Re: OT: HP Lovecraft fonts

[Richard Gaskin]

Mark Wieder wrote:

For no apparent reason, I am posting here the news that the folks at
the Cthulhu Lives website have made some very nice fonts available for
free download based on HP Lovecraft's writing styles. Of the free
fonts, I find the BlackLetter fonts a bit over the top, but OldStyle
and Telegram are a hoot.

"Typographical fashions change, and since the digital age overtook
typesetting and graphic design, many of the fonts common in the time
of Lovecraft have fallen into disuse. We've revived many of them from
vintage sources..."

http://www.cthulhulives.org/toybox/PROPDOCS/PropFonts.html


Mark, the breadth of your interests continues to amaze me.

Your timing is uncanny:  just last night I pulled "The Dream-Quest of 
Unknown Kadath" down from my shelf for a re-read.  :)


I'm going to go download these fonts ASAP. Thanks!

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engine crash on open stack (Larry Forsgren)

[Larry Forsgren]

Hi Bernard

Thank for taking interest in this.
I have send you the stack.

Regards
Larry
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OT: HP Lovecraft fonts

[Mark Wieder]

All-

For no apparent reason, I am posting here the news that the folks at
the Cthulhu Lives website have made some very nice fonts available for
free download based on HP Lovecraft's writing styles. Of the free
fonts, I find the BlackLetter fonts a bit over the top, but OldStyle
and Telegram are a hoot.

"Typographical fashions change, and since the digital age overtook
typesetting and graphic design, many of the fonts common in the time
of Lovecraft have fallen into disuse. We've revived many of them from
vintage sources..."

http://www.cthulhulives.org/toybox/PROPDOCS/PropFonts.html

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Re: Mirye Runtime Revolution Moving to Monthy Issue Releases; First Release 808

[Richard Gaskin]

Why is Meshbox called "Meshbox" and not "Mirye Meshbox"?

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[ANN] 3 Small updates

[Björnke von Gierke]

Hi guys

I just made 3 small updates:

1. The homepage at http://www.bjoernke.com/runrev/ has been  
overhauled. Among the changes is a move of the chatrev page to a  
subpage of the mentioned runrev part of my site.


2. ChatRev 1.3b3 has been released. This contains some small changes,  
among them is Metacard compatibility, and getting rid of the annoying  
logout popup.
ChatRev is a Chat completely written in Rev (the server too). During  
European daytime there's always some people there to ask coding  
questions or preferable socialise with.


3. BvG Docu 1.2 has been released. This contains some smallish  
changes, mostly considering rendering errors.
BvG Docu is a replacement for the build in Rev Dictionary GUI. The  
main advantages are better speed and a more concise filtering of the  
searched terms.


Have fun
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RE: Mirye Runtime Revolution Moving to Monthy Issue Releases; First Release 808

[Lynn Fredricks]

> OK, then perhaps a different explanation might be of use, 
> since I am not one of your customers, and I still don't get it.

Mirye sells Revolution too, but we are putting out a kind of update every
month, and that includes additional benefits for customers. We don't change
the software itself, but we can add stuff to the collective product. Also,
there will be news and articles. It's a sort of magazine style release that
provides additional benefits over a shorter amount of time.

Most dev tool vendors follow a standard release method of releasing a X.0
major release, then doing a series of minor releases over X amount of time.
That X amount of time isnt always uniform, although at least one other
vendor does lock step their releases that way. So you have 2.8, 2.8.1,
2.8.2, 2.9, etc.

Our approach is similar to how to some digital media tool vendors work. The
core product is released and updated, but there are
updates/additions/improvements of other things which are not core to the
product. This has the advantage of making a time based update plan more
valuable, because you can expect useful items each month.

Compare two release methods of "subscriptions" you are likely already
familiar with: antivirus software and your favorite word processor.

Your word processor may have come with X amount of time you'll get free
updates. Or, you may be entitled to all minor updates for a specific
version. Or both. For example, if you bought Word 2003 shortly before Word
2007 came out, you may have gotten a free upgrade. But if you bought Word
2003 a year ago, you got X number of updates during the lifetime of Word
2003.

Now look at anti-virus software. Its probably updated near to a weekly
schedule (esp if you are running a windows box!), so you can get a
meaningful "value" even a few times a week during the 1 year subscription
period.

When you get Revolution with no early update, you get 3 months of updates.
How many updates is that? It could be none, or it could be three. That's
either lucky or unlucky depending on how you look at it. Our new release
method makes sure you get something useful for each month of updates you
have coming, even if the core software itself is updated irregularly, often
or not at all. It also gives us a way to engage customers more by way of
feedback on whats provided, and simply just asking, what else they'd find
useful for their projects - this doesn't remove the value of formal surveys
either of course.

If Revolution wasn't a great product at integrating such a variety of
sources (data, images, video, audio, etc) and more like Visual Basic, this
wouldn't work all that well. Fortunately Revolution is very appealing to
rich media developers and designers (as well as more traditional application
programmers) and this is a good approach.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
Mirye Software Publishing
http://www.mirye.com

Mirye Community NING
http://miryesoftware.ning.com 

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Re: "the effective visibility"

[Chipp Walters]

Well, it doesn't solve my problem at this time. I suppose I'll have to
write a parent recursive routine "isEffectiveVisibile" to walk through
all the groups.

Ken Ray pointed out sharply this isn't the case with 'disabled.' When
you disable a group, it disables all the controls within the group.

If anyone already has an "isEffectiveVisible" function, let me know.

best, Chipp
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Re: Mirye Runtime Revolution Moving to Monthy Issue Releases; First Release 808

[Mikey]

OK, then perhaps a different explanation might be of use, since I am not one
of your customers, and I still don't get it.
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Re: "the effective visibility"

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Chipp,

I believe this has been reported as a bug to QCC.

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Op 8-aug-2008, om 22:29 heeft Chipp Walters het volgende geschreven:


Trying to figure out how to find "the effective visibility" property
of a control.

Here's why:

Say you have 2 buttons: "red" and "blue" in a group.

If you put in msg:

put the vis of btn "red"

it will return "true"

If you HIDE the group with the 2 buttons then

put the vis of btn "red"

it still returns "true" even though the button is not visible. It is
of course visible w/regard to the group, just not on the card. How can
i figure out whether the button is ACTUALLY visible? Don't assume the
button is even in a group.




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RE: Mirye Runtime Revolution Moving to Monthy Issue Releases; First Release 808

[Lynn Fredricks]

> Um, I don't get it.  What is Mirye and how does this affect me?

If you are one of our customers, it affects you. If not, it may be of
interest to you anyway if you are interested in how we are getting the word
out about Revolution.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
Mirye Software Publishing
http://www.mirye.com

Mirye Community NING
http://miryesoftware.ning.com 

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"the effective visibility"

[Chipp Walters]

Trying to figure out how to find "the effective visibility" property
of a control.

Here's why:

Say you have 2 buttons: "red" and "blue" in a group.

If you put in msg:

put the vis of btn "red"

it will return "true"

If you HIDE the group with the 2 buttons then

put the vis of btn "red"

it still returns "true" even though the button is not visible. It is
of course visible w/regard to the group, just not on the card. How can
i figure out whether the button is ACTUALLY visible? Don't assume the
button is even in a group.
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OT: 3D Modelling Software Caligari Truespace now for free

[runrev260805]

Hi,

maybe this is of some interest for some of you.

After  acquiring 3D specialist Caligari, Microsoft is giving away the software 
Caligari Truespace 7.6  for free. Before that, the software was sold for US$600 
to customers. 

Only a registration is required. After registration you can download the full 
version of Truespace 7.6 Windows, a manual and also video tutorials (which were 
sold for US$79 before).

Read more here

http://blogs.msdn.com/pblog/archive/2008/07/24/more-free-software-from-microsoft-caligari-truespace-7-6.aspx


or go here to register and download

http://cart1.caligari.com/web/Truespacemainreg.aspx


Regards,

Matthias


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Re: Mirye Runtime Revolution Moving to Monthy Issue Releases; First Release 808

[Mikey]

Um, I don't get it.  What is Mirye and how does this affect me?
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Mirye Runtime Revolution Moving to Monthy Issue Releases; First Release 808

[Lynn Fredricks]

Hello all,

I am announcing this here and now so we can avoid the "What the heck is up
with Mirye!?" questions later :-) There are many, many long term Revolution
users and developers here who are very interested in the health of
Revolution as a product in the industry.

Also, its 08/08/2008, the lucky day in China for kicking off the Olympics -
perfect for our 808 release.

Mirye Software Publishing publishes Runtime Revolution in several markets,
including North America and Japan. We aren't Runtime of course, but our
goals are in cooperation with Runtime to bring Revolution to new customer
groups and expand Revolution availability so its possible for more customers
to get it.

One large corporate customer, for example, only sources product purchases
through specific corporate/government authorized partners, and we'd
otherwise not have them using Revolution.

We've made some great strides in penetrating the digital production market -
getting in the front door with Revolution Media and then customers loving it
so much they upgrade later. Customers in this market space tend to use more
types of tools and have more complex pipelines for developing projects.

To make Revolution even more attractive to this market, and not being able
to touch the source code of Revolution, we are modifying how we release
Revolution. Mirye Runtime Revolution therefore has a monthly, magazine-like
"issue" that includes not only the software itself, but also:

1. Long Term Benefits. Additional add-on functionality that all customers
receive
2. Short Term Benefits. Add-ons that you must download during the specific
time period during which it is released
3. News, Articles and Other Information. Just like it says - information
that is useful and interesting to our customers, including recent
activities. Lightweight this month, but watch for expanded articles in
months to come.

To get the "issue" benefits, you have to be in good standing with us - this
means being qualified for upgrades of the Mirye release. This method of
release comes after many years of selling tools in the digital production
market and how product releases are managed in that market space.

"Release 0808: What to Do With Your Summer" is our first release using this
method. You can read about this release here on the Mirye site at
http://www.mirye.com and the benefits it includes. Even if you've already
upgraded or renewed through Runtime, stop by and read the news.

Have a great weekend!

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
Mirye Software Publishing
http://www.mirye.com

Mirye Community NING
http://miryesoftware.ning.com 

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Re: figuring out whether a given font has Unicode Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics glyphs

[Devin Asay]

On Aug 8, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Devin Asay wrote:


   set the useunicode to true
   set the unicodetext of fld "unicode_tester" to numtochar(5169)
   put the textFont of char 1 of fld "unicode_tester" into tFont1
   replace item 1 of tFont1 with pChosen
   set the unicodeText of char 1 of fld "unicode_tester" to tFont1




That should be
   set the textFont of char 1 of fld "unicode_tester" to tFont1
   
Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: figuring out whether a given font has Unicode Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics glyphs

[Devin Asay]

On Aug 7, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Randolph Valentine wrote:

Hi, all. I have a question regarding how to reliably determine that  
a font
is a Unicode font which has Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics (CAS)  
glyphs. Now
evidently because I'm working with Canadian Aborginal Syllabics,  
even when I

use a clearly Unicode font having these glyphs, and ask for the
fontlanguage, it gives me ASCI. So I thought would write a script  
that 1.
selects a font, 2. sets a field to that font, 3. puts a CAS  
character e.g.

chartonum(5169) into the field, and if the font isn't Unicode, then no
character should show up. My little script (within an option menu that
provides the user with all of the fonts from fontnames) looks like  
this:


on menuPick pChosen
   set the textfont of fld "unicode_tester" to pChosen
   set the useunicode to true
   set the unicodetext of fld "unicode_tester" to numtochar(5169)
end menuPick

The problem is that even when I select a non-unicode font, I am still
getting the proper Syllabic character showing up for some reason.  
Anyone
know why, and what I could do to get this to work? Basically, I want  
my

users to be able to tell if a font they pick is a unicode font having
Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics. Thank you!


Hi Rand,

Unfortunately, Unicode in Rev doesn't give you much control over the  
font the characters are displayed in. When you request a unicode  
character, the OS takes over and finds a suitable font (if any) to  
display it in. You really have little control over it. It is a known  
issue. See .


There is a possible workaround. Try something like this (not tested,  
but I've used this technique lots):


on menuPick pChosen
   set the useunicode to true
   set the unicodetext of fld "unicode_tester" to numtochar(5169)
   put the textFont of char 1 of fld "unicode_tester" into tFont1
   get the htmlText of fld "unicode_tester"
   replace tFont1 with pChosen in it
   set the htmlText of fld "unicode_tester" to it
end menuPick

If you examine the htmlText of a field with unicode text in it, you'll  
see the  tags with face= elements that define the font for  
unicode characters. The characters themselves are HTML unicode  
entities. I've had good success changing fonts by just replacing the  
face= element in font tags like this.


Another thing that might work is:

   set the useunicode to true
   set the unicodetext of fld "unicode_tester" to numtochar(5169)
   put the textFont of char 1 of fld "unicode_tester" into tFont1
   replace item 1 of tFont1 with pChosen
   set the unicodeText of char 1 of fld "unicode_tester" to tFont1

I'll be interested in hearing if this works for you.

Regards,

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

[Richard Gaskin]

Tiemo wrote:

this topic is already discussed a few times, but I didn't found any
"satisfying" answers in the archives.


What would be "satisfying"?

You won't find much in the way of actual code published here for this, 
since it would make it too easy for crackers to make keygens.


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AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Björnke,
your three are just the points, I am calculating too. Thats why I used up to
now the ProtectCD lock, which is without any implementation from my side,
pretty errorless (less than 0,5% support cases), not to be copied for the
standard user and in my case no disturbing for having the CD inserted,
because it runs off the CD anyway. (alternatively could the CD only being
inserted once a month or so)
Thanks for your thoughts
Tiemo

> 
> > I'm almost certain SecuROM is cross-platform.
> 
> The problem with most "Security" systems you can buy is that they
> often cause instabilities, slowdowns and malfunctions on your
> customers pc's, and you'll be unable to rectify them. As these systems
> are a prime target for hackers, their main selling point about being
> better against real hacking attempts are invalid.
> 
> For Securing your investment, there's only three factors to evaluate:
> 
> 1. How will regular customers be handicapped or disturbed by these
> measures
> 2. How much time (respectively money) do I need to implement and
> support the security solution
> 3. How easy will casual copying be
> 
> Unfortunately many developers still think in terms of prohibiting
> hacking, which is similar academic as trying to stop spam from
> reaching your openly shown e-mail address.
> 
> As for a recommendation, You could calculate a unique identifier,
> which is sent to you via the web once. Alternatively you can check for
> a certain file being on the CD. If you can make unique files onto
> them, then you could connect a unique number with the CD, similar to a
> dongle. But most customers only have one, maximal two CD or DVD
> drives, so they'll be greatly dissatisfied with any solution that
> constantly needs a CD inserted (Factor nr. 1).
> 
> Have Fun
> Björnke
> 

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Re: Still can not get revBrowser to load in standalone

[Thomas McGrath III]

Terry,

I played with loading it myself but was in the middle of  
troubleshooting and may not have been doing it right. I will attempt  
doing it manually and see if there is a difference.


Thanks

Tom McGrath

On Aug 7, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Terry Judd wrote:


Have you tried loading the external 'dynamically'? I used this method
(courtesy of Trevor DeVore) with the old altBrowser external and  
stuck with

it when it morphed into revBrowser.

Something like...

on loadAppExternals
 if pExternals <> empty then
   if there is not a stack "myExternals" then
 reset templateStack
 set destroyWindow of templateStack to true
 set destroyStack of templateStack to true
 set visible of templateStack to false
 set externals of templateStack to pExternals
 create stack "myExternals"
 reset templateStack
   end if
   go stack "myExternals"
   start using stack "myExternals"
 end if
end loadAppExternals

...where pExternals is a return delimited list of the paths to the  
externals

you want to load.

BTW there's still a major bug (5125) with revBrowser on Windows  
(although
this remains unconfirmed after more than 12 months), which is that  
form data

is not passed in the browserBeforeNavigate callback. So if you want to
handle form data in Rev then you're out of luck!

Terry...


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Re: Still can not get revBrowser to load in standalone

[Thomas McGrath III]

OK, Mark,

I will try these today to see if I can track this down. I am still  
thinking that this is a Paths issue.


What is the best way to ensure the path to the external, once built,  
on both Mac and Windows? From a DVD?


Thanks again,

Tom McGrath

On Aug 7, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hi Tom,

Try making the same stack without custom shape. I had a case on  
Windows, where the custom shape prevented the browser object from  
being rendered.


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AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Terry,
 I will have a look for SecuROM, probably I have to find a new "burning
factory" (how do you call this in English?) how works with SecuROM

Thanks for the hint
Tiemo

> 
> I'm almost certain SecuROM is cross-platform. We delivered a couple of
> educational products using it (the clients, for reasons that are beyond
> me,
> insisted on encryption despite a relatively small market for the
> software).
> It seems to be fairly expensive to setup but the unit price isn't too bad
> if
> you're doing reasonable batch sizes.
> 
> >From memory there is a software tool that lets you do the encryption
> stuff
> yourself on the Windows side of things but you have to send off your Mac
> executable to get it 'fixed' by their guys. It must work with Rev apps
> because we used it on a big medical imaging project I did a while back and
> I
> haven't heard of any complaints from end users.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Terry...
> 

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AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Mark,

> 
> For a real hacker, not the quantity but the challenge counts.
> 
 ;)
>
> I created a few installers for clients of mine, some with limited copy
> protection. You might use the CD serial number incombination with the
> MAC address of a network device. You can put a few PHP or Perl scripts
> on a server to create and retrieve a serial number when the software
> is installed for the first time. This isn't too difficult a thing to do.
> 

Hmm I am not used to PHP, so even this small solution would be too much
effort for me, as Björnke said in 2.
 


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Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

[Björnke von Gierke]

On 8 Aug 2008, at 11:50, Terry Judd wrote:


I'm almost certain SecuROM is cross-platform.


The problem with most "Security" systems you can buy is that they  
often cause instabilities, slowdowns and malfunctions on your  
customers pc's, and you'll be unable to rectify them. As these systems  
are a prime target for hackers, their main selling point about being  
better against real hacking attempts are invalid.


For Securing your investment, there's only three factors to evaluate:

1. How will regular customers be handicapped or disturbed by these  
measures
2. How much time (respectively money) do I need to implement and  
support the security solution

3. How easy will casual copying be

Unfortunately many developers still think in terms of prohibiting  
hacking, which is similar academic as trying to stop spam from  
reaching your openly shown e-mail address.


As for a recommendation, You could calculate a unique identifier,  
which is sent to you via the web once. Alternatively you can check for  
a certain file being on the CD. If you can make unique files onto  
them, then you could connect a unique number with the CD, similar to a  
dongle. But most customers only have one, maximal two CD or DVD  
drives, so they'll be greatly dissatisfied with any solution that  
constantly needs a CD inserted (Factor nr. 1).


Have Fun
Björnke


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Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

[Terry Judd]

I'm almost certain SecuROM is cross-platform. We delivered a couple of
educational products using it (the clients, for reasons that are beyond me,
insisted on encryption despite a relatively small market for the software).
It seems to be fairly expensive to setup but the unit price isn't too bad if
you're doing reasonable batch sizes.

>From memory there is a software tool that lets you do the encryption stuff
yourself on the Windows side of things but you have to send off your Mac
executable to get it 'fixed' by their guys. It must work with Rev apps
because we used it on a big medical imaging project I did a while back and I
haven't heard of any complaints from end users.

HTH,

Terry...


On 8/8/08 6:43 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> this topic is already discussed a few times, but I didn't found any
> "satisfying" answers in the archives.
> 
> I am looking for a copy protection / or licensing system with a minimum on
> handling / trouble for me which gives a good protection for the average
> user. No protection against cracks is required, because the quantity of my
> publication is too low to be in interest for hackers. I want to build a
> hybrid CD for Mac and Win. Up to now I used ProtectDisc (a german system)
> which is implemented in my runtime exe, so that my app can be run only with
> the original CD (which is ok, because my apps are heavy video apps, where
> the videos always stay on CD. This is a good solution for me, because I
> don't have any maintenance as supplying a licensing server with serial and
> all this activation stuff. BUT this technique is only available for Win ( as
> my CD factory tells me, because the Mac community is "so small"). So that
> the Mac part of my hybrid CD is unsecured and can be copied.
> 
> I was already thinking of programming a kind of a "minimum licensing"
> function for the Mac part, as asking any hardware information from the
> system, generating a licence key for this number, which I had to pass to the
> customer. But this would just be a very small obstacle, because any user
> could ask for the licence key, because the users can buy my product in
> standard bookshops as amazon, where I don't have any control, if they bought
> a official copy or if they copied it from a friend.
> 
> What are your experiences, which systems do you use for protection / easy
> handling of licensing? Is there at all any copy protection which works for
> both sides of hybrid CDs?
> 
> Thanks for sharing your experiences
> 
> Tiemo
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Re: ANN: libRevCurl

[Mark Smith]

Andre, I'm using s3, sdb, sqs, and ec2 - and I'm glad they didn't use  
25 letter names :)


I have libraries for each of them - getting fairly complete now,  
though I'm still tweaking and adding to them. No docs at all as yet,  
but if you or anyone else wants to see them, just mail me off-list  
and I'll send them. They all depend on libRevCurl.


Best,

Mark

On 8 Aug 2008, at 07:52, Andre Garzia wrote:


Mark,

very nice! I did one myself too... when building CGIs, cURL is the
best thing to fetch data since getting libURL and sockets to work on
CGI can be tricky.

As for your AWS work, have you tried Amazon SimpleDB?

Cheers
andre

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Mark Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've made a library that wraps around the curl command line tool.  
It exposes
a lot of settings that give a lot of control, and allows http GET,  
POST,

PUT, DELETE, HEAD, and TRACE.
It also allows uploading from a file on disk using either POST or  
PUT.


It only really covers HTTP, but I hope to add FTP and others in later
versions.

I've been using it in a project I'm working on that makes heavy  
use of the

Amazon Web Services, so that's where it's had the most testing.
I've included a short intro pdf, and a small dictionary that  
covers the most

often used (by me) handlers which are the also the most tested.

There's a bunch of stuff in there that I haven't yet documented,  
(and quite
a bit, like proxies, that I haven't tested!) for those who want to  
delve

into the innards of it.

It allows lots of non-blocking behaviour and multiple simultaneous  
requests

to the same server (necessary for some of the amazon stuff).

I've versioned it at 1.0 beta, and any and all comments,  
suggestions etc,

welcome.

http://futsoft.futilism.com/revolutionstuff.html

Best.
Mark Smith


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Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Tiemo,

For a real hacker, not the quantity but the challenge counts.

I created a few installers for clients of mine, some with limited copy  
protection. You might use the CD serial number incombination with the  
MAC address of a network device. You can put a few PHP or Perl scripts  
on a server to create and retrieve a serial number when the software  
is installed for the first time. This isn't too difficult a thing to do.


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On 8 aug 2008, at 10:43, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:


Hello,

this topic is already discussed a few times, but I didn't found any
"satisfying" answers in the archives.

I am looking for a copy protection / or licensing system with a  
minimum on
handling / trouble for me which gives a good protection for the  
average
user. No protection against cracks is required, because the quantity  
of my
publication is too low to be in interest for hackers. I want to  
build a
hybrid CD for Mac and Win. Up to now I used ProtectDisc (a german  
system)
which is implemented in my runtime exe, so that my app can be run  
only with
the original CD (which is ok, because my apps are heavy video apps,  
where
the videos always stay on CD. This is a good solution for me,  
because I
don't have any maintenance as supplying a licensing server with  
serial and
all this activation stuff. BUT this technique is only available for  
Win ( as
my CD factory tells me, because the Mac community is "so small"). So  
that

the Mac part of my hybrid CD is unsecured and can be copied.

I was already thinking of programming a kind of a "minimum licensing"
function for the Mac part, as asking any hardware information from the
system, generating a licence key for this number, which I had to  
pass to the
customer. But this would just be a very small obstacle, because any  
user

could ask for the licence key, because the users can buy my product in
standard bookshops as amazon, where I don't have any control, if  
they bought

a official copy or if they copied it from a friend.

What are your experiences, which systems do you use for protection /  
easy
handling of licensing? Is there at all any copy protection which  
works for

both sides of hybrid CDs?

Thanks for sharing your experiences

Tiemo


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Creating XML from outlines

[David Bovill]

Does anyone have a function to turn an outline (tab indented indexes) into
an XML structure? The functions I have don't quite cut it.
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OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello,

this topic is already discussed a few times, but I didn't found any
"satisfying" answers in the archives.

I am looking for a copy protection / or licensing system with a minimum on
handling / trouble for me which gives a good protection for the average
user. No protection against cracks is required, because the quantity of my
publication is too low to be in interest for hackers. I want to build a
hybrid CD for Mac and Win. Up to now I used ProtectDisc (a german system)
which is implemented in my runtime exe, so that my app can be run only with
the original CD (which is ok, because my apps are heavy video apps, where
the videos always stay on CD. This is a good solution for me, because I
don't have any maintenance as supplying a licensing server with serial and
all this activation stuff. BUT this technique is only available for Win ( as
my CD factory tells me, because the Mac community is "so small"). So that
the Mac part of my hybrid CD is unsecured and can be copied.

I was already thinking of programming a kind of a "minimum licensing"
function for the Mac part, as asking any hardware information from the
system, generating a licence key for this number, which I had to pass to the
customer. But this would just be a very small obstacle, because any user
could ask for the licence key, because the users can buy my product in
standard bookshops as amazon, where I don't have any control, if they bought
a official copy or if they copied it from a friend.

What are your experiences, which systems do you use for protection / easy
handling of licensing? Is there at all any copy protection which works for
both sides of hybrid CDs?

Thanks for sharing your experiences

Tiemo

 

 

 

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Re: Are crash reports useful

[Bernard Devlin]

Thanks Jacqueline,

I managed to find the logs.  This is their location on Vista:

C:\Users\\appdata\Roaming\Runtime Revolution\Revolution
Studio\Crash Logs

I'll enter a bugzilla report and hopefully something useful can be gleaned
from them.

Bernard


Although it says "XP" I believe the reports also work on Vista. The location
> of the log on Vista should be in /AppData. Create a bug report in
> the QCC and paste the log info into it. That will help the team track down
> the cause. Please do submit a bug report, as crashes get top priority. Set
> the status of your report as "critical".
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