ISO and Mac chars changed in 2.9

2007-12-17 Thread Ron

Intel MacBook  OS 10.4.11
Rev 2.9 dp 2 build 510

stacks with JIS text, viz high ascii text, made in 2.8 now opened in 2.9

Problem:

the scripts are changed to iso text.
the messagebox shows mac text but when it is copied and pasted into  
the script, it changes to iso text.
the variable watcher shows mac text but when it is copied and pasted  
into the script, it changes to iso text.



Simple Demonstration (that has nothing to do with Japanese JIS text.)


in the messagebox type put numtochar(166)
then copy the resulting char to a script.
the two will be different.
in the messagebox type put mactoiso(numtochar(166))
then copy the resulting char to a script
this will be different from the message box but the same as the char  
in the original messagebox



Another Problem:

As I was testing this, I tried copying from the message box into  
another program and the result was this:


ptmcos(utca(6)

instead of this:
put mactoiso(numtochar(166))

Is anyone else seeing either or both of these problems?


Thanks
Ron
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Re: My Enterprise has been sold.

2007-12-17 Thread Bill Marriott
Hi Andrew,

Pricing is something we do look at periodically, but don't expect it to 
change frequently.

I just want to point out something important. There is NO cost of 
ownership for Enterprise or Studio. Once you own a license it's yours to 
use however you like for as long as you like.

What maintaining an active license DOES is to grant you a larger discount on 
future upgrades and updates.

Currently:

- Three months of new versions are included with initial purchase
- Early Update Packs include a year of new versions. They cost $199 Studio 
/ $499 Enterprise
- Update Packs also include a year of new versions. They cost $299 Studio 
/ $749 Enterprise

The difference is that early update pack pricing is available while your 
license is current -- anytime within the initial three months or while 
another update pack is in effect. You save 50% of the cost of a new license 
with the early updates, and 25% off the cost of a new license with the 
regular updates. The regular update pack is available to all owners of that 
license no matter how long they've gone without updates.

The update packs are about just that -- updates. Rest assured that if you 
buy (for example) version 2.8.1, you will always be able to use version 
2.8.1 without additional cost.

By the way An interesting and often overlooked fact is that Revolution 
licenses are per *user* licenses, which means that you can install it on as 
many computers as you personally use, so long as you're the only one using 
it. There is no activation worries, either, like some well-known database 
software that gives you only two installs.

All the best,
Bill, RunRev marketing guy


Andrew Meit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in 
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Just to let folks know.
 I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost of renewal  for 
 Studio so I wont have to be priced out of ownership like I had  been with 
 Enterprise. Just a plea.

 Shalom, Andrew
 {Choose Life, Create Hope, Nurture Love, Wrestle Faith...}



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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-17 Thread Devin Asay


On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Peter Brigham wrote:

Thanks to Ken Ray, Jacqueline Gay, Eric Chatonet, and all others  
who helped clarify how the menubar works. It gives me a lot better  
basis for going ahead with my projects. This list is a godsend. It  
would be great if there were some readily available documentation  
for this kind of stuff -- I've learned a lot by browsing the  
dictionary, etc, but I haven't found any source of clarification of  
the bigger picture for these kind of things. The next area for me  
to puzzle out is using object templates and profiles. Another  
corner of Rev that the docs are woefully inadequate in explaining


Peter,

I have an extensive collection of tutorials for beginners on  
various Rev topics that my colleagues and I have put together for our  
beginning programming in Revolution course. Anyone in the Rev  
community is welcome to access them. There is a tutorial on Menus is  
Rev, among many others. Hope you find them useful.


http://revolution.byu.edu

Regards,

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-17 Thread Ken Ray
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:36:22 -0800, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:

 In supercard, if you set the picturedata of a polygon to an image's 
 path on disc, that image assumes the dimentions of the rectangle that 
 defines the smallest rectangle within which the polygon would fit.  

 Reshape the polygon and the image rectangle stretches likewise to fit 
 the new outer bounds of the new shaped polygon.  So, the image is 
 warped in height and width to fit the polygon, which isnt as good as 
 warping to fit the non-linear angular distotion of it's bounds as 
 might be achieved with the use of a quad, but in light of performance 
 it is in fact fast to fake this same overall effect through a grid of 
 interleaved triangles (so long as your grid is sufficiently fine).  I 
 found that the eye is pretty forgiving with image montage of fairly 
 low fedelity.
 
 Will someone do a quick trial with this pattern property and apply an 
 image to the content of a polygon to see if there is in fact no easy 
 way to make sure that the applied image always stretches in x and y 
 to fit the exact outer width and height of the polygon holding it?

I tried that, and there's no *easy* way AFAICT. The only thing I could 
think of would be to make it a multi-step process:

1) Take the original image (img orig), duplicate it (img dupe) and 
lock its loc.
2) Set the rect of dupe to the same size as the polygon
3) Make a new image object (img stretch) that has the same size as 
the copy.
4) Set the imageData of the stretch to the imageData of dupe
5) Set the backgroundPattern of the polygon to stretch

This of course couldn't happen dynamically in real time without 
stuttering, etc., especially on larger images. I miss SuperCard's 
manipulation of pictureData in Revolution (you can do all sorts of 
other things too like setting offsets, magnification etc.) - it would 
be a great addition to Rev...


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-17 Thread Ken Ray
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:42:22 -0700, Devin Asay wrote:

 I have an extensive collection of tutorials for beginners on 
 various Rev topics that my colleagues and I have put together for our 
 beginning programming in Revolution course. Anyone in the Rev 
 community is welcome to access them. There is a tutorial on Menus is 
 Rev, among many others. Hope you find them useful.
 
 http://revolution.byu.edu

Those are great, Devin! I knew you were teaching a course over at BYU 
but I didn't know you had this stuff available to the Rev community. 
Thanks a lot!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-17 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Hi Devin,

I go along with Ken Ray with his kudos. Great and thanks. In fact,  
since I am just about ready to start up a new series about Revolution  
on Macinstruct.com's Code Mojo column, may I have your permission to  
include a link to your tutorial site in the very first article. I  
will emphasize its value to the currently non-rev user, some of  
whom may become one shortly thereafter. Since I have not started  
writing the initial article for this new series - they will available  
every other Wednesday at www.Macinstruct.com, I will be more than  
happy to take some guidance from you regarding your course(s). The  
readers of Macinstruct.com columns come from a very broad spectrum of  
Mac Users, so the articles should produce some excellent results for  
all parties concerned.


In the event that you are not aware of my earlier contributions, back  
at the beginning of this decade I authored a somewhat similar set of  
pieces on Macinstruct.com regarding HyperCard, called The University  
of HyperCard©. I believe it was pretty popular at the time. Earlier  
this year and late last year, I wrote several articles about  
Revolution, but found myself inundated with my real work and  
stopped writing last Spring.


Now, that I once again have a little free time on my hands, I'm  
hoping to pick up where I left off; perhaps a little wiser and more  
knowledgeable about Revolution's various foibles. Guiding them to  
your tutorials would be of great service to everyone, myself  
included. Once again, Great Job!


TIA,

Joe Wilkins

On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Ken Ray wrote:


On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:42:22 -0700, Devin Asay wrote:


I have an extensive collection of tutorials for beginners on
various Rev topics that my colleagues and I have put together for our
beginning programming in Revolution course. Anyone in the Rev
community is welcome to access them. There is a tutorial on Menus is
Rev, among many others. Hope you find them useful.

http://revolution.byu.edu


Those are great, Devin! I knew you were teaching a course over at BYU
but I didn't know you had this stuff available to the Rev community.
Thanks a lot!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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RE: My Enterprise has been sold.

2007-12-17 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost of 
 renewal for Studio so I wont have to be priced out of 
 ownership like I had been with Enterprise. Just a plea.

What...no reponse from Richard Gaskin? Richard, Im shocked! :-)

A great number of users use Revolution Studio (and as far as I can tell,
also Revolution Media) for professional development - for them, the cost of
a Revolution license is very small or even irrelevant.

If you are a student/instructor, there is the academic route, and the
savings becomes greater the higher up you go (studio, enterprise).

Now what if you are a a hobbyist and you love Studio? Have you been using it
for years? Then I have a suggestion :-)

Figure out a way to offset the cost by doing a small project for someone.
Now and then I know Id love to have a project that could do X, and sometimes
it just doesn't get done because our engineering resources are strapped or
it isnt central to our overall development. Now if you consider your time
worth hundreds of dollars an hour, then the cost of upgrading Studio or
Enterprise is a small proportion of that and you shouldn't have much to
complain about. But if you arent at that point, then maybe getting someone
else to pay your upgrade costs is a possibility.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
Proactive International

Mirye Software Publishing - NA Publisher for Runtime Revolution
http://www.mirye.com

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Re: Developer Dreams... Random Numbers

2007-12-17 Thread David Glasgow





If you're looking for random numbers, Random.org is a great source.


Or you could fire up an 8 bit Atari, which also used a physical RNG.

Learn here

http://www.atarimagazines.com/v7n11/randomatari.html

how (circa 1990) to get round the beastly problem of *only* being  
able to generate true, non-repeating random numbers ;-)


Best Wishes,

David Glasgow
Carlton Glasgow Partnership

http://www.i-psych.co.uk
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FYI: Flash disabled in QT 7.3.1

2007-12-17 Thread Josh Mellicker
If you have shipped products containing Quicktime movies that have  
interactive Flash tracks (as we have), when your customers update to  
QT 7.3.1, the movies will not play, and your product will be dead on  
arrival.


Pulling support for Flash without any ability for developers to  
certify their movies as safe or providing any option/warning for  
the consumer is a questionable move for a company wanting to  
establish a standard.


Vista engineers would have put in a few Allow dialogs but given the  
user the choice :-o


---

QuickTime

CVE-ID: CVE-2007-4707

Available for: Mac OS X v10.3.9, Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later, Mac OS X  
v10.5 or later, Windows Vista, XP SP2


Impact: Multiple vulnerabilities in QuickTime's Flash media handler

Description: Multiple vulnerabilities exist in QuickTime's Flash  
media handler, the most serious of which may lead to arbitrary code  
execution. With this update, the Flash media handler in QuickTime is  
disabled except for a limited number of existing QuickTime movies  
that are known to be safe.




http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=307176

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1292332tstart=0
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Accessing Addressbook and iCal

2007-12-17 Thread Thorsten Hohage

Hi,

I know Rev is cross plattform and this query is not, BUT is there a  
recommend / common way to access the Apple Addressbook and perhaps  
then new Leo only iCal-Framework. Any ready build class available,  
or must I really do it on my own?


TIA

regards

Thorsten Hohage
--
objectmanufactur.com - Hamburg,Germany


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Re: Accessing Addressbook and iCal

2007-12-17 Thread Jim Sims


On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Thorsten Hohage wrote:

I know Rev is cross plattform and this query is not, BUT is there a  
recommend / common way to access the Apple Addressbook and perhaps  
then new Leo only iCal-Framework. Any ready build class  
available, or must I really do it on my own?



Applescript might be your friend here.
You can do an applescript from Rev.

For starters, look here...

http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.21/21.10/ 
ScriptingAddressBook/index.html


sims

ClipaSearch Pro
http://www.ClipaTools.com

Across Platforms - Code and Culture
http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/




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Re: My Enterprise has been sold.

2007-12-17 Thread Richard Gaskin

Lynn Fredricks wrote:
I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost of 
renewal for Studio so I wont have to be priced out of 
ownership like I had been with Enterprise. Just a plea.


What...no reponse from Richard Gaskin? Richard, Im shocked! :-)


How so?

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RE: My Enterprise has been sold.

2007-12-17 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 Lynn Fredricks wrote:
  I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost 
 of renewal 
  for Studio so I wont have to be priced out of ownership like I had 
  been with Enterprise. Just a plea.
  
  What...no reponse from Richard Gaskin? Richard, Im shocked! :-)
 
 How so?

When lowering prices are a topic of discussion it always makes me think of
you and maintaining the $1K price point.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Proactive International, LLC

- Because it is about who you know.(tm)
http://www.proactive-intl.com 

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Re: My Enterprise has been sold.

2007-12-17 Thread Richard Gaskin

Lynn Fredricks wrote:
 Lynn Fredricks wrote:
 I hope in the year(s) ahead Rev can finally rethink cost
of renewal
 for Studio so I wont have to be priced out of ownership like I had
 been with Enterprise. Just a plea.

 What...no reponse from Richard Gaskin? Richard, Im shocked! :-)

 How so?

 When lowering prices are a topic of discussion it always makes
 me think of you and maintaining the $1K price point.

While I still maintain that the data available suggests my opinion may 
be well supported, I can't fault an earnest fellow looking for a bargain. :)


And after watching the runaway success of one-unknown MySQL in its 
market, I'm increasingly of the opinion that dual-licensing may be 
beneficial for development tools, which would make both Andrew and me 
very happy.


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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-17 Thread Richard Gaskin

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
 In fact, since I am just about ready to start up a new series
 about Revolution on Macinstruct.com's Code Mojo column, may I
 have your permission to include a link to your tutorial site
 in the very first article. I will emphasize its value to the
 currently non-rev user, some of whom may become one shortly
 thereafter. Since I have not started writing the initial article
 for this new series - they will available every other Wednesday
 at www.Macinstruct.com, I will be more than happy to take some
 guidance from you regarding your course(s). The readers of
 Macinstruct.com columns come from a very broad spectrum of Mac
 Users, so the articles should produce some excellent results
 for all parties concerned.

Sounds excellent, Joe.  Looking forward to it.

When that first article comes out please drop a note here or to me 
directly if you like and I'll add a link to it from revJournal's Links page:


http://www.revjournal.com/links/

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Re: Menubar on Windows???

2007-12-17 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Hi Richard,

Thanks for your support and enthusiasm. I'll put up a note here the  
evening before each article is to appear. Going back to my original  
credo; the best way to learn is to teach.


Joe Wilkins

On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
 In fact, since I am just about ready to start up a new series
 about Revolution on Macinstruct.com's Code Mojo column, may I
 have your permission to include a link to your tutorial site
 in the very first article. I will emphasize its value to the
 currently non-rev user, some of whom may become one shortly
 thereafter. Since I have not started writing the initial article
 for this new series - they will available every other Wednesday
 at www.Macinstruct.com, I will be more than happy to take some
 guidance from you regarding your course(s). The readers of
 Macinstruct.com columns come from a very broad spectrum of Mac
 Users, so the articles should produce some excellent results
 for all parties concerned.

Sounds excellent, Joe.  Looking forward to it.

When that first article comes out please drop a note here or to me  
directly if you like and I'll add a link to it from revJournal's  
Links page:


http://www.revjournal.com/links/

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Re: My Enterprise has been sold.

2007-12-17 Thread Thorsten Hohage


On 2007-12-17, at 20:59, Richard Gaskin wrote:
And after watching the runaway success of one-unknown MySQL in its  
market, I'm increasingly of the opinion that dual-licensing may be  
beneficial for development tools, which would make both Andrew and  
me very happy.



Do you really think that the mySQL way is a good way? Especially when  
being a long term user?


1. For the first years their client side libraries was LGPL so you can  
simply use them.
2. Next step they introduced much better, enhanced new client and you  
must use it for the new version above 3.
3. They changed their licence module for client side library, NOW you  
must pay or open your full app as Open Source and far more legal  
trouble around it.


When you promised a client a technology you was forced to bite the  
bullet and pay your several hundreds - 2000 bucks all together.



Oh, you say it doesn't matter, you choose the OpenSource way? Perhaps  
a good decision for scientific or pure hobby work. But what if we try  
to think Lynns sample (do one small app each year to pay your  
subscription) a step further.


Once you build (accidently) a nice app for an innovative small Shop,  
of course w/o paying everything is free, it's OpenSource. They put all  
their business logic in the app and are quite happy to pay no licence  
fees at all. A few days later a competitor see the software and get  
knowledge about the choosen licence model and so you receive a formal  
letter requesting the source code. I guess this innovative small shop  
is not really happy to see his business logic went away ;-)


I must admit, I'm a commercial, professional software developer and  
not a hobbyist. But using many different tools, I sometimes pay an  
upgrade for a product, I didn't use for a year, so I'm in this sense  
in a similar situation like many hobbyist regarding this unused (=not  
earn money with it) tool.


But I still prefer to pay my lower subscription for e.g. Valentina  
instead of mySQL, or Rev, RB, ... instead of OpenSource version of Qt,  
I know I must pay, but I feel so much safer with it. And if you ever  
feel you need to pay so much simply check the current seat licence  
for an IBM WebSphere Developer or something similar.


regards

Thorsten Hohage
--
objectmanufactur.com - Hamburg,Germany


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You don't have one of the selected engines!

2007-12-17 Thread Paul Gabel

Hello everybody:

I'm trying to build a standalone using Rev 2.8.1, but I keep getting  
this error message: You don't have one of the selected engines! I  
have no idea what this means or what I could be doing wrong. In the  
Standalone Settings I chose building only for Mac OS X Universal.  
Would someone please help me out. Thanks.


Paul Gabel
iMac Intel
Leopard 10.5.1
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Re: You don't have one of the selected engines!

2007-12-17 Thread Phil Davis

Hi Paul,

The message would normally mean the file Standalone is missing from 
your Mac's /Applications/YourRevFolder/Runtime/PlatformName folder. 
It does seem unlikely that your OS X UB Standalone file would be 
missing. Is it possible that the Windows checkbox is also checked in 
your Standalone Application Settings window? If this is the case and 
you've never made a Windows standalone on your Mac with 2.8.1, that 
could explain why you got the message. If I recall correctly, when this 
happens Rev will ask you to allow the downloading of the missing engine 
(aka Standalone file).


I may not have every detail correct above, but this at least gives you a 
trail to follow.


Phil Davis



Paul Gabel wrote:

Hello everybody:

I'm trying to build a standalone using Rev 2.8.1, but I keep getting 
this error message: You don't have one of the selected engines! I 
have no idea what this means or what I could be doing wrong. In the 
Standalone Settings I chose building only for Mac OS X Universal. 
Would someone please help me out. Thanks.


Paul Gabel
iMac Intel
Leopard 10.5.1

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