Re: Rev message box
I don't know how to save the message box to disk. I have emptied the message box and save d the stack but this does not change anything. The next time I open the message box that message has been put in it ready to be executed. And if I open Rev without any stacks open and no stacks previously open then show the message box that statement is already there. I cannot get that statement to quit showing in the message box. There is a good chance I am doing something really stupid but I am not able to figure out what it is and how to correct it. What could I have done to save a message to the message box and it will be there when Rev starts and no stack is open. If I can figure it out then I can do the same without a message in the message box. -=JB=- On Mar 15, 2008, at 10:39 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Probably is. This happens when the message box is saved to disk without being cleared first. Then when you open the app, the old contents of the message field are still visible. To fix it, empty the message box and save it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
Hi David, One thing you can do is break up the file processing into a small number of records at a time, with big time gaps inserted between the record processing cycles. It'll obviously make your entire process take a lot longer, but will reduce the load on the CPU. It also will reduce the demand for memory, which in itself can make a large difference in one's computing experience. Here's one way to make that happen. The magic ingredients are: - using open / read / close file to bring a small amount of data into memory at a time - putting huge (1 sec) gaps between tiny 100-records-at-a-time processing cycles -- all in the script of a button local vMyFileIn, vMyFileOut on mouseUp -- start everything answer file Select a file to process: if it = empty then exit to top put it into vMyFileIn ask file Save output as: if it = empty then exit to top put it into vMyFileOut open file vMyFileIn for read open file vMyFileOut for write send processFile to me in 1 second end mouseUp on processFile read from file vMyFileIn for 100 lines -- puts lines into it if the result = EOF then send endProcess to me in 1 second exit to top end if put withoutZeroInItemTwo(it) into tCleanRecords write tCleanRecords to file vMyFileOut send processFile to me in 1 second end processFile function withoutZeroInItemTwo pRecords -- you know what goes here! end withoutZeroInItemTwo on endProcess close file vMyFileIn close file vMyFileOut answer File processing is completed. end endProcess HTH - there may be errors in my code - I haven't tested it... Phil Davis David Coker wrote: Since folks here on the list have been so awesome in helping me around the few trouble spots with my project, I'm just about to the point where I can start adding in the final error checking routines and working towards a beta stage... I thought I'd first touch base with you good folks to see if there is a work around for the final troubling aspect of this project. We have some pretty hefty hardware on our office machines so I haven't noticed many problems with the data I've thrown at this program while testing on those, but when working on my development machine (an older laptop with very modest specs), the CPU is running at 100% for what seems to be long periods of time. Unfortunately, during those times it's almost impossible to do any other work. Speed is a relative issue with what I'm doing with this program and not exactly the most important factor *and* there are certain portions of the processing where I do not want to sacrifice the visibility of the work being done. (Most of that aspect is done in the final stage of processing and doesn't seem to be too much of a problem.) Thanks to the advice I've already received, most of the heavy lifting is being done behind the scene in variables rather than in text fields, the screen is being locked during times that seem appropriate and I've spread around a few wait 1 with messages to help keep the program responsive to user input. Furthermore, I only see a real problem when working with data exceeding 10-15,000 records on a given run. With that said... Assuming it is possible under the circumstances, how might I go about cutting back the sometimes extended periods of time where there is a full load on the CPU, allowing them to continue working on other tasks? Any advice at all is greatly appreciated. David ___ -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
question about splash stacks
You make a standalone with a splash stack that just fires up the main one, so as to be able to save changes to the main one. There are two stacks in the folder, splash, the executable, and let say main.rev. Why is it that when you make and save changes in main.rev from the ide, they do not show up when you start main from the splash stack? And is there a simple way of editing the main stack without having to resave as a standalone each time? I was using stackrunner, which was perfect for this, and will do again as soon as Ken releases the 2.9 version. But in the meantime, why is it working this way? Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A DVD or e-version of Day One....
Like the other poster, I would be interested in a packaged version of some sort. Doesn't have to be a DVD though maybe that would be easiest, with downloadable files maybe? Or perhaps just the presentation materials? There are probably quite a few people who are conscious of being able to get the things done they need to do, but who also are aware that they are not following best, or maybe not even good, practice, and would like to get more exposed to it in a structured way. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Record sound no longer works in XP with Rev 2.7.1
You have to use the MCI commands independent of the record command. Record is dead with QT 7.4.1 and at least Rev 2.7.1. I'll post the MCI commands for recording sound if that would be helpful. Richard On Mar 14, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: It appears that set the dontUseQT to true doesn't force record sound file to use MCI. Is that what you are doing? I still get the error -43 starting recording error message. Or do you have to use MCISendString()? Richard Miller wrote: I just updated to Quicktime 7.4.1 on an XP Home and a Vista computer. Using Rev 2.7.1, the record sound command appears dead. Has this been reported by others? It's certainly a serious problem for a few of my programs. The MCI alternative still works, but I find that not nearly as flexible. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: setting http headers to mimic IE6/Win
Phil, you probably want to do something like this: set the httpHeaders to User-Agent: whatever the appropriate string for IE is and you can find out what the string is here: http://www.useragent.org/ Best, Mark On 16 Mar 2008, at 05:37, Phil Davis wrote: I barely know enough to be dangerous with this one: Does anyone know offhand what the http headers for IE6/Win look like? I want to request (and download) a url from a server that will only talk to IE on Windows. I want to put the page directly into a field without using revBrowser. Maybe the right question to ask is, Is there a proxy server or something else I can use to see my outgoing http headers from IE (e.g. revBrowser/Win)? Then I can figure out what to do. (If I could automate the selecting of all text in revBrowser, that would be an adequate alternative to what I'm asking here). I understand I'll need to use libUrlSetCustomHttpHeaders to replace Rev's native headers. I just don't know what to set the headers to. Thanks! -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
My first suggestion would be to find out WHERE it's slowing down. I use a debug stack that is really just a big text field and if I'm trying to time sections of code or find out how far a recalcitrant handler is getting before locking up, I just add time tags and a short message to the end of that stack. Once you know where the hold up is, you can work on optimizing it first. No sense in sticking your finger in a hole that isn't leaking. len morgan David Coker wrote: Since folks here on the list have been so awesome in helping me around the few trouble spots with my project, I'm just about to the point where I can start adding in the final error checking routines and working towards a beta stage... I thought I'd first touch base with you good folks to see if there is a work around for the final troubling aspect of this project. We have some pretty hefty hardware on our office machines so I haven't noticed many problems with the data I've thrown at this program while testing on those, but when working on my development machine (an older laptop with very modest specs), the CPU is running at 100% for what seems to be long periods of time. Unfortunately, during those times it's almost impossible to do any other work. Speed is a relative issue with what I'm doing with this program and not exactly the most important factor *and* there are certain portions of the processing where I do not want to sacrifice the visibility of the work being done. (Most of that aspect is done in the final stage of processing and doesn't seem to be too much of a problem.) Thanks to the advice I've already received, most of the heavy lifting is being done behind the scene in variables rather than in text fields, the screen is being locked during times that seem appropriate and I've spread around a few wait 1 with messages to help keep the program responsive to user input. Furthermore, I only see a real problem when working with data exceeding 10-15,000 records on a given run. With that said... Assuming it is possible under the circumstances, how might I go about cutting back the sometimes extended periods of time where there is a full load on the CPU, allowing them to continue working on other tasks? Any advice at all is greatly appreciated. David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problem with 2.9 Beta
Hi All, The following works fine in 2.8.1.472, but gives an error in the 2.9 Beta Release: put specialfolderpath(baseconvert(0x000d,16,10)) / into myFilePathName Any ideas on how to get this to work? I'm trying to get the Music folder of the host system. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Something I did not learn in a day
I tried it on a stack of mine and only got an error: executing at 7:32:59 AM TypeObject: object does not have this property ObjectGO! new Lineput LABEL : the label of control M of cd K of stack fld fTARGET into line KOUNT of fld fOUTLIST Hintbutton id 1030 of card id 1002 of stack C:/Documents and Settings/Len/Desktop/TEXTIFIER.rev Hope that helps. len morgan Richmond Mathewson wrote: I really ought to keep my big mouth shut (no, surely not?) as my quick joke about programming successfully buried something that is the fruit of an awful lot of thought: My TEXTIFIER stack which is available on revOnline and is the culmination of about 2 years of thinking, false-starts and so forth. So Please give it a try. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with 2.9 Beta
You don't need the 0x for the baseConvert function, does put specialfolderpath(baseconvert(000d,16,10)) / into myFilePathName work? Best, Mark On 16 Mar 2008, at 12:30, Dave wrote: Hi All, The following works fine in 2.8.1.472, but gives an error in the 2.9 Beta Release: put specialfolderpath(baseconvert(0x000d,16,10)) / into myFilePathName Any ideas on how to get this to work? I'm trying to get the Music folder of the host system. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
Once you know where the hold up is, you can work on optimizing it first. No sense in sticking your finger in a hole that isn't leaking. len morgan Heh, that's great! :) Actually though, with all of the testing I've done I'm fairly sure about the where's and what's that are causing the problem. For example with a source file containing 30,000 lines or greater: Removing lines with zeros and/or blank fields. --Huge drain 100% Sorting the lines according to the requirements --Huge drain 100% The problem is less about knowing why, but rather trying to find a user friendlier approach to dealing with it. For example, during the final stage of processing that is visible to the user (and the most time consuming), I've added a button that will pause and/or resume according to the needs of the user, which works great. That approach doesn't work well with the preprocessing that must be done and locking the screen to help speed things up only adds to what would be a potentially negative user experience. The infamous catch 22, I think. Digging through the doc's, I ran across these little gems that may prove to be helpful: idleRate Adjust the idleRate property to change the interval between periodically-sent messages. Increasing the idleRate causes these messages to be sent less frequently, and decreases the amount of CPU time the application uses. idleTicks Adjust the idleTicks property to change the interval between periodically-sent messages. Increasing the idleTicks causes these messages to be sent less frequently, and decreases the amount of CPU time the application uses. I can make the program follow different methods based on the number of lines in the target file easy enough and perhaps issue a warning about the processing requirements. Does anyone know of a way to gather specific system details such as available RAM and/or CPU speed? When combined with total line count, that would give me the ability to code in a best course of action, based on the system resources available. ;) David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with 2.9 Beta
Hi, Thanks a lot, the 0x characters work on 2.8, but not on 2.9, have changed it no. All the Best Dave On 16 Mar 2008, at 12:35, Mark Smith wrote: You don't need the 0x for the baseConvert function, does put specialfolderpath(baseconvert(000d,16,10)) / into myFilePathName work? Best, Mark On 16 Mar 2008, at 12:30, Dave wrote: Hi All, The following works fine in 2.8.1.472, but gives an error in the 2.9 Beta Release: put specialfolderpath(baseconvert(0x000d,16,10)) / into myFilePathName Any ideas on how to get this to work? I'm trying to get the Music folder of the host system. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.9 Beta Database Problem
Hi All, I ran into some problems using SQLite on the 2.9 Beta, this code works fine on 2.8.1. I then saw the compatibility panel in Preferences, installed the old drivers and restarted, now NOTHING to do with the database works at all! Help! What do I do? All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with 2.9 Beta
Dave, I believe the correct syntax is simply specialFolderpath(0x00d) It might even be possible that the quotes shouldn't be there officially, but I'm not sure. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 16 mrt 2008, at 14:25, Dave wrote: Hi, Thanks a lot, the 0x characters work on 2.8, but not on 2.9, have changed it no. All the Best Dave On 16 Mar 2008, at 12:35, Mark Smith wrote: You don't need the 0x for the baseConvert function, does put specialfolderpath(baseconvert(000d,16,10)) / into myFilePathName work? Best, Mark On 16 Mar 2008, at 12:30, Dave wrote: Hi All, The following works fine in 2.8.1.472, but gives an error in the 2.9 Beta Release: put specialfolderpath(baseconvert(0x000d,16,10)) / into myFilePathName Any ideas on how to get this to work? I'm trying to get the Music folder of the host system. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.9 Beta Database Problem
Hi All, I ran into some problems using SQLite on the 2.9 Beta, this code works fine on 2.8.1. I then saw the compatibility panel in Preferences, installed the old drivers and restarted, now NOTHING to do with the database works at all! Help! What do I do? All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiple Stacks Active at Same Time
Jacqueline, Thanks for the information. I will look into creating a pallette. Steve Won't work, I'm afraid. The lock screen command is really more like lock window. It doesn't affect the display when you are changing windows, it only works if you are changing the content inside a single window. If I remember right, you want two windows to be active at once. That isn't really possible on any OS -- the same behavior you are seeing happens in any app that has multiple documents open. However, you can force a window to the front with a script if you want, using the toplevel command or the go command. So after your user clicks a button in one stack, you can go to the other and it will be on top. If what you are trying to do is create a palette, then the solution is easy; just open your control stack as a palette: palette myStack Palettes always float on top and you won't see window titlebars flashing back and forth. Palettes require some attention to which stack is the defaultstack though, so be careful if your palette buttons use this stack in their scripts. This stack may not always be the one you think it is. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Learn Programming in 1 Day
On Mar 16, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Listen guys, my point, obviously not well made, was that making a bold claim works in getting people interested in one's product. As has been proven here, and I already understand that point you made. I like the kinds of advertising that says things like nothing cleans better than Our Brand!. That's a bold (pardon the pun) claim, but does leave you the option of saying that no matter how many other brands do clean better than yours, using nothing at al would also clean better. Of course, the advert isn't going to change now, not after being a big success, but for the mental exercise of it, Learn How to Program in 1 Day might have been better. It's still pretty bold, and yet you can be sure everyone will come away understanding how you program things, which is different to implying that programming would have been mastered. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiple Stacks Active at Same Time
Steven Axtell wrote: Is it possible to make two or more stacks active at the same time? I am building an app in which pressing certain buttons in the main stack causes a substack to open. With the substack active, further pressing of similar buttons in the mainstack causes the mainstack to quickly become active and then inactive. Likewise, the substack quickly becomes inactive and then active. It is slightly annoying when that happens (window border/title bar quickly going from active to inactive or vice versa). Have you considered moving all of the content from these windows into a single window, hiding and showing groups rather than closing and opening windows? This would resolve the window hilite issue, and may lend itself to a very contemporary look. iMovie and a great many other apps have migrated from what had traditionally been multi-window layouts to single windows with multiple panes. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: question about splash stacks
Peter Alcibiades wrote: You make a standalone with a splash stack that just fires up the main one, so as to be able to save changes to the main one. There are two stacks in the folder, splash, the executable, and let say main.rev. Why is it that when you make and save changes in main.rev from the ide, they do not show up when you start main from the splash stack? First, verify that the changes are indeed saved: quit the IDE, then re-launch, then open the stack again. If the changes that were saved are still evident, clearly we can rule out problems on that side of things, and focus on the standalone: Did you quit the standalone before checking the changes? If not, it may be possible that what you were seeing was a copy from memory, not fresh from disk. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
Hey folks, Looks like I've found a way to tame the tiger! Using a combination of visual feedback in the way of changing the cursor to watch, a status area to display progress and selective use of wait statements, this little bugger is now as responsive and well mannered as anything that runs on the machine. CPU rate is down below 50% even for the largest data thrown at it. The sacrifice here is in the overall processing time, but it's still very acceptable now that other work can be done during processing. Once I have had time to play with the routines and methods a little more, I'll try to put together a sample stack showing different ways to accomplish this. Might help the next guy running into similar difficulties. :) Again, thank you all very much for the feedback and assistance! David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
David Coker wrote: Using a combination of visual feedback in the way of changing the cursor to watch, a status area to display progress and selective use of wait statements, this little bugger is now as responsive and well mannered as anything that runs on the machine. CPU rate is down below 50% even for the largest data thrown at it. The sacrifice here is in the overall processing time, but it's still very acceptable now that other work can be done during processing. Once I have had time to play with the routines and methods a little more, I'll try to put together a sample stack showing different ways to accomplish this. Might help the next guy running into similar difficulties. :) Good work, David. Do you use and progress bars? If so, I've found them very cycle-consuming, and I tend to update them infrequently now when I'm working with large data sets. So instead of doing something like this: put 0 into i repeat for each line tLine in tData add 1 to i set the thumbpos of scrollbar progress to i ... end repeat Now I use the mod operator to reduce the number of times the progress bar is updated: put 0 into i repeat for each line tLine in tData add 1 to i if (i mod 100 = 0) then set the thumbpos of scrollbar progress to i end if ... end repeat When I made that one change to WebMerge a while back, I got an overall 50% performance boost. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
text speeds are good
While pondering David's performance questions (that I see he has
solved), I did a test of how quickly Rev deals with long strings.
Those can be slow in some cases, Director in particular, and so I
tested Rev against Director with Lingo, Director with Javascript, and
Flash with Actionscript 3. Here's the routine for both Rev and for
Director:
on filltext
put the milliseconds into ms
put into t
repeat with a = 1 to 3
put aaa after t
end repeat
put the milliseconds - ms the number of chars in t
end filltext
Apart from anything else it shows how Talk like Lingo can be! The
results were somewhat shocking though, Director (admittedly running
under Rosetta) took over 18 seconds as Lingo, and over 44 seconds as
Javascript.
Rev takes 10 milliseconds to do the same thing. Flash, with AS3, and
this routine:
filltext();
function filltext() {
var d1:Date = new Date();
var ms:int = d1.getTime();
var t:String = ;
for (var i = 0; i3; i++) {
t += aaa;
}
var d2:Date = new Date();
var nms:int = d2.getTime()
trace(nms - ms, t.length);
}
takes 5 milliseconds. I increased the loops to 300,000 to see more
exactly the timing, and Rev became 263 milliseconds, and AS3 was 70.
For completeness I tried AS2 as well, and that was 310 milliseconds
(for the 300,000 loop).
So, although Rev isn't anywhere near as fast as AS3 at handling text
strings, it is significantly faster than AS2, and a lot faster than
Director running under Rosetta. I realized I had a way to test it not
under Rosetta (can't tell you how, I'd have to kill you!), and the
300,000 loop as Lingo came out at 436 milliseconds, making Rev almost
twice the speed of Director 11, when it comes out.
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Re: text speeds are good
On Mar 16, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: So, although Rev isn't anywhere near as fast as AS3 at handling text strings, it is significantly faster than AS2, and a lot faster than Director running under Rosetta. I realized I had a way to test it not under Rosetta (can't tell you how, I'd have to kill you!), and the 300,000 loop as Lingo came out at 436 milliseconds, making Rev almost twice the speed of Director 11, when it comes out. Cool. Rev is quite string optimized... even to the point of being string based. I'm even more surprised by AS3's raw string speed. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you use and progress bars? If so, I've found them very cycle-consuming, and I tend to update them infrequently now when I'm working with large data sets. So instead of doing something like this: put 0 into i repeat for each line tLine in tData add 1 to i set the thumbpos of scrollbar progress to i ... end repeat Now I use the mod operator to reduce the number of times the progress bar is updated: put 0 into i repeat for each line tLine in tData add 1 to i if (i mod 100 = 0) then set the thumbpos of scrollbar progress to i end if ... end repeat Hello Richard, Right now I'm just using a label field that gets updated occasionally, but was thinking about adding a progress bar for a more professional appearance. When that happens, your tip above will be invaluable... thanks for that! ...now to incorporate all of this into the real application from my test stacks and start working on the remaining error handling routines. Once that's done I can start working on prettying things up a little more, shuffling the interface elements around making a spot for goodies like the progress bar. Looks like I'm almost back to the fun part again.:) David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev message box
-= JB =- wrote: I don't know how to save the message box to disk. I have emptied the message box and save d the stack but this does not change anything. The next time I open the message box that message has been put in it ready to be executed. To be honest, I'm not sure how it may have happened, but since the issue isn't showing up in other people's installations it seems likely it is something specific to your copy. It may be that you issued a save this stack command and the message box was the accidental target. And if I open Rev without any stacks open and no stacks previously open then show the message box that statement is already there. Right, the command has been saved somehow as part of the field content, so you are seeing it whenever the message box is displayed for the first time. I cannot get that statement to quit showing in the message box. There is a good chance I am doing something really stupid but I am not able to figure out what it is and how to correct it. What could I have done to save a message to the message box and it will be there when Rev starts and no stack is open. If I can figure it out then I can do the same without a message in the message box. I'm a little fuzzy on this part, but if you use the property inspector to look at the message field, you'll see a cRevMessageHistory property. There is also a custom property set with a similar name. See if the line of text appears anywhere in those properties and if so, delete it. Then do save stack 'Message box' and see if that helps. I'm not sure, but you may have to create a button in a stack to issue the save command, because if you save the message box with the save command in it, you may start seeing that line instead of the old one. Or maybe an even simpler fix would be to just reinstall Rev. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
Richard Gaskin wrote: Do you use and progress bars? If so, I've found them very cycle-consuming, and I tend to update them infrequently now when I'm working with large data sets. I'll confirm that. I recently wrote a script that had to process a lot of data, and I added a progress bar as a matter of course. The script took 6 seconds to complete. That felt like quite a long time, so I started adjusting the progress update to only change every so many cycles. The longer between updates, the faster the script ran. Then I had an epiphany and removed the progress bar altogether -- and the same data got processed in about a dozen milliseconds. The entire lag was the progress bar! Rev is so fast, sometimes you forget. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
printrotated ?? sometimes works sometimes not
Holá everybody, to print Landscape, I use the following in a button on the card: on mouseUp set the printmargins to 5,5,5,5 set the printrotated to true print card set the printrotated to false end mouseUp smiley ima That works sometimes and sometimes (same Card) not. What's wrong? Im working with 2.7.4 and w2k Thanks for your friendly help and best regards Horst -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/printrotatedsometimes-works-sometimes-not-tp16081672p16081672.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:22 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll confirm that. I recently wrote a script that had to process a lot of data, and I added a progress bar as a matter of course. The script took 6 seconds to complete. That felt like quite a long time, so I started adjusting the progress update to only change every so many cycles. The longer between updates, the faster the script ran. Then I had an epiphany and removed the progress bar altogether -- and the same data got processed in about a dozen milliseconds. The entire lag was the progress bar! Rev is so fast, sometimes you forget. Hummm... maybe I better rethink adding the progress bar entirely and stick with the occasional label field updates. =/ David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Just in case I haven't mentioned it...
The combination of RunRev and the helpful members of this list are just awesome! I originally licensed Rev a couple of years ago solely for the database capabilities it offers, which IMO is second to none. At that time, I didn't understand the official upgrade policies, got sore about it and set Rev aside for the most part. (That's called cutting the nose off to spite the face.) I began working on my current project over a year ago using *numerous* other programming tools that I have and became so discouraged with it all, I pretty much decided to give up programming completely. The complexity of what I am trying to accomplish and lack of native capabilities with the other tools just made me miserable. I even made a public announcement elsewhere that I was done with programming. Rather than manually removing all of the programming software, I actually reformatted the drive and reinstalled the O/S! I'm done, I'm done... I am DONE with it! Hating the thought of giving up, after a couple of weeks I finally decided to give it one more try, but this time using only Rev... Fast forward: In two short weeks of limited/part time coding with Rev and the help of the good folks here on the list, I can already see the light at the end of the tunnel. What an amazing product and group of people! David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Programming as a profession-the practice model
At the risk of opening a can of worms, I offer the following as a synopsis of the sentiments underlying the posts about the Learn Programming in One Day ad. The common thread seems to me to be that programming, like any other profession, is not so much taught as practiced. Just as medical or law schools teach the rudiments of the profession, the real learning takes place in the day-to-day practice. Without lifelong learning, no lawyer, doctor, or programmer will come close to achieving his/her full potential. Someone once told me in my first year of medical school that medicine is a personal philosophy, tempered by science and experience, and put into practice. It seems to me that the statement applies equally to programming. My 2 cents. M ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text speeds are good
On 16 Mar 2008, at 16:18, Colin Holgate wrote: although Rev isn't anywhere near as fast as AS3 at handling text strings I think that has to be qualified. Recently I built a routine in AS3 that had to parse through each word in a text file. I'd previously built something similar in Rev. Although it's very likely I haven't optimized the AS3 code very well, Rev appeared to run much faster than AS3. In Rev I used the repeat for each word structure which spoils us somewhat. In AS3 I first parsed the string into an array using array.split() and then looped through the array. The split was very slow. (I split on a regular expression delimiter, which may have caused the slowness. But it was the equivalent of what Rev does with for each word) For a 76K file with 13,000 words it took 1900+ms to make the array. Looping though the array takes about 460ms. In Rev, the whole thing takes less than 300ms. However, the comparison isn't scientific as I'm doing different things in the loops because of language differences. If I have time, I'll try and construct a fairer test. I don't want to start a language war here. I've been using AS3 for a while and am generally impressed. This was the first time I'd seen a speed difference that was enough to affect my perception as a user. Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Multiple Stacks Active at Same Time
Richard, I hadn't thought about that, but that does sound like an interesting approach. I will do some looking into that. Thanks, Steve Have you considered moving all of the content from these windows into a single window, hiding and showing groups rather than closing and opening windows? This would resolve the window hilite issue, and may lend itself to a very contemporary look. iMovie and a great many other apps have migrated from what had traditionally been multi-window layouts to single windows with multiple panes. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Programming as a profession-the practice model
Some excellent points, Marian. I'm a little disappointed that you didn't include Architecture in your listing of practices; even more so by computer science's use of the term architect in various aspects of the work to be done. Actually, following my involvement with computers, I became a much better Architect due to several realizations. I've mentioned this before, elsewhere; but I believe it is worth mentioning again. In my earlier days as an Architect, I found myself procrastinating, being unwilling to actually start work on a project; mostly by being overwhelmed with the magnitude of what needed to be done. Once I started breaking things down, solving little bits and pieces, the project started to be less imposing. Then it even started to be fun. But I always felt guilty about the earlier procrastination. After spending some time trying to program Macs, reading a lot of books on many programming languages, making a whole bunch of false starts, I came upon the concept of breaking the problem down into small, resolvable pieces; solving what I knew how to solve; and researching how to do the things that I didn't already know how to resolve. Unfortunately, this was never taught specifically at U.C. Berkeley where I got my architectural degree. Maybe it was implied, since we did spend an enormous amount of time with preliminary designs and working with programs for projects; however, the programs for the projects were always handed to us as a part of our assignments, with no realization of the process. Had I been studying Computer Science, that would have been one of the first things I would have be taught. (I think!) I learned this very quickly when I started writing Handlers and Functions for my computer programs. I now apply this mentality to Architecture, and have come to realize that procrastination (but by a different name) is part of all problem solving. It is during this procrastination process that we digest the requirements of a project, and start breaking it down into aha! I can solve that bits and pieces. The time is not wasted. Sometimes it even saves time by coming up with a better approach than might have been taken had we plunged right into doing it. Incidentally, this list is a great resource for that procrastination process, and then for the subsequent researching process. I only wish Architects had a similar resource, but I'm afraid we're too egotistical to admit that we don't have all the answers ourselves. You never hear an Architect self-label themselves as newbies. (enormous smile!) Joe Wilkins On Mar 16, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: At the risk of opening a can of worms, I offer the following as a synopsis of the sentiments underlying the posts about the Learn Programming in One Day ad. The common thread seems to me to be that programming, like any other profession, is not so much taught as practiced. Just as medical or law schools teach the rudiments of the profession, the real learning takes place in the day-to-day practice. Without lifelong learning, no lawyer, doctor, or programmer will come close to achieving his/her full potential. Someone once told me in my first year of medical school that medicine is a personal philosophy, tempered by science and experience, and put into practice. It seems to me that the statement applies equally to programming. My 2 cents. M ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text speeds are good
On Mar 16, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Dave Cragg wrote:
The split was very slow. (I split on a regular expression delimiter,
which may have caused the slowness. But it was the equivalent of
what Rev does with for each word) For a 76K file with 13,000 words
it took 1900+ms to make the array. Looping though the array takes
about 460ms.
I'm not sure what you would have done wrong, but try this test:
filltext();
function filltext() {
var d1:Date = new Date();
var ms:int = d1.getTime();
var t:String = ;
var w:String;
for (var i = 0; i30; i++) {
t += aab;
}
var tarray:Array = t.split(ab);
for (i = 0; itarray.length; i++) {
w = tarray[i];
}
var d2:Date = new Date();
var nms:int = d2.getTime();
trace(nms - ms, t.length);
}
Without the split or the loop through the array, it takes 63 mS, with
the split it takes 164 mS, with the loop it's 195 mS, and with the
loop and the transfer of an array entry to a string variable, it's
still only 206 mS. This is effectively a 6.9MB, 300,000 word test,
which should be more demanding than your 75k/13,000 word one.
In any case, I was trying to praise Rev's handling of something that
can be potentially slow, and not trying to find the fastest way that
it could be done.
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Re: OT: Programming as a profession-the practice model
Oops. Sorry, Joe. That was not supposed to be an all-inclusive list (it didn't include, for example, my sister's profession either-- educator). And there are many others, too. No offense was intended--I hope none was taken. I entirely agree that the lessons learned from programming have made me a better physician and vice versa. In fact, what I like best about programming is the application of the scientific method in a context that SHOULD be internally consistent. That is to say, if I do the same thing twice it should yield the same result. (Try that with human patients if you want an exercise in frustration.) Then again, I'm one of those weird people who actually enjoys beta testing. Hmm... diagnostic medicine as beta testing... works for me. ;-) I only wish Architects had a similar resource, but I'm afraid we're too egotistical to admit that we don't have all the answers ourselves. You never hear an Architect self-label themselves as newbies. (enormous smile!) Oh, yeah. And I hear my residents calling themselves newbies every day. (NOT!) :-) M On Mar 16, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Some excellent points, Marian. I'm a little disappointed that you didn't include Architecture in your listing of practices; even more so by computer science's use of the term architect in various aspects of the work to be done. Actually, following my involvement with computers, I became a much better Architect due to several realizations. I've mentioned this before, elsewhere; but I believe it is worth mentioning again. In my earlier days as an Architect, I found myself procrastinating, being unwilling to actually start work on a project; mostly by being overwhelmed with the magnitude of what needed to be done. Once I started breaking things down, solving little bits and pieces, the project started to be less imposing. Then it even started to be fun. But I always felt guilty about the earlier procrastination. After spending some time trying to program Macs, reading a lot of books on many programming languages, making a whole bunch of false starts, I came upon the concept of breaking the problem down into small, resolvable pieces; solving what I knew how to solve; and researching how to do the things that I didn't already know how to resolve. Unfortunately, this was never taught specifically at U.C. Berkeley where I got my architectural degree. Maybe it was implied, since we did spend an enormous amount of time with preliminary designs and working with programs for projects; however, the programs for the projects were always handed to us as a part of our assignments, with no realization of the process. Had I been studying Computer Science, that would have been one of the first things I would have be taught. (I think!) I learned this very quickly when I started writing Handlers and Functions for my computer programs. I now apply this mentality to Architecture, and have come to realize that procrastination (but by a different name) is part of all problem solving. It is during this procrastination process that we digest the requirements of a project, and start breaking it down into aha! I can solve that bits and pieces. The time is not wasted. Sometimes it even saves time by coming up with a better approach than might have been taken had we plunged right into doing it. Incidentally, this list is a great resource for that procrastination process, and then for the subsequent researching process. I only wish Architects had a similar resource, but I'm afraid we're too egotistical to admit that we don't have all the answers ourselves. You never hear an Architect self-label themselves as newbies. (enormous smile!) Joe Wilkins On Mar 16, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: At the risk of opening a can of worms, I offer the following as a synopsis of the sentiments underlying the posts about the Learn Programming in One Day ad. The common thread seems to me to be that programming, like any other profession, is not so much taught as practiced. Just as medical or law schools teach the rudiments of the profession, the real learning takes place in the day-to-day practice. Without lifelong learning, no lawyer, doctor, or programmer will come close to achieving his/her full potential. Someone once told me in my first year of medical school that medicine is a personal philosophy, tempered by science and experience, and put into practice. It seems to me that the statement applies equally to programming. My 2 cents. M ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list
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Re: OT: Programming as a profession-the practice model
Obviously, and it wasn't; and I wish that some of the testing done prior to drug releases were done under the auspices of some sort of beta test program. Right now, it is the pits. Approvals are literally purchased by the drug companies. Very dangerous. Back in the 60s, just after graduating from Cal, I was a detail person for one of Pfizer's subsidiaries, mostly covering anti-biotics, some of which are no longer on the market, though we extolled their virtues and played down their side-effects; i.e. liver damage among them. I became very disenchanted by the entire medical process. The only ones that impressed me as a group were the Pediatricians, D.Os. and General Practitioners. Obviously, there were isolated exceptions! Joe Wilkins On Mar 16, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Oops. Sorry, Joe. That was not supposed to be an all-inclusive list (it didn't include, for example, my sister's profession either-- educator). And there are many others, too. No offense was intended--I hope none was taken. I entirely agree that the lessons learned from programming have made me a better physician and vice versa. In fact, what I like best about programming is the application of the scientific method in a context that SHOULD be internally consistent. That is to say, if I do the same thing twice it should yield the same result. (Try that with human patients if you want an exercise in frustration.) Then again, I'm one of those weird people who actually enjoys beta testing. Hmm... diagnostic medicine as beta testing... works for me. ;-) I only wish Architects had a similar resource, but I'm afraid we're too egotistical to admit that we don't have all the answers ourselves. You never hear an Architect self-label themselves as newbies. (enormous smile!) Oh, yeah. And I hear my residents calling themselves newbies every day. (NOT!) :-) M On Mar 16, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Some excellent points, Marian. I'm a little disappointed that you didn't include Architecture in your listing of practices; even more so by computer science's use of the term architect in various aspects of the work to be done. Actually, following my involvement with computers, I became a much better Architect due to several realizations. I've mentioned this before, elsewhere; but I believe it is worth mentioning again. In my earlier days as an Architect, I found myself procrastinating, being unwilling to actually start work on a project; mostly by being overwhelmed with the magnitude of what needed to be done. Once I started breaking things down, solving little bits and pieces, the project started to be less imposing. Then it even started to be fun. But I always felt guilty about the earlier procrastination. After spending some time trying to program Macs, reading a lot of books on many programming languages, making a whole bunch of false starts, I came upon the concept of breaking the problem down into small, resolvable pieces; solving what I knew how to solve; and researching how to do the things that I didn't already know how to resolve. Unfortunately, this was never taught specifically at U.C. Berkeley where I got my architectural degree. Maybe it was implied, since we did spend an enormous amount of time with preliminary designs and working with programs for projects; however, the programs for the projects were always handed to us as a part of our assignments, with no realization of the process. Had I been studying Computer Science, that would have been one of the first things I would have be taught. (I think!) I learned this very quickly when I started writing Handlers and Functions for my computer programs. I now apply this mentality to Architecture, and have come to realize that procrastination (but by a different name) is part of all problem solving. It is during this procrastination process that we digest the requirements of a project, and start breaking it down into aha! I can solve that bits and pieces. The time is not wasted. Sometimes it even saves time by coming up with a better approach than might have been taken had we plunged right into doing it. Incidentally, this list is a great resource for that procrastination process, and then for the subsequent researching process. I only wish Architects had a similar resource, but I'm afraid we're too egotistical to admit that we don't have all the answers ourselves. You never hear an Architect self-label themselves as newbies. (enormous smile!) Joe Wilkins On Mar 16, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: At the risk of opening a can of worms, I offer the following as a synopsis of the sentiments underlying the posts about the Learn Programming in One Day ad. The common thread seems to me to be that programming, like any other profession, is not so much taught as practiced. Just as medical
Something I did not learn in a day
Thanks, Lee Morgan! I, stupidly, forgot that not all RR controls have labels. Uploaded a version with LABELS deprecated until I can whip up a loop to check if the control is a button. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text speeds are good
On 16 Mar 2008, at 18:46, Colin Holgate wrote:
filltext();
function filltext() {
var d1:Date = new Date();
var ms:int = d1.getTime();
var t:String = ;
var w:String;
for (var i = 0; i30; i++) {
t += aab;
}
var tarray:Array = t.split(ab);
for (i = 0; itarray.length; i++) {
w = tarray[i];
}
var d2:Date = new Date();
var nms:int = d2.getTime();
trace(nms - ms, t.length);
}
As I said, I used a regEx delimiter for the split. The following is
what I think is the equivalent of Rev's each word structure.
var d1:Date = new Date();
var ms:int = d1.getTime();
var t:String = ;
var w:String;
var rx:RegExp = /\s/;
for (var i:int = 0; i30; i++) {
t += aa ;
}
var tarray:Array = t.split(rx);
for (i = 0; itarray.length; i++) {
w = tarray[i];
}
var d2:Date = new Date();
var nms:int = d2.getTime();
trace(nms - ms, t.length);
On my machine, it's about 10 times slower than using a simple string
as the delimiter.
In any case, I was trying to praise Rev's handling of something
that can be potentially slow, and not trying to find the fastest
way that it could be done.
I know. And I was interested in your data. But you did make the
statement Rev isn't anywhere near as fast as AS3 at handling text
strings which could have been misinterpreted. I just wanted to point
out that it might depend on what you are doing.
Cheers
Dave
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Re: text speeds are good
You'll be pleased to hear that I thought of a way of making the AS3 version be a fairer test against what Rev is doing. I changed this line like here: //t += aab; t = t.concat(aab); Clearly t+= is a very fast way of concatenating strings, but making AS3 work using the normal string concatenation routines changes the timing from 63 mS down to 305 mS, making it a little slower than Rev. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text speeds are good
On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: I know. And I was interested in your data. But you did make the statement Rev isn't anywhere near as fast as AS3 at handling text strings which could have been misinterpreted. I don't see how that could misinterpreted, I mean, clearly I was wrong! At least when the playing field is leveled by making AS3 use normal string functions. Is there something analogous to var += in Rev, that would make for faster concatenating in simpler cases? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text speeds are good
On 16 Mar 2008, at 19:54, Colin Holgate wrote: On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Dave Cragg wrote: I know. And I was interested in your data. But you did make the statement Rev isn't anywhere near as fast as AS3 at handling text strings which could have been misinterpreted. I don't see how that could misinterpreted, Well, I clearly misinterpreted it, which is my problem. :-) And I guess my post must have come across as confrontational. My apologies. It wasn't my intention. AS3 clearly concatenates text faster than Rev. But I haven't found a way to emulate the speed of Rev's repeat for each word structure. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: setting http headers to mimic IE6/Win
Thanks Mark! Phil Mark Smith wrote: Phil, you probably want to do something like this: set the httpHeaders to User-Agent: whatever the appropriate string for IE is and you can find out what the string is here: http://www.useragent.org/ Best, Mark On 16 Mar 2008, at 05:37, Phil Davis wrote: I barely know enough to be dangerous with this one: Does anyone know offhand what the http headers for IE6/Win look like? I want to request (and download) a url from a server that will only talk to IE on Windows. I want to put the page directly into a field without using revBrowser. Maybe the right question to ask is, Is there a proxy server or something else I can use to see my outgoing http headers from IE (e.g. revBrowser/Win)? Then I can figure out what to do. (If I could automate the selecting of all text in revBrowser, that would be an adequate alternative to what I'm asking here). I understand I'll need to use libUrlSetCustomHttpHeaders to replace Rev's native headers. I just don't know what to set the headers to. Thanks! -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
I'll confirm that. I recently wrote a script that had to process a lot of data, and I added a progress bar as a matter of course. The script took 6 seconds to complete. That felt like quite a long time, so I started adjusting the progress update to only change every so many cycles. The longer between updates, the faster the script ran. Then I had an epiphany and removed the progress bar altogether -- and the same data got processed in about a dozen milliseconds. The entire lag was the progress bar! Rev is so fast, sometimes you forget. Hummm... maybe I better rethink adding the progress bar entirely and stick with the occasional label field updates. =/ Don't forget that not all computers are fast especially as the user may be doing something else that is grabbing a lot of the CPU at the time. I prefer Richard's method of occasional progress bar updates. Unless you are sure that the process will be extremely quick in all circumstances, removing the progress bar may not be a good solution. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: question about splash stacks
Peter, My guess is you're saving changes to a different main.rev than the splashscreen executable is opening. Or...you're not really saving the changes. Remember, you must issue an explicity 'save stack' for the changes to be saved, unlike Hypecard where they were always saved automatically. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
getting the color of a pixel
For something I'm trying, I want to know the color of a specified pixel on the card. I haven't yet found a built in function for that, so I made one: function getPixel x,y put the screenMouseLoc into ml set the screenMouseLoc to x+the left of this stack,y+the top of this stack put the mouseColor into mc set the screenMouseLoc to ml return mc end getPixel It works really well, and quickly, so I can carry on with what I'm trying. Was there a built in way that I should have found in the help? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the color of a pixel
Hi Colin, This might help: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/84652 Maybe it is not exactly what you need, but it help you to get started. Btw, if you go to the Economy-x-Talk homepage (see below) and click on Developers on the left side of the page, you can download a search plugin for Firefox, which searches the Revolution mail list archives. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 16 mrt 2008, at 23:21, Colin Holgate wrote: For something I'm trying, I want to know the color of a specified pixel on the card. I haven't yet found a built in function for that, so I made one: function getPixel x,y put the screenMouseLoc into ml set the screenMouseLoc to x+the left of this stack,y+the top of this stack put the mouseColor into mc set the screenMouseLoc to ml return mc end getPixel It works really well, and quickly, so I can carry on with what I'm trying. Was there a built in way that I should have found in the help? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the color of a pixel
On Mar 16, 2008, at 6:31 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/84652 Maybe it is not exactly what you need, but it help you to get started. Thanks, that could be useful. It seems to be for images though, rather than all of the pixels in a card. But for what I'm doing right now I can make something as an image, to save a bit of processor time. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the color of a pixel
Mark, Thanks for the plugin...SUPER IDEA and it works great in WinXP! On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, if you go to the Economy-x-Talk homepage (see below) and click on Developers on the left side of the page, you can download a search plugin for Firefox, which searches the Revolution mail list archives. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the color of a pixel
Hi Colin, Sorry if the script wasn't too helpful. Right now, I am a bit too busy to look at it in detail. You could check out the screenMouseLoc and the mouseColor. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 16 mrt 2008, at 23:44, Colin Holgate wrote: Thanks, that could be useful. It seems to be for images though, rather than all of the pixels in a card. But for what I'm doing right now I can make something as an image, to save a bit of processor time. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the color of a pixel
On Mar 16, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Sorry if the script wasn't too helpful. Right now, I am a bit too busy to look at it in detail. You could check out the screenMouseLoc and the mouseColor. You're so funny! Either that or really are busy. My script I posted uses those two to solve the issue. Meanwhile, the imageData thing does look promising. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
instant silent crash
Rev 2.9 just vanished while I was using it. No message saying that it had crashed. Is there likely to be a crash log of some sort somewhere for me to look at, before I open in again? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: instant silent crash
Hi Colin, Like this one? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6017 Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 17 mrt 2008, at 00:15, Colin Holgate wrote: Rev 2.9 just vanished while I was using it. No message saying that it had crashed. Is there likely to be a crash log of some sort somewhere for me to look at, before I open in again? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the color of a pixel
Nope, no built-in way. Yours is fine. Interesting is that you can also find the mouseColor under the cursor even if outside the stack. One of the ways I use to 'grab' colors from an eyedropper like tool. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: instant silent crash
You might want to check and see what externals you were using when Rev crashed. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: instant silent crash
On Mar 16, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Like this one? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6017 No, nor the one it references. Both times it's happened now it seemed like I might have invoked opencard, which was putting the imageData of an image into a local variable. Does opencard happen before or after card level objects exist? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: instant silent crash
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Colin Holgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rev 2.9 just vanished while I was using it. No message saying that it had crashed. Is there likely to be a crash log of some sort somewhere for me to look at, before I open in again? Or this one http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5623. What were you doing at the time? Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: IP to Country
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:57 AM, Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made a little stack (IPtoCountry) for any internet sleuths who want to know what country an ip address comes from. It's at: http://www.futility.co.uk/futsoft/revolutionstuff.html It downloads a db file from the ip-to-country web host. Neat! Thanks Mark. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: instant silent crash
On Mar 16, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Or this one http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5623. No. Also, the Console crashreporter area doesn't show any Revolution entries at all, so it was a really silent crash. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: instant silent crash
I had some crashes with imagedata once. I think it was when I did append data in a repeat loop (leading to exponentially increasing sized data). But it didn't crash every time. I actually wanted to set the imagedate to changed data every loop, not append data, and as the crash happened when I did something I didn't want to do, I never got around to properly test and file it. On 17 Mar 2008, at 00:27, Colin Holgate wrote: On Mar 16, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Like this one? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6017 No, nor the one it references. Both times it's happened now it seemed like I might have invoked opencard, which was putting the imageData of an image into a local variable. Does opencard happen before or after card level objects exist? -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: IP to Country
Thanks Mark, always wondered the best way to do that. regards alex Mark Smith wrote: I've made a little stack (IPtoCountry) for any internet sleuths who want to know what country an ip address comes from. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getting the color of a pixel
Colin Holgate wrote: For something I'm trying, I want to know the color of a specified pixel on the card. I haven't yet found a built in function for that, so I made one: function getPixel x,y put the screenMouseLoc into ml set the screenMouseLoc to x+the left of this stack,y+the top of this stack put the mouseColor into mc set the screenMouseLoc to ml return mc end getPixel It works really well, and quickly, so I can carry on with what I'm trying. Was there a built in way that I should have found in the help? I asked Scott Raney for a function like that many years ago, and he replied that I should do it exactly as you are doing it now. So I guess that's the officially sanctioned method. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: instant silent crash
Colin Holgate wrote: On Mar 16, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Like this one? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6017 No, nor the one it references. Both times it's happened now it seemed like I might have invoked opencard, which was putting the imageData of an image into a local variable. Does opencard happen before or after card level objects exist? After. Preopencard also can reference card objects. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Something I did not learn in a day
Ok, it seems to run but it only dumps the TEXIFIER stack details. Is that what it's supposed to do? Is there a way to point it to a stack of mine or do I need to move the scripts into my stack to make it work? By the way, it's Len Morgan, not Lee. But then, I get called lots of things. :-) leN morgan Richmond Mathewson wrote: Thanks, Lee Morgan! I, stupidly, forgot that not all RR controls have labels. Uploaded a version with LABELS deprecated until I can whip up a loop to check if the control is a button. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
I found that the throbbing default buttons in Mac OS X would really hog the CPU. The screen just sitting there in idle with a throbbing button was all it took to use up an amazing amount of CPU. Seems like a lame feature. Kee Nethery ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev message box
If you mean the property inspector that can be accessed by clicking the inspector icon in the top left corner I did that and cannot figure out how to inspect the msg box or its field etc. I reinstalled Rev and the problem remains. I do have an older version of Rev that is also in my main Rev folder but this was never a problem before. The only thing I deleted before reinstalling Rev was the version of Rev the installer placed in my Rev folder that I am using and is giving me the problem. I do not know how I saved this message (although I have used the message) and I have no idea where it is being saved too. Thanks for taking the time to reply. If you have any other ideas please let me know. -=JB=- On Mar 16, 2008, at 10:17 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm a little fuzzy on this part, but if you use the property inspector to look at the message field, you'll see a cRevMessageHistory property. There is also a custom property set with a similar name. See if the line of text appears anywhere in those properties and if so, delete it. Then do save stack 'Message box' and see if that helps. I'm not sure, but you may have to create a button in a stack to issue the save command, because if you save the message box with the save command in it, you may start seeing that line instead of the old one. Or maybe an even simpler fix would be to just reinstall Rev. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lowering high CPU rates?
Kee Nethery wrote: I found that the throbbing default buttons in Mac OS X would really hog the CPU. The screen just sitting there in idle with a throbbing button was all it took to use up an amazing amount of CPU. Seems like a lame feature. While it's true that Apple's compositing wastes a great many clock cycles for minor incremental aesthetic enhancements, and it's painfully true that the limitations of their APIs requires developers of tools like Rev and SC to jump through some pretty big hoops to allow their developers to have default buttons rendered reliable against even non-Apple-sanctioned-stripes backgrounds, the actual CPU time Rev takes up to deal with all of Apple's nonsense was tremendously reduced several versions ago. Which version are you using? In v2.9 and the last few prior, I don't recall seeing any idle state exceed 15% of total CPU time (more than ideal, perhaps, but down several times from what it once was and may be able to be brought down even lower if Apple changes their compositing API). -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Something I did not learn in a day
Lee Morgan is a cool jazz musician. Ok, it seems to run but it only dumps the TEXIFIER stack details. Is that what it's supposed to do? Is there a way to point it to a stack of mine or do I need to move the scripts into my stack to make it work? By the way, it's Len Morgan, not Lee. But then, I get called lots of things. :-) leN morgan -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev message box
-= JB =- wrote: If you mean the property inspector that can be accessed by clicking the inspector icon in the top left corner I did that and cannot figure out how to inspect the msg box or its field etc. There are a couple of ways, but try holding down command-control-shift and clicking on the field in the message box. You should get a contextual menu that allows you to inspect the field, which is named message field. I reinstalled Rev and the problem remains. I do have an older version of Rev that is also in my main Rev folder but this was never a problem before. The only thing I deleted before reinstalling Rev was the version of Rev the installer placed in my Rev folder that I am using and is giving me the problem. I'm not exactly sure where Rev stores the message history. If it isn't in those properties, you might try deleting your preferences stack. That's in: ~/Library/Preferences/Runtime Revolution/Revolution edition/revpreferences.rev Keep a copy, so if that isn't the problem you can put the old one back. I do not know how I saved this message (although I have used the message) and I have no idea where it is being saved too. Me either, but try the above and keep us posted. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
