script not working when the stack is password protected, why?
Hello I have a stack for putting images together on a virtual board and make a new image from it. The following button script adds a image to the actual group kopfleiste which contains all images and texts etc. which then will be exported to a jpg file. This script does not work when the stack is password protected, but works when this is not the case. What line is the reason for this? on mouseUp put the number of images of group kopfleiste into bildanzahl copy image i1 of group vorlage of card 2 to group kopfleiste set the loc of it to the loc of group kopfleiste put (i the seconds) into bildname set the name of it to bildname put the layer of the group kopfleiste into kopfleistenlayer set the relayerGroupedControls to true set the layer of image bildname to (kopfleistenlayer + bildanzahl+1) set the relayerGroupedControls to false end mouseUp Regards, Franz Mit freundlichen Grüßen Franz Böhmisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.animabit.de GF Animabit Multimedia Software GmbH Am Sonnenhang 22 D-94136 Thyrnau Tel +49 (0)8501-8538 Fax +49 (0)8501-8537 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Original iMac ad influences
Hiya, I hope you get better! (I usually get those from nodding off at the keyboard, I should really get an LCD to replace the CRT, I heard they're much softer). On the topic you've raised: I've often wondered how far back the design of the product begins prior to it making a social impact - In this sense, where the iMac was concerned: Is the design driven by the company or the designer? Steve Jobs hired Jonathan Ive: Did his design influence Steve Jobs? Did Steve Jobs want Jonathan Ive's designs? Would there have been a 'floral' iMac without them? Possibly, maybe not when they did, but it was bound to happen (whether from Apple or another company). Some may have even had similar designs prior to Apple, but afraid, weary of releasing something that different? Oh, rant. Friday. Gotta remind myself not to do that again. Cheers, Luis. On 22 Aug 2008, at 04:47, Judy Perry wrote: Jim, OMG, touy won't believe this but while doing my own search I JUST PULLED UP THAT EXACT SAME WEBPAGE!!! (sorry for yelling; just for emphasis). Problem is, this is a course on the *co9mputer* uipact on society, not the shaver's/speakers/whatever's impact on society. Also -- I apologize for spelling problems; I have a concussion and it makes my finger s not work right. in additiojn to making ,u braion work even less well ;-) and it's intermittent, which means I can talk/type for a little bit okay and then it's all crappier than normal for no obvious reason. Judy On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Jim Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 22, 2008, at 5:19 AM, Judy Perry wrote: I apologize for bothering you with this, but does anyone remember *other* products and/or ad campaigns that were inspired by the oriiginal colored iMac line and ads? Going back further, how much of Apple's work was influenced by Braun? WHo was the force? http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to- apples-future http://www.errortype.com/blog/?p=99 sims ClipaSearch Pro http://www.ClipaTools.com Across Platforms - Code and Culture http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: script not working when the stack is password protected, why?
Hi, the problem is in the line copy image i1 of group vorlage of card 2 to group kopfleiste It tries to cut an image of card 2 before copiing it to card 1. = can't cut object (stack is password protected) This is not allowed when the stack is password protected (in older versions I remember I could get image 1 of card 1 of this stack even when password protected - I am glad about this improvement - if I remember correctly). I try the following solution: on openCard if the environment development then set the passKey of this stack to xyz end if end openCard It seems to be secure ... in the standalone this allows the script to work, but not in the IDE. Does this be secure? My decompile stack, which I got from the net for decompiling a 2.2 runrev -standalone exe to a 2.2 runrev file and which worked till 2.7 does not work anymore. Any newer version of the decompile script on the market ;-) Greetings, Franz Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter Subject: script not working when the stack is password protected, why? (22-Aug-2008 10:46) From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I have a stack for putting images together on a virtual board and make a new image from it. The following button script adds a image to the actual group kopfleiste which contains all images and texts etc. which then will be exported to a jpg file. This script does not work when the stack is password protected, but works when this is not the case. What line is the reason for this? on mouseUp put the number of images of group kopfleiste into bildanzahl copy image i1 of group vorlage of card 2 to group kopfleiste set the loc of it to the loc of group kopfleiste put (i the seconds) into bildname set the name of it to bildname put the layer of the group kopfleiste into kopfleistenlayer set the relayerGroupedControls to true set the layer of image bildname to (kopfleistenlayer + bildanzahl+1) set the relayerGroupedControls to false end mouseUp Regards, Franz Mit freundlichen Grüßen Franz Böhmisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.animabit.de GF Animabit Multimedia Software GmbH Am Sonnenhang 22 D-94136 Thyrnau Tel +49 (0)8501-8538 Fax +49 (0)8501-8537 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-2: script not working when the stack is password protected, why?
Hello, just got the info on chatrev that this approach on openCard if the environment development then set the passKey of this stack to xyz end if end openCard is not secure for a rev file because someone could open the rev file, make another substack with a script (go stack protectedstack (now the password is passed); go stack mynewsubstack; put script of stack protectedstack ... voila) I could not even think so evil ;-) I try: on anyhandler set the passKey of this stack to xyz do and let the script cut and work from the stack... set the passKey of this stack to empty end anyhandler ... Greetings, Franz ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Original iMac ad influences
On 22 Aug 2008, at 07:30, Judy Perry wrote: if anyone has any names that would be really cool, too, as the poiknt is not to say A[pple rules because they made colored computers buty rather to show students in a vary obvious, visual way, that computers DO have some sort of impact in a non-technological way on people, their social norms (different unit -- think of the need for many of us to 'take calls in the stall' if you khow what I mean) and their non-computer tools. of course there where dozens of see trough peripherals suddenly appearing, all sporting see trough cables. most peripherals reverted back to silver, but there's still lots of see trough cables on various products. (of course there's been see trough stuff before the imac, but there's always invention and then there's making the market buy billions of pieces of said invention (if you can call fancy colorisation an invention)). Of course that's not really a computerization of real life, as i have never seen anything non- computerish using see trough cables. When I think of how computers change real life, I always think on how UI's are degrading in usability and intuitivity. A remote used to have a button for everything, yet never featured more then 30 buttons. These days there's hardly a remote to be found with less then 50 buttons, and they always are able to invoke some sort of software menu (or even several different ones) on the tv to make a gazillion of settings. Both the remotes and the software menus normally are hard to use and incompatible with any other usage pattern, just like computers. Björnke -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com/runrev/chatrev.php Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/stacks/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: script not working when the stack is password protected, why?
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, just got the info on chatrev that this approach on openCard if the environment development then set the passKey of this stack to xyz end if end openCard is not secure for a rev file because someone could open the rev file, make another substack with a script (go stack protectedstack (now the password is passed); go stack mynewsubstack; put script of stack protectedstack ... voila) I could not even think so evil ;-) I try: on anyhandler set the passKey of this stack to xyz do and let the script cut and work from the stack... set the passKey of this stack to empty end anyhandler ... Greetings, Franz Hi Franz, This is indeed not secure - your best bet is to move the handler into a separate password-protected library stack and make your 'work' stack a more-or-less empty shell where you only have the controls. At that point, frontScripts come in handy to intercept mouseUps and other events that need to call into the library stack. It's a pain, but it's your best shot. Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RTFtext, printing and tabStops
--- Shari Coxford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Figured out the wonkiness. It was related to tabStops. They apparently are not pulled in automatically with the RTF file so I did this: Looked at the original RTF file and got the tabStops in inches. Converted them to pixels (72 pixels per inch). Then just before printing, set the tabStops of the fld to my calculated stops. So tabs at .5 inches, 1 inch and 5 inches would be: Set the tabStops of someField to 36,72,360 (no quotes) Now we're cooking! Shari Hi Shari, Now that you've figured out most of the answers to your problems, the following comes to mind: - Revolution's rtfText supports only a subset of the RTF specification (to be more precise, it takes what it can provide with its own field rendering system and tries to kindly morph the rest into it) - Maybe it's better to use Word as your printing vehicle: let the user save a Word file as an RTF file, use that as a template for 'merging' the actual data into it, and then open the resulting output with Word, and send it to the printer - Presumably you're using Revolution to 'preview' the letter before printing, and at that point you might as well automatically open the file in Word and let the user tweak things if they want to, and hit the 'print' button in Word. If I find the time to do a follow-up article for the RevUp Newsletter, I'll write up how to automate Word for this sort of thing. Merge is also fun when applied to AppleScript, VBScript and the like :-) Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Ann: New Dutch RR forum
Dear Revolution users, Because the Dutch Revolution user base is steadily growing, I have set up a Dutch forum for Revolution programmers. You can find it here: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ . Regardless of whether you're Dutch, you're welcome to register and post your questions in English, German, French or Dutch. Just expect the answers to be in Dutch. Please note: this forum is in no way related to Runtime Revolution Ltd, except that the discussions cover their products. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz http://facebook.economy-x-talk.com Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: bad print quality of a resized image
--- Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevertheless I hope that this will not be necessary anymore with Rev 3.x. I'm sure this will still be necessary with Rev 3. I often end up printing a very large hi-rez image into a small rect on a printer page. It works very well and is great for adding logos and other high rez print graphics to pages. Once you script it, it's not that hard to automate. I typically print to a pdf file and view it at 100% to inspect if there are resolution issues. Jan, does Quartam now support multiple resolution images in reports? Just wondering. -Chipp Hi Chipp, For Quartam Reports 1.2 I'm looking at various enhancements to images, and the script I shared earlier was part of those experiments. So not today, but it's coming... Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] - first class languages and the new arrays in Beta 3
Unfortunately I can't test this as there is still no response to my application for beta testing :( But someone who has the 3.0 beta maybe can answer? I've been learning Lua for a project and a few things have impressed me - first how similar the syntax is, and second how much the language gets out of its array data structures (Lua calls them tables - but they work pretty much like Rev arrays). Now one thing irked me - Lua is apparently a first class language while Revolution is not. This is because functions are first class objects. What this comes down to is that functions can be held in a variable in Lua, and importantly they can be placed inside of an array - creating its own self contained little name-space. So this move to arrays within arrays - does that mean we moving towards Rev being a first class language? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
iMovie Thumbnais
Anyone know off hand what codec Apple Uses for the video thumbnails and preview in iMovie. My guess is that when a movie is imported into a project a preview clip is made which allows fast panning around. If we wanted similar functionality in Rev which codec should we use? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Euro symbol
The currency entity in ISO646 originally resolved to an international currency symbol. Since there was no such thing as an 'international currency' the symbol didn't actually mean anything to anyone, but it did avoid a war between the USA (Dollar), the Soviet Union (Rouble) and China (Yen). Britain (Pound) maintained a dignified silence, but probably chuckled a bit when no-one was watching. ISO8859-15 in 1999 was meant to replace this artificial symbol with the euro sign, with euro; as the entity, #8364; as the html numeric equivalent, Alt.Gr.4 or Alt.0128 as keyboard shortcuts on Windows and Shift.Option.2 on a Mac. The curren; entity is legacy from the 8-bit ISO 8859-1 character set (Latin-1), mainly to apease countries who hadn't substituted their own currency symbols on top of the ficticious, but Politically Correct, international symbol. That's why curren; still exists, but it is largely meaningless and has been depricated in favour of localised alternatives, namely ASCII 8364 for the Euro sign in this context. The Rev engine supports a (relatively) small and certainly incomplete entity equivalence set. Although cumbersome, if you set the htmltext of fld 1 to p#8364;/p it *should* be cross platform as Rev does implement all numeric equivalents (I guess by devolving the task to the result of a system call) all the way to high-ASCII unicode equivalents, but Rev seems to use #128; on Windows which, according to my table of ASCII equivalents, is an unused slot. /H On Aug 4, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Devin Asay wrote: 1. The html entity for the Euro symbol is curren; I guess you are a mac user Devin? The html entity for the euro symbol used in web pages is euro;. curren; may give you the euro symbol on a mac, IIRC mac roman replaced its currency symbol with the euro symbol some years back, but on Windows here I get the dear old currency symbol when I use curren; and, in Revolution, euro; just displays unmodified, unfortunately. Would be nice if euro; worked, I can't think of any reason why it couldn't. I've used #128; or numtochar(128) on windows when needed. Wow, that's really curious, and disturbing. On my Mac, if I do set the htmlText of fld 1 to euro; I get, as you do, the string euro; in the field. And curren; gives a Euro symbol on Mac, and the generic circle atop an X symbol on Windows. All along, I've just assumed that html entities were the same across platforms. I mean, isn't that the point? It looks like the only reliable way is to use unicode. Devin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Color Codes
Message: 26 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:17:36 +1000 Hi Heather You will find a ColorConverter at www.FlexibleLearning.com/xtalk that does exactly what you describe. It's a Rev stack with lots of other info built into it including color-safe sets, RGBREVHTM equivalent names etc etc. /H Last one before I jump into bed and thaw out after sitting at a computer for hours... I was wondering how to translate the RGB names to the HTML equivalent when user selects color with the Color Dialog. For such use as with a html page generator. If it doesn't exist already (though surely it's been done before, and I just can't find it): am I on the right track thinking that an array would be used to hold both code sets, then a function returns the html equivalent rather than the RGB? Or something! Though I know hardly anything about arrays, never used them - only very vaguely know what they are and what they do. Kind of. As I'm off to bed, I'll read up on them, then doze off to the sound of a script typewriter clacking in my Rev-Brainwashed noggin. :D Tia and Goodnight til Oz morn! Cheers, Heather ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-2: Removing CRLF from text
Hi all, I've tried all replies to this issue and the one that works is from Martin Baxter, using: put URL (binfile: tFilename) into tData put tData into fld Original --this results in displaying a box character at the end of each line --now look for the set of string characters that I want to remove put + CRLF into tmatchstring --the order that the string you're looking for is important replace tmatchstring with space in tData replace with empty in tData --the replace character is the last char of each line from the Original field. I copied this character into the script --place the result into a field for display put tData into fld Changed From my Changed field (the result of the script), I copied the text from it, saved it with Notepad and viewed the file with a Hex Editor. The characters at the end of each line are: (Hex=0d0d0a) which is 13 13 10 RunRev translation: cr cr lf Remember, this is all from using... put URL (binfile: tFilename) into tData From the saved file above, I used it as the ini file for the software application, and the application works with it - no problem. The net result is, this works using: put URL (binfile:. when trying to do what I need to do ... ... bring broken INI entries into one line, per ini entry. Thanx all for your interesting responses. It shows how awesome, diverse and I might say in a nice way, indulgent, each RunRev developer is. Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Very simple cursor problem
Here was my original post - This seems as basic as it can get. I have an image on a background. On mouseEnter and mouseLeave it calls a simple handler in the stack script. The script uses a switch statement. On mouseEnter I set cursor to hand. On mouseLeave I set cursor to arrow. I know the script gets executed because I put put statements in that put unique messages for mouseEnter and mouseLeave. BUT, the cursor never changes. Mark Schonewille-3 wrote: What was this about? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 28 jun 2008, at 06:30, stevex64 wrote: I knew it would be simple. Thank you both for your input! Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Very-simple-cursor-problem-tp18028333p18842761.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: scanners and Rev
Hello we have made an App in revolution interacting with scanservers of Axis. But because these scanservers are expiring it is not the right point to start with. But there are similar techniques on the market. Then you just get the scan by http. Another application uses scanners which scan directly in a dir on the pc which is permanently checked by a runrev application which works with the scanned images (jpg and pdf). Regards, Franz Böhmisch Kalispera Mit freundlichen Grüßen Franz Böhmisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.animabit.de GF Animabit Multimedia Software GmbH Am Sonnenhang 22 D-94136 Thyrnau Tel +49 (0)8501-8538 Fax +49 (0)8501-8537 Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter Subject: scanners and Rev (19-Aug-2008 9:57) From:viktoras didziulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is there any way to communicate with scanners in Revolution ? I would need my app to be able to invoke a default scanner dialog window and then put the scanned image into an image object. Dictionary says nothing about scanners... Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac icon specifications
Chris: My name is Marc EMILE from Axialis Software, author of IconWorkshop. May I ask you what version of IconWorkshop you used to generate the ICNS file? FYI, in the latest version 6.31 we've fixed an issue in 256x256 and 512x512 formats. If you used an older version, could you update to 6.31 and try to load/ save your icon? Does it fix the issue? Regards, Marc - Axialis Team www.axialis.com On Aug 21, 5:16 pm, Chris Sheffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to let everyone know, I got the artwork from the artist, plugged the images into Icon Composer, and all is well. :-) Thanks for all the suggestions. On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Ken Ray wrote: This is a limitation in Icon Composer, which only offers a few basic sizes. 128 pixels is the largest it allows. Actually, the latest Icon Composer under Leopard has 512, 256, 128, 32, and 16 pixel sizes. Chris, if you still have the problem after you check on the artwork, the other thing you can do is to check the 'info.plist' file in the bundle - this is where the OS connects the app to the icon. Look for: keyCFBundleTypeIconFile/key This should have a string after it that is the icon file that will be used for the app - make sure this is the same name as the actual icon file in the Resources folder. Just my 2 cents... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site:http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc.www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iMovie Thumbnais
David, I thought the new previews were a part of the AIC codec?! I'm not sure but I thought that the Apple Intermediate Codec provided support for clip previews when a video was converted with/for Quicktime playback. Tom McGrath On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:19 AM, David Bovill wrote: Anyone know off hand what codec Apple Uses for the video thumbnails and preview in iMovie. My guess is that when a movie is imported into a project a preview clip is made which allows fast panning around. If we wanted similar functionality in Rev which codec should we use? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 1st class via arrays, some comments...
I cant speak to Lua, but after spending (and filing lots of bugs) a
lot of time with rev arrays in RC1 that I can speak about.
I'm frustrated.
On one hand finally a key feature that brings transcript into a more
complete language is here; however, how its given to us appears far
from complete. I am hoping RC2 will really shine on polished arrays.
Rev cant afford to be so lax on this feature like so many features
given but not finished over the years. This is the first test of how
Rev handles major paradigm shifts in the language.
Shalom, Andrew
{Choose Life, Create Hope, Nurture Love, Wrestle Faith...}
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So this move to arrays within arrays - does that mean we moving
towards Rev
being a first class language?
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Text Field Woes
I'm trying to read a web page and extract data from it. I can read the page ok and put the text in a variable. I can parse and remove most of the extraneous stuff (TD.../TD etc.). Where I'm having a problem is when I put the digested information into a field to check it, each line is in a 3 dimensional box as if it was still trying to display the field as html. I AM setting the text of the field (not the htmlText) but I still get the boxes around the text. The reason this is a problem is that the data is a table composed of a time and 4 dollar amounts on each line. I need to convert this to a line with the items separated by commas so I can pick the items I want and work with them. I have tried replacing comma cr with comma, comma numToChar(13), with comma, etc but it doesn't seem to find any of those. Is there some way to suppress the display of data as html so that I get REAL carriage returns or something I can work with? Thanks! Len Morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac icon specifications
Thanks, Marc. Good to see your presence on this list. :-) I will have our artist make sure he's using the latest version and try again. That could very well have been the problem, seeing as how the artwork he sent me seemed just fine. On Aug 22, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Marc EMILE - Axialis wrote: Chris: My name is Marc EMILE from Axialis Software, author of IconWorkshop. May I ask you what version of IconWorkshop you used to generate the ICNS file? FYI, in the latest version 6.31 we've fixed an issue in 256x256 and 512x512 formats. If you used an older version, could you update to 6.31 and try to load/ save your icon? Does it fix the issue? Regards, Marc - Axialis Team www.axialis.com On Aug 21, 5:16 pm, Chris Sheffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to let everyone know, I got the artwork from the artist, plugged the images into Icon Composer, and all is well. :-) Thanks for all the suggestions. On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Ken Ray wrote: This is a limitation in Icon Composer, which only offers a few basic sizes. 128 pixels is the largest it allows. Actually, the latest Icon Composer under Leopard has 512, 256, 128, 32, and 16 pixel sizes. Chris, if you still have the problem after you check on the artwork, the other thing you can do is to check the 'info.plist' file in the bundle - this is where the OS connects the app to the icon. Look for: keyCFBundleTypeIconFile/key This should have a string after it that is the icon file that will be used for the app - make sure this is the same name as the actual icon file in the Resources folder. Just my 2 cents... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site:http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc.www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: communication between rev and revBrowser
On 19/8/08 05:03, David Bovill wrote: No built in way - out of interest what other environments do this - would be interested to check. There are only few hacks I can think of: 1. Register a protocol with the browser - html in the browser can then execute that code - AppleScript, Rev based shell scripts (not easy to automate registering protocol) 2. Sockets REST calls - use a Rev based server running on a local port, and get the html to call the local url (should work fine) 3. That Windows QuickSilver thingy??? 1. Interesting - I wonder how that plays out through revBrowser. If a protocol is registered with Safari, will revBrowser then get it, or it is Safari-outside-webkit doing it? 2. Yes, I think that's probably the only complete solution not requiring additional components (eg Flash, Silverlight); but probably only for page calling out to stack, doesn't help going the other way. 3. Silverlight thingy, I think; and theoretically on Mac (which is what I'm working on) though I'll believe it when I see it. But still, hmmm Thanks for your responses. I've entered a QC item on this (because I think it would be relatively straightforward enhancement, avoiding all such heavy duty aproaches). I'd be interested if you have any comments or suggestions to make on it: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6986 - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: OT: Original iMac ad influences
I hope you get better! (I usually get those from nodding off at the keyboard, I should really get an LCD to replace the CRT, I heard they're much softer). On the topic you've raised: I've often wondered how far back the design of the product begins prior to it making a social impact - In this sense, where the iMac was concerned: Is the design driven by the company or the designer? Steve Jobs hired Jonathan Ive: Did his design influence Steve Jobs? Did Steve Jobs want Jonathan Ive's designs? Would there have been a 'floral' iMac without them? Regardless of what really happened, it's a certainty that either SJ will take credit for it, or a loving set of followers will credit him with it ;-) Possibly, maybe not when they did, but it was bound to happen (whether from Apple or another company). Some may have even had similar designs prior to Apple, but afraid, weary of releasing something that different? The iMac's colors and varying shapes were consumer product designs applied to computers. The concept of doing something like this is not new - taking working, successful product qualities and applying them to a new class of products. This was how the Jello Pudding Pop was born. The iMac wasn't the first to do this, though they are without a doubt the most successful at crossing not only the technical boundaries but also cultural ones as well. Ive seen consumerized electronics from Japan since first going there in the late '80s, and computers a few years later thereafter. But I know it all started there well before that. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Original iMac ad influences
BvG, Oh man, I'm totally with you there (on the UI and usability issues). Regrettably, that's a topic for whenever I get to teach CS majors again :-/ And that;s not happening until economic conditions here chabnge and CS enrolment goes up, etc. Best regards, (and I';ll try to see you on ChatRev soon -- have youy Mark seen the trailer for the new Disney Beverly Hills Chihuahua movie? Iit's the bobo chihuahua song but better done methinks)... Judy On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Björnke von Gierke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip When I think of how computers change real life, I always think on how UI's are degrading in usability and intuitivity. A remote used to have a button for everything, yet never featured more then 30 buttons. These days there's hardly a remote to be found with less then 50 buttons, and they always are able to invoke some sort of software menu (or even several different ones) on the tv to make a gazillion of settings. Both the remotes and the software menus normally are hard to use and incompatible with any other usage pattern, just like computers. Björnke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Original iMac ad influences
Exactly. And very obviously, which is why I want to highlight it. Best regards, Judy On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The iMac's colors and varying shapes were consumer product designs applied to computers. The concept of doing something like this is not new - taking working, successful product qualities and applying them to a new class of products. This was how the Jello Pudding Pop was born. The iMac wasn't the first to do this, though they are without a doubt the most successful at crossing not only the technical boundaries but also cultural ones as well. Ive seen consumerized electronics from Japan since first going there in the late '80s, and computers a few years later thereafter. But I know it all started there well before that. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Euro symbol
Thanks for the historical background, Hugh. On Aug 5, 2008, at 11:50 AM, Hugh Senior wrote: The currency entity in ISO646 originally resolved to an international currency symbol. Since there was no such thing as an 'international currency' the symbol didn't actually mean anything to anyone, but it did avoid a war between the USA (Dollar), the Soviet Union (Rouble) and China (Yen). Britain (Pound) maintained a dignified silence, but probably chuckled a bit when no-one was watching. ISO8859-15 in 1999 was meant to replace this artificial symbol with the euro sign, with euro; as the entity, #8364; as the html numeric equivalent, Alt.Gr.4 or Alt.0128 as keyboard shortcuts on Windows and Shift.Option.2 on a Mac. The curren; entity is legacy from the 8-bit ISO 8859-1 character set (Latin-1), mainly to apease countries who hadn't substituted their own currency symbols on top of the ficticious, but Politically Correct, international symbol. That's why curren; still exists, but it is largely meaningless and has been depricated in favour of localised alternatives, namely ASCII 8364 for the Euro sign in this context. The Rev engine supports a (relatively) small and certainly incomplete entity equivalence set. Although cumbersome, if you set the htmltext of fld 1 to p#8364;/p it *should* be cross platform as Rev does implement all numeric equivalents (I guess by devolving the task to the result of a system call) all the way to high-ASCII unicode equivalents, but Rev seems to use #128; on Windows which, according to my table of ASCII equivalents, is an unused slot. I had tried that earlier, but it doesn't work for me on my Intel Mac with 10.5.4. When I embed #8364; into an html string and set the htmlText of a field to it, I get an upper-case T. That surprised me, because using unicode escapes in htmltext has generally been very reliable for me in producing the desired unicode glyphs. The only consistent, reliable method I've found for producing the Euro symbol cross platform is using UTF-8 encoding: set the unicodeText of fld 1 to uniencode(€,utf8) Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Mac icon specifications
Marc, It's good to see your presence on this forum. I too own a license of IconWorkshop (just upgraded to 6.31), and create all my images for my applications with it. Great product. Thanx, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 1st class via arrays, some comments...
Andrew, I'm very interested in this addition to Rev, and would like to know more about what problems you've uncovered. It would probably be frowned upon to discuss it here, so would you mind posting some comments in the Beta forum. If there are problems/limitations that the developers are not aware of, then it is really imperative we draw them to their attention asap. Bernard On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Andrew Meit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant speak to Lua, but after spending (and filing lots of bugs) a lot of time with rev arrays in RC1 that I can speak about. I'm frustrated. On one hand finally a key feature that brings transcript into a more complete language is here; however, how its given to us appears far from complete. I am hoping RC2 will really shine on polished arrays. Rev cant afford to be so lax on this feature like so many features given but not finished over the years. This is the first test of how Rev handles major paradigm shifts in the language. Shalom, Andrew ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Text Field Woes
Hi Len, You wrote: Is there some way to suppress the display of data as html so that I get REAL carriage returns or something I can work with? I too had issues with parsing html text, and the following threads may help you on this. Look for the threads: Removing CRLF from text Start here: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2008-August/113226.html and here: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2008-August/113339.html HTH, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Meow for iPod (RE: OT: Original iMac ad influences)
http://www.brightonnet.co.jp/product/ipod/bi-spcatwh.html Here's a funny design one for you from Japan, for the cat fanatic :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Perry Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:04 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: OT: Original iMac ad influences Exactly. And very obviously, which is why I want to highlight it. Best regards, Judy On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The iMac's colors and varying shapes were consumer product designs applied to computers. The concept of doing something like this is not new - taking working, successful product qualities and applying them to a new class of products. This was how the Jello Pudding Pop was born. The iMac wasn't the first to do this, though they are without a doubt the most successful at crossing not only the technical boundaries but also cultural ones as well. Ive seen consumerized electronics from Japan since first going there in the late '80s, and computers a few years later thereafter. But I know it all started there well before that. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Slightly OT - finding time
Dear Bob, I was away to take some rest then I reply a bit late. First thanks for the kind words for all of us. Second, as last thread about polling the mouse showed it, even if we are able to propose sometimes clever responses, we always have to learn from each other and stay humble when we make mistakes :-) That's the real quality of this list: people who want to learn and people who want to share are the same :-) This is just humanity. Le 14 août 08 à 02:43, Bob Earp a écrit : Dear Eric, Chip, Ray, Scott, Sara, Devin, Andre, Klaus and all of the other incredible and regular contributors to this list (sorry I can't list you all), you must obviously have invented a new time machine and are only sharing it between you. I need it !! I find barely enough time to scan digests and maybe once in a year answer something before at least 10 of you have provided solutions and wisdom I could only dream of. Not only that, but you find time to write tutorials and example stacks, and then sit and discuss the merits of one solution over another. Sheesh... I wish !! How do you do this ?? I know its been said before (and hopefully Kevin Miller is reading this), but without all of you Revolution would have gone the way of Oracle Media Objects. He should at least give you all free lifetime upgrades if not shares in the company. On behalf of the rest of us (and I think I'm in the majority group), many, many thanks for helping on a daily basis. No, correct that, it's generally on an hourly basis !! Warmest regards, Bob. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A way to modal a stack with a normal title bar
Is there way to modal a stack or if have it stay on top of previous opened stacks with a normal title bar? (not the tiny one when used with modal) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A way to modal a stack with a normal title bar
Hi aj, To make a stack modal, you can set its style to modal or you use the modal command (or go to stack xxx as modal). AFAIK, this will show the stack as a modal dialog with a normal title bar. Is this what you want? I didn't think the modal title bar was tiny. Is it possible that you are confusing modal windows and palettes? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz http://facebook.economy-x-talk.com Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 22 aug 2008, at 22:09, aj wrote: Is there way to modal a stack or if have it stay on top of previous opened stacks with a normal title bar? (not the tiny one when used with modal) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text Field Woes
I'm not sure what the problem is here. Can you provide a sample URL and the basic transcript of the code you are using so we can see where it is going wrong. It sounds to me like your process of 'digesting' the text might be causing the problem. I just found a web page with currencies on it (www.xe.com), and simply using set the htmlText of fld currencies to URL http://www.xe.com; seems to produce a page without the boxed text you are describing as a problem. Are you sure that you haven't just set the textStyle of that field so that it will display as boxed? Bernard On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to read a web page and extract data from it. I can read the page ok and put the text in a variable. I can parse and remove most of the extraneous stuff (TD.../TD etc.). Where I'm having a problem is when I put the digested information into a field to check it, each line is in a 3 dimensional box as if it was still trying to display the field as html. I AM setting the text of the field (not the htmlText) but I still get the boxes around the text. The reason this is a problem is that the data is a table composed of a time and 4 dollar amounts on each line. I need to convert this to a line with the items separated by commas so I can pick the items I want and work with them. I have tried replacing comma cr with comma, comma numToChar(13), with comma, etc but it doesn't seem to find any of those. Is there some way to suppress the display of data as html so that I get REAL carriage returns or something I can work with? Thanks! Len Morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
A way to modal a stack with a normal title bar
I've noticed that in OS Vista that the title bars appear normal while in modal but in XP it appears really small and is very unappealing for an application. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Making a mainstack subordinate to another stack
I have a mainstack (with substacks) that I would like to make subordinate to another stack. The correct procedure would be? set the mainstack of blah to goo doesn't do it since blah has substacks. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making a mainstack subordinate to another stack
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a mainstack (with substacks) that I would like to make subordinate to another stack. The correct procedure would be? set the mainstack of blah to goo doesn't do it since blah has substacks. A substack cannot have it's own substacks, so first go through all the substacks, setting their mainStack to the new main, then when the old main has no substacks left, you can set it's mainStack too. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
