Re: problem with drag-dropping a text string

2008-04-08 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Peter, Mark and Jacque,

Sounds better to set all this in a dragStart handler:

on dragStart
  set the dragImage to 
  [set the dragImageOffset to ]
  set the dragData[] to 
end dragStart

In your case: set the dragData["text"] to Transform(the dragData 
["text"]) -- specific function


"Managing drag and drop #2" tutorial might help you:
This stack explores all ways to manage Drag and Drop especially with  
Rev 2.9 new features: In one Rev window, between two Rev windows,  
from Rev or towards Rev with text, images, files, etc. How to create  
a drag image on-the-fly, a tools palette and many other tricks.  
Scripts fully commented. Needs Rev 2.7 or later.
You will access this tutorial through "Tutorials Picker" a free  
plugin that interfaces with the So Smart Software website in order to  
display all available tutorials stacks directly from the web.You will  
find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/.Revolution/ 
Plugins or Tutorials section.


Le 9 avr. 08 à 07:49, J. Landman Gay a écrit :

Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Jacque,
I tried this. As long as you don't pass the message, it isn't too  
late. Perhaps this is new in 2.9.
I didn't try to actually set the dragData again, though. I believe  
it is easier to store the dragdata in a variable and use the  
variable from there.


That's what I meant by "too late". When dragdrop fires, the drag  
action has already completed and you can't take advantage of the  
drop after that; all you can do is directly manipulate the text.


I am sure I used to be able to set the dragdata in other drag  
events but now in 2.9 I can't seem to make it work any more. So  
your way may be the only way now. The problem with placing the text  
in a field from within the script is that you lose the automatic  
drop placement in the field; you have to calculate it. Dragdrop can  
do that for you.


I'll play with it some more. We used to be able to set the dragdata  
but things have changed now in 2.9.


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Re: problem with drag-dropping a text string

2008-04-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Jacque,

I tried this. As long as you don't pass the message, it isn't too late. 
Perhaps this is new in 2.9.


I didn't try to actually set the dragData again, though. I believe it is 
easier to store the dragdata in a variable and use the variable from there.


That's what I meant by "too late". When dragdrop fires, the drag action 
has already completed and you can't take advantage of the drop after 
that; all you can do is directly manipulate the text.


I am sure I used to be able to set the dragdata in other drag events but 
now in 2.9 I can't seem to make it work any more. So your way may be the 
only way now. The problem with placing the text in a field from within 
the script is that you lose the automatic drop placement in the field; 
you have to calculate it. Dragdrop can do that for you.


I'll play with it some more. We used to be able to set the dragdata but 
things have changed now in 2.9.


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[ANN] Script Editor mod for Rev 2.9

2008-04-08 Thread Shao Sean
Well Rev released 2.9 (congrats) and we've released a mod for the  
script editor..



How To Use
--
1. go to the "toolset" folder in the 2.9 directory
2. make a backup of the "revscripteditor.rev" file
3. place the unzipped file you downloaded in the "toolset" directory
4. launch rev
5. ???
6. profit


What Does It Do?

- adds the splitter bar between the handler list and the script (come  
on rev, add this  to 2.9.1 please :-)

-- double-clicking the splitter will collapse/expand it

- adds script grouping kind of like GLX2 only not as fancy
-- in your script write a single line in the format "--> group  
section" (no quotes, replace "group section" with whatever you want,  
yes it's the same format as used by GLX2 just not the same code)
-- unlike GLX2 there are no pretty icons or collapsing of the group  
sections


- adds "find this handler for me plz? kthx" to the script editor
-- COMMAND+click (CONTROL+click for Windows and Linux) to find the  
handler in any of the loaded scripts following the message path  
(frontScripts, current object, group(s), card, stack, mainStack,  
libraries, backScripts)



What Doesn't It Do?
---
- removed the line numbers as I want to come up with a quicker and  
more stable routine to do it



Where To Get It
---
http://www.shaosean.tk/

Make sure to click the link for 2.9

(note to 2.8 users, I haven't updated that script editor mod with the  
new features but I don't see why this one shouldn't work for you,  
just make sure to back your stuff up!!)

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Re: Screenshot and Applescript... question

2008-04-08 Thread David Flanders

Hi Sarah,

 get shell("/usr/sbin/screencapture ~/Desktop/Screenshot.png  
filePathTwo" )  works for one monitor, however just found that if you  
have more than one monitor then just add the appropriate number of  
file paths ( with different file names of course )  and screencapture  
is smart enough to get the separate monitors.  Cool beans.


Thanks

David

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MacBook Pro
Intel, Core 2 Duo
2.33 GHz
2 Gigs RAM
OS:
Mac OSX 10.4.11
RunRev 2.8.1

On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:57 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:


The shell command screencapture has a parameter "m" that says you only
want to capture the main monitor.
What happens if you leave this out
e.g. get shell("/usr/sbin/screencapture ~/Desktop/Screenshot.png")

I only have one monitor set up here, so cannot test this.

Or using System Events & AppleScript, you can simulate the keystrokes,
like this:
tell application "System Events"
keystroke "#" using {command down, shift down}
end tell

(The keystroke character in the quotes should be whatever you get when
you type Shift-3.)

HTH,
Sarah


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Re: Screenshot and Applescript... question

2008-04-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
 >  Went over to mac OSX hints and only found applescripts using shell()
> and 'screen capture'.  I'm looking to get the OSX screenshot to function
> from applescript ( command-shift-3 ).  Can't find an example.
>
>  I can only get 'screen capture' for getting monitor 1. It won't take a png
> of monitor 2, as the OSX native screenshot will.
>
>  ( command-shift-3 ) gets me two full png's of the main monitor and the
> extended desktop.

The shell command screencapture has a parameter "m" that says you only
want to capture the main monitor.
What happens if you leave this out
e.g. get shell("/usr/sbin/screencapture ~/Desktop/Screenshot.png")

I only have one monitor set up here, so cannot test this.

Or using System Events & AppleScript, you can simulate the keystrokes,
like this:
tell application "System Events"
keystroke "#" using {command down, shift down}
end tell

(The keystroke character in the quotes should be whatever you get when
you type Shift-3.)

HTH,
Sarah
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Screenshot and Applescript... question

2008-04-08 Thread David Flanders

Hi,

 Went over to mac OSX hints and only found applescripts using  
shell() and 'screen capture'.  I'm looking to get the OSX screenshot  
to function from applescript ( command-shift-3 ).  Can't find an  
example.


I can only get 'screen capture' for getting monitor 1. It won't take  
a png of monitor 2, as the OSX native screenshot will.


( command-shift-3 ) gets me two full png's of the main monitor and  
the extended desktop.



This is a two eep! alarm. help!

tia

David

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MacBook Pro
Intel, Core 2 Duo
2.33 GHz
2 Gigs RAM
OS:
Mac OSX 10.4.11
RunRev 2.8.1

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Re: Delete a group from within a group script

2008-04-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III

Ken,

Thanks, I just figure that out. It seems that since the object that  
started the script was in the group I was getting errors so I did the  
equivalent of what you wrote.


Thanks again,

Now I just need to figure out why the defaultFolder keeps acting up.

Tom

On Apr 8, 2008, at 5:14 PM, Ken Ray wrote:


On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:37:18 +0200, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Tom,

if word 1 of the name of the owner of me is "group" then
 delete group "Group Name" of the owner of me
end if

If you are sure that the owner is always a group, you might leave out
the if-statement.


You may not be able to do this if the object whose script is currently
running is part of the group you're deleting. If that's the case, then
I'd do a quick "send ... in 20 milliseconds" to an object that is not
in the group being deleted, and run the deletion code from there:

on mouseUp
 put the long id of the owner of me into tGroup
 send "DeleteGroup tGroup" to this card in 20 milliseconds
end mouseUp

-- Card Script
on DeleteGroup pGroup
 delete pGroup
end DeleteGroup

That should work (haven't had a chance to test it though...)


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Re: Delete a group from within a group script

2008-04-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Mark, Thanks, I kept getting an error since the script was within the  
group that wanted to delete the group. I put in a handler that would  
go to the card and then in time delete the group from the card level.  
This seems to work fine now.



On Apr 8, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Tom,

if word 1 of the name of the owner of me is "group" then
 delete group "Group Name" of the owner of me
end if

If you are sure that the owner is always a group, you might leave  
out the if-statement.


Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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On 8 apr 2008, at 21:09, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to delete a group from a script within the  
same group?


thanks


Tom


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Re: problem with drag-dropping a text string

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Jacque,

I tried this. As long as you don't pass the message, it isn't too  
late. Perhaps this is new in 2.9.


I didn't try to actually set the dragData again, though. I believe it  
is easier to store the dragdata in a variable and use the variable  
from there.


Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info





On 9 apr 2008, at 01:54, J. Landman Gay wrote:



The dragdrop message is sent after the user drops the text, so it's  
too late by then. Instead, try the text parsing in dragEnter.


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Re: problem with drag-dropping a text string

2008-04-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Peter Brigham wrote:

The original selected text is dropped without modification into the 
target field. The dragDrop handler is getting triggered, since setting a 
breakpoint and doing the drag-drop opens up the script in the debugger, 
and the data is manipulated correctly as I step through the script, so 
at the end mLine contains the proper string -- but the original string 
is what appears in the target field


The dragdrop message is sent after the user drops the text, so it's too 
late by then. Instead, try the text parsing in dragEnter.


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Re: problem with drag-dropping a text string

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Peter,

This silly example works to drag and copy text from TextEdit into a  
Revolution field, in Mac OS X:


on dragDrop
  set the dragAction to "copy"
  put the dragData["text"] into myData
  replace "o" with "X" in myData
  put myData into me
end dragDrop

Just put the dragData into a variable and don't pass the dragDrop  
message.


Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info





On 9 apr 2008, at 00:34, Peter Brigham wrote:
I am trying to modify the dragdata before a text string is dropped,  
and it's not working, so I must be doing something wrong. The idea  
is for the user to select some text from one field (unlocked), and  
drag it to to a target field (unlocked), and I want to insert a tab  
in place of a space in the text and drop the modified text into the  
target field. Both fields are in the same group on the same card.  
Here's my script (in the target field):


on dragDrop
 set the dragaction to "copy"
 put the dragData into mLine -- works fine, so does using the  
'dragData["text"]'

 set the itemdelimiter to tab
 put item 2 of mLine into mChunk
 put length(word 1 of mChunk) into w
 put tab into char w+1 of mChunk
 put mChunk into item 2 of mLine
 set the dragdata to mLine
 -- set the dragdata["text"] to mLine -- I tried this too
 pass dragDrop
end dragDrop

There are no other handlers in the script, and no other dragdrop  
handlers in the group, card, or stack scripts.






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problem with drag-dropping a text string

2008-04-08 Thread Peter Brigham
I am trying to modify the dragdata before a text string is dropped,  
and it's not working, so I must be doing something wrong. The idea is  
for the user to select some text from one field (unlocked), and drag  
it to to a target field (unlocked), and I want to insert a tab in  
place of a space in the text and drop the modified text into the  
target field. Both fields are in the same group on the same card.  
Here's my script (in the target field):


on dragDrop
  set the dragaction to "copy"
  put the dragData into mLine -- works fine, so does using the  
'dragData["text"]'

  set the itemdelimiter to tab
  put item 2 of mLine into mChunk
  put length(word 1 of mChunk) into w
  put tab into char w+1 of mChunk
  put mChunk into item 2 of mLine
  set the dragdata to mLine
  -- set the dragdata["text"] to mLine -- I tried this too
  pass dragDrop
end dragDrop

There are no other handlers in the script, and no other dragdrop  
handlers in the group, card, or stack scripts.


The original selected text is dropped without modification into the  
target field. The dragDrop handler is getting triggered, since  
setting a breakpoint and doing the drag-drop opens up the script in  
the debugger, and the data is manipulated correctly as I step through  
the script, so at the end mLine contains the proper string -- but the  
original string is what appears in the target field, even when I  
substitute 'set the dragdata to "something inane"'. So the command  
'set the dragData to...' is being ignored, apparently.


I tried instead modifying the dragdata in a dragStart handler in the  
starting field, but it seems that the dragdata is not yet set at that  
point, since "put the dragdata into mLine" shows mLine = empty in the  
debugger, which doesn't really make sense -- shouldn't the engine  
know by that point what the dragdata is?


I tried putting a 'wait 25 millisecs with messages' line just after  
setting the dragdata, before passing the dragdrop, figuring maybe  
setting the dragdata property takes a little time for some reason  
(but why should it?) -- still no go.


Uh oh, another problem -- suddenly, setting the dragAction to "copy"  
now doesn't work. I swear it was working before. I just tried setting  
the dragaction in a dragstart handler and in a dragleave handler in  
the starting field, as well as in the dragdrop handler in the target  
field, but in all cases the text is moved instead of being copied,  
unless of course I hold down the optionkey. I *swear* it was working  
properly before...! Oh -- the problem is the wait with messages  
command that I just put in -- this apparently allows the dragaction  
to reset to "none." When I take out the wait command the text is  
copied and not moved. Well, that's a relief. But the original problem  
remains.


This is the first time I've messed around with drag/drop, but there  
seems to be a problem setting the dragddata. Is there something I'm  
overlooking? I'm using a Mac iBook G4, OSX 10.4.1, Studio 2.9 build  
610. Running in the IDE -- but suspending development tools doesn't  
work, so it's not an obvious IDE problem. Restarting Rev didn't do it  
either. Help!


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Re: Rev cgi store question

2008-04-08 Thread Luis

I'd add:

0.5) Secure (via https).

Cheers,

Luis.



Richard Miller wrote:
I've had difficulty finding a flexible, low-cost, easy-to-setup web 
store. If someone can suggest one, I'd appreciate it. The three pieces I 
need are:


1) process orders for overseas customers
2) offer multiple shipping options
3) allow options to be set for specific products (like color selection)

I only need to handle a half-dozen products.

Thanks.
Richard Miller


On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Richard Miller wrote:

I'd like to set up a simple web page where I collect a customer's  
billing information and process it via a Rev cgi script. I already  
have the cgi side worked out. If I set up an SSL certificate for 
this  web page (and I already have SSL in place on the cgi 
processing  side), am I all set? I guess the part I don't quite 
understand is, if  I put an SSL certificate on the web page, is there 
anything I need to  do on the Rev cgi side when the billing 
information is received (to  convert it or unencrypt it), or does 
that information come into the  cgi script in a form I can readily 
process?


Is it possible?  Sure.

Is it cost-effective?  Given the hundreds of payments systems 
available for web stores, and how much of a target for security risks 
all web stores are, do you really want to reinvent that wheel?


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Re: Rev cgi store question

2008-04-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
> > I've had difficulty finding a flexible, low-cost, easy-to-setup web
>  > store.

Have you looked at Mark Schonewille's Salery web store ?

Sarah
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Re: Rev cgi store question

2008-04-08 Thread Nicolas Cueto
> I've had difficulty finding a flexible, low-cost, easy-to-setup web
> store.

Have you heard of Zen Cart? It's an open source online store
management system, PHP based with MySQL and HTML. My 
web host provides it for free, so yours might too.

More info at http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php .

Cheers,

Nicolas Cueto
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Re: Delete a group from within a group script

2008-04-08 Thread Ken Ray
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:37:18 +0200, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> if word 1 of the name of the owner of me is "group" then
>   delete group "Group Name" of the owner of me
> end if
> 
> If you are sure that the owner is always a group, you might leave out 
> the if-statement.

You may not be able to do this if the object whose script is currently 
running is part of the group you're deleting. If that's the case, then 
I'd do a quick "send ... in 20 milliseconds" to an object that is not 
in the group being deleted, and run the deletion code from there:

on mouseUp
  put the long id of the owner of me into tGroup
  send "DeleteGroup tGroup" to this card in 20 milliseconds
end mouseUp

-- Card Script
on DeleteGroup pGroup
  delete pGroup
end DeleteGroup

That should work (haven't had a chance to test it though...)


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Re: [OT] one more Revolution exposure...

2008-04-08 Thread Ken Ray
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:54:13 +0300, viktoras didziulis wrote:

> Revolution (logo, brief description and url in the tools section) was 
> exposed in 2 posters. However no participant, or at least those that 
> I had an opportunity to talk to, have heard anything about it before 
> and I had to explain what it is.

Glad you were there!
 
> The next conference - IMDIS 2010 will take place in Paris.

Thanks for the info,

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Re: standalone maker behavior

2008-04-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Mark Swindell wrote:
Indeed I did.  But I thought the inclusions were included before the 
engine was attached.  Not so?


Oops, I missed that part, sorry. Yes, inclusions should be scanned 
before the engine gets attached, so that may not be the problem.


In that case, all I can suggest is the generic checklist, some of which 
you've already ruled out:


1. The path to the stack contains non-ASCII characters, such as 
diacritical marks or accent marks.  Avoid the use of accented or 
non-ASCII characters in path names.


2. The standalone builder is set to search for inclusions but the stack 
is password protected. Select the inclusions manually instead, or remove 
the password and have the standalone builder set it during build time.


3. Alternately, the standalone builder may be having trouble searching 
for the required inclusions regardless of password protection. Turn off 
"Search for required inclusions" and turn on "Select inclusions for the 
standalone application." Then choose the resources you need to include 
yourself in the Standalone Settings dialog.


4. The folder name is the same as your standalone's name. You need a 
unique folder name; make sure you select an empty folder with a name 
different from the standalone's name.  If you have previously built a 
standalone from the same stack, do not try to build a new one into the 
same folder. Trying to overwrite an existing standalone with a new one 
can cause problems. Rename or remove the old folder first, and then 
build. (Fixed in more recent versions of Revolution.)



5. Your source stack's file name does not use an extension, or uses an 
incorrect extension. Make sure your stack's file name ends with the 
extension ".rev"


6. Your source stack contains duplicate "message box" or "ask" or 
"answer" dialogs. Remove the embedded stacks and let the standalone 
builder add them instead. (This usually only occurs with stacks 
originally created in MetaCard.)




I think the folder name business has been fixed, so #4 probably isn't an 
issue any more. I've been bitten by the ".rev" problem in the past though.

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Re: standalone maker behavior

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Swindell
Indeed I did.  But I thought the inclusions were included before the  
engine was attached.  Not so?


Thanks
Mark

On Apr 8, 2008, at 12:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Mark Swindell wrote:
When building a standalone I get the full process, the engine is  
attached, but then the builder continues churning and the message  
says "Preparing t build standalone..." and the wheel churns forever.
I trashed the latest version of 2.9 and reinstalled.  Same  
behavior.  I tried to build in 2.8.1.  Same behavior.

Ideas?


Do you have "search for required inclusions" turned on? If it is a  
big stack, this could take a long time. It's much faster to choose  
inclusions yourself.


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Re: standalone maker behavior

2008-04-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Mark Swindell wrote:
When building a standalone I get the full process, the engine is 
attached, but then the builder continues churning and the message says 
"Preparing t build standalone..." and the wheel churns forever.


I trashed the latest version of 2.9 and reinstalled.  Same behavior.  I 
tried to build in 2.8.1.  Same behavior.


Ideas?


Do you have "search for required inclusions" turned on? If it is a big 
stack, this could take a long time. It's much faster to choose 
inclusions yourself.


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Re: Delete a group from within a group script

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Tom,

if word 1 of the name of the owner of me is "group" then
  delete group "Group Name" of the owner of me
end if

If you are sure that the owner is always a group, you might leave out  
the if-statement.


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On 8 apr 2008, at 21:09, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to delete a group from a script within the  
same group?


thanks


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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.

Thanks everyone!  I thought I was going crazy.

On Apr 8, 2008, at 2:30 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Devin Asay wrote:

On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Marian,

You have to add the icons to the stack manually, now. This is a  
problem where patterns are concerned, since there is no way to  
include patterns manually.




On 8 apr 2008, at 18:13, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:
One more thing.  This arrangement worked just fine in 2.1.2 and I  
have no idea what has changed to make it not work on import into  
2.9.


Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!

Is this related to
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4298
It's marked as resolved, but perhaps it needs to be reopened or  
another report filed. While 2.9 now allows you to select brushes  
for inclusion in the standalone, it doesn't give you a way to  
include patterns and images from the standard and MC libraries.


I noticed the same thing, and have re-opened the bug report:


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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.

Devin

I'm not sure but it certainly sounds like it might be.  I updated the  
report just now to indicate that this probably needs to be reopened.


M
On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:39 PM, Devin Asay wrote:



On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Marian,

You have to add the icons to the stack manually, now. This is a  
problem where patterns are concerned, since there is no way to  
include patterns manually.





On 8 apr 2008, at 18:13, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:
One more thing.  This arrangement worked just fine in 2.1.2 and I  
have no idea what has changed to make it not work on import into  
2.9.


Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!


Is this related to

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4298

It's marked as resolved, but perhaps it needs to be reopened or  
another report filed. While 2.9 now allows you to select brushes for  
inclusion in the standalone, it doesn't give you a way to include  
patterns and images from the standard and MC libraries.


Devin

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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Devin Asay wrote:


On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Marian,

You have to add the icons to the stack manually, now. This is a 
problem where patterns are concerned, since there is no way to include 
patterns manually.





On 8 apr 2008, at 18:13, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:
One more thing.  This arrangement worked just fine in 2.1.2 and I 
have no idea what has changed to make it not work on import into 2.9.


Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!


Is this related to

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4298

It's marked as resolved, but perhaps it needs to be reopened or another 
report filed. While 2.9 now allows you to select brushes for inclusion 
in the standalone, it doesn't give you a way to include patterns and 
images from the standard and MC libraries.


I noticed the same thing, and have re-opened the bug report:


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Education Education Software (RM)

2008-04-08 Thread David Bovill
Has anyone any experience developing Rev based software for the UK education
market? It seems they distribute Adobe Products - even Authorware!?! to
Schools but not Revolution:

   -
   http://www.rm.com/Secondary/Products/Story.asp?cref=PS224539&catref=9

Seems like there is an opportunity to develop a Rev based package for the
Eee PC - here?

Its still dominated by RM, and I am not having too much joy finding out how
to develop software for that "platform"

   - http://www.rm.com/Company/Generic.asp?cref=GP2033&position=1
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Delete a group from within a group script

2008-04-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Can anyone tell me how to delete a group from a script within the same  
group?


thanks


Tom
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Re: Rev cgi store question

2008-04-08 Thread Richard Miller
I've had difficulty finding a flexible, low-cost, easy-to-setup web  
store. If someone can suggest one, I'd appreciate it. The three  
pieces I need are:


1) process orders for overseas customers
2) offer multiple shipping options
3) allow options to be set for specific products (like color selection)

I only need to handle a half-dozen products.

Thanks.
Richard Miller


On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Richard Miller wrote:

I'd like to set up a simple web page where I collect a customer's   
billing information and process it via a Rev cgi script. I  
already  have the cgi side worked out. If I set up an SSL  
certificate for this  web page (and I already have SSL in place on  
the cgi processing  side), am I all set? I guess the part I don't  
quite understand is, if  I put an SSL certificate on the web page,  
is there anything I need to  do on the Rev cgi side when the  
billing information is received (to  convert it or unencrypt it),  
or does that information come into the  cgi script in a form I can  
readily process?


Is it possible?  Sure.

Is it cost-effective?  Given the hundreds of payments systems  
available for web stores, and how much of a target for security  
risks all web stores are, do you really want to reinvent that wheel?


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Re: FrontScripts speed

2008-04-08 Thread Tim Bleiler

Thanks for the help Richard.

That's what I was thinking also. I think I solved the problem since I  
posted the request but if anyone is interested this is what I did.


The inserted front script contains a preOpenCard handler that  
rearranges controls. I went this route because I was having problems  
with controls "jumping around" after doing a lock screen, go to card,  
rearrange controls, unlock card strategy (don't know what the problem  
is with that either). I thought by having the rearrangement occur in  
the PreOpenCard handler I could avoid the problem.  I didn't want the  
PreOpenCard handler hanging around so I was inserting it into the  
front, doing the work, then removing it. When I first tried it I  
didn't think I would need any lock screens because the rearrangement  
was in the preOpenCard handler. It turns out that's wrong. When I  
added a lock screen to the preOpenCard handler the performance  
returned to acceptable levels.


Thanks for the comments,
Tim Bleiler
University at Buffalo



On Apr 8, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Tim Bleiler wrote:
Anyone have any ideas why a script inserted into the front would  
run  MUCH slower than the same script run from a stack script  
placed in  the message path with "Start using"?


Execution speed is pretty much unaffected by the location of the  
handler in the message path, with the only exception being a very  
minor (barely measurable) increase in performance the closer a  
handler is to the front of the queue.  This means, however, that a  
frontScript would be a tiny bit faster than a library or backscript.


So whatever's causing the perceived slowdown must be related to the  
interaction of the script with others in the message path.


What does the script do?

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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Devin Asay


On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Marian,

You have to add the icons to the stack manually, now. This is a  
problem where patterns are concerned, since there is no way to  
include patterns manually.





On 8 apr 2008, at 18:13, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:
One more thing.  This arrangement worked just fine in 2.1.2 and I  
have no idea what has changed to make it not work on import into 2.9.


Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!


Is this related to

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4298

It's marked as resolved, but perhaps it needs to be reopened or  
another report filed. While 2.9 now allows you to select brushes for  
inclusion in the standalone, it doesn't give you a way to include  
patterns and images from the standard and MC libraries.


Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Refresh Table after editing record in another stack - bumped

2008-04-08 Thread william humphrey
Thanks -- I remember your excellent stack. I originally copied it and used
MySQL. Now I'm using SQLite and thinking about Valentina. I used the
database query builder because I was able to copy the way 9 to 5 reports
used to work with the "set SQL of Query" function called by right clicking a
field thus being able to search on any field in the database quickly.
You are the third industry maven to tell me that the database query builder
was perhaps something I should move on from.

I like the idea of user friendly software (thus coming from hypercard) and
the database query builder is easy for me to understand. It also seems to be
supported and minor improvements made to it by RunRev. I don't like that it
is slow (now in version 2.9). I also don't like that no one else seems to
use it.

I think ease of use in a software development platform is really important.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Sarah Reichelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> If you turn on "Revolution UI Elements in Lists" in the VIew menu, you
> will be able to show the Revolution stacks in the Application Browser
> and edit their scripts directly. You will be able to check the scripts
> there and perhaps apply them.
>
> However I see what you mean about slow updates. Have you considered
> just using the database calls yourself and not using the query
> builder? I find that to be enormously faster, and once you get used to
> it, much simpler to maintain.
>
> If you want to try this out, you might like to start by having a look
> at my MySQL test stack at .
>
> Cheers,
> Sarah
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:54 AM, william humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Thanks -- I hadn't realized that Mark was talking about his own handler.
> >
> >  The button which is "Refresh" for the database query builder is given
> it's
> >  ability in the database tab and the script is not visible. There are
> several
> >  interesting commands for the database query builder which are not
> documented
> >  anywhere. I was hoping someone knew the one for "refresh".
> >  Also I noticed that all the database functions in the new version of
> RunRev
> >  are much slower.
> >
> >  On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Sarah Reichelt <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >  > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:59 AM, william humphrey <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  > wrote:
> >  > > I have the same problem. I use the database query builder to fill
> out
> >  > fields
> >  > >  in my card and I would like to automate the "refresh" button's
> call. I
> >  > tried
> >  > >  sending mouseup to the "refresh" button and get no error but also
> >  > nothing
> >  > >  happens.
> >  > >  I tried  send "loadTable" to stack "Main Stack" and got the error:
> >  > >
> >  > >  Message execution error:
> >  > >
> >  > >  Error description: Handler: can't find handler
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >  I can't find "loadTable" in the RunRev reference manuel either.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > "loadTable" is the name of Mark's refresh handler,so unless you have
> >  > written one with the same name, it won't be found.
> >  >
> >  > If I am understanding you, there is a Refresh button which works, but
> >  > you can't call it automatically? Have a look in the script for the
> >  > Refresh button and see what it has in it. If it is all in a mouseUp
> >  > hander, you would be better separating it out into another handler
> >  > which could be called by the mouseUp and by your automatic updater
> >  > script.
> >  >
> >  > Sorry, but I don't use the database query builder, so I'm not sure
> >  > exactly what sort of scripts it produces.
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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Marian,

Don't everlay it. Instead, set the visible of the image to false and  
set the icon of the button to the ID of the image.


The IDE is the result of about a decade of decision making by perhaps  
a dozen of different developers. I guess RunRev will need to look  
into this issue some time.


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Op 8-apr-2008, om 19:15 heeft Marian Petrides, M.D. het volgende  
geschreven:
Thanks, Mark.  I've been tearing my hair out.  That appears to do  
the trick!!!  Phew.


If I import and paste the desired icon as an image and overlay the  
icon image for the button, the image appears correctly in the  
target stack when accessed from standalone.


I wonder why the IDE will allow you to select an icon that isn't  
already part of a stack's image library, at least not without  
prompting you to import it first?  Well, no matter, since you have  
solved my number one vexing problem of the day. Thanks again for  
the swift help!!


Marian


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Re: Rev cgi store question

2008-04-08 Thread Richard Gaskin

Richard Miller wrote:

I'd like to set up a simple web page where I collect a customer's  
billing information and process it via a Rev cgi script. I already  
have the cgi side worked out. If I set up an SSL certificate for this  
web page (and I already have SSL in place on the cgi processing  
side), am I all set? I guess the part I don't quite understand is, if  
I put an SSL certificate on the web page, is there anything I need to  
do on the Rev cgi side when the billing information is received (to  
convert it or unencrypt it), or does that information come into the  
cgi script in a form I can readily process?


Is it possible?  Sure.

Is it cost-effective?  Given the hundreds of payments systems available 
for web stores, and how much of a target for security risks all web 
stores are, do you really want to reinvent that wheel?


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Re: FrontScripts speed

2008-04-08 Thread Richard Gaskin

Tim Bleiler wrote:
Anyone have any ideas why a script inserted into the front would run  
MUCH slower than the same script run from a stack script placed in  
the message path with "Start using"?


Execution speed is pretty much unaffected by the location of the handler 
in the message path, with the only exception being a very minor (barely 
measurable) increase in performance the closer a handler is to the front 
of the queue.  This means, however, that a frontScript would be a tiny 
bit faster than a library or backscript.


So whatever's causing the perceived slowdown must be related to the 
interaction of the script with others in the message path.


What does the script do?

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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.
Thanks, Mark.  I've been tearing my hair out.  That appears to do the  
trick!!!  Phew.


If I import and paste the desired icon as an image and overlay the  
icon image for the button, the image appears correctly in the target  
stack when accessed from standalone.


I wonder why the IDE will allow you to select an icon that isn't  
already part of a stack's image library, at least not without  
prompting you to import it first?  Well, no matter, since you have  
solved my number one vexing problem of the day. Thanks again for the  
swift help!!


Marian


On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Marian,

Open the Image Library. Click in the stack that needs to get an  
icon. Select the picture in the Image Library and click on the Place  
button.


It is strange that I can't find any info about the Image Library in  
the User Guide, even though there is a place where it says "see the  
section about the Image Library for more information".


Best regards,

Mark Schonewille



Mark
How do I manually import icons?  Thanks.

Marian

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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Marian,

Open the Image Library. Click in the stack that needs to get an icon.  
Select the picture in the Image Library and click on the Place button.


It is strange that I can't find any info about the Image Library in  
the User Guide, even though there is a place where it says "see the  
section about the Image Library for more information".


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On 8 apr 2008, at 18:29, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:

Mark
How do I manually import icons?  Thanks.

Marian

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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.

Mark
How do I manually import icons?  Thanks.

Marian
On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi Marian,

You have to add the icons to the stack manually, now. This is a  
problem where patterns are concerned, since there is no way to  
include patterns manually.


Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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On 8 apr 2008, at 18:13, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:
One more thing.  This arrangement worked just fine in 2.1.2 and I  
have no idea what has changed to make it not work on import into 2.9.


Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!

M

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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Marian,

You have to add the icons to the stack manually, now. This is a  
problem where patterns are concerned, since there is no way to include  
patterns manually.


Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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On 8 apr 2008, at 18:13, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:
One more thing.  This arrangement worked just fine in 2.1.2 and I  
have no idea what has changed to make it not work on import into 2.9.


Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!

M

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Re: Runrev at dBug Seattle?

2008-04-08 Thread Phil Davis

Hi Bruce,

Are you in the Seattle area? Maybe you could do it!

I'm in the Portland area. I keep thinking about offering to talk with 
the Portland Mac User Group (http://www.pmug.org/) but haven't done 
anything about it yet. Maybe I should start attending their meetings first!


My brain power is devoted to other things right now. Has anyone on the 
list put together a Rev "spiel" (or at least a bullet point list of 
things to cover) suitable for MUGs anywhere? Maybe Bruce and I could use it.


Thanks -
Phil Davis


Bruce Robertson wrote:

Anybody in the northwest care to try to set up a Revolution demo for dBug,
Seattle's Mac user group?



Main meetings are the second Wednesday of the month and I'd like to see
Runrev at one of these meetings.

Bruce Robertson
  


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Re: Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.
One more thing.  This arrangement worked just fine in 2.1.2 and I have  
no idea what has changed to make it not work on import into 2.9.


Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!

M
On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:

I'm having the devil of a time with icons not appearing on buttons  
in a stack accessed from a standalone.


Here are the details:
   Target stack is a rework of a stack imported from v 2.1.2
   Target stack has buttons with generic icons on them (from the  
metacard icons list)--selected in the object inspector
   Target stack works just fine and icons show up fine when run from  
within IDE


   (OSX) Standalone stack has single button which has mouseup script  
that goes to cd 1 of the target stack:

go to cd 1 of stack "WTFO.rev"
   In setting up standalone, I do not see any option to include the  
icon library, but I have tried both "search for required  
inclusions"  and "select inclusions" followed by selecting all  
inclusions listed in the first scroll box.


Ok, so I compile the OSX standalone, move the target stack to the  
same folder as where it is located, run the standalone, it branches  
to the target stack and button is there but NO icon appears on the  
button.


HPPP!  What am I doing wrong???

Marian
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Icons don't appear

2008-04-08 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.
I'm having the devil of a time with icons not appearing on buttons in  
a stack accessed from a standalone.


Here are the details:
Target stack is a rework of a stack imported from v 2.1.2
Target stack has buttons with generic icons on them (from the  
metacard icons list)--selected in the object inspector
Target stack works just fine and icons show up fine when run from  
within IDE


(OSX) Standalone stack has single button which has mouseup script  
that goes to cd 1 of the target stack:

go to cd 1 of stack "WTFO.rev"
In setting up standalone, I do not see any option to include the  
icon library, but I have tried both "search for required inclusions"   
and "select inclusions" followed by selecting all inclusions listed in  
the first scroll box.


Ok, so I compile the OSX standalone, move the target stack to the same  
folder as where it is located, run the standalone, it branches to the  
target stack and button is there but NO icon appears on the button.


HPPP!  What am I doing wrong???

Marian
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Re: « Colors and Patterns » works once then freezes Rev.

2008-04-08 Thread Andre.Bisseret

Sivakatirswami,
Thank you so much for your long answer.
The fact that you had the same problem makes me feel less alone ;-))

I got the problem with Leopard so I will have to live with it waiting  
for the next update of it ;-) (I think I could reinstall my system and  
disk but, currently, I don't feel up to do that ;-((


I think your idea of corrupt preferences could be the good one ! I  
will try to search a bit in this way,  even if it is unlikely I will  
find a solution if you did'nt find one yourself.


Again, thanks a lot

Best regards from Grenoble
André

Le 7 avr. 08 à 23:16, Sivakatirswami a écrit :
Andre: Vous avez mes "commiserations" as  I had this exact same  
problem (Mac OSX) up to a month ago and months before that.  I could  
not find a solution. I resorted to using Eric's  marvelous little  
Rev_colorpicker 1.1  to set colors. but used the control key to pick  
up colors from the environment or photos I had open.. I had to  
completely avoid the color picker in Rev. If I clicked once in the  
inspector and clicked on the background or foreground color... I got  
it the first time but the next time I was "dead in the water..." and  
had to reboot.


I never solved the problem... the good news is: after upgrading to  
Leopard the problem went away. But.. my upgrade to Leopard was  
rocky... the auto migration of my old user failed... What this meant  
was: the installation dropped a completely clean and brand new shiny  
system on my hard drive and a new "empty user." It seemed to be a  
nuisance at first, because I had to reinstall every single  
application and move all my files from the old user to the new user,  
enable root, and fix a lot of permissions by hand from the cmd line,  
chown and chmod everything the way it should be for the new user.


In the end I was happy. I had dropped 1000's of old preferences and  
applications support files that were no longer in use...and my  
system was even more stable than before. Recently when we have any  
difficulty with Adobe software, almost in every case it is simple a  
matter of tossing out certain preferences or application support  
files and letting Photoshop (or InDesign or Version Cue) rebuild  
those and the problem goes away.


So: suspect: corrupt preferences or support files... this echos the  
ancient days of Mac OS 6-7-8 when you had had to manually chase down  
bogus extensions and preferences which used to solve most  
problems... Unfortunately, I tried to find the exact files on Mac  
system that might related to the color picker issue, but never  
identified them... so, I just had to live with it until Leopard...  
This doesn't help you much... but is just my "testimony" At the end  
of the week Revolution is still probably one of the most stable apps  
on my box... Adobe apps regularly "die" in mid-air as does Audacity,  
Thunderbird and even BBEdit. Meanwhile Revolution is pretty rock  
solid through everything.


Andre.Bisseret wrote:


Le 6 avr. 08 à 21:18, Eric Chatonet a écrit :

Bonsoir André,

Le 6 avr. 08 à 18:46, Andre.Bisseret a écrit :

Hi All,

Create a new stack

Choose « Colors and Patterns in the Inspector

Choose any item (backgroundColor for example) ; the Colors  
palette shows up and it is possible to get a color for the stack  
background ("OK" in the colors palette)


But then, if I try to use again « Colors and Patterns » in  
Inspector, the Colors palette does not show up again and Rev  
freezes ; (Clicking any where I get a beep).


Command + Maj + « . » unfreeze Rev, (not always) but it is  
impossible to use again Colors and Patterns without freezing Rev  
again.


To be able to get a new color, or a color for a new object in the  
stack, I have to quit Rev and restart it  :-((.


It is the first time I meet this issue (I used Colors and  
Patterns a lot of times before without any problem).


At first,  I thought it could be because I was using 2.9.0 but I  
just tried with 2.8.1 and I get the same issue.


What am I doing wrong ? Is there some setting I would have change  
inadvertently ?


Any help very much appreciated

Best regards from Grenoble


As you say that you encountered such an issue I can't reproduce  
here with Rev 2.8.1 and 2.9, I would be inclined to think it's a  
system issue.

Have you tried to use the color palette in Mail or TextEdit?

Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.


Bonjour Éric
Merci for your answer. As you suggested, i just tried using the  
color palette in Mail and TextEdit ; it works well in these two  
app. ! I noticed yet that the color palette is different : in Rev  
the color palette has to buttons at the bottom : cancel (Annuler  
here) and OK ; when calling it in Mail or TextEdit, these two  
buttons are not there.


Seems as if it was not the same color palette ??

Seems it"s only with Rev, I keep freezing each second time I click  
on "Colors and Patterns" in the Inspector ; seems like an infinite  
loop (In fact, I unfreeze with "command maj poi

Runrev at dBug Seattle?

2008-04-08 Thread Bruce Robertson
Anybody in the northwest care to try to set up a Revolution demo for dBug,
Seattle's Mac user group?



Main meetings are the second Wednesday of the month and I'd like to see
Runrev at one of these meetings.

Bruce Robertson 

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Re: [OT] Eee PC - got one?

2008-04-08 Thread David Bovill
Any update on this Andre - thinking of buying one. I've had a play with one
here running Windows XP... hw does Xandros lay with Rev 2.9? Can it play
QuickTime movies properly?

In the UK they have a version that ships for Schools with the RM software
installed:

   -
   http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/127976/british-firm-launches-169-laptop.html
   - http://www.rm .com/Primary/Products/Product.asp?cref=PD1030046

I've never developed anything for RM machines - I think they use a version
of windows with their own modifications anyone developed Rev based
applications for RM Systems?
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FrontScripts speed

2008-04-08 Thread Tim Bleiler

Hi,

Anyone have any ideas why a script inserted into the front would run  
MUCH slower than the same script run from a stack script placed in  
the message path with "Start using"?


Thanks,

Tim Bleiler
University at Buffalo
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Re: Rev cgi store question

2008-04-08 Thread Alex Shaw

Hi Richard

When visiting a https page, information is encrypted down the "wire" 
only. So, you do not have to do anything to decrypt it.


Be aware though that the rev engine has issues when itself is accessing 
https URLs on both Linux & OSX. See bug 3639.. 
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=3639


This is an issue if you then need to pass your collected information 
onto a secure payment gateway etc. The only solution is to then use 
another language like php or process via shell to curl.


regards
alex

Richard Miller wrote:

Will this work?

I'd like to set up a simple web page where I collect a customer's 
billing information and process it via a Rev cgi script. I already have 
the cgi side worked out. If I set up an SSL certificate for this web 
page (and I already have SSL in place on the cgi processing side), am I 
all set? I guess the part I don't quite understand is, if I put an SSL 
certificate on the web page, is there anything I need to do on the Rev 
cgi side when the billing information is received (to convert it or 
unencrypt it), or does that information come into the cgi script in a 
form I can readily process?



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Rev cgi store question

2008-04-08 Thread Richard Miller

Will this work?

I'd like to set up a simple web page where I collect a customer's  
billing information and process it via a Rev cgi script. I already  
have the cgi side worked out. If I set up an SSL certificate for this  
web page (and I already have SSL in place on the cgi processing  
side), am I all set? I guess the part I don't quite understand is, if  
I put an SSL certificate on the web page, is there anything I need to  
do on the Rev cgi side when the billing information is received (to  
convert it or unencrypt it), or does that information come into the  
cgi script in a form I can readily process?


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: how to work with binary data inside a Rev cgi script ?

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Smith
Wow - it'd be interesting to see an example of what revolution messes  
up that PHP doesn't.
I've done a small number of things that involve some working with  
binary data (id3 tags, digital audio), and it's been ok, so I would  
really be interested.


Best,

Mark

On 8 Apr 2008, at 08:57, jbv wrote:




Mark,

well, it can mean a lot of things... Presently, as I'm building pdf  
code

with data from various sources, basically I need to merge binary with
ascii data, and then make decisions according to the content of those
various data (after merging).
As long as I simply replace a keyword in the ascii data with a portion
of binary data, the binary data remains untouched... But if I need to
process the binary data before merging it (like removing some lines
or changing a single char in it) then it gets corrupted...
As said in my previous post, I bypassed the problem by making all
necessary processing in php, but that's a bit frustrating...


What do you mean by "handle"? What is it you need to do with the
binary data?

Best,

Mark

On 7 Apr 2008, at 20:21, jbv wrote:


although I'm still not
sure how to handle binary data inside a Rev cgi script...

Anyone with an elegant solution is welcomed.


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Re: Interesting error [got it and is major bug]

2008-04-08 Thread Bill Marriott
Hershel,

I'm not sure I follow exactly, but it sounds serious. If you have found a 
problem in 2.9, please

1) Reduce it to the minimal steps necessary to show the problem (a 
"recipe"). This will help confirm it's a bug and not a subtle condition in 
your specific stack
2) Please file a report in the Rev Quality Control Center (after checking to 
see whether it has been reported already).

http://quality.runrev.com

The developers do not regularly follow use-list discussions.

- Bill

"Hershel Fisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 4/6/08 6:58 PM, "Paul Gabel" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don¹t, maybe somebody knows better on how to avoid it but I think it is a
major problem. There is a "mouseUp" message 'go to stack "abc"' in a btn in
one stack pointing to another stack "abc", in stack "abc" there is a table
fld with a "mouseUp" message, that gets triggered when the "mouseUp" btn is
clicked in the previous stack. In other words it does not differentiate the
mouse click from where it comes meaning from which stack or card it was
triggered. This is only in 2.9, in 2.8.1 its good, with out any problem.
Hershel

> Hi Hershel:
>
> Look to the error that occurred and is listed in the error window just
> before the "error in statement" error. That's usually the one that's
> really causing the problem.
>
> Paul Gabel
> --
> On Apr 6, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
>
>> On 4/2/08 7:04 PM, "Hershel Fisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Let me recap, I have an interesting error,
>> "
>> executing at 6:08:50 PM
>> TypeHandler: error in statement
>> ObjectContact List
>> Linego to stack "contact list"
>> HintmouseUp
>> "
>> On mouseUp it goes to the stack, then the above error comes up. Also
>> the
>> "openStack" message does not trap?
>> Hershel
>>
>>> Hi all, I have an interesting situation, my stack when its in brows
>>> mode it
>>> runs fine but when I suspend the development tools it throws an
>>> error and an
>>> interesting one "go to stack" and only on one stack, ho do I go
>>> about it?
>>>
>>> Hershel
>>>
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[OT] one more Revolution exposure...

2008-04-08 Thread viktoras didziulis
just returned back from an international conference on marine data and 
information systems that took place in Athens 
(http://hnodc.hcmr.gr/imdis-2008/ or google for "imdis 2008"). 254 
participants, 41 country represented. Lots of talks about metadata 
standards, formats and profiles (ISO 19115, ISO 19139, netcdf, etc...), 
data semantics and ontologies, as well as various combinations of GIS 
and relational databases. Current trends in information systems were 
discussed and many examples of working systems and technologies in use 
were presented during both talks and poster sessions. It was interesting 
to observe a noticeable increase of Apple macosx and linux pc laptops 
brought by participants :-). Fortran is still in wide use, Adobes' Flex 
is on the rise. Lots of posters about use of google maps, mashups, a 
noticeable boost of different open source and related technologies 
(postgresql, mysql) in use. Increasing interest in near-real-time 
monitoring systems.


Revolution (logo, brief description and url in the tools section) was 
exposed in 2 posters. However no participant, or at least those that I 
had an opportunity to talk to, have heard anything about it before and I 
had to explain what it is.


The next conference - IMDIS 2010 will take place in Paris.

Viktoras


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Re: how to work with binary data inside a Rev cgi script ?

2008-04-08 Thread jbv


Mark,

well, it can mean a lot of things... Presently, as I'm building pdf code
with data from various sources, basically I need to merge binary with
ascii data, and then make decisions according to the content of those
various data (after merging).
As long as I simply replace a keyword in the ascii data with a portion
of binary data, the binary data remains untouched... But if I need to
process the binary data before merging it (like removing some lines
or changing a single char in it) then it gets corrupted...
As said in my previous post, I bypassed the problem by making all
necessary processing in php, but that's a bit frustrating...

> What do you mean by "handle"? What is it you need to do with the
> binary data?
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>
> On 7 Apr 2008, at 20:21, jbv wrote:
>
> > although I'm still not
> > sure how to handle binary data inside a Rev cgi script...
> >
> > Anyone with an elegant solution is welcomed.

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Re: MacNN | First Look: Revolution 2.9, cross-platform compiler

2008-04-08 Thread Stephen Barncard
True, and the 'mainstream' computer press has notoriously missed Rev 
for a long time; this is a breakthrough.


 Next: a review in MacWorld.



I'm glad the reviewer understood and articulated the difference 
between statement verbosity and total verbosity.  While not exactly 
a subtle point, it's been lost on many over the years.


--
 Richard Gaskin


--


stephen barncard
s a n  f r a n c i s c o
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Re: MacNN | First Look: Revolution 2.9, cross-platform compiler

2008-04-08 Thread viktoras didziulis
But, I guess, this is not quite correct: "Both the Media and Studio 
versions only let you compile programs for a single operating system 
while the Enterprise edition lets you compile programs for Windows, Mac 
OS X, and Linux."


Viktoras

Richard Gaskin wrote:

Stephen Barncard wrote:

except the article says:

Revolution's programming language is based on the AppleScript 
programming language, which comes with Mac OS X, and the HyperTalk 
programming language used in the once-popular HyperCard program. 
Although Revolution's language may seem wordy compared to the sparse



ooops


Out of context that snippet might seem cause for alarm, but the full 
sentence makes a very positive point:


   Although Revolution’s language may seem wordy compared to the
   sparse commands of C++, Revolution’s language makes programs
   easier to read, write, and understand.

And then the author went on to drive this home:

   More importantly, Revolution’s language allows you to perform
   functions that might require a dozen or more equivalent
   commands in any other language.

I'm glad the reviewer understood and articulated the difference 
between statement verbosity and total verbosity.  While not exactly a 
subtle point, it's been lost on many over the years.




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Re: MacNN | First Look: Revolution 2.9, cross-platform compiler

2008-04-08 Thread Ken Ray
On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:11:15 -0700, Stephen Barncard wrote:

> except the article says:
> 
> Revolution's programming language is based on the AppleScript 
> programming language, which comes with Mac OS X, and the HyperTalk 
> programming language used in the once-popular HyperCard program. 

Unfortunately this is the same mistake made by Wallace Wang in his book 
"Beginning Programming for Dummies"; but so long as it sells copies of 
Rev it doesn't bother me too much. ;-)


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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