Re: Stack opens behind Windows desktop

2008-09-08 Thread Horst

Holá Jacqueline,

Yes we have same problem here, no idea, why and thought, it would be a
spanish problem :-) 
Working with Win 2000, Win XP and RR 2.9 

Ho finds a solution will be my hero!

best regards

Horst


J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 Odd Windows problem, that happens inconsistently: A standalone's 
 mainstack has its decorations set to empty and is sized to the 
 windowboundingrect. On launch, or sometimes when maximizing from the 
 task bar, the stack window opens invisibly. One person described it as 
 being behind the desktop. It can sometimes be brought back to view by 
 pressing the Windows key on the keyboard, and when that key is released 
 the stack pops back into view where it belongs.
 
 I've tried forcing it by specifically issuing the toplevel command and 
 the show command on both openstack and uniconifystack. The client says 
 it still sometimes fails to display. I've seen it happen only once, on 
 launch, and couldn't reproduce it again. It never happens in the IDE. 
 The stack is never made invisible or hidden; only its iconic is changed.
 
 This happens only on Windows, the Mac version goes to and from the dock 
 without any problem. Has anyone seen this?
 
 -- 
 Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Stack opens behind Windows desktop

2008-09-08 Thread Chipp Walters
Jacque,
Are you minimizing it with it's decorations set to empty? I think I remember
the same issue and I always set the decorations to default, then minimized,
then trapped the message when maximizing and reset them to empty. You might
try it.
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Re: lost features scripteditor 3.0

2008-09-08 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You might try the following technique for debugging user controls and key
 presses.  One advantage to this is that you can debug-step  change the
 state of the globals using the variable watcher, thus always control those
 values.

 global gMseDn, gCntrlDn, gAltOptDn, gCmdDn, gShftDn

 on mouseDown
put 1 into gMseDn

 [snip]


I routinely do something similar with many of (what I would call) the object
model properties , e.g

puf the mouseLoc into tMouseLoc
or
put the long name of the target into tTargetLongName

I've found that code can get really confusing if the debugger starts and I'm
referring to the values by function name, as the value returned can change
to represent values that pertain to the debugger as an application rather
than to my application.

I find it's better to just grab the values from the application context
asap, then if later on I need to debug that handler (maybe for something
completely different), I don't get thrown off track by such object model
properties containing values from the context of the debugger.  I then
breakpoint after I've got hold of those values before the debugging sesssion
begins.

Bernard
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OT: Software License Manager

2008-09-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello,

I am thinking about switching from hardware copy protection to a licensing
system.

Which licensing manger tools do you use, are there any recommendations?
Which are easy to implement in Rev? Which have the less maintenance in use
and are reliable and stable? Are there any free ones?

Any experiences welcome

Tiemo

 

 

 

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Re: AW: Software License Manager

2008-09-08 Thread Malte Brill

Hi Tiemo,

I guess everyone has a different take on this and there are quite a  
few options. I will for sure not claim completeness in this email,  
nor will I claim to be right in any point I make. :)


I think it is important not to be paranoid about piracy. There will  
always be the cheapstakes that will try to get everything for free.  
Those will never be your customers. They just won't. If they can not  
get it for free, they will search for something different. I don´t  
think these people is what I need to care about. If I use something  
sophisticated to protect my work, I only risk to challenge someone  
to get around my protection scheme. And if they try, they will get  
around it. Using 3rd party technology like wrappers around your  
application only increases the likelyhood that a cracker has it  
easier to get around the protection. If the protection technology is  
cracked for any other application, it will be fairly easy to get  
around it for MY app. too if it is protected using the same  
technology. I would only considder a wrapper option, if I used a  
payment processor with an affiliate system, that stores data in the  
wrapper to pay out my affiliates (custom builts)


IMHO it is important to make it easy enough for a person that is  
willing to open the wallet to do so. And leave them with a Yes, it  
was worth to pay for it feeling. This is not only about the  
techology you use to protect your work, but also about the experience  
in buying it. Depending on the kind of application you develop and  
the way you deliver to your users, you have different options, which  
can leave your users with a positive feeling about your software or  
mildly to terribly annoyed.


If you deliver on a disc, you might require the disc to remain in the  
drive, which I would not like to use. I would prefer all the stuff  
installed on my HD or if I need to save space, have the option to run  
of the Disc.
If you deliver download versions you might go the timeout or the  
crippleware approach. A timeout can be based on a date xyz days after  
install, a given time of actual use or a number of launches, while a  
crippled version would become only fully functional after the app has  
been purchased. Both approaches require the user to enter an unlock  
code that he has to purchase from you. For different types of  
programs, different approaches might be the best fit. These methods  
require that you store some information in a sensible place on the  
users machine. So you would need to take care that the file is not  
too easy to find if you go with a timed copy. If you store the key  
for a crippled application, that would be less important, as it would  
not make sense to delete the unlock code and thus reverting the  
programm to demo mode. You have the option to call home, to check if  
the key they are trying to use has been stolen, but I do prefer not  
to. I do not trust apps that call home, why should anyone else?


It is important to make the entering of the key as easy as possible  
(I learned that the hard way). Give an option to paste from clipboard  
and strip all whitespace before and after. Prompt the user if the  
stuff pasted is wrong (multiple lines for example) Nothing is more  
frustrating when you try to enter your user data and it is too  
complicated. If this works in your app, it is important to make it as  
easy as possible for your customer to pay you. If you have to click  
more than twice on your homepage  to buy your product they might have  
lost interest already. If you use an online payment processor make  
sure to send out the registration immediately. Here is how I do it in  
my games:


Game times out after an hour playtime. It has an unlock code checker  
and links to the order now page on my website. Payment is handled by  
PAYPAL (I know, i know) Once purchase is done PAYPAL sends a so  
called instant payment notification to my server. A PHP script  
receives the IPN and extracts the relevant purchase data from the  
IPN. The script then generates an unlock code that the checker in the  
game will parse. This code is sent by email and displays the unlock  
code to the user. The whole process is (hopefully) convenient for the  
buyer, but also saves me a heap of work, as I do no longer need to  
generate unlock codes by hand.


2 euro cents.

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Dynamic Table Field - bug fixed

2008-09-08 Thread -= JB =-

I fixed a bug in the doubleMouseDown in the handler that is
called when the shifKey is held down.  It was uploaded to
Rev On-line.  It isn't perfect but it is a lot better.

-=JB=-
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Re: only 9 parameters possible in rev standalone commandline

2008-09-08 Thread runrev260805
Hi,

am i the only one who is using rev standalones with commandline parameters?

Regards,

Matthias

 Original Message 
Subject: only 9  parameters possible in rev standalone commandline (06-Sep-2008 
23:31)
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,
  
 it seems, that only 9 parameters are passed to runrev standalone at the 
 commandline. 
 I tried to pass 11 parameters to the standalone, but only 9 are recognized 
 by the standalone.
  
 I checked the documentation, but there is no such limitation mentioned.
  
 Can someone confirm?
  
  
 Regards,
  
 Matthias
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Re: AW: Software License Manager

2008-09-08 Thread Ian Wood


On 8 Sep 2008, at 11:27, Malte Brill wrote:

It is important to make the entering of the key as easy as possible  
(I learned that the hard way). Give an option to paste from  
clipboard and strip all whitespace before and after. Prompt the user  
if the stuff pasted is wrong (multiple lines for example) Nothing is  
more frustrating when you try to enter your user data and it is too  
complicated.


I went a step further than this with Aperture Assistant - the user  
copies the entire registration email, then the 'Paste From Clipboard'  
button parses out the details.


It has an unlock code checker and links to the order now page on my  
website. Payment is handled by PAYPAL (I know, i know) Once purchase  
is done PAYPAL sends a so called instant payment notification to my  
server. A PHP script receives the IPN and extracts the relevant  
purchase data from the IPN. The script then generates an unlock code  
that the checker in the game will parse. This code is sent by email  
and displays the unlock code to the user. The whole process is  
(hopefully) convenient for the buyer, but also saves me a heap of  
work, as I do no longer need to generate unlock codes by hand.


I do something roughly similar, but as I don't know enough PHP I set  
up an old PowerBook plus a Rev app that checks all the emails in a  
certain folder in Mail, generates codes and sends out registration  
emails.
Mail on that computer doesn't do anything but deal with registrations,  
and it's only gone down once in almost a year. ;-)


I just need to look at something similar using Kagi or someone, as  
there have been a couple of enquiries by people who didn't want to use  
PayPal.


Ian
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download limits - Rev CGI?

2008-09-08 Thread Jim Sims
I want to set a limit to the number of times a text file(s) can be  
downloaded.


Example, say I have a group of 100 people eligible to download a file
(put url http://www.somebody.com/hamburger.txt; ) with a Rev app.
I only want the first fifty to be able to get the file, anyone that
tries after that would be told Sorry, snooze and you lose.

I might want to be able to set up many such limited situations
at the same time (different files available for different groups).

I've not done any Rev CGI 'stuff', is this the sort of thing that
could be done with Rev CGI?

sims
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Dynamic Table Field - fixed again

2008-09-08 Thread -= JB =-

I figured out one more small math problem in the mouseDoubleDown
handler that is accessed when the shiftKey is held down.  Now I think
it is working properly.

-=JB=-
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Re: [FYI] WEBKIT

2008-09-08 Thread David Bovill
It's a little confusing. I've been trying to figure out the details, as its
also relevant to how revBrowser works - particularly with things like
plugins for Safari. This is the question I've asked on the WebKit forums:

 As the WebKit.app nightly build and Safari are both based on the Webkit
framework - how exactly does this work. My guess is that the nightly build
uses a more recnet framework bundled in the OSX package, and Safari uses the
a framework buried somewhere in the system/library?

2008/9/7 Colin Holgate [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote:

  The DEVELOP menu is hidden when first installed, but can be turned on in
 preferences -- advanced


 Do you know that it's in Safari too?


I'm trying to figure out which WebKit framework revBrowser uses, and
therefore how it interacts with upgrades, and installation of Safari
plugins.
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Re: download limits - Rev CGI?

2008-09-08 Thread Klaus Major

Hi sims,

I want to set a limit to the number of times a text file(s) can be  
downloaded.


Example, say I have a group of 100 people eligible to download a file
(put url http://www.somebody.com/hamburger.txt; ) with a Rev app.
I only want the first fifty to be able to get the file, anyone that
tries after that would be told Sorry, snooze and you lose.

I might want to be able to set up many such limited situations
at the same time (different files available for different groups).

I've not done any Rev CGI 'stuff', is this the sort of thing that
could be done with Rev CGI?


Yes, of course!

Just check/write a simple textfile(s) with a counter when your CGI  
starts.



sims


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de


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AW: AW: Software License Manager

2008-09-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Malte,
thank you, very nice to let us take part on your corporate thinking about
licensing models. I agree that the licensing process should be max easy and
smooth for the user and with minimum effort for me. And it must not be the
ultimate solution. That's why I used to use hardware copy protection, but
it's very inflexible if you start thinking about network licences, etc.
Going on researching :)
Tiemo

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Malte Brill
 Gesendet: Montag, 8. September 2008 12:27
 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Betreff: Re: AW: Software License Manager
 
 Hi Tiemo,
 
 I guess everyone has a different take on this and there are quite a
 few options. I will for sure not claim completeness in this email,
 nor will I claim to be right in any point I make. :)
 
 I think it is important not to be paranoid about piracy. There will
 always be the cheapstakes that will try to get everything for free.
 Those will never be your customers. They just won't. If they can not
 get it for free, they will search for something different. I don´t
 think these people is what I need to care about. If I use something
 sophisticated to protect my work, I only risk to challenge someone
 to get around my protection scheme. And if they try, they will get
 around it. Using 3rd party technology like wrappers around your
 application only increases the likelyhood that a cracker has it
 easier to get around the protection. If the protection technology is
 cracked for any other application, it will be fairly easy to get
 around it for MY app. too if it is protected using the same
 technology. I would only considder a wrapper option, if I used a
 payment processor with an affiliate system, that stores data in the
 wrapper to pay out my affiliates (custom builts)
 
 IMHO it is important to make it easy enough for a person that is
 willing to open the wallet to do so. And leave them with a Yes, it
 was worth to pay for it feeling. This is not only about the
 techology you use to protect your work, but also about the experience
 in buying it. Depending on the kind of application you develop and
 the way you deliver to your users, you have different options, which
 can leave your users with a positive feeling about your software or
 mildly to terribly annoyed.
 
 If you deliver on a disc, you might require the disc to remain in the
 drive, which I would not like to use. I would prefer all the stuff
 installed on my HD or if I need to save space, have the option to run
 of the Disc.
 If you deliver download versions you might go the timeout or the
 crippleware approach. A timeout can be based on a date xyz days after
 install, a given time of actual use or a number of launches, while a
 crippled version would become only fully functional after the app has
 been purchased. Both approaches require the user to enter an unlock
 code that he has to purchase from you. For different types of
 programs, different approaches might be the best fit. These methods
 require that you store some information in a sensible place on the
 users machine. So you would need to take care that the file is not
 too easy to find if you go with a timed copy. If you store the key
 for a crippled application, that would be less important, as it would
 not make sense to delete the unlock code and thus reverting the
 programm to demo mode. You have the option to call home, to check if
 the key they are trying to use has been stolen, but I do prefer not
 to. I do not trust apps that call home, why should anyone else?
 
 It is important to make the entering of the key as easy as possible
 (I learned that the hard way). Give an option to paste from clipboard
 and strip all whitespace before and after. Prompt the user if the
 stuff pasted is wrong (multiple lines for example) Nothing is more
 frustrating when you try to enter your user data and it is too
 complicated. If this works in your app, it is important to make it as
 easy as possible for your customer to pay you. If you have to click
 more than twice on your homepage  to buy your product they might have
 lost interest already. If you use an online payment processor make
 sure to send out the registration immediately. Here is how I do it in
 my games:
 
 Game times out after an hour playtime. It has an unlock code checker
 and links to the order now page on my website. Payment is handled by
 PAYPAL (I know, i know) Once purchase is done PAYPAL sends a so
 called instant payment notification to my server. A PHP script
 receives the IPN and extracts the relevant purchase data from the
 IPN. The script then generates an unlock code that the checker in the
 game will parse. This code is sent by email and displays the unlock
 code to the user. The whole process is (hopefully) convenient for the
 buyer, but also saves me a heap of work, as I do no longer need to
 generate unlock codes by hand.
 
 2 euro cents.
 
 

AW: Software License Manager

2008-09-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
I have to add, that I for sure don't want to know, HOW you do it (as
discussed before), just if you have any recommendations of WHAT tools do you
use or have tested. I have searched the net and did found yet only licensing
systems which have to be bind with dll, active-x or other windows specific
technics into my software, but didn't find yet a solution, with an API,
which I could talk to from rev on win and Mac OS X. The licensing  key
maintenance tool should be available for Win
Thanks
Tiemo


 Hello,
 
 I am thinking about switching from hardware copy protection to a licensing
 system.
 
 Which licensing manger tools do you use, are there any recommendations?
 Which are easy to implement in Rev? Which have the less maintenance in use
 and are reliable and stable? Are there any free ones?
 
 Any experiences welcome
 
 Tiemo
 

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Re: download limits - Rev CGI?

2008-09-08 Thread Klaus Major

Hi sims,


Hi sims,

I want to set a limit to the number of times a text file(s) can be  
downloaded.


Example, say I have a group of 100 people eligible to download a file
(put url http://www.somebody.com/hamburger.txt; ) with a Rev app.
I only want the first fifty to be able to get the file, anyone that
tries after that would be told Sorry, snooze and you lose.

I might want to be able to set up many such limited situations
at the same time (different files available for different groups).

I've not done any Rev CGI 'stuff', is this the sort of thing that
could be done with Rev CGI?


Yes, of course!

Just check/write a simple textfile(s) with a counter when your CGI  
starts.


looks I was a bit too fast!

The query
put url http://www.somebody.com/hamburger.txt; into whatever
will be handled by the webserver running at www.somebody.com but not  
by your CGI!


In that case you will have to script your CGI script to return that  
namely file and you will have to:
put url http://www.somebody.com/cgi_that_delivers_the_file_hamburger;  
into whatever

and check $QUERY_STRING in your CGI(s)

Anyway, it is possible :-)


sims


Regard


Best

Klaus Major
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Re: only 9 parameters possible in rev standalone commandline

2008-09-08 Thread Ben Rubinstein

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

am i the only one who is using rev standalones with commandline parameters?


No, I know of at least one other (me).  But I've never tried using it with 
more than two; you might be the only using rev standalones with more than nine.


- Ben

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Re: only 9 parameters possible in rev standalone commandline

2008-09-08 Thread René Micout

Bonjour,
I have this handler (first line) :

on jouerAccord  
suivant,nbrdeSons,laNote,transpo,timbre,nDurée,vélocité,typeAccord,nJeuA 
ccord,étatduFlux


with 10 parameters. It work good !
In GLX2 the 9 first parameters are in alphabetical classment
but the last (10th) [étatduFlux] is after the 9th [vélocité]
But all work very well
Bons souvenirs de Paris
René

Le 8 sept. 08 à 15:51, Ben Rubinstein a écrit :


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
am i the only one who is using rev standalones with commandline  
parameters?


No, I know of at least one other (me).  But I've never tried using  
it with more than two; you might be the only using rev standalones  
with more than nine.


- Ben

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Re: download limits - Rev CGI?

2008-09-08 Thread Jim Ault
Yes, this is possible and a typical use of a web server.

Using PHP, this is the same as a visitor counter where the value is written
to a text file.  A Rev-cgi can do the same thing.

Even better for you might be that each download is written to a log file
showing details you would like to keep such as date, time, elapsed time, IP
address, query string, success.

Here is a tutorial on using text files to track a visitor count
  http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/scripts2.html
courtesy of Jacqueline Landman Gay

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 9/8/08 5:19 AM, Jim Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to set a limit to the number of times a text file(s) can be
 downloaded.
 
 Example, say I have a group of 100 people eligible to download a file
 (put url http://www.somebody.com/hamburger.txt; ) with a Rev app.
 I only want the first fifty to be able to get the file, anyone that
 tries after that would be told Sorry, snooze and you lose.
 
 I might want to be able to set up many such limited situations
 at the same time (different files available for different groups).
 
 I've not done any Rev CGI 'stuff', is this the sort of thing that
 could be done with Rev CGI?
 
 sims


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Re: download limits - Rev CGI?

2008-09-08 Thread Jim Sims


On Sep 8, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Jim Ault wrote:


Yes, this is possible and a typical use of a web server.


snip


Here is a tutorial on using text files to track a visitor count
 http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/scripts2.html
courtesy of Jacqueline Landman Gay


also

The Famous Klaus Major (International star of stage  screen) wrote:
In that case you will have to script your CGI script to return that  
namely file and you will have to:
put url http://www.somebody.com/ 
cgi_that_delivers_the_file_hamburger into whatever

and check $QUERY_STRING in your CGI(s)



Hey Thanks!   :-)

I've got Andre's revHTTP stacks open here (local) and am having fun.

sims



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Re: Stack opens behind Windows desktop

2008-09-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Chipp Walters wrote:

Jacque,
Are you minimizing it with it's decorations set to empty? I think I remember
the same issue and I always set the decorations to default, then minimized,
then trapped the message when maximizing and reset them to empty. You might
try it.


Yes, I'm doing that -- mostly because a window without any decorations 
won't minimize at all. But since it also happened once on startup (where 
decorations would have been saved as empty in the mainstack) I'm 
thinking something else is going on. Thanks for answering though, any 
feedback at all is welcome.


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Dynamic Table Field - fixed doubleclick bug

2008-09-08 Thread -= JB =-

I finally figured out how to fix the bug that collapsed the column when
the user double clicked on the divider line and have corrected it.  The
update has been uploaded to Rev On-line.

Everything should work excellent now.  That was the last problem I
know about so if anyone finds more bugs please let me know.  I have
tested it very good already.

-=JB=-
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Re-2: only 9 parameters possible in rev standalone commandline

2008-09-08 Thread runrev260805
Eric,

i meant parameters, that are passed to the standalone application in a 
commandline.

Regards,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: only 9  parameters possible in rev standalone commandline 
(08-Sep-2008 17:02)
From:René Micout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Bonjour,
 I have this handler (first line) :
 
 on jouerAccord  
 suivant,nbrdeSons,laNote,transpo,timbre,nDurée,vélocité,typeAccord,nJeuA 
 ccord,étatduFlux
 
 with 10 parameters. It work good !
 In GLX2 the 9 first parameters are in alphabetical classment
 but the last (10th) [étatduFlux] is after the 9th [vélocité]
 But all work very well
 Bons souvenirs de Paris
 René
 
 Le 8 sept. 08 à 15:51, Ben Rubinstein a écrit :
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  am i the only one who is using rev standalones with commandline  
  parameters?
 
  No, I know of at least one other (me).  But I've never tried using  
  it with more than two; you might be the only using rev standalones  
  with more than nine.
 
  - Ben
 
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Re: Dynamic Table Field - fixed doubleclick bug

2008-09-08 Thread -= JB =-

Just a note to let you know that even though I have fixed the bug the
feature to double click to to the left of the divider line and  
collapse a
column is still included.  But now it works properly using a script  
in the

mouseDoubleDown handler.

-=JB=-



On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:15 AM, -= JB =- wrote:

I finally figured out how to fix the bug that collapsed the column  
when
the user double clicked on the divider line and have corrected it.   
The

update has been uploaded to Rev On-line.

Everything should work excellent now.  That was the last problem I
know about so if anyone finds more bugs please let me know.  I have
tested it very good already.

-=JB=-
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Re: can't access scripts

2008-09-08 Thread Jerry Daniels

Bruce,

I recommend you get the latest version of GLX2. You can do this from  
the help menu of GLX2 Scripts or from the GLX2 support site (http://glx2.com 
) where there are links for the Mac and Windows installers on the  
right side of every page on the site.


There were in compatibilities between Rev 3.0 and older versions of  
GLX2--understandably. Even some incompatibilities in the 3.0 release  
candidates as the Rev IDE changed. So you have to keep up to date.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

Daniels  Mara, Inc.
Makers of GLX2
http://www.glx2.com





On Sep 7, 2008, at 9:21 PM, Bruce A. Pokras wrote:


All,

Are any of you using GLX2?  There is an incompatibility between GLX2  
and RunRev 3.0 that prevents the script editor from opening, and  
also prevents some menus from working (e.g., I could not disable  
GLX2 from the menubar). The current beta of GLX2 is supposed to  
address the problem, but I have not tried that. Disabling GLX2 by  
moving the plugin out of its Plugins folder fixes the problem.


Regards,

Bruce





Fritz, Mark,

As soon as I downloaded 3.0, I ran into the same problem with not  
being able to edit scripts. I reported it immediately, but until  
your references I thought I was the only one with this aberration.  
In my case it holds true for HC stacks that I convert with 3.0 as  
well as those previously converted by earlier RR versions. They act  
as if there are no scripts. Not even an empty edit window. As I  
mentioned at the time, I was unable to report this on the beta  
list, having not been recognized, though I did receive notification  
that I was activated. One or two of my emails were off list. Again,  
I just got no response from anyone.


Joe Wilkins

On Sep 6, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Friedrich F. Grohmann wrote:


Thanks, Mark!

Good to know that I don't suffer from some exotic hallucination.  
Unfortunately, however, the trick with the deleted preferences  
stack doesn't work so far


All the best,
Fritz



On 6 Sep 2008, at 23:38, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Hallo Friedrich!

That happened to me too and I reported it already. It looks like  
there is a problem with the preferences stack. If you delete it  
from ~/Library/Preferences/Runtime Revolution/Revolution  
Enterprise or the equivalent of that folder on your system with  
your license, the problem might solve itself.


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Re: Dynamic Table Field - fixed doubleclick bug

2008-09-08 Thread -= JB =-

I just eliminated the shift key double click option to collapse a column
and now you can double click to the left of the divider bar or anywhere
but on text to collapse the column without holding down any key.

-=JB=-


On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:21 AM, -= JB =- wrote:


Just a note to let you know that even though I have fixed the bug the
feature to double click to to the left of the divider line and  
collapse a
column is still included.  But now it works properly using a script  
in the

mouseDoubleDown handler.

-=JB=-



On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:15 AM, -= JB =- wrote:

I finally figured out how to fix the bug that collapsed the column  
when
the user double clicked on the divider line and have corrected  
it.  The

update has been uploaded to Rev On-line.

Everything should work excellent now.  That was the last problem I
know about so if anyone finds more bugs please let me know.  I have
tested it very good already.

-=JB=-
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Re-2: only 9 parameters possible in rev standalone commandline

2008-09-08 Thread runrev260805
Ben,

just imagine you want to drag files onto a Windows shortcut of a runrev 
standalone. There it would be usefull to have more than 9 parameters.

I am working on an application, which allows the user to put a predefined 
watermark onto a graphic file. 
I want to give the user the opportunity to drag lots of files or folders to the 
shortcut of that app without starting the app first.
Putting a file onto a Windows shortcut starts the app and puts the 
file(s)/folder(s) as a parameter to the app.

Regards,

Matthias




 Original Message 
Subject: Re: only 9  parameters possible in rev standalone commandline 
(08-Sep-2008 16:26)
From:Ben Rubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  am i the only one who is using rev standalones with commandline parameters?
 
 No, I know of at least one other (me).  But I've never tried using it with 
 more than two; you might be the only using rev standalones with more than 
 nine.
 
 - Ben
 
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Re: Re-2: only 9 parameters possible in rev standalone commandline

2008-09-08 Thread Ben Rubinstein

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ben,

just imagine you want to drag files onto a Windows shortcut of a runrev 
standalone. There it would be usefull to have more than 9 parameters.

I am working on an application, which allows the user to put a predefined watermark onto a graphic file. 
I want to give the user the opportunity to drag lots of files or folders to the shortcut of that app without starting the app first.

Putting a file onto a Windows shortcut starts the app and puts the 
file(s)/folder(s) as a parameter to the app.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

am i the only one who is using rev standalones with commandline parameters?
No, I know of at least one other (me).  But I've never tried using it with 
more than two; you might be the only using rev standalones with more than 
nine.


Mathias,

I wasn't suggesting your requirement was in any way unreasonable; only 
reporting that I'd never tested this capability myself.


If this is a problem - as it evidently is - I'd encourage you to report it 
using the bug database at http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/: that's pretty 
much the only way to put a problem on the path to being addressed.


regards,

- Ben

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Re-5: put visible watermark onto a jpg with rev ?

2008-09-08 Thread runrev260805
Hi Roger,


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Re-3: put visible watermark onto a jpg with rev ? (05-Sep-2008 
23:03)
From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hide this stack
 -- do my jpeg loop
 show this stack
 
 or possibly have it positioned off-screen.

This does not help. The created image then shows the area of the desktop, where 
the stack was before.

 To reduce cpu cycles, you need to insert a wait 200 millisecs in the loop.
 That should help with the freezing.

Tried this out also. Does not help. It freezes all the time, when  i move 
another window while the app is running and converting.
But i found out that this only happens under Vista.Under Windows 2003 Server or 
Windows XP Pro  i can move a window while the app 
is converting without freezing. As the program has to run under XP this is 
quite not a problem for me. But this behaviour under Vista is very strange.


Regards,

Matthias


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Re: Re-2: only 9 parameters possible in rev standalone commandline

2008-09-08 Thread Mark Smith

Mattias, I just got 15 parameters to show up in a cgi-type script:

on startup
 put $0  cr  $1  cr  $2  cr  $3  cr  $4  cr  $5  cr
 put $6  cr  $7  cr  $8  cr  $9  cr  $10  cr
 put $11  cr  $12  cr  $13  cr  $14  cr  $15  cr
end startup

Might there be something in the tenth of your parameters (a null  
byte, perhaps) that is causing a problem?


Best,

Mark


On 8 Sep 2008, at 20:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ben,

just imagine you want to drag files onto a Windows shortcut of a  
runrev standalone. There it would be usefull to have more than 9  
parameters.


I am working on an application, which allows the user to put a  
predefined watermark onto a graphic file.
I want to give the user the opportunity to drag lots of files or  
folders to the shortcut of that app without starting the app first.
Putting a file onto a Windows shortcut starts the app and puts the  
file(s)/folder(s) as a parameter to the app.


Regards,

Matthias




 Original Message 
Subject: Re: only 9  parameters possible in rev standalone  
commandline (08-Sep-2008 16:26)

From:Ben Rubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
am i the only one who is using rev standalones with commandline  
parameters?


No, I know of at least one other (me).  But I've never tried using  
it with
more than two; you might be the only using rev standalones with  
more than

nine.

- Ben

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Re: stsMLXEditor, Notepad, Vista, Rev 3

2008-09-08 Thread Bernard Devlin
Thanks Ken.  I did realise that the path had changed on Vista from winnt
to windows, so I'd already changed that in the script.  I think the
problem would have been with the 'start' command blocking the handler (I'm
on linux at the moment so can't test that yet).  I'd configured notepad as
the editor, and it was displaying the script, but on close the changes were
not being written back into the 'Test' button.  With a GUI editor and rev
2.9 on Linux (I can't test with Rev 3), there is some problem with the
editor writing some Gnome-related info to stderr/stdout (even when they've
been redirected), so the shell command never closes.  I tried it with 'open
process' instead, and that seems to work fine (although of course the open
processes may need to be cleaned up).

So it is working on Linux 2.9.  I'm planning on using it with this code
editor (as it appears to offer similar kinds of code-folding and
hyperlinking to that which GLX2  provides):
http://code-browser.sourceforge.net/ .  When I've got the configuration file
sorted out so that it recognizes Rev's keywords, etc I'll send the config
file along to you and you can include it on your site if you'd like.

Bernard
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linux: cannot load ssl library

2008-09-08 Thread Bernard Devlin
When I try to make a https connection with Rev 2.9 on linux I get this
error: 'cannot load ssl library' (this is running inside the IDE).  I have
paid for the SSL library add-on (so that's not the problem), and the same
stack can make https connections when run on Vista.  OpenSSL is installed on
the linux machine as this demonstrates:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rev.linux2.9]$ openssl
OpenSSL version
OpenSSL 0.9.8b 04 May 2006
OpenSSL quit
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rev.linux2.9]$

After searching the list I cannot see anyway to fix this myself. There is
nothing in the error message nor in the Revolution documentation that
provides one with any information about where the problem might lie.  I've
seen some suggestions from a few years ago that there were environment
variables to set in the script that launches Rev on linux, but the 2.9
version does not launch from a script.  Anyway, I created a script and added
the variable, but still no joy.  I also saw mention that Rev was linked
against a particular version of openssl (version 0.9), and unless the minor
'8b' in my version matters, it looks like I've even got the right version of
openssl installed.

I really cannot see why runrev does not provide an openssl library
(particularly for Linux where there can be many variations installed), as
they do with Windows (one can assume that OS X is stable and predictable
target, I guess, so they maybe can get away without providng a library
there).

It is really exasperating when linux has been advertised as a supported
platform but a feature like this is so badly supported.  There are several
other cosmetic issues with the way Revolution works on linux (which would
make me wary of providing a linux version of an application).  As a
developer I can put up with the irritation/ugliness of those cosmetic
issues, but if something like https is broken then I can't do development on
linux, without bypassing Rev and using other tools instead.

Hopefully someone else has some ideas of how I can fix this.  I had hoped
that after the new improved linux support in 2.9, linux would have achieved
some kind of parity with the support given to other platforms, at least in
the things that are within runrev's control (like providing a ssl library,
or at least some documentation).

Perhaps someone with access to the ssl library and rev installed on linux
could try and see if they can make a https connection without getting this
error?  That would be helpful in determining if it is widespread issue.

Thanks,

Bernard
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Re-4: only 9 parameters possible in rev standalone commandline

2008-09-08 Thread runrev260805
Hi Mark,

thanks, but i had the same idea. So i tried with a simple app.
My opencard handler looked like this

on opencard
answer $1  cr  $2  cr  $3  cr  $4  cr  $5  cr  $6  cr  $7  cr  $8 
 cr  $9  cr  $10  cr $11  cr  $12  cr  $13
end opencard


The commandline to start the app looked like this

app.exe a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a10 a11 a12 a13

But i only got displayed a1 to a9

So maybe there is a problem with the Windows standalone?

Regards,

Matthias




 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Re-2: only 9 parameters possible in rev standalone commandline 
(08-Sep-2008 23:33)
From:Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Mattias, I just got 15 parameters to show up in a cgi-type script:
 
 on startup
   put $0  cr  $1  cr  $2  cr  $3  cr  $4  cr  $5  cr
   put $6  cr  $7  cr  $8  cr  $9  cr  $10  cr
   put $11  cr  $12  cr  $13  cr  $14  cr  $15  cr
 end startup
 
 Might there be something in the tenth of your parameters (a null  
 byte, perhaps) that is causing a problem?
 
 Best,
 
 Mark
 
 
 On 8 Sep 2008, at 20:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ben,
 
  just imagine you want to drag files onto a Windows shortcut of a  
  runrev standalone. There it would be usefull to have more than 9  
  parameters.
 
  I am working on an application, which allows the user to put a  
  predefined watermark onto a graphic file.
  I want to give the user the opportunity to drag lots of files or  
  folders to the shortcut of that app without starting the app first.
  Putting a file onto a Windows shortcut starts the app and puts the  
  file(s)/folder(s) as a parameter to the app.
 
  Regards,
 
  Matthias
 
 
 
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: only 9  parameters possible in rev standalone  
  commandline (08-Sep-2008 16:26)
  From:Ben Rubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  am i the only one who is using rev standalones with commandline  
  parameters?
 
  No, I know of at least one other (me).  But I've never tried using  
  it with
  more than two; you might be the only using rev standalones with  
  more than
  nine.
 
  - Ben
 
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Re: Stack opens behind Windows desktop

2008-09-08 Thread J. Landman Gay

Horst wrote:

Holá Jacqueline,

Yes we have same problem here, no idea, why and thought, it would be a
spanish problem :-) 
Working with Win 2000, Win XP and RR 2.9 


I just compiled with Rev 3.0 and the problem is still there, but just 
for that one person. Are your stack's window decorations set to empty? 
I'm going to send this person a standalone with default decorations and 
see if that helps. Have you been able to find a consistent recipe? Is it 
always on only one machine or does it always happen to you?




Ho finds a solution will be my hero!

best regards

Horst


J. Landman Gay wrote:
Odd Windows problem, that happens inconsistently: A standalone's 
mainstack has its decorations set to empty and is sized to the 
windowboundingrect. On launch, or sometimes when maximizing from the 
task bar, the stack window opens invisibly. One person described it as 
being behind the desktop. It can sometimes be brought back to view by 
pressing the Windows key on the keyboard, and when that key is released 
the stack pops back into view where it belongs.


I've tried forcing it by specifically issuing the toplevel command and 
the show command on both openstack and uniconifystack. The client says 
it still sometimes fails to display. I've seen it happen only once, on 
launch, and couldn't reproduce it again. It never happens in the IDE. 
The stack is never made invisible or hidden; only its iconic is changed.


This happens only on Windows, the Mac version goes to and from the dock 
without any problem. Has anyone seen this?


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