Re: Photo Processing , Gallery and IPTC Data app
If it were Apple Only it would be so easy, but we need a cross platform solution. Andre is looking into SIPS (yes if you have code we could use it!) and he is looking at a VB /ASP solution for Windows. But, at least for version 1.0 if photos are coming in at 2.5 Megs of smaller (typical for my users) a clean native transcript solution for the downsizing and preview thumbnails is not all that bad...open, scale down, write image data to a new image and save out... if you do it as invisible. You would be surprised... naive users are also fairly patient. If you tell them "It will take me about 5 minutes to process your 50 images" that's just fine with them.. they do something else, go do email for a few minutes and come back. They are happy if a) it works b) they don't have to know how it works c) nothing breaks. Professionals tend to be speed addicts and they can't stand it. they want the computer do everything right now... Those impatient users who do have knowledge and skills usually have no problem with two step process: they can use Photoshop batch process (Adobe killed Image Ready which was too bad...) or that cool little program called "Down Size" and *then* open them in my app... save us the trouble of trying to bundling all that. So then we only need to write a small bit of IPTC data, data, caption, author of caption, that's about it, keywords possibly...back into the files... so that's were EXIFTools comes in. Ian Wood wrote: On 25 Jan 2008, at 02:18, Sivakatirswami wrote: Ian: Thanks for your insights and input. I'm happy to have a professional Photographer on the scene! (we are in touch with many...where are you located?) SW England. Yes, right we are doing a bit of re-inventing here... but I *think* we have the kind of functional specification that will provide a most *only* 2 user choices: -Size; - output quality (and both of these from pull down menus with defaults preset) Reinventing the wheel here is about building a tool UI for naive users. That delivers what you want to a specification that is otherwise relatively complex in terms of the processing requirement. Doh! I derailed things with the mention of RAW and assumed from your reply that it was going to be used by dedicated photographers. 1) download camera, resize, help them with selection with some CMS in the background (save originals in one folder, build thumbs in another etc) run filter (unsharp mask) 2) add captions, save that data as part of the IPTC 3) bundle and email or upload I have yet to see any application that does that and only that. Photo Mechanic would be about the closest, but leaves out the sizing, USM and uploading. I've already seen what happens if you try to ask these same naive users to buy (they won't) get their heads around (they can't) properly use (they won't) tools like Aperture, iView (now Expressions owned by MS.. our favorite) ... These apps are wonderful, to be sure, but a) costly b) feature heavy to the point of being difficult to use. Agreed. They are specialist apps which require time (and interest) to learn. >From your mention of MBP & Cinema Displays, will it be Mac-specific or wider? There's quite a few bits in OS X which will help. A few ideas in the order of your steps above, assuming OS X: 1) a. Image Capture can be set to send all the images it downloads to an application (such as your ingester). A short screen video showing how to do this will keep life really b. SIPS for making thumbnails in a new folder, I can probably dig out some code for this. Note - SIPS can also be called via AppleScript but this is considerably slower. c. Wilhelm for USM. :-) 2) a. Might be worth adding keywording as well, unless you want to do all of that in Portfolio once the files are back at base. b. Definitely EXIFTools for adding the info to the files. I don't (yet) have any direct experience of using it, but from everything I've read it's pretty easy if you are confident in the command line. I believe that it can be distributed and used freely. 3) No comments. Interface-wise, I think the moving of thumbnails around the screen is likely to be the tricky bit, but it sounds like you've already noticed that... Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revdberr,invalid database type - ODBC - library not loaded
Hi Robert, If I'm reading your revOpenDatabase script correctly, you're 3rd parameter is incorrect. Try this: revOpenDatabase("ODBC","Remote_EBCO_ODBC",,"userName","password") (just remove the double quotes from the 3rd parameter, as in revs doc copied below...) I use ODBC connections to MSSQL 2000 and that's the way I do it. >From Rev's Docmentation: "To use a DSN to identify an ODBC database, use the DSN as the host, and leave the databaseName parameter empty." HTH Mark Stuart Robert Eppich wrote: > > Mac OS X 10.5.1(powerPC), Rev 2.8.1 I keep getting the error: > > "revdberr,invalid database type" > > using the function: > > revOpenDatabase("ODBC","Remote_EBCO_ODBC","","userName","password") > > ODBC Administrator is configured and tests correctly, as does 'Get > External Data' > 'New Database Query...' in MS Excel. > > Using other database types, like MySql, works fine, but ODBC always > returns " invalid database type. > > My console shows this error indicating a library was not loaded. > > 1/26/08 9:49:02 AM Revolution[1309] Error loading /Users/epic1/Desktop/ > eC Revolution Enterprise/2.8.1-gm-3/Externals/Database Drivers/ > dbodbc.bundle/Contents/MacOS/dbodbc: dlopen(/Users/epic1/Desktop/eC > Revolution Enterprise/2.8.1-gm-3/Externals/Database Drivers/ > dbodbc.bundle/Contents/MacOS/dbodbc, 262): Library not loaded: /usr/ > lib/libiodbc.2.1.6.dylib >Referenced from: /Users/epic1/Desktop/eC Revolution Enterprise/ > 2.8.1-gm-3/Externals/Database Drivers/dbodbc.bundle/Contents/MacOS/ > dbodbc >Reason: image not found > > Any ideas how to fix this? I have downloaded and re-installed Rev > 2.8.1 without success. > > Thanks > Robert Eppich > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/revdberr%2Cinvalid-database-type-ODBC---library-not-loaded-tp15110942p15115552.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[DOCs] Missing Newsletter Archives
Anyone shed some light on where the 'missing' newsletters are? Basically the last 6 months of 2007. I clicked on the 'Newsletter Archive' link at the bottom of the latest issue #41 and was taken to a page which had editions #1 - #27, but where are #28 - #40? Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'the files' and 'the folders' and diacriticals
Viktoras, having got the filename, is it possible to actially do anything with the file, ie. open, read, write etc.? I've had no luck with this (and a confirmation from RunRev that Rev can't use unicode filenames in OS X). Best, Mark On 26 Jan 2008, at 20:37, viktoras didziulis wrote: Hi Mark, forwarding the original posts on non-english file names by Kenji Kojima (2008-01-16) that describe a possible solution of your problem :-): put "cd ~/Desktop" &cr& "ls" into tScript set the unicodeText of fld 1 to uniencode(shell(tScript),utf8) The first line was shell command got list names of files in working directory. You got UTF8 filenames. Then it's converted to UTF16 and set the test field 1. Best regards Viktoras Mark E. Powell wrote: Want to give this one last swag before throwing in the towel. If I want to use shell() to point a command line application to the folder below. C:\říkáme\ How do I do it? I am currently running 2.8.0. Perhaps something has changed in later versions that improves Rev's ability to preserve diacriticals in file and folder names when using 'the files' and 'the folders'? Thanks in advance. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can Rev Draw a Line?
On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Kenji Kojima wrote: on mouseup create image "boxes" set the rect of img "boxes" to 100,100,500,500 choose brush tool -- change brush to different numbers/shapes set the brush to 15 set the brushcolor to "green" drag from 150,150 to 350,350 set the brushcolor to "blue" drag from 300,300 to 450,450 choose browse tool end mouseup this works for me as a script for a button greetings Bernd Hi, It works on development, but not on standalone. ManOSX10.5.1 and WindowsXP, Rev 2.8.1 Do I have to set any in the standalone application setting? The patterns and brushes are not automatically included in standalones, and the standalone builder does not have an option to include them. This is fixed for the next release. For now, you have to copy the patterns and brushes into your stack manually. There are quite a few stacks involved. The easiest way is to set the preferences to show Revolution stacks in lists, then use the Application Browser to find all the stacks that work with cursors, patterns, and brushes. Clone those and make them substacks of your main stack. Or wait for 2.9. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Thanks. I will try. -- Kenji Kojima RGB MusicLab: Pixels into Music http://www.kenjikojima.com/rgbmusiclab/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can Rev Draw a Line?
Kenji Kojima wrote: on mouseup create image "boxes" set the rect of img "boxes" to 100,100,500,500 choose brush tool -- change brush to different numbers/shapes set the brush to 15 set the brushcolor to "green" drag from 150,150 to 350,350 set the brushcolor to "blue" drag from 300,300 to 450,450 choose browse tool end mouseup this works for me as a script for a button greetings Bernd Hi, It works on development, but not on standalone. ManOSX10.5.1 and WindowsXP, Rev 2.8.1 Do I have to set any in the standalone application setting? The patterns and brushes are not automatically included in standalones, and the standalone builder does not have an option to include them. This is fixed for the next release. For now, you have to copy the patterns and brushes into your stack manually. There are quite a few stacks involved. The easiest way is to set the preferences to show Revolution stacks in lists, then use the Application Browser to find all the stacks that work with cursors, patterns, and brushes. Clone those and make them substacks of your main stack. Or wait for 2.9. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Re: Look and Learn . . .
I understood what Wolfgang meant when I read his original post. It raised my eyebrows for a brief moment because of my own cultural/ linguistic moorings, but it made sense when I filtered it by trying to understand his intent, and that he was likely not raised in an English-speaking context. It was a blunt statement, yes, but that can make for efficient code, no? :) An amusing parallel: For many folks in Mexico the word "estúpido" is considered on a par with the F-word or worse. While it's certainly never a compliment when used to someone's face, it, and its forms, are far more common in other parts of the Spanish-speaking world, and in English its parallel is quite common (a stupid joke, etc). So when I teach Mexican kids, my role is to be sensitive to their gasps... yes, the young ones literally draw their breath in disbelief and wonder/fear when they hear or read the cognate thrown around in English. They are indeed ignorant of how "stupid" is used outside their own micro-culture. They are not stupid, of course, but in this context they are definitely ignorant. There's no shame or insult in that. So I explain to them that words only hold the emotional charge that we give them ourselves, though our cultural upbringing. I'm always amazed at how often and well people from other countries communicate in English, and sheepish at how few Americans can communicate in another language. Perhaps if we are bothered by something that seems out of kilter from a non-English native, we should ask first what was intended: "X, did you mean to insult Y? Because directly calling someone Z in most of the English speaking world could easily be considered an insult." The language of the web is not english! Its spanglish denglish, singlish, chinglish, aranglish, etc.. I couldn't agree more. Mark___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'the files' and 'the folders' and diacriticals
Hi Mark, forwarding the original posts on non-english file names by Kenji Kojima (2008-01-16) that describe a possible solution of your problem :-): put "cd ~/Desktop" &cr& "ls" into tScript set the unicodeText of fld 1 to uniencode(shell(tScript),utf8) The first line was shell command got list names of files in working directory. You got UTF8 filenames. Then it's converted to UTF16 and set the test field 1. Best regards Viktoras Mark E. Powell wrote: Want to give this one last swag before throwing in the towel. If I want to use shell() to point a command line application to the folder below. C:\říkáme\ How do I do it? I am currently running 2.8.0. Perhaps something has changed in later versions that improves Rev's ability to preserve diacriticals in file and folder names when using 'the files' and 'the folders'? Thanks in advance. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
broken windows in screen mirroring mode (Tiger)
...so I connected my macbook to media projector, switched to "mirror mode" to have the same view in both screens, started my application (compiled on windows xp), and saw its windows broken into parts and pieces, all the formatting lost... Is it a bug of Revolution or MacOSX ? When using the default "extended desktop" mode then everything looks correctly, so the bug manifests itself in "screen mirroring mode" only. Did anyone observe anything like this ? At least I did not find any reports in quality center... Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: URL Scheme Handled by a Rev Application
Thanks Trevor It took me a while but I was able to make it work. And as you said, the space was necessary to create an empty key. Regards, Andres Martinez www.baKno.com On Jan 26, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Jan 25, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Andres Martinez wrote: Thanks to your help I am already getting a URL to open a Rev App and pass some parameters. But only on Mac OS X. Now I want to do the same on Windows. Trevor told me how to receive parameters (thanks again) but first I need to change the registry in order for Windows to launch the application when the URL is called. I found that Rev already has a function called setRegistry(). But it seems to be a very delicate procedure and I want to know if any of you have done this same surgery before. As far as I know I need to do the following: - Add a new key to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT called 'myprog' - Add an empty string to this key called 'URL Protocol' - Add the sub-keys: \shell\open\command - Set the value of the default string inside the command key to: " c:\my prog\prog.exe %1" Andres, This is a pretty standard modification to the registry so don't be scared :-) Here is an example that registers an app to process a url protocol. Note that I am setting ssurl\URL Protocol to a space. This is because Rev deletes registry keys if you set the key to an empty value. I'm not sure if that is the wisest way to go about it but that is what Rev does. In any case the protocol still works with the value set to space. on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo put "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\" into thePrefix put setregistry(thePrefix & "myurl\", "URL:Alert Protocol") into wasSuccessful put setregistry(thePrefix & "myurl\URL Protocol", " ") into wasSuccessful put setregistry(thePrefix & "myurl\shell\open\command\", \ quote & "C:\Program Files\ScreenSteps\ScreenSteps.exe" & quote && quote & "%1" & quote) into wasSuccessful end mouseUp Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Re: Look and Learn . . .
On Jan 26, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: However, this list is conducted in English, and in English, it is an insult to call someone " an ignorant" whatever. Period. End. You can spend time with root words, definitions, etc. but here it's perceived as an insult. When I first read Wolfgang's comment, I thought "whoa, that is pushing it", but then, taking it in context, and Wolfgang's non- native use of English, I realized he meant it not as an insult, but more to the genuine meaning of the term. Ignorant Much in the same way that I ignorantly used the wrong hotkeys and sent my mail early. ;-) Anyway, Wolfgang didn't mean to insult, and Richmond didn't take insult. But, *I* will apologize for extending the thread. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Re: Look and Learn . . .
On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: However, this list is conducted in English, and in English, it is an insult to call someone " an ignorant" whatever. Period. End. You can spend time with root words, definitions, etc. but here it's perceived as an insult. When I first read Wolfgang's comment, I thought "whoa, that is pushing it", but then, taking it in context, and Wolfgang's non-native use of English, I realized he meant it not as an insult, but more to the genuine meaning of the term. Ignorant -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revdberr,invalid database type - ODBC - library not loaded
Mac OS X 10.5.1(powerPC), Rev 2.8.1 I keep getting the error: "revdberr,invalid database type" using the function: revOpenDatabase("ODBC","Remote_EBCO_ODBC","","userName","password") ODBC Administrator is configured and tests correctly, as does 'Get External Data' > 'New Database Query...' in MS Excel. Using other database types, like MySql, works fine, but ODBC always returns " invalid database type. My console shows this error indicating a library was not loaded. 1/26/08 9:49:02 AM Revolution[1309] Error loading /Users/epic1/Desktop/ eC Revolution Enterprise/2.8.1-gm-3/Externals/Database Drivers/ dbodbc.bundle/Contents/MacOS/dbodbc: dlopen(/Users/epic1/Desktop/eC Revolution Enterprise/2.8.1-gm-3/Externals/Database Drivers/ dbodbc.bundle/Contents/MacOS/dbodbc, 262): Library not loaded: /usr/ lib/libiodbc.2.1.6.dylib Referenced from: /Users/epic1/Desktop/eC Revolution Enterprise/ 2.8.1-gm-3/Externals/Database Drivers/dbodbc.bundle/Contents/MacOS/ dbodbc Reason: image not found Any ideas how to fix this? I have downloaded and re-installed Rev 2.8.1 without success. Thanks Robert Eppich ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Free Limited Time Spaghetti Western Soundtrack from Meshbox
http://meshbox.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=1555174%3ATopic%3A531 Meshbox Design and authorized Revolution reseller Content Paradise are giving away a royalty free soundtrack for a limited time. More information is above. They will probably pull this freebie in the next day or two, so better grab it now. Here's a quick link to the 15 second preview of this track: http://www.mirye.com/audio/meshbox/preview/spaghettiwesternvolume1/thehiredk illers-preview-mp3-192kbps.mp3 You can find Revolution on Content Paradise as well: http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/search.php?substring=&provider=my0&so rtby=date Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC - Because it is about who you know.(tm) http://www.proactive-intl.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can Rev Draw a Line?
on mouseup create image "boxes" set the rect of img "boxes" to 100,100,500,500 choose brush tool -- change brush to different numbers/shapes set the brush to 15 set the brushcolor to "green" drag from 150,150 to 350,350 set the brushcolor to "blue" drag from 300,300 to 450,450 choose browse tool end mouseup this works for me as a script for a button greetings Bernd Hi, It works on development, but not on standalone. ManOSX10.5.1 and WindowsXP, Rev 2.8.1 Do I have to set any in the standalone application setting? Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima RGB MusicLab: Pixels into Music http://www.kenjikojima.com/rgbmusiclab/ On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:01 PM, BNig wrote: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: URL Scheme Handled by a Rev Application
On Jan 25, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Andres Martinez wrote: Thanks to your help I am already getting a URL to open a Rev App and pass some parameters. But only on Mac OS X. Now I want to do the same on Windows. Trevor told me how to receive parameters (thanks again) but first I need to change the registry in order for Windows to launch the application when the URL is called. I found that Rev already has a function called setRegistry(). But it seems to be a very delicate procedure and I want to know if any of you have done this same surgery before. As far as I know I need to do the following: - Add a new key to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT called 'myprog' - Add an empty string to this key called 'URL Protocol' - Add the sub-keys: \shell\open\command - Set the value of the default string inside the command key to: " c: \my prog\prog.exe %1" Andres, This is a pretty standard modification to the registry so don't be scared :-) Here is an example that registers an app to process a url protocol. Note that I am setting ssurl\URL Protocol to a space. This is because Rev deletes registry keys if you set the key to an empty value. I'm not sure if that is the wisest way to go about it but that is what Rev does. In any case the protocol still works with the value set to space. on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo put "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\" into thePrefix put setregistry(thePrefix & "myurl\", "URL:Alert Protocol") into wasSuccessful put setregistry(thePrefix & "myurl\URL Protocol", " ") into wasSuccessful put setregistry(thePrefix & "myurl\shell\open\command\", \ quote & "C:\Program Files\ScreenSteps\ScreenSteps.exe" & quote && quote & "%1" & quote) into wasSuccessful end mouseUp Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Re: Look and Learn . . .
I apologize for the 'grammar' comment. I am not the language police, that's absurd. It's the first time I've done that on this (international) list. However, this list is conducted in English, and in English, it is an insult to call someone " an ignorant" whatever. Period. End. You can spend time with root words, definitions, etc. but here it's perceived as an insult. Why don't you just apologize for your comment, like I did, and we can move on. The language of the web is not english! Its spanglish denglish, singlish, chinglish, aranglish, etc... Sorry to the language list police from the US Department of Homeland Security, seems watching this list. Sorry again, if this post is not grammatically perfect. (But I´ve tried harder, i have not time to do so allways) -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT Re: Look and Learn . . .
Dear Heather, On 23.01.2008, at 10:37, Heather Nagey wrote: Richmond called himself a snob - acceptable, clearly he was not likely to offend himself by doing so. You called someone else ignorant. Unacceptable. Sorry, cant see the offense. Check the root of the word ignore (latin ignorare) It means: not to know/see. Whats bad about "not knowing"? There are a lot of things in this world I dont know. I have no problem to admit that. Also rather pointless, I fail to see what you were hoping to achieve by doing so. Its a pity that such an interesting thread has been hijacked by an unnecessary controversy. It was not! I cant believe, that on a professional list - correct me if it isnt anymore - nobody knows what means "OT" into the subject of a posting. Hijacked have not I, hijacked have the grammar fellows and advocates. I would like to see an apology, but if that is not forthcoming please do not post any justifications to the list - thats not what this list is for. Richmond did not need any advocate, he has replied perfectly. His answer did not need any helpless help, it deserves "standing ovations". Read it again, before "you" ask me for an apology, what i would do, if *he* asks for: But, I see it different: Ignorant is not an offense, if a person *does not know*. It would be an offense, if a person does not *want* to know. Thats exactly what a snob does: Demonstrating that he does not *want* to know. (Snobs often let others feel that they are stupid or less worth.) The language of the web is not english! Its spanglish denglish, singlish, chinglish, aranglish, etc... Sorry to the language list police from the US Department of Homeland Security, seems watching this list. Sorry again, if this post is not grammatically perfect. (But I´ve tried harder, i have not time to do so allways) You are right Heather, all that is not what this list is for. Amen Unfortunatly this list has lost a lot of esprit, inspiration, charisma (and charismatic people), it had many years. Therefore i liked it a lot. Sorry that I m still occasionally watching this list. I m doing it, because of these charismatic, controversial fellows/ladies, who are posting here sometimes. And, because I m clandestinely hoping rev will become anytime, i had expected many years ago. (For my project seems to late now, because the tool i need is born.) I can give up watching the list, if you prefer, or, you can exclude me, if you like. regards wolfgang bereuter ... http://www.demel.com http://www.internettrainer.com ... Edelhofg. 17/11, A-1180 Wien, Austria Tel: ++43/1/ 479 6410 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ELEFAT
"Be there, or be square!" http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/HCSteroids/ sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyword "from"
It is well, thank you (also for Martin Blackman) René from Paris Le 26 janv. 08 à 11:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi, use "move" instead of "drag". That will work. As i understand, drag is used for buttons only. Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Keyword "from" (26-Jan-2008 10:50) From:René Micout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everybody, This is my script : on mouseUp put the loc of graphic "Start1" into coordDépart put the loc of graphic "E 4" into coordArrivée drag graphic "Start1" from coordDépart to coordArrivée end mouseUp when I clic on "Apply" button I obtain an error message : Typedrag: missing 'from' Object Button Linedrag graphic "Start1" from coordDépart to coordArrivée Hint Is it a bug ? René from Paris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyword "from"
Someone just beat me to the punch but this was my reply.. Note the description of drag - 'Simulates a mouse click and drag'. The dictionary entry hints that you can use it to move a control but it is inefficient, I don't know how to do that but you could instead use the Move command for this. > Linedrag graphic "Start1" from coordDépart to coordArrivée > Hint > Is it a bug ? > René from Paris > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyword "from"
Hi, use "move" instead of "drag". That will work. As i understand, drag is used for buttons only. Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Keyword "from" (26-Jan-2008 10:50) From:René Micout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello everybody, > This is my script : > on mouseUp >put the loc of graphic "Start1" into coordDépart >put the loc of graphic "E 4" into coordArrivée >drag graphic "Start1" from coordDépart to coordArrivée > end mouseUp > when I clic on "Apply" button I obtain an error message : > Type drag: missing 'from' > ObjectButton > Line drag graphic "Start1" from coordDépart to coordArrivée > Hint > Is it a bug ? > René from Paris > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Keyword "from"
Hello everybody, This is my script : on mouseUp put the loc of graphic "Start1" into coordDépart put the loc of graphic "E 4" into coordArrivée drag graphic "Start1" from coordDépart to coordArrivée end mouseUp when I clic on "Apply" button I obtain an error message : Typedrag: missing 'from' Object Button Linedrag graphic "Start1" from coordDépart to coordArrivée Hint Is it a bug ? René from Paris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution