Re: [OT] goosh.org

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Sims,

Could be a nice tool, but "place" is the only command that works.  
Everything else times out.


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On 3 jun 2008, at 06:36, Jim Sims wrote:


Interesting web application.


Command-line type web tool. Type the letter "h" for help.
Example of use: type  place Paris, France  then hit return key.

Very cool tool.


sims


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revBrowser and multi monitors

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Talluto
Anyone have any success getting revBrowswer to display flash videos on  
monitor 2 on a Mac system.  On monitor 1 I can say:

 put the rect of stack "browser" into tRect
 revBrowserSet gBrowserId, "rect", tRect

This works just fine.
When I have the browser on monitor 2, I can hear the video playing,  
but I can not see it.  The rect is correct.  Curious if anyone has run  
into this.



Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com




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[OT] goosh.org

2008-06-02 Thread Jim Sims

Interesting web application.


Command-line type web tool. Type the letter "h" for help.
Example of use: type  place Paris, France  then hit return key.

Very cool tool.


sims



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Re: Changing Properties of All Fields in a Group

2008-06-02 Thread Steven Axtell

Ken,

Thanks for the help.  I'll check it out.

Steve



The answer is "yes", and "sort of". Rev uses an inheritance model for
properties, so if you set a property of an object to empty, it will 
inherit

the property setting from its container.

So in order to do this, you'd need to have all the fields in the group 
have

*no* textColor, and then set the textColor of the group. However keep in
mind that this will affect the group itself as well, so if you're showing
the name of the group as well, it will also change to the same textColor.

You can test this in a sample stack by dragging out two fields, set their
contents (but *not* their text color), grouping them, and then setting the
foreground color of the group to red - you'll see the text in the fields
turn red.

If you've already assigned text colors to a field, you can empty it out 
and

inherit from its container by clicking the "clear" button in the Inspector
palette next to "Text".

One final thing - if you need to find out in script what text color is in
use in the field, you can't just do:

 put the textColor of  into tMyVar

because this will set tMyVar to empty (""). In order to find out what it
inherited, you need to use the "effective" keyword:

 put the effective textColor of  into tMyVar

Of course, if you can't use inheritance in your specific instance, there 
is
no single way to set the textColor for multiple fields; you'd need to use 
a

repeat loop.

HTH,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: Changing Properties of All Fields in a Group

2008-06-02 Thread Steven Axtell

Josh,

That's a good idea.  Thanks.

Steve



Could you say:

repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields in grp "myGrp"
  set the textColor of fld x of grp "myGrp" to 123,34,214
end repeat

(not tested)

On Jun 1, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Steven Axtell wrote:

Is there a command that allows one to change a property setting for  
all of the fields in a group?  For example, I want to change the  
textColor property of all of the fields in a group to a given  
color.   Rather than have a line of code for each field, I imagine  
that there is a command that will allow all of the fields to be  
changed in one line of code.  I've tried to search for possible  
keywords but haven't identified anything yet.


Thanks,

Steve Axtell



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Re: Lock Loc strangeness

2008-06-02 Thread David Bovill
No - but post a stack if you can. I'd need to know if that was a bug -
should not be?
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Lock Loc strangeness

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Smith

Hi all,

I have a group containing three transparent buttons on top of an  
imported image, which I've stretched to the desired length. The image  
has it's lock loc set to true.
At odd times, when clicking oon the buttons, the image shrinks back  
to it's 'natural' size, despite it's lock loc status.


Anyone come across this before? - I can't find any lockloc issues in  
the QA centre.


If not I'll bz it.

Best,

Mark
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Re: Palette that reacts when changeing the top stack....

2008-06-02 Thread David Bovill
Yeah - and what a nightmare to debug! Not sure if it does this in Rev IDE
but any bug or event that causes something to be put into the messagebox -
triggers the resumeStack again which can then cause infinite loops - goto
block that

2008/6/2 Mark Schonewille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi david,
>
> I'd trap the resumeStack message, sometimes the (pre)openStack message, in
> a front script.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
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>
> On 1 jun 2008, at 01:45, David Bovill wrote:
>
>  Its been a while since I've done this... what's the best way to trap for
>> this? Do I need a front script (in case the stack blocks a message) - or
>> can
>> I intercept and pass a Rev IDE specific message?
>>
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Re: Reply to both (is RR too hard / easy?) and (is RR marketed to dev'rs only)

2008-06-02 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Peter Alcibiades <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Two thoughts.
> 
> One, a big gap in Rev as a general purpose
> environment seems to be getting 
> data out in a structured form.  
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Could you do it in Quartam?  Probably, but not in
> Linux at the moment.  
> 
> I don't do this for a living, and restrict my OS
> environment, so its an 
> irritation not a showstopper, and its balanced by
> other eases of use in other 
> areas.  If I did it  for a living, and on multiple
> platforms, it would make 
> me think long and hard before adopting Rev as the
> general tool of choice.
> 

Hi Peter,

Quartam Reports has two parts: the layout builder and
the reporting engine. Both of these are built entirely
in Revolution - no externals needed (other than the
XML library that ships with Rev).

Right now, you can layout your reports on MacOSX and
Windows only - primarily because those are the two
platforms that I use on a daily basis and on which I
can easily test my libraries.

Linux is a bit of a strange animal in that respect. I
own Parallels Desktop, and I do plan to take Ubuntu
for a spin and see how well the Quartam Reports layout
builder works when built for Linux.

In the meantime, I think the majority of Rev
developers that cater for Linux, actually do so from
their Windows or Mac machines, rather than having
Linux as their dedicated development environment.

There is also the ambiguity of developing commercial
software to run on an FLOSS platform like Linux. I
admire you for your ability to stay clear of all
Microsoft products. And I will see what I can do in
the next update.

Best regards,

Jan Schenkel.

Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution


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Re: Strange URL Behavior

2008-06-02 Thread Dave Cragg


On 2 Jun 2008, at 21:24, Dave Cragg wrote:



On 2 Jun 2008, at 20:25, Dan Friedman wrote:


Anyone got any ideas on this...

Within one of my rather long routines, I am doing a simple "get" of  
a text
file off my website.  When I run this routine, rev (2.9.0) seems to  
hang on
this line of code.  It's not locked up... And I can command-period  
to get

out of it.  It also acts this way in a standalone.

OK... Here's the strange part, if I put a breakpoint on this line,  
and click
"Run" when it breaks, it works fine.  If I put an "answer" before  
the get,

it works fine.


Is there anything in the handler before the "get" line that might be  
causing problems? One thing I can think of is using libUrlResetAll.  
It can cause problems when used in the same handler before a get/ 
load/etc url call.


Dan, some more speculation...

Another possibility is using a "send ... in " call to another  
handler before the "get url" line. Normally, items on the  
pendingMessages list run at some time after the current handler ends,  
but they would run during the "get url" routine if they are due to be  
run at that time. (This is because of the way libUrl uses "waits" in  
its script.) This isn't necessarily a problem, but I guess it's  
possible that the handler that is the target of a send could do  
something that prevents the get url call from completing. (Can't think  
of an example right off.) I'm supposing that the use of breakpoint or  
answer dialog may have allowed something to complete that would  
otherwise interfere with the "get url" call.


Dave
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[ANN] Quartam Reports 1.1.1 Released and other Quartam News

2008-06-02 Thread Jan Schenkel
Aalst, June 2nd 2008 - Quartam Software announces the
release of Quartam Reports for Revolution - version
1.1.1

Since we returned from the runrevlive.08 conference,
we've been hard at work. This update to Quartam
Reports addresses all reported issues and brings a
number of enhancements to the brand-new charts on the
basis of your initial feedback.
Quartam Reports for Revolution - version 1.1
introduced stretching data fields and relative
positioning, added title and summary sections, brought
data groups to everyone and extended the Professional
edition with barcodes, 2D charts and export to HTML
and Excel.
With Quartam Reports, Revolution and just a little
SQL, you can create professional reports -
cross-platform and database-independent.

For more information and demo downloads, visit our
website at 

In other news, the quartam.com website was updated
with a more modern look and improved navigation. You
can now also follow our latest developing thoughts at


Registered users of Quartam Reports and Quartam PDF
Library are invited to join the Quartam Community
Site, powered by Ning, at  -
there you can exchange ideas and interact with your
fellow users of the Quartam developer tools.

Of course, if you have any questions or remarks, do
not hesitate to contact me directly at
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Best regards,

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Re: Strange URL Behavior

2008-06-02 Thread Dave Cragg


On 2 Jun 2008, at 20:25, Dan Friedman wrote:


Anyone got any ideas on this...

Within one of my rather long routines, I am doing a simple "get" of  
a text
file off my website.  When I run this routine, rev (2.9.0) seems to  
hang on
this line of code.  It's not locked up... And I can command-period  
to get

out of it.  It also acts this way in a standalone.

OK... Here's the strange part, if I put a breakpoint on this line,  
and click
"Run" when it breaks, it works fine.  If I put an "answer" before  
the get,

it works fine.


Is there anything in the handler before the "get" line that might be  
causing problems? One thing I can think of is using libUrlResetAll. It  
can cause problems when used in the same handler before a get/load/etc  
url call.


Cheers
Dave

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Re: Cute Hypercard busy cursor

2008-06-02 Thread Kee Nethery

David,

I too have pondered why

 set cursor to busy

uses the really old black and white rotating busy cursor from  
Hypercard of the 1900's rather than whatever is the standard on the  
platform today.


If you find that there is a command (for example):

 set cursor to century2000busycursor

or something like that, that displays this century's busy cursor,  
please let me know.


Thanks,
Kee Nethery


On Jun 2, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi David,

Apple wants you to use some kind of progress indicator, rather than  
a busy cursor or beach ball. There are also indeterminate progress  
indicators.


You can use the send command to use your own cursor, but I think you  
need to lock the cursor.


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On 1 jun 2008, at 12:27, David Bovill wrote:

Any way to get a modern looking beach ball rather than a spinning  
black an

white pie chart - much as I love it :)

My only thought is to create a "send message in ticks" loop that  
set the
cursor to a series of graphics - bit puzzled why this has not been  
updated -
or am I missing something? For instance what are the GUI  
recommendations
from Apple - the beachball is generally feared and loathed due to  
the fact
it means usually something has frozen - while the grey spinning  
"daisy"

while not a cursor is less worrying to the user.



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Closing a stack from the Application Browser

2008-06-02 Thread Graham Samuel
Using RunRev 2.9.0 on a Mac with Leopard, I have two stacks open. Both  
are mainstacks. When I highlight the name of one of the stacks in the  
Application Browser and choose 'Close and Remove from Memory" from the  
'File' menu, Rev proposed to close the non-hilighted stack if its  
window is on top of the one whose name is selected - in other words,  
the hilight in the App Browser isn't doing anything. Is this a bug? If  
so, I suppose I should report it..


Has anyone got an idea about how it should work?

Graham





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Strange URL Behavior

2008-06-02 Thread Dan Friedman
Anyone got any ideas on this...

Within one of my rather long routines, I am doing a simple "get" of a text
file off my website.  When I run this routine, rev (2.9.0) seems to hang on
this line of code.  It's not locked up... And I can command-period to get
out of it.  It also acts this way in a standalone.

OK... Here's the strange part, if I put a breakpoint on this line, and click
"Run" when it breaks, it works fine.  If I put an "answer" before the get,
it works fine.

Anyone have any thoughts?  I only have a few hairs left to pull out!

Thank you in advance,
Dan 


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Re: launch URL to get an e-mail with BCC, Subject and Body (was revMail and BCC)

2008-06-02 Thread Josh Mellicker

Have you checked out "altEmailHarness.rev"?

I tried it once and it worked perfectly.

http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm



On Jun 2, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Andre.Bisseret wrote:


Hi,
(Since yesterday I did not receive any message from the list?? I  
hope this message will be received)

--

I need to compose e-mail with addresses in BCC. revMail does not  
allow that.
Thanks to an answer from Sarah Reicheit I am now trying to use the  
mailto protocol in a launch URL command.
(launch URL is now recommanded in 2.9.0 instead of revgourl which  
still works but which is deprecated).


In order to fill in the three fields of an e-mail (BCC, Subject and  
Body), I was struggling  with (&s, &"&"&, ? etc.)

After hours of trials and errors I succeeded (partly) :

I have three variables :
tWho : contains the list of addresses to be put in the BCC field;
tSubject : contains the subject of the e-mail
tBody : contains the text of the e-mail

Then the following is working
put "launch URL" && quote & "mailto:?BCC="; & tWho & "&" & "Subject="  
& tSubject & "&" & "Body=" & tBody & quote into tCommand

do tCommand

BUT this is working only if tSubject and tBody do not include any  
special characters (including CR; so that tBpdy can't have more than  
one line).


Now my problem is with URLencode

I tried  to URLencode tSubject and tBody
Unfortunately, that does not works :
With one line only in tSubject as well as in tBody (and not special  
characters), if I URLencode them, I get an e-mail but with the  
URLencoded text !


For example I get : "Our+next+meeting+in+Paris" :-((

And furthermore, if tSubject include at leat one accented character  
then no e-mail shows up
if tBody includes at least one accented character, or several lines,  
then the Body of the e-mail is empty


So, the only case where I get a complete e-mail is when the texts of  
tSubject and tBody have only one line each, include not any special  
character and are not URLencoded.

Seems I am missing something about URLencode?

Any help would be very much appreciated

Best regards from Grenoble
André


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Re: Changing Properties of All Fields in a Group

2008-06-02 Thread Josh Mellicker

Could you say:

repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields in grp "myGrp"
  set the textColor of fld x of grp "myGrp" to 123,34,214
end repeat

(not tested)

On Jun 1, 2008, at 1:07 PM, Steven Axtell wrote:

Is there a command that allows one to change a property setting for  
all of the fields in a group?  For example, I want to change the  
textColor property of all of the fields in a group to a given  
color.   Rather than have a line of code for each field, I imagine  
that there is a command that will allow all of the fields to be  
changed in one line of code.  I've tried to search for possible  
keywords but haven't identified anything yet.


Thanks,

Steve Axtell
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Test

2008-06-02 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon

This is just a test to see if I connect

-Francis
 


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Test (delete)

2008-06-02 Thread Paul Gabel

Test (delete)
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Re: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released

2008-06-02 Thread Ken Ray

> Pardon, there is no pro version!! I bought the standard version.

Thanks, Neal... on it's way...

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Re: Changing Properties of All Fields in a Group

2008-06-02 Thread Ken Ray
> Is there a command that allows one to change a property setting for all of the
> fields in a group?  For example, I want to change the textColor property of
> all of the fields in a group to a given color.   Rather than have a line of
> code for each field, I imagine that there is a command that will allow all of
> the fields to be changed in one line of code.  I've tried to search for
> possible keywords but haven't identified anything yet.

The answer is "yes", and "sort of". Rev uses an inheritance model for
properties, so if you set a property of an object to empty, it will inherit
the property setting from its container.

So in order to do this, you'd need to have all the fields in the group have
*no* textColor, and then set the textColor of the group. However keep in
mind that this will affect the group itself as well, so if you're showing
the name of the group as well, it will also change to the same textColor.

You can test this in a sample stack by dragging out two fields, set their
contents (but *not* their text color), grouping them, and then setting the
foreground color of the group to red - you'll see the text in the fields
turn red.

If you've already assigned text colors to a field, you can empty it out and
inherit from its container by clicking the "clear" button in the Inspector
palette next to "Text".

One final thing - if you need to find out in script what text color is in
use in the field, you can't just do:

  put the textColor of  into tMyVar

because this will set tMyVar to empty (""). In order to find out what it
inherited, you need to use the "effective" keyword:

  put the effective textColor of  into tMyVar
  
Of course, if you can't use inheritance in your specific instance, there is
no single way to set the textColor for multiple fields; you'd need to use a
repeat loop.

HTH,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: Is RR too easy? Or too hard? (was) Is RunRev marketed to

2008-06-02 Thread Jim Ault
On 5/31/08 12:31 AM, "Peter Alcibiades" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> You have lets say a tab separated file with data in it.  This seems to be
> the approved way of storing a few thousand or tens of thousands of records
> of data, and indeed it does work fine for storage.  Now you want to produce
> reports out of it.  The recommended way (which I've done) seems to be one
> field per item of information, lay out the card so that it looks halfway
> decent, and then print card.
> 
> However any report is quite capable of having 50 -100 cells, more, in it.
> Now, it may be that there is an easier way, which if so it would be great to
> hear about, but addressing all those cells individually in a script so you
> go through the file and extract and calculate what is wanted is immensely
> tedious, inflexible, lengthy and error prone. Also, your reports may well be
> multiple pages, in which case layout again becomes problematic.  The card
> metaphor does fine when you are dealing with screen fulls of info, but when
> you're dealing with page fulls, less so.  Maybe there is a good way to lay
> out a field with totals and subtotals and percentages in it, and that does
> not involve addressing all the cells individually?  Even then however, in
> Linux, I would have to re-export it to a text file at the moment in order to
> format it properly for printing it.  (Yes, a bug has been filed on this.)

I don't do this kind of reporting, but used to in FileMaker many years ago.
Of course, Filemaker was layout-driven so the tools were there.

In Rev, I would use custom properties to store incoming data, formatting
definitions, and calculated results.  Loops could be made to scan the data,
sort, tabulate, cross tabulate, and summarize.  The final step would be to
print one or more pages using a single card.

This means populate fields for page one, print, then page two, etc.  This
also allows the use of headers and footers that track the page numbers.

I would think that you could have different card layouts to optimize the
choice of fonts, margins, orientation, page size.

Some advantages to using custom properties are speed, unlimited 'cells' for
storage, naming of properties, duplicating data instantly, saving the stack
would also save the custom properties (and calculated values if created),
and sub stacks could be used to help build summaries and tabulations.

Others on the list have much more experience at this than I.

Hope this helps.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released

2008-06-02 Thread Neal Campbell
Pardon, there is no pro version!! I bought the standard version.

Neal

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Neal Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think I bought the pro version and I didn't get anything but the 
> announcement.
>
> Thanks
> Neal
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   I bought the Standard Edition version of your XML library a couple
>>> of years ago. Do we get updates or is there an upgrade path?
>>
>> Purchasers of the XML Library Standard Edition get free updates of version
>> 2.x, which were sent out the day I made the announcement. In your case,
>> Stephen, I had an old email address which bounced back so I'm resending your
>> copy (if you don't get it let me know).
>>
>> Anyone else that purchased the XML Library Standard Edition who did *not*
>> already get their updates, please contact me off-list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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Re: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released

2008-06-02 Thread Neal Campbell
I think I bought the pro version and I didn't get anything but the announcement.

Thanks
Neal

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   I bought the Standard Edition version of your XML library a couple
>> of years ago. Do we get updates or is there an upgrade path?
>
> Purchasers of the XML Library Standard Edition get free updates of version
> 2.x, which were sent out the day I made the announcement. In your case,
> Stephen, I had an old email address which bounced back so I'm resending your
> copy (if you don't get it let me know).
>
> Anyone else that purchased the XML Library Standard Edition who did *not*
> already get their updates, please contact me off-list.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released

2008-06-02 Thread Ken Ray
>   I bought the Standard Edition version of your XML library a couple
> of years ago. Do we get updates or is there an upgrade path?

Purchasers of the XML Library Standard Edition get free updates of version
2.x, which were sent out the day I made the announcement. In your case,
Stephen, I had an old email address which bounced back so I'm resending your
copy (if you don't get it let me know).

Anyone else that purchased the XML Library Standard Edition who did *not*
already get their updates, please contact me off-list.

Thanks,

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Re: Is the revFont external unreliable?

2008-06-02 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jun 2, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hmmm... thanks, I should have thought of that myself. I'll ask for  
the console logs, if I can find them. Most of the time, Rev doesn't  
create any logs by itself, on my machine, particularly not after a  
crash. I hope this is different for the standalone.


This depends on the type of crash. If Rev just quits and no OS X crash  
dialog is displayed then you won't see a crash log. If the OS does  
display a crash dialog then you should be able to find a crash log.


When an external fails I have seen error messages in the Console  
before so hopefully you can find some useful information there.


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Re: Cute Hypercard busy cursor

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi David,

Apple wants you to use some kind of progress indicator, rather than a  
busy cursor or beach ball. There are also indeterminate progress  
indicators.


You can use the send command to use your own cursor, but I think you  
need to lock the cursor.


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On 1 jun 2008, at 12:27, David Bovill wrote:

Any way to get a modern looking beach ball rather than a spinning  
black an

white pie chart - much as I love it :)

My only thought is to create a "send message in ticks" loop that set  
the
cursor to a series of graphics - bit puzzled why this has not been  
updated -
or am I missing something? For instance what are the GUI  
recommendations
from Apple - the beachball is generally feared and loathed due to  
the fact
it means usually something has frozen - while the grey spinning  
"daisy"

while not a cursor is less worrying to the user.



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Is the revFont external unreliable?

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hello,

For a client, I created a standalone, which inlcudes the revFont  
external. Users of the software sometimes report that the features  
related to the revFont external don't work. The log files created by  
my scripts indicate that the external sometimes loads and sometimes  
doesn't load. Note that all users have an exact copy of the same  
standalone. This problem only occurs with Mac OS X.


Does anyone else have problems with the revFont external?

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launch URL to get an e-mail with BCC, Subject and Body (was revMail and BCC)

2008-06-02 Thread Andre.Bisseret

Hi,
(Since yesterday I did not receive any message from the list?? I hope  
this message will be received)

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I need to compose e-mail with addresses in BCC. revMail does not allow  
that.
Thanks to an answer from Sarah Reicheit I am now trying to use the  
mailto protocol in a launch URL command.
(launch URL is now recommanded in 2.9.0 instead of revgourl which  
still works but which is deprecated).


In order to fill in the three fields of an e-mail (BCC, Subject and  
Body), I was struggling  with (&s, &"&"&, ? etc.)

After hours of trials and errors I succeeded (partly) :

I have three variables :
tWho : contains the list of addresses to be put in the BCC field;
tSubject : contains the subject of the e-mail
tBody : contains the text of the e-mail

Then the following is working
 put "launch URL" && quote & "mailto:?BCC="; & tWho & "&" & "Subject="  
& tSubject & "&" & "Body=" & tBody & quote into tCommand

 do tCommand

BUT this is working only if tSubject and tBody do not include any  
special characters (including CR; so that tBpdy can't have more than  
one line).


Now my problem is with URLencode

I tried  to URLencode tSubject and tBody
Unfortunately, that does not works :
With one line only in tSubject as well as in tBody (and not special  
characters), if I URLencode them, I get an e-mail but with the  
URLencoded text !


For example I get : "Our+next+meeting+in+Paris" :-((

And furthermore, if tSubject include at leat one accented character  
then no e-mail shows up
if tBody includes at least one accented character, or several lines,  
then the Body of the e-mail is empty


So, the only case where I get a complete e-mail is when the texts of  
tSubject and tBody have only one line each, include not any special  
character and are not URLencoded.

Seems I am missing something about URLencode?

Any help would be very much appreciated

Best regards from Grenoble
André


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Re: Triple-click has changed in 2.9

2008-06-02 Thread Phil Davis

Hi Paul,

I concur.

In the transition from Rev 2.8.1 to 2.9.0 (Mac and Windows versions at 
least), there has been a change in double-click-text and 
triple-click-text behaviors.


The 2.8.1 behaviors are exactly the same as they are in the several 
other apps on each platform where I tested this. The 2.9.0 behaviors aren't.


In 2.9.0, it seems the trailing CR gets selected with the rest of the 
line upon triple-click, causing any replacement text to be inserted at 
the beginning of what was originally the line following the selected 
line. So the list linecount is shortened by one line.


I believe it's a bug!

Phil Davis



Paul Looney wrote:

Revvers,
I am having a problem with Rev 2.9 and OS X 10.4.11. If you can 
confirm this is also a problem on Windows and Linux, I'll post the bug.


Previously (through version 2.8.1) one triple-clicked to select an 
entire line of text.
In Rev. 2.9 a triple-click also selects the return character at the 
end of the clicked line.
So, if you triple-click to select a line of text between two other 
lines of text, then begin typing, the third line will have jumped to 
the end of the second.

This creates massive havoc with linked scrolling fields:
1. Triple-click to change a quantity
2. Attempt to edit the selection
3. Any quantities below have jumped up one line
4. Any descriptions, or prices below that line are now out of alignment.
5. Because there is code to keep the fields in sync, hitting Return in 
the problem field (to fix the problem) will just add a blank line to 
all of the linked fields - without fixing the problem.


In the word processors and spreadsheets I've used to date, 
triple-clicking does not select the final return. They work as Rev. 
used to work.


By the way, using a triple-click was a workaround for Rev's 
non-standard way of handling the double click:
Double-clicking in Rev works for selecting quantities or single word 
descriptions but on prices containing both integers and fractions 
(123.45) it only selects one side of the decimal. Making it more 
difficult than needed for a user to change a price. Triple-clicking 
was a way of selecting, and editing the entire price.


In word processors and spreadsheets I've used to date, double-clicking 
will select the entire number - if the period/decimal is the final 
character of text, the period will not be selected.


It would be nice if both double-click and triple-click worked in the 
standard way, but it is essential that triple click work right - as it 
did.


Is this a problem on Windows and/or Linux?
Was the problem created by the new Unicode extensions in Rev?
Is there some reason why it needs to work this way?

By the way, using the linked scrolling fields was a workaround to get 
right-aligned columns. A true table field would fix a host of 
problems!  ;-)


Sincerely,
Paul Looney



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Rev Forum down?

2008-06-02 Thread Klaus Major

Hi all,

looks like the forum server got some problems?
I get this:

phpBB : Critical Error

Could not connect to the database



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Re: [ANN] STS XML Library 2.1 Released

2008-06-02 Thread Stephen Barncard

Hey Ken,

 I bought the Standard Edition version of your XML library a couple 
of years ago. Do we get updates or is there an upgrade path?


thanks

sqb



Just FYI, I've released today a new version of the XML Library, version 2.1.
This version includes support for Linux, extended control over whitespace in
XML, and enhanced documentation, in additional to a few minor bug fixes.

For more information visit the STS XML Library page at (
http://www.sonsothunder.com/products/xmllib/xmllib.htm).

Thanks!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: OT: Doc Bugs (mine!) - A Lesson To Be Learned

2008-06-02 Thread Paul Looney

Ken,
Thanks for the ever-timely reminder.
I'd add one rule I consider critical:
Get a "typical" user to read the docs and run the software while you  
watch and take notes.

Paul Looney


On May 31, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Ken Ray wrote:


As you may have already seen, I released a new version of the STS XML
Library today. One of the main reasons for doing this is that the  
previous
documentation, which I had prized quite highly as being clear,  
thoughtful,

and informatory.

Someone who recently purchased the Library pointed out several doc  
bugs that
have actually been in there for a long time. Anyone who was trying  
to follow
the examples I gave would fail because of the errors, and this  
could have
easily caused people evaluating the Library to turn away and think  
it's too

difficult to use or they just can't "get it".

The new version has these issues resolved, and is much better at  
guiding new

users into using the Library.

Why am I bringing this up? So you all can avoid this in *your*  
application's
documentation (assuming it is to be printed or viewed as a PDF,  
like mine

is).

Here's a handful of simple rules that have come out of this (I'm  
sure there

are more, but these are the ones that "bit" me):

1) Test All Example Code

  If you include example code in your docs, make sure you  
*test* it
first, ESPECIALLY if you are copying and pasting code from another  
example
in the same docs, or copying it from a more comprehensive script  
that may

have dependencies on other functions/handlers/etc.
  This can especially become an issue when you are very  
comfortable
using common functions or handlers that are "always there" for you  
(because
of your framework, common libraries you use, etc.) that very well  
may not be
there in your user's hands. A good example of this is the q()  
function I use

that simple puts double quotes around a string:

function q pWhat
  return quote & pWhat & quote
end q

 I have used this function for many years, so it is second- 
nature to me
to put q() around strings I want quoted without thinking of the  
dependency
on the function. Hand out an example in docs that uses q() without  
providing

the function, and your users will get errors.

2) Check Page Numbers in TOCs
--
 If you include a table of contents in your app's docs, make  
sure that
before you ship that the TOC has been updated and points to the  
right pages.
Nothing is more frustrating than going to an incorrect page when  
you are

trying to learn a new app.

3) Watch Page Breaks
--
 I have seen too many sets of docs where code examples are  
split by a
page break at the inappropriate time, either leaving an "orphan" of  
a code
line on the next page, or worse, appearing to end properly, but  
there's
actually *more* code on the next page you didn't know about that's  
critical.

 It reminds me of the Raiders of the Lost Ark scene where Indy is
getting the amulet translated and the bad guys only have one part  
of it. The
translator tells Indy that the piece he has says to make a stick  
"ten Jamirs
high", and Indy's about to grab the amulet and leave when the  
translator
says "Wait, I am not finished!" and turns it over and reads "And  
add one
jamir to honor the Hebrew God whose Ark this is." Had there not  
been a break

between the two halves... ;-)

4) Read Your Own Docs As a New User Would

 After you *think* you are done with the docs, print them out  
and read
them as if you were a new user getting this application for the  
first time.
Imagine you know nothing about the program and that someone you  
respect has

just suggested to you that you take a look at it because "it's a great
program".  Look for all the little things that might drive you  
crazy as a
new user - inconsistent references, inconsistent use of text  
styles, indexes
that don't point to the right place, etc. I'm sure you'll find a  
number of

things you should change.

As I said, I know there's plenty more caveats to go through, but  
these four

are good ones, IMHO.

Just wanted to pass this along to anyone working on their own docs.  
You'll
never know how many people turned away from your product due to bad  
docs,
but if you know you have *good* docs, you can rest assured that no  
one will

turn away because of bad docs...

:-)

Ken Ray
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2008-06-02 Thread Peter Alcibiades

One big gap in Rev as a general purpose environment seems to be getting data
out in a structured form.  Or maybe this is just personal ignorance in how
to do it?  If so, corrections would be welcome.

You have lets say a tab separated file with data in it.  This seems to be
the approved way of storing a few thousand or tens of thousands of records
of data, and indeed it does work fine for storage.  Now you want to produce
reports out of it.  The recommended way (which I've done) seems to be one
field per item of information, lay out the card so that it looks halfway
decent, and then print card. 

However any report is quite capable of having 50 -100 cells, more, in it. 
Now, it may be that there is an easier way, which if so it would be great to
hear about, but addressing all those cells individually in a script so you
go through the file and extract and calculate what is wanted is immensely
tedious, inflexible, lengthy and error prone. Also, your reports may well be
multiple pages, in which case layout again becomes problematic.  The card
metaphor does fine when you are dealing with screen fulls of info, but when
you're dealing with page fulls, less so.  Maybe there is a good way to lay
out a field with totals and subtotals and percentages in it, and that does
not involve addressing all the cells individually?  Even then however, in
Linux, I would have to re-export it to a text file at the moment in order to
format it properly for printing it.  (Yes, a bug has been filed on this.) 

Consequently in this, as in formatting a field for printing, your average
dinosaur sighs and reaches for awk (animals of more recent period will
probably reach for Perl), while reflecting that this is for at least this
purpose an incomplete environment.  Not only does it take a fraction of the
effort and an even smaller fraction of script length to do it in awk, but
the thing actually looks like a proper report when you are through by
default - you don't have to mess around with setting the field parameters
and alignment of the boxes so that it all displays nicely.  But, you feel,
this is the sort of thing I should be able to just do natively, without
going out to shell in different ways potentially in three different
operating systems with all the complexity that introduces.

Could you do it in Quartam?  Probably, but not in Linux at the moment.  

I don't do this for a living, , and restrict my OS environment, so its an
irritation not a showstopper, and its balanced by other eases of use in
other areas.  If I did it  for a living, and on multiple platforms, it would
make me think long and hard before adopting Rev as the general tool of
choice. 

A second issue (again it may be ignorance of best practice) is the sense of
fragmentation.  As the apps you take on become more complex, the tendency is
for the code to spread itself across many objects on many cards.  Now, for
maintainability, I'd like to track all uses of a given variable name or
object name in every script.  Its not obvious how to do it.  What I do
(please, tell me a better way) is patiently copy and paste every script into
a real editor - Geany or Kate.  In fact, I now have started to write the
scripts in Geany or Kate, having first drawn up a list of objects and
variables.   Then at least they are addressable as a whole, and in Kate you
have the double or triple window into the text, and global search and
replace works.  Its a bit tedious replacing all the scripts when written,
and tracking what you've done, but its possible given pencil and paper and
check lists.  It works, but one keeps feeling, surely an environment which
is bound to lead to lots of bits of individual scripts should have some
built in way of dealing with this better?  Maybe it does, and I've
idiotically not noticed?  

Its probably called GLX2 - but again, not for my chosen OS.

If I were 20 and had learned programming starting with Rev, these two things
would probably be what would make me 'move on'.  
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Re: OT: Doc Bugs (mine!) - A Lesson To Be Learned

2008-06-02 Thread william humphrey
I wish everyone would pay attention to their docs especially with the idea
of not only new users but ones that are also trying something new to them
and that might really need some instruction. I loved the Altuit docs that
was a RunRev stack for their MySQL plug-in. It thought that was a very clear
presentation which could be an example for anyone to follow.
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Re: Is the revFont external unreliable?

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hmmm... thanks, I should have thought of that myself. I'll ask for the  
console logs, if I can find them. Most of the time, Rev doesn't create  
any logs by itself, on my machine, particularly not after a crash. I  
hope this is different for the standalone.


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On 2 jun 2008, at 17:26, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Jun 1, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

When the external fails to load have you had clients look at the  
console messages using the Console app? Messages in this log will  
sometimes tell you why a library failed to load.


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runrev.com website

2008-06-02 Thread Russell Martin
Anyone else notice that the runrev.com website is down today?


  
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mail test

2008-06-02 Thread Klaus Major

Hi all,

just a little test...


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Re: Is the revFont external unreliable?

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi,

At this point, I can't read the entire discussion yet, as e-mails are  
still travelling through cyber space, after the fire. The problem I'm  
having is just that the external doesn't always load. Sometimes it  
loads and sometimes it doesn't, while all users are using exactly the  
same universal standalone.


Does anyone else see this?

(Unicode problems can be worked around ;-) )

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On 2 jun 2008, at 17:12, viktoras didziulis wrote:

just noticed when using the uniencode/unidecode method (as was  
described in revdataFromQuery and umlauts etc. thread some time ago)  
to diplay data loaded from sqlite database in compiled application  
(Windows, Rev 2.9) some unicode Eastern European fonts turn into  
black sticks. In development environment everything works and fonts  
are rendered correctly. Fonts are included during compilation and  
revfont.dll is present in externals folder. What else is there to  
check for ? Or is this a failure of revFont external and it is time  
to visit the QC?


Best wishes
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Re: Is the revFont external unreliable?

2008-06-02 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jun 1, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

For a client, I created a standalone, which inlcudes the revFont  
external. Users of the software sometimes report that the features  
related to the revFont external don't work. The log files created by  
my scripts indicate that the external sometimes loads and sometimes  
doesn't load. Note that all users have an exact copy of the same  
standalone. This problem only occurs with Mac OS X.


When the external fails to load have you had clients look at the  
console messages using the Console app? Messages in this log will  
sometimes tell you why a library failed to load.


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Data center explosion

2008-06-02 Thread Kevin Miller
Hi all,

As you may have noticed, we had a fairly major outage of all online services
this weekend. The data center in which our multiple servers are hosted
suffered an explosion in the power room. The big loss was our DNS which has
now been restored. It will be a while before that propagates so access may
be sporadic. There isn't much we can do to speed it up. For those of you
interested, here is the Slashdot article:

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/01/1715247

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: CGI performance: using mod_cache

2008-06-02 Thread Andre Garzia
David,

I am assuming you have a way to tell if the database changed since you
last poked into it.

Make your cgi generate static pages, this way, and trigger the
regeneration of the pages to new data being inserted onto the
database, this is quick and easy, everytime you enter new data, the
page is generated again.

Most browsers will send some information on the http headers such as
"ETag" or "if-modified-since", meaning, they are checking to see if
the content changed since they last looked into it, you can answer
with a "304 not modified".

If you combine both approaches, you save both your CPU cycles (not
querying the database all the time) and bandwidth (not transfering
webpages that are cached and did not change).

Andre

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 1:29 AM, David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to speed up performance of a Rev based CGI by caching the results
> on the server - however I want to retain the CGI based dynamic behaviour.
> >From reading around it looks like this is possible, and I think this could
> be a generally useful hack for Rev based CGI's. AFAIK this is a fairly
> standard issue largely solved by other frameworks.
>
> Here is the scenario:
>
>   1. You have a dynamic cgi that fetches data from a database, munges these
>   up and serves up your page
>   2. The CGI is painfully slow
>   3. It is not possible to optimise the cgi
>   4. You decide to use caching
>   5. But when you update the database you want to the new data to be served
>   - you want to retain the dynamic behavior
>   6. Users need to be able to update the database - so you cant do this
>   with your own code - you need an automatic solution.
>
> I am not sure how to achieve this - but there seem to be the server based
> functionality needed with any new Apache installation. Here are some
> "ideas":
>
>   - The Rev CGI could set HTTP headers depending on if the data in the
>   database had changed (not sure this will work)
>   - The Rev CGI used to update the data (model)
>  - also changes the .htaccess directive
>  - somehow updates the cache
>   - Give up using Apache Cache and simply write the data out to a file -
>   creating and maintaining your own cache
>
> What you want is a robust file based "data_changed" flag - which instructs
> Apache to go fetch new data from the cgi.
>
> It seems that by using simply and carefully the built in Apache Cache
> ability - you should be able to use Revs flexible nature to create complex
> CGI's and not worry too much about optimising them or having to write extra
> code to store and maintain you own files. Any ideas?
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Changing Properties of All Fields in a Group

2008-06-02 Thread Steven Axtell
Is there a command that allows one to change a property setting for all of the 
fields in a group?  For example, I want to change the textColor property of all 
of the fields in a group to a given color.   Rather than have a line of code 
for each field, I imagine that there is a command that will allow all of the 
fields to be changed in one line of code.  I've tried to search for possible 
keywords but haven't identified anything yet.

Thanks,

Steve Axtell
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Re: Is the revFont external unreliable?

2008-06-02 Thread viktoras didziulis
just noticed when using the uniencode/unidecode method (as was described 
in revdataFromQuery and umlauts etc. thread some time ago) to diplay 
data loaded from sqlite database in compiled application (Windows, Rev 
2.9) some unicode Eastern European fonts turn into black sticks. In 
development environment everything works and fonts are rendered 
correctly. Fonts are included during compilation and revfont.dll is 
present in externals folder. What else is there to check for ? Or is 
this a failure of revFont external and it is time to visit the QC?


Best wishes
Viktoras

Ian Wood wrote:


On 20 May 2008, at 14:42, Trevor DeVore wrote:

You are probably dealing with encoding issues. Maybe the data is 
stored as UTF8? In that case you would have to do the following:


put uniencode(tVID, "UTF8") into tVID -- change to UTF16 which Rev 
undestands.
put unidecode(tVID) into tVID -- Now it is in a format specific to 
platform.


I store all unformatted text in SQLite as UTF8 and run it through 
similar functions.


Bingo! Presumably SQLite Browser and the SQLite command tool are both 
doing this step automatically.


Thanks Trevor!

Ian

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Re: Palette that reacts when changeing the top stack....

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi david,

I'd trap the resumeStack message, sometimes the (pre)openStack  
message, in a front script.


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On 1 jun 2008, at 01:45, David Bovill wrote:

Its been a while since I've done this... what's the best way to trap  
for
this? Do I need a front script (in case the stack blocks a message)  
- or can

I intercept and pass a Rev IDE specific message?


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6/2/2008 - Server Downtime Resolved

2008-06-02 Thread Heather Nagey

Dear List Members,

Some of you may have noticed a lack of posts over the weekend, and  
the disappearance of our website.


A catastrophic failure at our Texas-based ISP forced the closure of  
the runrev.com website and other services this weekend. The problem  
was resolved early Monday morning and all services are now operating  
normally.


During the outage, all email to support and various email lists was  
suspended. If you submitted a post to one of the discussion lists,  
please allow 6 to 12 hours for the information to appear, as most  
mail servers will re-attempt delivery. If you emailed support or  
someone else at runrev.com, you may wish to re-submit your email.


The outage began Saturday May 31 at 10:55pm GMT, when electrical  
equipment at our web host's datacenter shorted out, creating a fire  
and explosion that knocked out three walls in their electrical  
equipment room. Fire department officials required all power to the  
facility to be cut until safety was assured. No one was injured in  
the incident, and no data was damaged or lost.


As of Monday morning, some locations may be unable to reach the  
runrev.com domain as updated DNS information propogates throughout  
the Internet, a situation which will resolve itself in a few hours.


Runtime Revolution utilizes one of the largest and well-regarded  
hosts in the United States, and thousands of other websites were  
affected by this outage. We will be working with our web host to  
establish better redundancy and disaster-management plans in the future.


The good news is, we're back up and running, and normal service can  
now resume.


Warm Regards,


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Palette that reacts when changeing the top stack....

2008-06-02 Thread David Bovill
Its been a while since I've done this... what's the best way to trap for
this? Do I need a front script (in case the stack blocks a message) - or can
I intercept and pass a Rev IDE specific message?
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test

2008-06-02 Thread Ian Wood

Please ignore, I'm having some odd problems with mailing lists...

Ian
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New Software purchase set-up with Kagi

2008-06-02 Thread william humphrey
I just used a very elegant interface for a software purchase. It is
implemented in a program called "Yep" (which helps catalog your PDF files
and works with your scanner). Anyway when you hit the purchase button it
accesses Kagi in a window that comes down as a shade with the fields to fill
out for your Kagi purchase. Then you hit send and instantly it enters the
serial number in your program -- no waiting for an email and no cutting and
pasting of serial numbers. It was the easiest software purchase I've ever
done.
The only drawback I can see is that there is no explanation of how secure
this process is. Anyway it is well worth looking into for all you developers
out there to include with your demo software.
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Is the revFont external unreliable?

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hello,

For a client, I created a standalone, which inlcudes the revFont  
external. Users of the software sometimes report that the features  
related to the revFont external don't work. The log files created by  
my scripts indicate that the external sometimes loads and sometimes  
doesn't load. Note that all users have an exact copy of the same  
standalone. This problem only occurs with Mac OS X.


Does anyone else have problems with the revFont external?

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Cute Hypercard busy cursor

2008-06-02 Thread David Bovill
Any way to get a modern looking beach ball rather than a spinning black an
white pie chart - much as I love it :)

My only thought is to create a "send message in ticks" loop that set the
cursor to a series of graphics - bit puzzled why this has not been updated -
or am I missing something? For instance what are the GUI recommendations
from Apple - the beachball is generally feared and loathed due to the fact
it means usually something has frozen - while the grey spinning "daisy"
while not a cursor is less worrying to the user.
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