Fredricks wrote: I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost of renewal for Studio so I wont have to be priced out of ownership like I had been with Enterprise. Just a plea. What...no reponse from Richard Gaskin? Richard, Im shocked! :-) How so? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: My Enterprise has been sold.
Lynn Fredricks wrote: I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost of renewal for Studio so I wont have to be priced out of ownership like I had been with Enterprise. Just a plea. What...no reponse from Richard Gaskin? Richard, Im shocked! :-) How so? When lowering prices are a topic of discussion it always makes me think of you and maintaining the $1K price point. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC - Because it is about who you know.(tm) http://www.proactive-intl.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: My Enterprise has been sold.
Lynn Fredricks wrote: Lynn Fredricks wrote: I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost of renewal for Studio so I wont have to be priced out of ownership like I had been with Enterprise. Just a plea. What...no reponse from Richard Gaskin? Richard, Im shocked! :-) How so? When lowering prices are a topic of discussion it always makes me think of you and maintaining the $1K price point. While I still maintain that the data available suggests my opinion may be well supported, I can't fault an earnest fellow looking for a bargain. :) And after watching the runaway success of one-unknown MySQL in its market, I'm increasingly of the opinion that dual-licensing may be beneficial for development tools, which would make both Andrew and me very happy. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: In fact, since I am just about ready to start up a new series about Revolution on Macinstruct.com's Code Mojo column, may I have your permission to include a link to your tutorial site in the very first article. I will emphasize its value to the currently non-rev user, some of whom may become one shortly thereafter. Since I have not started writing the initial article for this new series - they will available every other Wednesday at www.Macinstruct.com, I will be more than happy to take some guidance from you regarding your course(s). The readers of Macinstruct.com columns come from a very broad spectrum of Mac Users, so the articles should produce some excellent results for all parties concerned. Sounds excellent, Joe. Looking forward to it. When that first article comes out please drop a note here or to me directly if you like and I'll add a link to it from revJournal's Links page: http://www.revjournal.com/links/ -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar on Windows???
Hi Richard, Thanks for your support and enthusiasm. I'll put up a note here the evening before each article is to appear. Going back to my original credo; the best way to learn is to teach. Joe Wilkins On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: In fact, since I am just about ready to start up a new series about Revolution on Macinstruct.com's Code Mojo column, may I have your permission to include a link to your tutorial site in the very first article. I will emphasize its value to the currently non-rev user, some of whom may become one shortly thereafter. Since I have not started writing the initial article for this new series - they will available every other Wednesday at www.Macinstruct.com, I will be more than happy to take some guidance from you regarding your course(s). The readers of Macinstruct.com columns come from a very broad spectrum of Mac Users, so the articles should produce some excellent results for all parties concerned. Sounds excellent, Joe. Looking forward to it. When that first article comes out please drop a note here or to me directly if you like and I'll add a link to it from revJournal's Links page: http://www.revjournal.com/links/ -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: My Enterprise has been sold.
On 2007-12-17, at 20:59, Richard Gaskin wrote: And after watching the runaway success of one-unknown MySQL in its market, I'm increasingly of the opinion that dual-licensing may be beneficial for development tools, which would make both Andrew and me very happy. Do you really think that the mySQL way is a good way? Especially when being a long term user? 1. For the first years their client side libraries was LGPL so you can simply use them. 2. Next step they introduced much better, enhanced new client and you must use it for the new version above 3. 3. They changed their licence module for client side library, NOW you must pay or open your full app as Open Source and far more legal trouble around it. When you promised a client a technology you was forced to bite the bullet and pay your several hundreds - 2000 bucks all together. Oh, you say it doesn't matter, you choose the OpenSource way? Perhaps a good decision for scientific or pure hobby work. But what if we try to think Lynns sample (do one small app each year to pay your subscription) a step further. Once you build (accidently) a nice app for an innovative small Shop, of course w/o paying everything is free, it's OpenSource. They put all their business logic in the app and are quite happy to pay no licence fees at all. A few days later a competitor see the software and get knowledge about the choosen licence model and so you receive a formal letter requesting the source code. I guess this innovative small shop is not really happy to see his business logic went away ;-) I must admit, I'm a commercial, professional software developer and not a hobbyist. But using many different tools, I sometimes pay an upgrade for a product, I didn't use for a year, so I'm in this sense in a similar situation like many hobbyist regarding this unused (=not earn money with it) tool. But I still prefer to pay my lower subscription for e.g. Valentina instead of mySQL, or Rev, RB, ... instead of OpenSource version of Qt, I know I must pay, but I feel so much safer with it. And if you ever feel you need to pay so much simply check the current seat licence for an IBM WebSphere Developer or something similar. regards Thorsten Hohage -- objectmanufactur.com - Hamburg,Germany ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
You don't have one of the selected engines!
Hello everybody: I'm trying to build a standalone using Rev 2.8.1, but I keep getting this error message: You don't have one of the selected engines! I have no idea what this means or what I could be doing wrong. In the Standalone Settings I chose building only for Mac OS X Universal. Would someone please help me out. Thanks. Paul Gabel iMac Intel Leopard 10.5.1 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: You don't have one of the selected engines!
Hi Paul, The message would normally mean the file Standalone is missing from your Mac's /Applications/YourRevFolder/Runtime/PlatformName folder. It does seem unlikely that your OS X UB Standalone file would be missing. Is it possible that the Windows checkbox is also checked in your Standalone Application Settings window? If this is the case and you've never made a Windows standalone on your Mac with 2.8.1, that could explain why you got the message. If I recall correctly, when this happens Rev will ask you to allow the downloading of the missing engine (aka Standalone file). I may not have every detail correct above, but this at least gives you a trail to follow. Phil Davis Paul Gabel wrote: Hello everybody: I'm trying to build a standalone using Rev 2.8.1, but I keep getting this error message: You don't have one of the selected engines! I have no idea what this means or what I could be doing wrong. In the Standalone Settings I chose building only for Mac OS X Universal. Would someone please help me out. Thanks. Paul Gabel iMac Intel Leopard 10.5.1 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution