Re: stsMLXEditor, Notepad, Vista, Rev 3

2008-09-05 Thread Ken Ray

 My problem is that in trying to just test how the latest version (from Ken's
 site) of stsMLXEditor works on Vista with Notepad, the 'test' button opens
 Notepad with the script in it, but when I save the script and exit Notepad,
 and then re-open the script again, the changes are not there.  Am I
 misunderstanding how it is supposed to work, or is something weird happening
 in my situation? (Maybe something has changed with Rev 3).

Well, it *should* work properly, but I'll test it and let you know what I
uncover.

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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Re: Revolution 3.0 New script editor

2008-09-05 Thread René Micout

Sarah,
Macintosh PB PPC G4 1,5 GHz,
MacOS X 10.4.11,
GLX2 version 2.1r2
Meilleurs souvenirs de Paris
René

Le 5 sept. 08 à 02:19, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :


On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:00 AM, René Micout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good Night
I bought GLX2 this afternoon and I discovered now...
A small problem : clic on the right scollbar don't work... Is it a  
bug ?
Another : Rev-Guides Picker 2.1 no longer works (the horizontal  
guide)...

Meilleurs souvenirs de Paris
René



The scrollbar seems to work fine here René. What operating system are
you using and what version of GLX2?

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: rev online

2008-09-05 Thread -= JB =-

Have your stack open and then access Rev Online.  Go to your my space
and that little message explains how to do it.  It is so simple I  
always get it

screwed up too.  Here are the details:

To share a stack, simply make sure it is selected (that means  
selected in
your my space file thus it is the line that is hilited) and choose  
share this
stack from the Rev file menu while your stack is open.  Please note  
if you

want to easily update this stack you need to Save it from your Rev file
menu immediately after you share it.  Then you can just update if you do
not do that and you want to make a change to your stack and post it on
RevOnline you need to delete if from Rev OnLIne and use the above to
repost it like you did the first time.

-=JB=-


On Sep 4, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Peter Brigham wrote:

Well, after all this time using Rev I'm finally trying to put some  
of my stacks into my user space in Rev Online, and I can't for the  
life of me figure out how to do it. I *think* the procedure is:  
open the stack, select share this stack from the file menu,  
select the category, enter the name of the stack and a description,  
then click upload -- but when I do this, nothing seems to happen.  
My stack doesn't appear in what I presume to be the list of my  
shared stacks in the bottom field of My Space, and it doesn't  
appear in the lists of user stacks to browse either. What am I  
missing?


I must say, some built-in instructions on uploading a stack to be  
shared on Rev Online would be very helpful. There is no help text  
associated with Rev Online, and I can't find any info on this  
anywhere else I've looked The user manual comes up blank.  
Clearly I'm missing something, and once someone tells me how to do  
this, I'm sure it will be obvious, but a well designed app  
shouldn't leave the user this much at sea, I think.


An otherwise quite satisfied amateur,

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS: just tried out 3.0, seems pretty good. Looking forward to using  
multidimensional arrays Not sure yet about the script editor.

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Re: [Heads Up:] OLED Buttons

2008-09-05 Thread viktoras didziulis
Oh, they have finally released this! Some time ago Art. Lebedev studio 
offered to pre-order their keyboards when the final product was just in 
a stage of concept. Its good to see they have succeeded. When I saw 
their Optimus Maximus concept the first thought was that it would be 
much simpler to use touch-sensitive lcd screen and to display any 
keyboard on it. One could even get real 3D buttons with a lenticular 
or parallax barrier screen and a feeling of click feedback via 
vibration on touch. Their last concept seems to be close to this, but 
not there yet...


Viktoras

Stephen Barncard wrote:
Here's a line of new HUI devices for human input... those involved in 
KIOSKS and super-custom and multi-lingual applications might want to 
know about these...


Awesome... each button on the keyboard has a little CPU and a 48x48 
color screen.

http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/



they have a 3 button version, a little affordable one, APIs available
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-mini/


and a kiosk big button thing n- expandable
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-upravlator/


this is on the drawing board
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus/




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Re: semi-OT: can Rev pre-populate data on a web form?

2008-09-05 Thread Ben Rubinstein

Chris Sheffield wrote:
So my main question is, can Rev send data to a web form like this in 
such a way that whatever fields we specify will be populated when the 
browser/form opens? Not sure if something like this is even possible. I 
haven't done enough web development to know. Is some special JavaScript 
required to accomplish this? In thinking this through a little more, if 
we have a web form that's already set up to send an email, can't I take 
advantage of that in Rev by creating my own form and then sending the 
data straight to the cgi behind the form? Once again, I haven't done 
much web dev, so I may not even know what I'm talking about. :-)


If anyone can help or can offer any other suggestions for how to
accomplish something similar, it'd be much appreciated.



If I've understood your request correctly, you really want a Rev stack to
collect some information from the user, and have it arrive at your server in
the form of an email.  There's a simple way to get what you want, I think.

Using the SMTP libraries should make this possible, but has some issues, in
particular your rev stack then needs to know the address of a mail server it
can use from within the user's network to send email.  But if you have a web
form on your server that's successfully sending email where you want it,
there's no need to open a user's browser to view it.  Instead, Rev can
effectively be that web form.

(Apologies if what follows is teaching my granny to suck eggs.) If you look at
the source of the web page, it will contain a form element with an action
and a method.  The action is the address of a server-side resource (a script
etc) which receives the values entered into the form and processes it, in this
case by sending an email.  The method is either POST or GET.  If it's GET,
then the resource expects the values in the URL string, eg if I fill in this
simple form

form method=GET action=formmail.cgi
input name=first type=text
input name=last type=text
input type=submit /
/form

my browser will next fetch a URL like this:
  ./formmail.cgi?first=Benlast=Rubinstein

(the first part of the URL being constructed based on the URL of the page
holding the form, adjusted by the 'action' of the form.)

Lecture over; the point is that executing

put ./formmail.cgi?first=Benlast=Rubinstein into tURL
get URL tURL

or perhaps more likely
put ./formmail.cgi into tScriptURL
put tScriptURL \
 ?first=  tFirstName \
 last=  tLastName \
into tURL
get URL tURL



in your Rev stack will have exactly* the same effect on the 'formmail.cgi'
resource as the user entering those details into their browser.  At this point
Rev is acting like a browser, making a request of the web server.  So no need
to open an actual browser.

If the form uses the POST method instead, then it's only slightly more
complicated.  Instead of get URL, you need to use the post command, which
will look something more like this:

put libURLformData(first, tFirstName, last, tLastName) into tData
post tData to tScriptURL

There will be a few complications along the way; you should read the
(splending new in 3.0) docs, check out functions like URLencode, and above
all, test.  But either way, given that you have the web form already, this is
probably the simplest route to achieve what you want.

HTH,

- Ben


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Image File Picker

2008-09-05 Thread Jesse Sng

Hi,

I'm wondering if anybody has already rolled out an image file picker 
that allows for image previews when asking a user to select an image?


Maybe I'm missing something here because as far as I know, this is 
currently not possible using the ask file command and you let the 
user select a graphics file. So I'm assuming that there would be a 
need to implement something of our own.


Does someone already have a sample stack that does that?

Thanks,


Jesse Sng
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Re: Image File Picker

2008-09-05 Thread François Chaplais


Le 5 sept. 08 à 11:53, Jesse Sng a écrit :


Hi,

I'm wondering if anybody has already rolled out an image file  
picker that allows for image previews when asking a user to select  
an image?


Maybe I'm missing something here because as far as I know, this is  
currently not possible using the ask file command and you let the  
user select a graphics file. So I'm assuming that there would be a  
need to implement something of our own.


Does someone already have a sample stack that does that?



I will reply for MacOS X (precisely 10.4.11) usage. When I am in the  
open file dialog of Preview (Apple app) or Intaglio or  
GraphicConverter (3rd party apps) a jpg or pdf document, I have a  
preview available at the right of the dialog window. This has been  
true for common bitmap image file formats even in the pre OS X days,  
thanks, I believe, to QuickTime.
When doing New Referenced ControlImage file... or Import as  
ControlImage File... and select a JPEG image, all I get is a  
generic JPEG icon in rev Studio 2.8.1. I do not know if it is a bug,  
but it certainly a missing feature.

Anybody has info on this?
Best regards from Paris
François
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Re: Image File Picker

2008-09-05 Thread Klaus Major

Hi François,


Le 5 sept. 08 à 11:53, Jesse Sng a écrit :

Hi,

I'm wondering if anybody has already rolled out an image file  
picker that allows for image previews when asking a user to select  
an image?
Maybe I'm missing something here because as far as I know, this is  
currently not possible using the ask file command and you let the  
user select a graphics file. So I'm assuming that there would be a  
need to implement something of our own.

Does someone already have a sample stack that does that?


I will reply for MacOS X (precisely 10.4.11) usage. When I am in the  
open file dialog of Preview (Apple app) or Intaglio or  
GraphicConverter (3rd party apps) a jpg or pdf document, I have a  
preview available at the right of the dialog window. This has been  
true for common bitmap image file formats even in the pre OS X days,  
thanks, I believe, to QuickTime.
When doing New Referenced ControlImage file... or Import as  
ControlImage File... and select a JPEG image, all I get is a  
generic JPEG icon in rev Studio 2.8.1. I do not know if it is a bug,  
but it certainly a missing feature.

Anybody has info on this?


on OS X 10.5 you get an image preview in the Rev import dialogs!
Tested with Rev 2.9 and 3.0.


Best regards from Paris
François


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de


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Re: rev online

2008-09-05 Thread Björnke von Gierke
It should work that way, maybe you're not registered or something like  
that, i suggest writing an e-mail to Rev support.


On 5 Sep 2008, at 03:07, Peter Brigham wrote:

Well, after all this time using Rev I'm finally trying to put some  
of my stacks into my user space in Rev Online, and I can't for the  
life of me figure out how to do it. I *think* the procedure is: open  
the stack, select share this stack from the file menu, select the  
category, enter the name of the stack and a description, then click  
upload -- but when I do this, nothing seems to happen. My stack  
doesn't appear in what I presume to be the list of my shared stacks  
in the bottom field of My Space, and it doesn't appear in the  
lists of user stacks to browse either. What am I missing?


I must say, some built-in instructions on uploading a stack to be  
shared on Rev Online would be very helpful. There is no help text  
associated with Rev Online, and I can't find any info on this  
anywhere else I've looked The user manual comes up blank.  
Clearly I'm missing something, and once someone tells me how to do  
this, I'm sure it will be obvious, but a well designed app shouldn't  
leave the user this much at sea, I think.


An otherwise quite satisfied amateur,

-- Peter


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Re: [Heads Up:] OLED Buttons

2008-09-05 Thread Mikey
FYI, the small version has been out for a year or so.  The Optimus
keyboard, only three or four months.  Right after they rolled out the
full KB, either GE or Westinghouse announced that they had a new,
cheaper way to manufacture OLED's in sheets, which will make this sort
of input device much more cost-effective.  In situations such as ours,
where we have legacy applications that make heavy use of function keys
in terminal application software, this brings a wonderful way to
transition to new technology because we can simply and easily update
each display, which means that folks will quickly be able to see what
it is they are pressing, and therefore will hit fewer wrong keys.
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[ANN] Rev Mentor Website Launch

2008-09-05 Thread Jerry Daniels

Fellow Revolution Lovers,

It is my great pleasure to announce the opening of the Rev Mentor  
website!


Subscribing to Rev Mentor is a great way to do the following:

- Keep up with the changing Revolution language and IDE;
- Advance your knowledge of development strategies and architectures;
- See video tutorials, interviews, tips, tricks, learn about new  
opportunities;

- Have a place on the web where you can hang with your 'peeps'.

It costs $10 per month with no contracts and is video heavy.

SOME OPEN-TO-THE-PUBLIC LINKS

General Site:
   http://www.revmentor.com/

Analysis of this email list:
   http://www.revmentor.com/top-tens-public/
   Cool bar graphs with wry video commentary.

Interview with Kevin Miller re: Rev 3.0 Launch:
   http://www.revmentor.com/interviews-public/
   Jerry in Austin interviews Kevin in Edinburgh.

Check it out!

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Daniels  Mara, Inc.
Makers of GLX2
http://www.glx2.com
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BvG Docu 1.2 works with Rev 3

2008-09-05 Thread Bernard Devlin
As the other part of my quest to run Rev on a UMPC, I wanted to have the
Dictionary on a separate workspace, and one way to do that and make sure it
stays on that workspace would be if the documentation was a standalone
application.  Trying to create a standalone from the Rev 3 dictionary
doesn't work (or won't work without some hacking about).  So I checked BvG's
documentation tool.  Thankfully, it works as a standalone for either 2.9 or
3.0.

In fact, I actually think it is a better design - the ordinary Rev
dictionary wastes about 50% of the space 'above the fold' (with the
'introduced','changed','platforms' lines), meaning I often have to scroll
down just to read basic information such as 'summary' and 'examples'.

Thanks Björnke!

Bernard
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Re: stsMLXEditor, Notepad, Vista, Rev 3

2008-09-05 Thread Bernard Devlin
Thanks Ken.  Your remarks mean my interpretation of how it should work was
not off-the-mark.  I like the new Rev 3 editor and the GLX2 editor, but on a
9 inch screen it's going to be really hard to manage an IDE without finding
some way to de-clutter things.  I may even have to learn to use MetaCard IDE
(I've got a license for that somewhere).

Bernard

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well, it *should* work properly, but I'll test it and let you know what I
 uncover.

 Ken Ray
 Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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Re: Revolution 3.0 New script editor

2008-09-05 Thread Jerry Daniels

René,

Please post any errors on http://glx2.com support site. We'll sort  
through them. We have had a few anomalies in making the transition  
from Rev 2.x to 3.0.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

Daniels  Mara, Inc.
Makers of GLX2
http://www.glx2.com

On Sep 5, 2008, at 3:10 AM, René Micout wrote:


Sarah,
Macintosh PB PPC G4 1,5 GHz,
MacOS X 10.4.11,
GLX2 version 2.1r2
Meilleurs souvenirs de Paris
René

Le 5 sept. 08 à 02:19, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:00 AM, René Micout [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Good Night
I bought GLX2 this afternoon and I discovered now...
A small problem : clic on the right scollbar don't work... Is it a  
bug ?
Another : Rev-Guides Picker 2.1 no longer works (the horizontal  
guide)...

Meilleurs souvenirs de Paris
René



The scrollbar seems to work fine here René. What operating system are
you using and what version of GLX2?

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: semi-OT: can Rev pre-populate data on a web form?

2008-09-05 Thread Chris Sheffield
Thanks for the response and good explanation, Ben. This may be exactly  
what I need. I'll be giving it a try today.


Chris


On Sep 5, 2008, at 3:28 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:


Chris Sheffield wrote:
So my main question is, can Rev send data to a web form like this  
in such a way that whatever fields we specify will be populated  
when the browser/form opens? Not sure if something like this is  
even possible. I haven't done enough web development to know. Is  
some special JavaScript required to accomplish this? In thinking  
this through a little more, if we have a web form that's already  
set up to send an email, can't I take advantage of that in Rev by  
creating my own form and then sending the data straight to the cgi  
behind the form? Once again, I haven't done much web dev, so I may  
not even know what I'm talking about. :-)


If anyone can help or can offer any other suggestions for how to
accomplish something similar, it'd be much appreciated.



If I've understood your request correctly, you really want a Rev  
stack to
collect some information from the user, and have it arrive at your  
server in
the form of an email.  There's a simple way to get what you want, I  
think.


Using the SMTP libraries should make this possible, but has some  
issues, in
particular your rev stack then needs to know the address of a mail  
server it
can use from within the user's network to send email.  But if you  
have a web
form on your server that's successfully sending email where you want  
it,

there's no need to open a user's browser to view it.  Instead, Rev can
effectively be that web form.

(Apologies if what follows is teaching my granny to suck eggs.) If  
you look at
the source of the web page, it will contain a form element with an  
action
and a method.  The action is the address of a server-side resource  
(a script
etc) which receives the values entered into the form and processes  
it, in this
case by sending an email.  The method is either POST or GET.  If  
it's GET,
then the resource expects the values in the URL string, eg if I fill  
in this

simple form

form method=GET action=formmail.cgi
input name=first type=text
input name=last type=text
input type=submit /
/form

my browser will next fetch a URL like this:
 ./formmail.cgi?first=Benlast=Rubinstein

(the first part of the URL being constructed based on the URL of the  
page

holding the form, adjusted by the 'action' of the form.)

Lecture over; the point is that executing

put ./formmail.cgi?first=Benlast=Rubinstein into tURL
get URL tURL

or perhaps more likely
put ./formmail.cgi into tScriptURL
put tScriptURL \
?first=  tFirstName \
 last=  tLastName \
into tURL
get URL tURL



in your Rev stack will have exactly* the same effect on the  
'formmail.cgi'
resource as the user entering those details into their browser.  At  
this point
Rev is acting like a browser, making a request of the web server.   
So no need

to open an actual browser.

If the form uses the POST method instead, then it's only slightly more
complicated.  Instead of get URL, you need to use the post  
command, which

will look something more like this:

put libURLformData(first, tFirstName, last, tLastName) into tData
post tData to tScriptURL

There will be a few complications along the way; you should read the
(splending new in 3.0) docs, check out functions like URLencode, and  
above
all, test.  But either way, given that you have the web form  
already, this is

probably the simplest route to achieve what you want.

HTH,

- Ben


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Re: [Heads Up:] OLED Buttons

2008-09-05 Thread Stephen Barncard
Yes, the Optimus people have a 'concept' page on their site where 
they show a keyboard that's totally flat and devoid of mechanical 
linkages, ie no buttons at all.  The visible surface can then take 
any image. 'Special' keyboards, oversize keys, machine control panels 
and music keyboards come to mind.


That unit will probably have to have some firmware, or a simple 
'language' that can be uploaded to define regions.




FYI, the small version has been out for a year or so.  The Optimus
keyboard, only three or four months.  Right after they rolled out the
full KB, either GE or Westinghouse announced that they had a new,
cheaper way to manufacture OLED's in sheets, which will make this sort
of input device much more cost-effective.  In situations such as ours,
where we have legacy applications that make heavy use of function keys
in terminal application software, this brings a wonderful way to
transition to new technology because we can simply and easily update
each display, which means that folks will quickly be able to see what
it is they are pressing, and therefore will hit fewer wrong keys.
___


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Re-2: put visible watermark onto a jpg with rev ?

2008-09-05 Thread runrev260805
Thanks Chip,

that was exactly what i was looking for.

Matthias

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: put visible watermark onto a jpg with rev ? (04-Sep-2008 23:13)
From:Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sure,
 Just overlay your PNG (w/Alpha) watermark, then export snapshot as a JPEG.
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how to determine how many parameters in commandline

2008-09-05 Thread runrev260805
Hi,

how can i determine how many parameters ($0.$1,$2,$3...) were in a commandline.

And is there a limitation in the count of the commandline parameters?

I need this to allow the customer to drag several files onto a shortcut of a 
rev app (under windows).
The filenames are automatically put each into one commandline variable. But how 
can i find out how much files/variables these are?


Regards,

Matthias
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Re: how to determine how many parameters in commandline

2008-09-05 Thread Mark Schonewille

Matthias,

put $#

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On 5 sep 2008, at 17:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

how can i determine how many parameters ($0.$1,$2,$3...) were in a  
commandline.


And is there a limitation in the count of the commandline parameters?

I need this to allow the customer to drag several files onto a  
shortcut of a rev app (under windows).
The filenames are automatically put each into one commandline  
variable. But how can i find out how much files/variables these are?



Regards,

Matthias


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Re: rev online

2008-09-05 Thread -= JB =-
Maybe it worked and you didn't see it.  Select the stack in your Rev  
Online my space and
then click on the Go to button.  If it worked the stack will open.   
That means was properly
saved by Rev Online but you just can't find it.  It will be saved in  
the category you chose
for it but it could be anywhere in the list when you view the stacks  
for that category.  The
last time I put a stack on there it was saved near the bottom and  
then when I deleted it
to upload the updated stack it was saved in the same place.  Then  
because I forgot to
save it the first time it was put on Rev Online and wanted to make a  
minor change and
put it on Rev Online I had to delete it again.  This time that stack  
I shared online was put
near the middle of the category.  So it could be anywhere in the  
category you selected

when you shared it online.

-=JB=-


On Sep 5, 2008, at 5:05 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:

It should work that way, maybe you're not registered or something  
like that, i suggest writing an e-mail to Rev support.


On 5 Sep 2008, at 03:07, Peter Brigham wrote:

Well, after all this time using Rev I'm finally trying to put some  
of my stacks into my user space in Rev Online, and I can't for the  
life of me figure out how to do it. I *think* the procedure is:  
open the stack, select share this stack from the file menu,  
select the category, enter the name of the stack and a  
description, then click upload -- but when I do this, nothing  
seems to happen. My stack doesn't appear in what I presume to be  
the list of my shared stacks in the bottom field of My Space,  
and it doesn't appear in the lists of user stacks to browse  
either. What am I missing?


I must say, some built-in instructions on uploading a stack to be  
shared on Rev Online would be very helpful. There is no help text  
associated with Rev Online, and I can't find any info on this  
anywhere else I've looked The user manual comes up blank.  
Clearly I'm missing something, and once someone tells me how to do  
this, I'm sure it will be obvious, but a well designed app  
shouldn't leave the user this much at sea, I think.


An otherwise quite satisfied amateur,

-- Peter


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Calling iTunes and identifying library

2008-09-05 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon

Hi from Paris,

For Mac/Rev users only

As a songwriter (among other worldly sins), I built a Rev stack
containing all the info for each song in our catalog. Originally,
I could play an MP3 track of any song from the Rev stack, and
also display the lyrics as well, simply by creating a folder with
all the MP3 tracks and the lyrics in it, which I built independantly.

So far  - so good.

Then I got greedy and decided to call iTunes from the Rev stack,
to play the AIFF track (using a call to AppleScript), and also
to pick up and display the lyrics, also stored in iTunes.

Even better !

Then I blew it by splitting my iTunes library into 3 distinct
libraries, and using the Alt key to choose the library when
launching iTunes from the dock. This decision was made because
I have nearly 100 gigs of music in iTunes, and I wanted to
isolate our catalog.

Now, my solution to call iTunes from my Rev stack doesn't work,
because it always accesses the LAST DEFINED LIBRARY when iTunes
was called manually.

In AppleScript iTunes Suite commands, I can't find a parameter
for selecting the iTunes library (does it exist ?). Have I
missed something ?

Anybody got any brilliant ideas as to how I can access ANY
iTunes library from a Rev stack ? (the same is true for iPhoto !),
on a Mac - of course !!

Now I know this looks like an AppleScript problem, but some of you
guys have fingers in so many pies !!! Who else could I possibly ask ??

-Francis



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Re-2: how to determine how many parameters in commandline

2008-09-05 Thread runrev260805
Mark,

thanks but i do not get it?

Could you explain, please?

Regards,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: how to determine how many parameters in commandline (05-Sep-2008 
18:45)
From:Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Matthias,
 
 put $#
 
 --
 Best regards,
 
 Mark Schonewille
 
 Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
 http://economy-x-talk.com
 http://www.salery.biz
 http://facebook.economy-x-talk.com
 
 Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.
 com/server.html 
   for more info.
 
 On 5 sep 2008, at 17:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  how can i determine how many parameters ($0.$1,$2,$3...) were in a  
  commandline.
 
  And is there a limitation in the count of the commandline parameters?
 
  I need this to allow the customer to drag several files onto a  
  shortcut of a rev app (under windows).
  The filenames are automatically put each into one commandline  
  variable. But how can i find out how much files/variables these are?
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Matthias
 
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Re: Calling iTunes and identifying library

2008-09-05 Thread Jim Sims


On Sep 5, 2008, at 6:43 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:


Anybody got any brilliant ideas as to how I can access ANY
iTunes library from a Rev stack ? (the same is true for iPhoto !),
on a Mac - of course !!




This web site has tons of cool iTunes applescripts:

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/index.php


The section for managing  playlists is:

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/scripts06.php


sims
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Re: Text of an image

2008-09-05 Thread Ken Ray

 The lockLoc of the second image must either be false OR the second
 image must be the exact same size as the first image. Otherwise the
 image/alphaData of the two images will not be the same.

Right. Here's a cheat sheet for those who care:  ;-)

the imageData of imgObj
-
Holds the Red, Green, Blue, and Alpha pixel values (bits) of the visual
representation of the image object. The amount of imageData in an image
object is (Height * Width * 4), regardless of whether there's an actual
image in the image object. (You can test this by creating an image object,
sizing it to any size you like, and then execute put length(the imageData
of imageObjectDescriptor) in the Message Box.)


the text of imgObj

Holds the actual binary data for the image *inside* the image object. If
the image object's 'alphaData' property contains any other value than 255
(opaque), the data is stored in PNG format in the image.


Setting ImageData/Binary vs. Visual Copies
-
NOTE: When you set the imageData of an object, you are telling Rev to
*create the binary data* to represent the imageData you're passing it. This
has the result of causing the text of the image object to be different
than the text of a source image, even if they *look* the same. So for the
purposes of the list below, I use these terms:

   binary copy - The text of two images are the same, but the imageData of
the two images are different.

visual copy - The imageData of two images are the same, but the text
of the two images are different.

exact copy - Both the text and imageData of two images are the same.

unique - Both the text and imageData of two images are different.


Resizing/FormattedWidth/FormattedHeight
--
When you resize an image, the visual representation (imageData) changes, but
its binary representation does not. This is why an image object will
automatically resize itself to match the full dimensions of the image when a
card is opened UNLESS the image object's lockLocation (lockLoc) is TRUE.

Note that even though you can resize the rect of the image object, the
original image data's width and height are still accessible through the use
of the formattedWIdth and formattedHeight properties of the image
object.
 

Embedding vs. Referencing

When you embed an image (i.e. Import as Control...), the image object
created has both a visual representation (imageData) as well as a binary
representation (text).

When you reference an image (i.e. New Referenced Control...), the image
object created ONLY has a visual representation (imageData) and has no
binary representation at all (text is empty).


WORKING WITH TWO IMAGES
=

Source and Destination are Same Size

put img Src into img Dest

- Source is Embedded:
  img Dest has an EXACT COPY of img Src

- Source is Referenced:
  img Dest is empty (or emptied out)


set the imageData of img Dest to the imageData of img Src

- Source is Embedded OR Referenced:
  img Dest has an VISUAL COPY of img Src


Source and Destination are Different Sizes

put img Src into img Dest

- Source is Embedded, lockLoc of Dest is FALSE:
  img Dest is resized to match the width/height
  of img Src, resulting in an EXACT COPY of img Src
 
- Source is Embedded, lockLoc of Dest is TRUE:
  img Dest is not resized, but holds a skewed view
  of img Src, just as if you'd resized img Src to the
  same dimensions as img Dest, resulting in a
  BINARY COPY of img Src

- Source is Referenced, lockLoc of Dest is TRUE or FALSE:
  img Dest is empty (or emptied out)
 
set the imageData of img Dest to the imageData of img Src

Source is Embedded or Referenced, lockLoc is TRUE or FALSE:
- img Dest contains visual garbage, and its
  size is unchanged, regardless of whether the lockLoc
  is TRUE or FALSE; img Dest is UNIQUE


TRICKS
==

Resetting an Image to its Original Size/State
--
If an embedded image has had its rect changed so that it is no longer the
original size, you reset the image like this:

  set the lockLoc of img 1 to false
  put img 1 into img 1

This is possible because the binary data (text) of img 1 has not changed
since it was imported; only the visual representation (imageData) has
changed. So putting the binary data of the image back into the image forces
Rev to resize the image (assuming the lockLoc is false).


Creating Thumbnails/Reducing Size of Stored Images
---
If you want to show a 

Re: Text of an image

2008-09-05 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Ken and all,


The lockLoc of the second image must either be false OR the second
image must be the exact same size as the first image. Otherwise the
image/alphaData of the two images will not be the same.


Right. Here's a cheat sheet for those who care:  ;-)

the imageData of imgObj...
...


thanks a lot for this one, Ken, very useful info!


Mabe the following is of some interest for Mac users* in this context.

*This uses QuickTime player objects and one cannot say that
QuickTime is optimized for Windows or vice versa ;-)

I made some test about 2 years ago to see how fast one could resize
large images in Rev. I timed the same actions for referenced images
and for players.

The test were made with OSX on a G4 with 1 Ghz and 1 GB RAM!

1. I set the filename of a Rev image/player
2. computed the correct proporional thumbnail size from the formatted  
dimensions

3. locked the screen and
4. resized the image/player

Dimensions are in pixels, times in milliseconds.
Thumbnail sizes show the max height/width.

Image dimensions: 2560*1920
Thumbnailsize: 60*60
Rev img: 1786
Player: 78

Image dimensions: 2560*1920
Thumbnailsize: 100*100
Rev img: 1822
Player: 85

Image dimensions: 2560*1920
Thumbnailsize: 150*150
Rev img: 1896
Player: 75

Image dimensions: 2560*1920
Thumbnailsize: 200*200
Rev img: 1822
Player: 79

Image dimensions: 2560*1920
Thumbnailsize: 300*300
Rev img: 1924
Player: 76

!
Image dimensions: 3440*2580
Thumbnailsize: 150*150
Rev img: 2991
Player: 74

Very impressive I think, hope some find it useful.


Best

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de


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Re: Text of an image

2008-09-05 Thread Klaus Major

Hi all,


Hi Ken and all,


The lockLoc of the second image must either be false OR the second
image must be the exact same size as the first image. Otherwise the
image/alphaData of the two images will not be the same.


Right. Here's a cheat sheet for those who care:  ;-)

the imageData of imgObj...
...


thanks a lot for this one, Ken, very useful info!


Mabe the following is of some interest for Mac users* in this context.
...
...


OK, to be fair I should make test again with Rev 3.0 :-)
And sure will do on the weekend!


Best

Klaus Major
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Re: Text of an image

2008-09-05 Thread David Bovill
Interesting Klaus - I'd got into a bit of a habit of using Players often
instead of image controls - partly because you can display a wider range of
media - and well what's the difference?

In fact given you figures it would seem that there are the only reasons not
to use a player would be:

   1. Quicktime is not installed
   2. You don't want the media in external files

Or are there other reasons?
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Re: stsMLXEditor, Notepad, Vista, Rev 3

2008-09-05 Thread Bernard Devlin
Just to let you know, I tried stsMLXEditor on Rev 2.9 and I see the same
behaviour.  I know your very busy atm, so I tried to debug it myself, but it
looks like your plugin is tricky to debug - it doesn't want to work if the
Rev script editor is open, so I'm not sure how to go about debugging it.  If
you can let me know the technique, I'll look into it for you and see if I
can solve it.

Bernard

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Bernard Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Ken.  Your remarks mean my interpretation of how it should work was
 not off-the-mark.  I like the new Rev 3 editor and the GLX2 editor, but on a
 9 inch screen it's going to be really hard to manage an IDE without finding
 some way to de-clutter things.  I may even have to learn to use MetaCard IDE
 (I've got a license for that somewhere).

 Bernard

 On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well, it *should* work properly, but I'll test it and let you know what I
 uncover.

 Ken Ray
 Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: how to determine how many parameters in commandline

2008-09-05 Thread runrev260805
Hi,

i tested it now with answer files to let the user select the jpeg-files, 
which shall get the watermark.

I have choosen 100 files at answer files dialog and the program saves the 
snapshots successfull. But if i move
an other Window e.g. Explorer or whatever over the stack window, then all 
snapshots have parts of that overlaying windows in it, and not the jpeg.

So i thought setting the stacks systemwindow property to true would avoid this.

But when i move another window while the app is running and converting the 
jpegs, the whole pc freezes. No keyboard input, no CTRL-ALT-DEL or whatever 
works anymore. I can only poweroff the pc.

Any suggestions?

Regards,

Matthias






 Original Message 
Subject: how to determine how many parameters in commandline (05-Sep-2008 18:00)
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,
 
 how can i determine how many parameters ($0.$1,$2,$3...) were in a 
 commandline.
 
 And is there a limitation in the count of the commandline parameters?
 
 I need this to allow the customer to drag several files onto a shortcut of 
 a rev app (under windows).
 The filenames are automatically put each into one commandline variable. But 
 how can i find out how much files/variables these are?
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
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Re: semi-OT: can Rev pre-populate data on a web form?

2008-09-05 Thread Jim Ault
Ben is right on the mark with the 'submit a form' directly from Rev, but one
caveat may be that your website setup software may be using a pre-fab
browser detection script for maximum platform compatibility.  If this is the
case, Revolution will not look like any of the browsers, like FireFox,
Safari, Explorer and it may simply ignore your form submission.

There are ways to deal with this, so post a message if Ben's advice does not
work out.  The browser detection is often done with javascript between the
header tags.  The browser detection is important for Flash content.

Hope your form goes smoothly

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On 9/5/08 2:28 AM, Ben Rubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chris Sheffield wrote:
 So my main question is, can Rev send data to a web form like this in
 such a way that whatever fields we specify will be populated when the
 browser/form opens? Not sure if something like this is even possible. I
 haven't done enough web development to know. Is some special JavaScript
 required to accomplish this? In thinking this through a little more, if
 we have a web form that's already set up to send an email, can't I take
 advantage of that in Rev by creating my own form and then sending the
 data straight to the cgi behind the form? Once again, I haven't done
 much web dev, so I may not even know what I'm talking about. :-)
 
 If anyone can help or can offer any other suggestions for how to
 accomplish something similar, it'd be much appreciated.
 
 
 If I've understood your request correctly, you really want a Rev stack to
 collect some information from the user, and have it arrive at your server in
 the form of an email.  There's a simple way to get what you want, I think.
 
 Using the SMTP libraries should make this possible, but has some issues, in
 particular your rev stack then needs to know the address of a mail server it
 can use from within the user's network to send email.  But if you have a web
 form on your server that's successfully sending email where you want it,
 there's no need to open a user's browser to view it.  Instead, Rev can
 effectively be that web form.
 
 (Apologies if what follows is teaching my granny to suck eggs.) If you look at
 the source of the web page, it will contain a form element with an action
 and a method.  The action is the address of a server-side resource (a script
 etc) which receives the values entered into the form and processes it, in this
 case by sending an email.  The method is either POST or GET.  If it's GET,
 then the resource expects the values in the URL string, eg if I fill in this
 simple form
 
 form method=GET action=formmail.cgi
 input name=first type=text
 input name=last type=text
 input type=submit /
 /form
 
 my browser will next fetch a URL like this:
./formmail.cgi?first=Benlast=Rubinstein
 
 (the first part of the URL being constructed based on the URL of the page
 holding the form, adjusted by the 'action' of the form.)
 
 Lecture over; the point is that executing
 
 put ./formmail.cgi?first=Benlast=Rubinstein into tURL
 get URL tURL
 
 or perhaps more likely
 put ./formmail.cgi into tScriptURL
 put tScriptURL \
   ?first=  tFirstName \
 last=  tLastName \
into tURL
 get URL tURL
 
 
 
 in your Rev stack will have exactly* the same effect on the 'formmail.cgi'
 resource as the user entering those details into their browser.  At this point
 Rev is acting like a browser, making a request of the web server.  So no need
 to open an actual browser.
 
 If the form uses the POST method instead, then it's only slightly more
 complicated.  Instead of get URL, you need to use the post command, which
 will look something more like this:
 
 put libURLformData(first, tFirstName, last, tLastName) into tData
 post tData to tScriptURL
 
 There will be a few complications along the way; you should read the
 (splending new in 3.0) docs, check out functions like URLencode, and above
 all, test.  But either way, given that you have the web form already, this is
 probably the simplest route to achieve what you want.
 
 HTH,
 
 - Ben
 
 
 *pedants please leave now
 
 
 
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Re-2: how to determine how many parameters in commandline

2008-09-05 Thread runrev260805
Hi Mark,

found out what you meant. 

But could it be that there are no more than 9 commandline parameters possible?

If i drag 20 jpeg files onto the link of my app, only 10 jpegs are processed.

Regards,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: how to determine how many parameters in commandline (05-Sep-2008 
18:45)
From:Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Matthias,
 
 put $#
 
 --
 Best regards,
 
 Mark Schonewille
 
 Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
 http://economy-x-talk.com
 http://www.salery.biz
 http://facebook.economy-x-talk.com
 
 Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.
 com/server.html 
   for more info.
 
 On 5 sep 2008, at 17:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  how can i determine how many parameters ($0.$1,$2,$3...) were in a  
  commandline.
 
  And is there a limitation in the count of the commandline parameters?
 
  I need this to allow the customer to drag several files onto a  
  shortcut of a rev app (under windows).
  The filenames are automatically put each into one commandline  
  variable. But how can i find out how much files/variables these are?
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Matthias
 
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Re-3: put visible watermark onto a jpg with rev ?

2008-09-05 Thread runrev260805
Posted under wrong topic.
Now under the correct one. Please excuse

Hi,

i tested it now with answer files under vista to let the user select the 
jpeg-files, which shall get the watermark.

I have choosen 100 files at answer files dialog and the program saves the 
snapshots successfull. But if i move
an other Window e.g. Explorer or whatever over the stack window, then all 
snapshots have parts of that overlaying windows in it, and not the jpeg.

So i thought setting the stacks systemwindow property to true would avoid this.

But when i move another window while the app is running and converting the 
jpegs, the whole pc freezes. No keyboard input, no CTRL-ALT-DEL or whatever 
works anymore. I can only poweroff the pc.

Any suggestions?

Regards,

Matthias

 Original Message 
Subject: Re-2: put visible watermark onto a jpg with rev ? (05-Sep-2008 18:00)
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks Chip,
 
 that was exactly what i was looking for.
 
 Matthias
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: put visible watermark onto a jpg with rev ? (04-Sep-2008 23:13)
 
 From:Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Sure,
  Just overlay your PNG (w/Alpha) watermark, then export snapshot as a JPEG.
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Re: Re-3: put visible watermark onto a jpg with rev ?

2008-09-05 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Matthias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 i tested it now with answer files under vista to let the user
 select the jpeg-files, which shall get the watermark.

 I have choosen 100 files at answer files dialog and the program
 saves the snapshots successfull. But if i move
 an other Window e.g. Explorer or whatever over the stack window,
 then all snapshots have parts of that overlaying windows in it,
 and not the jpeg.

 So i thought setting the stacks systemwindow property to true
 would avoid this.

 But when i move another window while the app is running and
 converting the jpegs, the whole pc freezes. No keyboard input, no
 CTRL-ALT-DEL or whatever works anymore. I can only poweroff the pc.

 Any suggestions?

 Regards,

 Matthias

I would suggest:

hide this stack
-- do my jpeg loop
show this stack

or possibly have it positioned off-screen.

To reduce cpu cycles, you need to insert a wait 200 millisecs in the loop.
That should help with the freezing.

Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: rev online

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Brigham
Well, that's what *seemed* to be the thing to do, but the problem is  
that I don't have any stacks listed in that field at the bottom of  
the My Space panel -- it's empty, so I can't hilite any line. Am I  
supposed to do something to get that field populated with (I guess) a  
list of open stacks? Screenshot at:


http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig/myspace.jpg

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:23:38, -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Have your stack open and then access Rev Online.  Go to your my space
and that little message explains how to do it.  It is so simple I  
always get it

screwed up too.  Here are the details:

To share a stack, simply make sure it is selected (that means
selected in your my space file thus it is the line that is hilited)  
and choose
share this stack from the Rev file menu while your stack is open.   
Please note
if you want to easily update this stack you need to Save it from  
your Rev file
menu immediately after you share it.  Then you can just update if  
you do

not do that and you want to make a change to your stack and post it on
RevOnline you need to delete if from Rev OnLIne and use the above to
repost it like you did the first time.

-=JB=-


and then


Maybe it worked and you didn't see it.  Select the stack in your Rev
Online my space and then click on the Go to button.  If it worked  
the stack will open.
That means was properly saved by Rev Online but you just can't find  
it.  It will be saved in
the category you chose for it but it could be anywhere in the list  
when you view the stacks
for that category.  The last time I put a stack on there it was  
saved near the bottom and
then when I deleted it to upload the updated stack it was saved in  
the same place.  Then
because I forgot to save it the first time it was put on Rev Online  
and wanted to make a
minor change and put it on Rev Online I had to delete it again.   
This time that stack
I shared online was put near the middle of the category.  So it  
could be anywhere in the

category you selected when you shared it online.


It's not listed anywhere in the General category, where I supposedly  
posted it.



On Sep 4, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Peter Brigham wrote:


Well, after all this time using Rev I'm finally trying to put some
of my stacks into my user space in Rev Online, and I can't for the
life of me figure out how to do it. I *think* the procedure is:
open the stack, select share this stack from the file menu,
select the category, enter the name of the stack and a description,
then click upload -- but when I do this, nothing seems to happen.
My stack doesn't appear in what I presume to be the list of my
shared stacks in the bottom field of My Space, and it doesn't
appear in the lists of user stacks to browse either. What am I
missing?

I must say, some built-in instructions on uploading a stack to be
shared on Rev Online would be very helpful. There is no help text
associated with Rev Online, and I can't find any info on this
anywhere else I've looked The user manual comes up blank.
Clearly I'm missing something, and once someone tells me how to do
this, I'm sure it will be obvious, but a well designed app
shouldn't leave the user this much at sea, I think.

An otherwise quite satisfied amateur,

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS: just tried out 3.0, seems pretty good. Looking forward to using
multidimensional arrays Not sure yet about the script editor.


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Re: stsMLXEditor, Notepad, Vista, Rev 3

2008-09-05 Thread Ken Ray



 My problem is that in trying to just test how the latest version (from Ken's
 site) of stsMLXEditor works on Vista with Notepad, the 'test' button opens
 Notepad with the script in it, but when I save the script and exit Notepad,
 and then re-open the script again, the changes are not there.  Am I
 misunderstanding how it is supposed to work, or is something weird happening
 in my situation? (Maybe something has changed with Rev 3).

There's definitely something up with Rev 3 on Vista related to stsMLXEditor,
but it's going to take me a little while to track it down. I should have an
answer over the weekend.

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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[ANN] beta release of altXray plugin for Rev 3.0

2008-09-05 Thread Chipp Walters
Just want to share a tool I've worked on to help make 3.0's script editor
work better for me.
altXray is a plugin for Rev 3.0. It works best with altPlugin Toolbar.
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altPluginCover/About.htm

It helps Rev in a number of ways:

Outside Script Editor
- Shows the name of the control the mouse is hovering over
- Ctrl-Alt edits the script of the control the mouse is hovering over
- Shift-Ctrl-Alt edits the properties of the control the mouse is hovering
over
- Ctrl-Alt over the stack Titlebar edits the script of the stack
- Ctrl-Alt over the very right of the Titlebar edits the script of the card

Inside Script Editor
- Right click on function or handler name in a script jumps to the function
or handler within the message hierarchy-- opening up script tabs if
necessary. This is very useful if you use script libraries.

It's pretty simple, does NOT change anything in Rev and can be turned on or
off by clicking a checkbox in the small palette.
Option clicking altXray puts it (floating) in the main Rev toolbar (WinXP)
or just docs in on Mac.

This has not yet been tested much on a Mac, so feedback would be helpful.

To install is, just type into the message box:

go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altXray.rev;
then immediately save to your altPlugins folder.

Next refresh your altplugins toolbar (click the small blue arrow on the top)

If you don't have the altplugins toolbar, you can put it in the regular
plugins menu, but make sure it opens as a palette (or alt-click it after
opening it, which will also palette it.)

Like most all of our plugins, this is not a *supported* plugin. Use at your
own risk!

Note: if you use GLX2, then none of this is necessary as all these features
and much, much more are available in GLX2.
http://daniels-mara.com/glx2/

-Chipp
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Re: rev online

2008-09-05 Thread -= JB =-

I just tried it and what I told you was wrong.

You have your stack open in Rev.  Go to Rev Online to your myspace.
Select share from the file menu and this will take you to another window
in your myspace that will allow you to select the category, give it a  
name
and enter a description of the stack.  At the bottom click the button  
which

I think is named update.

That will list your stack in the field at the bottom.  If you ever  
want to update
the stack without deleting save it from your file menu immediately.   
Then

when you want to update you select it in the field I mentioned before.

If you do not go to the screen I described after sharing it from the  
file

menu it seems you have a problem and need to contact Rev about it.

-=JB=-
On Sep 5, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Peter Brigham wrote:

Well, that's what *seemed* to be the thing to do, but the problem  
is that I don't have any stacks listed in that field at the bottom  
of the My Space panel -- it's empty, so I can't hilite any line.  
Am I supposed to do something to get that field populated with (I  
guess) a list of open stacks? Screenshot at:


http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig/myspace.jpg

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:23:38, -= JB =- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Have your stack open and then access Rev Online.  Go to your my space
and that little message explains how to do it.  It is so simple I  
always get it

screwed up too.  Here are the details:

To share a stack, simply make sure it is selected (that means
selected in your my space file thus it is the line that is  
hilited) and choose
share this stack from the Rev file menu while your stack is open.   
Please note
if you want to easily update this stack you need to Save it from  
your Rev file
menu immediately after you share it.  Then you can just update if  
you do
not do that and you want to make a change to your stack and post  
it on

RevOnline you need to delete if from Rev OnLIne and use the above to
repost it like you did the first time.

-=JB=-


and then


Maybe it worked and you didn't see it.  Select the stack in your Rev
Online my space and then click on the Go to button.  If it worked  
the stack will open.
That means was properly saved by Rev Online but you just can't  
find it.  It will be saved in
the category you chose for it but it could be anywhere in the list  
when you view the stacks
for that category.  The last time I put a stack on there it was  
saved near the bottom and
then when I deleted it to upload the updated stack it was saved in  
the same place.  Then
because I forgot to save it the first time it was put on Rev  
Online and wanted to make a
minor change and put it on Rev Online I had to delete it again.   
This time that stack
I shared online was put near the middle of the category.  So it  
could be anywhere in the

category you selected when you shared it online.


It's not listed anywhere in the General category, where I  
supposedly posted it.



On Sep 4, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Peter Brigham wrote:


Well, after all this time using Rev I'm finally trying to put some
of my stacks into my user space in Rev Online, and I can't for the
life of me figure out how to do it. I *think* the procedure is:
open the stack, select share this stack from the file menu,
select the category, enter the name of the stack and a description,
then click upload -- but when I do this, nothing seems to happen.
My stack doesn't appear in what I presume to be the list of my
shared stacks in the bottom field of My Space, and it doesn't
appear in the lists of user stacks to browse either. What am I
missing?

I must say, some built-in instructions on uploading a stack to be
shared on Rev Online would be very helpful. There is no help text
associated with Rev Online, and I can't find any info on this
anywhere else I've looked The user manual comes up blank.
Clearly I'm missing something, and once someone tells me how to do
this, I'm sure it will be obvious, but a well designed app
shouldn't leave the user this much at sea, I think.

An otherwise quite satisfied amateur,

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS: just tried out 3.0, seems pretty good. Looking forward to using
multidimensional arrays Not sure yet about the script editor.


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hScroll pixels

2008-09-05 Thread -= JB =-

I am working on a stack I have on Rev Online named Dynamic Table Field.
Recently I posted it was updated for automatic column resizing.

Now I have put some code in the mouseDown handler that allows you to
click on a column divider in the field and while the mouse is down  
drag the
mouse left or right  when you release the mouse it will resize the  
columns.


Everything is working fine except when the field is scrolled  
horizontally.  I
check the mouseloc and add the left field rect to check when I am  
clicking
on a column divider.  It is compared with the tabStop settings   
works good.
Then when I scroll horizontally I add the hScroll to the column  
divider pixel

info that was working fine until the field was scrolled.

When I click on the column divider before it is scrolled the cursor  
will turn
to the hand instead of the arrow.  After I scroll the field and  
correct it with
the hScroll pixels I can not click anywhere and make it turn to a  
hand.  It

would seem to me that even if my math was off I could eventually click 
get it to change the cursor but it won't.

Has anyone encountered any problems like this or know how to solve it?

thanks,
-=JB=-
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Re: Image File Picker

2008-09-05 Thread Jesse Sng



on OS X 10.5 you get an image preview in the Rev import dialogs!
Tested with Rev 2.9 and 3.0.
Regards

Klaus Major


Going back to my original question - none of this works when you use 
the ask file command to get the user to specify a file.


Does anybody have a stack or a solution where you can ask the user to 
specify a file and then be able to preview all the OS X graphics 
files that can be previewed from inside the file dialog window?


I'm not asking about importing files in the development environment 
but providing such an interface to the end user in my own app.


Thanks,


Jesse Sng
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Today's Topics

2008-09-05 Thread Ross Giddings

Wouldn't it be really convenient
if the items listed under
Today's Topics were links to
the relevant post?

Would save me lots of finger-fatigue
since some of them aren't relevant to
Win users. (Not that I'm anti-Mac.)

Ross
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Re: Today's Topics

2008-09-05 Thread Judy Perry
Ross,

What does this concern?

--Rev's web-based fora?
--Digest form of this Use-List?
--Jerry's new subscription thingy?

Sorry -- not understanding the problem.

Judy
--more demented than usual :-/

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Ross Giddings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wouldn't it be really convenient
 if the items listed under
 Today's Topics were links to
 the relevant post?

 Would save me lots of finger-fatigue
 since some of them aren't relevant to
 Win users. (Not that I'm anti-Mac.)

 Ross
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Re: Today's Topics

2008-09-05 Thread Phil Davis

Take a look at Jerry's Top Ten video - pretty slick tool he has there:

Analysis of this email list:
   http://www.revmentor.com/top-tens-public/
   Cool bar graphs with wry video commentary.


Phil Davis



Judy Perry wrote:

Ross,

What does this concern?

--Rev's web-based fora?
--Digest form of this Use-List?
--Jerry's new subscription thingy?

Sorry -- not understanding the problem.

Judy
--more demented than usual :-/

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Ross Giddings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Wouldn't it be really convenient
if the items listed under
Today's Topics were links to
the relevant post?

Would save me lots of finger-fatigue
since some of them aren't relevant to
Win users. (Not that I'm anti-Mac.)

Ross


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Re: Today's Topics

2008-09-05 Thread Judy Perry
So, yuppers, Jerry's thingy.

I'm thinking of subbing myself!

(Jerry's probably cringing)  ;-)

Judy

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Take a look at Jerry's Top Ten video - pretty slick tool he has there:

 Analysis of this email list:
   http://www.revmentor.com/top-tens-public/
   Cool bar graphs with wry video commentary.

 Phil Davis



 Judy Perry wrote:

 Ross,

 What does this concern?

 --Rev's web-based fora?
 --Digest form of this Use-List?
 --Jerry's new subscription thingy?

 Sorry -- not understanding the problem.

 Judy
 --more demented than usual :-/

 On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Ross Giddings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Wouldn't it be really convenient
 if the items listed under
 Today's Topics were links to
 the relevant post?

 Would save me lots of finger-fatigue
 since some of them aren't relevant to
 Win users. (Not that I'm anti-Mac.)

 Ross


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Re: Image File Picker

2008-09-05 Thread J. Landman Gay

Jesse Sng wrote:

Going back to my original question - none of this works when you use the 
ask file command to get the user to specify a file.


Does anybody have a stack or a solution where you can ask the user to 
specify a file and then be able to preview all the OS X graphics files 
that can be previewed from inside the file dialog window?


Rev just calls the operating system to display its standard file dialog. 
If the OS doesn't support previews in that dialog, there isn't much you 
can do. That's why it works automatically in Leopard (where this feature 
was added) but not in Tiger. It works in Windows if the user sets the 
view to thumbnail, but of course the developer has no control over that.


I suppose one could write an external to do it.

--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Image File Picker

2008-09-05 Thread Stephen Barncard
Or one could roll their own Ask Dialog in Rev... which would require 
a recursive directory walker handler.


These can be designed for remote or local directories.

Several approaches and some examples are in the list archives. I've 
seen a few that came close to working and looking like system 
dialogs. Another possibility that opens up when you make your own is 
that the listing could be a tree with disclosure triangles.




Jesse Sng wrote:

Going back to my original question - none of this works when you 
use the ask file command to get the user to specify a file.


Does anybody have a stack or a solution where you can ask the user 
to specify a file and then be able to preview all the OS X graphics 
files that can be previewed from inside the file dialog window?


Rev just calls the operating system to display its standard file 
dialog. If the OS doesn't support previews in that dialog, there 
isn't much you can do. That's why it works automatically in Leopard 
(where this feature was added) but not in Tiger. It works in Windows 
if the user sets the view to thumbnail, but of course the 
developer has no control over that.


I suppose one could write an external to do it.

--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com


--


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