Re: rev cgi - put url read from

2008-09-20 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Jim,

Usually, I use open/read/close file, because it gives me more control  
over the size of the chunks to be read. This allows be to create a  
very smooth user experience.


I never checked it, but I presume that libUrl uses the same read/write/ 
close file commands to deal with local files, while it uses socket  
communication for non-local files.


If I am right, issueing the read command yourself is a tiny fraction  
of an i'th of a millisecond faster than using the put url command.


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On 20 sep 2008, at 06:32, Jim Sims wrote:

I've switched my rev cgi from my local Leopard webserver test area  
to jaguarpc

and it seems that I must change some code.

I have a rev stack used as cgi and where put url worked on my Leopard
webserver it doesn't on jaguarpc. So, I changed to open file - read  
from - close file.


My question is, does the open - read - close cycle of events
chew up more time than the put url? Is open-read-close the best way  
or is there some
other means of putting a file into a variable (I already use custom  
properties in the stack
for storing files and using them but am experimenting with the cgi  
stack

grabbing files for use).


sims


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Re: rev cgi - put url read from

2008-09-20 Thread Dave Cragg


On 20 Sep 2008, at 05:32, Jim Sims wrote:


I have a rev stack used as cgi and where put url worked on my Leopard
webserver it doesn't on jaguarpc. So, I changed to open file - read  
from - close file.


I'm surprised by this. (Not doubting you. :-)) But I've never come  
across a case of open-read-close working where get/put url didn't.  
What kind of error do you see in the result? Are the file paths  
identical in both cases?


On the other hand, I don't think there is any noticeable speed  
difference in both approaches.


Mark Schonewille wrote:

I never checked it, but I presume that libUrl uses the same read/ 
write/close file commands to deal with local files, while it uses  
socket communication for non-local files.


Mark, libUrl only handles url commands for internet urls (http, ftp).  
The engine handles the file protocol urls directly. (Or did I  
misunderstand you?)


Cheers
Dave
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Re: GLX2 and Rev 3.0

2008-09-20 Thread Horst

Holá Tiemo,

Just to make things clear: I'm working with W2k AND XP! Same reaktion on
both systems.
Best Regards

Horst


Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
 Hi, I've just installed Rev 3.0 and noticed two things
 
  
 
 1. The reaction time on menu mouseclicks (I reported before) in Rev IDE
 3.0
 on Win XP (with and without stacks open) is still a crawl. Anybody else
 (beside of Horst) having performance problems with the IDE?
 
  
 
 2. When trying to open a script with activated GLX2, nothing happens.
 After
 deactivating GLX2 the scripts are opened in the new Rev editor. I didn't
 found any deinstall procedure fro GLX2. What is the appropriate way to do
 it. Just remove the GLX2 plugins from the plugins folder and that's it?
 
  
 
 Thanks
 
 Tiemo
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: rev cgi - put url read from

2008-09-20 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Dave,

Thanks for interfering. I've read the docs once more and now I see  
that you're right. The form put URL file:... doesn't need libUrl.


Sims, this means that the put command might be slightly faster than  
open/read/close. I don't think it matters much though. I'd worry more  
about the blocking nature of the put command.


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On 20 sep 2008, at 11:17, Dave Cragg wrote:


Mark, libUrl only handles url commands for internet urls (http,  
ftp). The engine handles the file protocol urls directly. (Or did I  
misunderstand you?)


Cheers
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Re: rev cgi - put url read from

2008-09-20 Thread Jim Sims


On Sep 20, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Dave Cragg wrote:



I have a rev stack used as cgi and where put url worked on my Leopard
webserver it doesn't on jaguarpc. So, I changed to open file - read  
from - close file.


I'm surprised by this. (Not doubting you. :-)) But I've never come  
across a case of open-read-close working where get/put url didn't.  
What kind of error do you see in the result? Are the file paths  
identical in both cases?



More than likely (certainly) you are correct. I'll go back in a bit  
and  retry it with the paths that now work
with open-read-close. Been quite a trip going from something that  
worked well on my powerbook

to transferring it onto jaguarpc:-/

I'm now trying to figure out what happened to my nice clean css  
layout  :-)  Dang

fields are way off to the right almost over to Cloe's desk   ;-)

Fun, but a bit confusing.

sims
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Re: rev cgi - put url read from

2008-09-20 Thread Dave Cragg


On 20 Sep 2008, at 10:43, Jim Sims wrote:
I'm now trying to figure out what happened to my nice clean css  
layout  :-)  Dang

fields are way off to the right almost over to Cloe's desk   ;-)


If I were a field, i'd head her way too and dang the CSS. :-)

Cheers
Dave


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Editing the Rev Environment

2008-09-20 Thread J. Downs
Quick question.  How does one edit the stacks that make up the Rev  
development environment?


Thanks,
J.

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Re: Editing the Rev Environment

2008-09-20 Thread Eric Chatonet

Bonjour J.

Le 20 sept. 08 à 15:57, J. Downs a écrit :

Quick question.  How does one edit the stacks that make up the Rev  
development environment?


The best way to access IDE objects is:

1. In Preferences General pane check the 'Contextual menus work in  
Revolution windows' box.
2. Then use Shift/Control/Option (Alt) click to make the contextual  
menu showing up.

3. Edit all you want.

Best regards from Paris,
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Re: Editing the Rev Environment

2008-09-20 Thread J. Downs

Much obliged, Eric!  :)

J.


On Sep 20, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Bonjour J.

Le 20 sept. 08 à 15:57, J. Downs a écrit :

Quick question.  How does one edit the stacks that make up the Rev  
development environment?


The best way to access IDE objects is:

1. In Preferences General pane check the 'Contextual menus work in  
Revolution windows' box.
2. Then use Shift/Control/Option (Alt) click to make the contextual  
menu showing up.

3. Edit all you want.

Best regards from Paris,
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Re: rev cgi - put url read from

2008-09-20 Thread Andre Garzia
Ciao Sims,

there's no libURL in the CGI engines, did you copied libURL yourself
to your CGI? If you didn't then you can't use url calls. The trick is
to use a shell() call to the command curl that is bundled with
almost all linuxes to do the url calls.

I've put my little RocketsCURL.Rev library available to you at
http://andregarzia.com/RocketsCURL.rev.zip

The library allows you to do some pretty nice URL stuff like resume
downloads and the like.

:-D

You can check about curl my doing a man curl in the terminal or by
checking their homepage at http://curl.haxx.se/

A alternative to using curl is the use of wget and wput shell
commands. Curl has more options and is more standard, some places
don't have wput in place only wget.

Xoxo
andre
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[OT] Free Images

2008-09-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Judy Perry wrote:

What about using Flickr?

Because:

not a great fan of social networking: (more like anti-social in my case :)

I want to see the uptake on my images.

Frankly joining the group does not seem too great a cost for the images.

There's more now:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMimages/?yguid=254544547

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.



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Re: [OT] Free Images

2008-09-20 Thread Judy Perry
And joining a group is anti-social HOW??

Judy

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Richmond Mathewson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Judy Perry wrote:

 What about using Flickr?

 Because:

 not a great fan of social networking: (more like anti-social in my case :)

 I want to see the uptake on my images.

 Frankly joining the group does not seem too great a cost for the images.

 There's more now:

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMimages/?yguid=254544547

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Re: Problems with the focusedObject

2008-09-20 Thread Graham Samuel

Bonsoir Eric

The TraversalOn of my Edit button (the relevant one) is set to false.

I found out by experiment that 'the focusedObject' does work as  
expected if I have create a simple one-card stack with fields on the  
card and a button on the same card that examines the fields (I mean it  
has a script that displays the focusedObject). The focusedObject  
points to a field as long as the cursor is flashing in it, even when  
the field is empty and nothing in the field is actually selected: when  
there is text in the field, the focusedObject also points to it,  
whether the text is selected or not. I haven not yet looked at the  
selectedField, but I believe it works in the same way as the  
focusedObject.


I don't know why my original menu thing doesn't work, but it could be  
a side-effect of using GLX2 (I haven't tried it outside the  
development environment). I'll do some more research.


Graham

PS My 'France profonde' is about 20 km West of Carcassonne in the Aude  
- a village with less than 300 inhabitants. If you like, I can send  
you a picture (but not of course to this text-only list).


On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:04:31 +0200, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:



Bonsoir Graham,

This just means that invoking your menu item deselects the selected
field.
Does you menu button has its traversalOn set to false?

BTW, You speak about 'la France profonde': which one exactly?
;-)

Le 19 sept. 08 à 18:55, Graham Samuel a écrit :


Bonjour Eric

Thanks for the quick reply. Sadly the selectedField returns empty
in the circumstances. I do find this very mysterious. For example,
if I put some text in a field and invoke my 'cut' menu, which
executes this script fragment from the menuPick handler dealing
with Cut:

   cut
   if clipboardData[text] is not empty then
   put the selectedfield
   

The clipboard data can be shown to be as expected (i.e. what was in
the field), but the selectedField is just empty.

There must be some way for the handler in the menu to detect what
the cut (or paste or clear) operation was operating on, but I can't
find it.

Best wishes from la France profonde

Graham


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.


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Re: Problems with the focusedObject

2008-09-20 Thread Eric Chatonet

Bonsoir Graham,

As you said in a previous email that 'Ha! The 'cut' command kills the  
selectedField', I would have thought that the problem was solved by  
retrieving the selectedField before calling the command.

Just tell us if you need something more :-)
As for the 'Aude', yes, it's a wonderful place with wonderful people:  
send me a picture off-list.
The list is sometimes a bit virtual: putting a face or an environment  
is welcome :-)


Le 20 sept. 08 à 22:41, Graham Samuel a écrit :


Bonsoir Eric

The TraversalOn of my Edit button (the relevant one) is set to  
false.


I found out by experiment that 'the focusedObject' does work as  
expected if I have create a simple one-card stack with fields on  
the card and a button on the same card that examines the fields (I  
mean it has a script that displays the focusedObject). The  
focusedObject points to a field as long as the cursor is flashing  
in it, even when the field is empty and nothing in the field is  
actually selected: when there is text in the field, the  
focusedObject also points to it, whether the text is selected or  
not. I haven not yet looked at the selectedField, but I believe it  
works in the same way as the focusedObject.


I don't know why my original menu thing doesn't work, but it could  
be a side-effect of using GLX2 (I haven't tried it outside the  
development environment). I'll do some more research.


Graham

PS My 'France profonde' is about 20 km West of Carcassonne in the  
Aude - a village with less than 300 inhabitants. If you like, I can  
send you a picture (but not of course to this text-only list).


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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Text and not text in a string

2008-09-20 Thread Bill Vlahos
I want to determine if a string contains a word but doesn't contain  
two other words.


For example (in the message box):
put Internet Work contains Work is true

How do I ask if the string contains Internet but not Work or Home?

Bill Vlahos
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Re: Text and not text in a string

2008-09-20 Thread Terry Judd
How about...

put (myString contains cat) and not((myString contains dog) or (myString
contains mouse))

Terry...


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 I want to determine if a string contains a word but doesn't contain
 two other words.
 
 For example (in the message box):
 put Internet Work contains Work is true
 
 How do I ask if the string contains Internet but not Work or Home?
 
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OT: Trevor -- any idea how to use this new codec?

2008-09-20 Thread Judy Perry
From Slashdot:

According to their website, 'Dirac is an advanced royalty-free video
compression format designed for a wide range of uses, from delivering
low-resolution web content to broadcasting HD and beyond, to
near-lossless studio editing.' Now a stable version of the
dirac-research codebase, Dirac 1.0.0, has been released. The BBC have
already successfully used the new codec during the Beijing Olympics
and are looking to push it to more general use throughout the
organisation. The latest version of VLC (the recently released 0.9.2)
has support for Dirac using the Schroedinger library.

http://diracvideo.org/

Looks interesting...

Thanks,

Judy
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User leaves a Rev standalone, intending to come back

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Hi Everyone,

For the life of me I can't remember what happens when a user decides  
to go to another application, or the Internet, leaving his/her Rev  
standalone open; when that happens I want to do something; and  
something else when they return?


TIA,

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returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-20 Thread william humphrey
I'm having trouble sorting this out. I have a function that searches through
lines of tab delimited text. The number of lines varies from one to ten. The
result from the search is two things. A data element and a pointer that says
which kind of data element. Sometimes the result is one data element and one
pointer and sometimes the result is another quantity like three data
elements each with their identifier. To have this returned by the function
it seems I need an array. I'm inexperienced at using arrays but I imagine
that you just build it in the function and that is what is returned and then
the identifiers for each data element are the keys and it makes no
difference how many lines are in the array? Perhaps I also return a counter
which says how many lines of data are in the array?
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Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
William, When I needed to do something like this in HC, I'd build a  
string consisting of several comma delimited words/values and return  
that string. Then I'd evaluate the string for what I needed. That  
should work in Rev as well. It's kind of like using an array, I  
suppose. (smile)


HTH

Joe Wilkins
On Sep 20, 2008, at 5:13 PM, william humphrey wrote:

I'm having trouble sorting this out. I have a function that searches  
through
lines of tab delimited text. The number of lines varies from one to  
ten. The
result from the search is two things. A data element and a pointer  
that says
which kind of data element. Sometimes the result is one data element  
and one

pointer and sometimes the result is another quantity like three data
elements each with their identifier. To have this returned by the  
function
it seems I need an array. I'm inexperienced at using arrays but I  
imagine
that you just build it in the function and that is what is returned  
and then

the identifiers for each data element are the keys and it makes no
difference how many lines are in the array? Perhaps I also return a  
counter

which says how many lines of data are in the array?
_

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Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-20 Thread Mark Smith
William, you've got the idea. Arrays are really useful in these  
circumstances, and are really worth becoming familiar with.


Best,

Mark



On 21 Sep 2008, at 01:13, william humphrey wrote:

I'm having trouble sorting this out. I have a function that  
searches through
lines of tab delimited text. The number of lines varies from one to  
ten. The
result from the search is two things. A data element and a pointer  
that says
which kind of data element. Sometimes the result is one data  
element and one

pointer and sometimes the result is another quantity like three data
elements each with their identifier. To have this returned by the  
function
it seems I need an array. I'm inexperienced at using arrays but I  
imagine
that you just build it in the function and that is what is returned  
and then

the identifiers for each data element are the keys and it makes no
difference how many lines are in the array? Perhaps I also return a  
counter

which says how many lines of data are in the array?
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Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-20 Thread Stephen Barncard

You've practically designed it!

Arrays are your friend.


{ below not tested}

function yourFunction arrayVar
put Timestamp  tab  FDSFSDF into myArray[garbage]
put toad into myArray[green]
return myArray
end yourFunction

put yourFunction() into  Array

combine array with return and tab
put Array

--
garbagetab20080923tabFDSFSDF
greentabtoad




To get the number of elements in an array:
number of lines in myArray

even better ( I love this one - think binary):
repeat for each line tKey in the keys of tArray
  put tArray[tKey]  return after tArrayContents
end repeat


to sort:
 put the keys of myArray into myVariable
  sort lines of myVariable




I'm having trouble sorting this out. I have a function that searches through
lines of tab delimited text. The number of lines varies from one to ten. The
result from the search is two things. A data element and a pointer that says
which kind of data element. Sometimes the result is one data element and one
pointer and sometimes the result is another quantity like three data
elements each with their identifier. To have this returned by the function
it seems I need an array. I'm inexperienced at using arrays but I imagine
that you just build it in the function and that is what is returned and then
the identifiers for each data element are the keys and it makes no
difference how many lines are in the array? Perhaps I also return a counter
which says how many lines of data are in the array?


--


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Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-20 Thread william humphrey
Thanks for not only answering but giving me the example. The repeat for each
line in the array will work perfectly.
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Re: User leaves a Rev standalone, intending to come back

2008-09-20 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 For the life of me I can't remember what happens when a user decides to go
 to another application, or the Internet, leaving his/her Rev standalone
 open; when that happens I want to do something; and something else when they
 return?


Check out the suspend  resume messages.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: User leaves a Rev standalone, intending to come back

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Thanks, Sarah! My senior moment had both of those blocked. (smile)

Joe Wilkins

On Sep 20, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Hi Everyone,

For the life of me I can't remember what happens when a user  
decides to go
to another application, or the Internet, leaving his/her Rev  
standalone
open; when that happens I want to do something; and something else  
when they

return?



Check out the suspend  resume messages.

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Re: OT: Trevor -- any idea how to use this new codec?

2008-09-20 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Judy Perry wrote:


http://diracvideo.org/

Looks interesting...


I found this QuickTime component (for Mac) on their site:

http://diracvideo.org/wiki/index.php/SchroQT

If you install the codec then any application that uses QuickTime for  
playback should be able to play the videos. Just point a Revolution  
player control at a file that uses the Dirac codec.


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Re: OT: Trevor -- any idea how to use this new codec?

2008-09-20 Thread Judy Perry
Thanks, Trevor!

But how to use the codec to *compress* within QT?  Is it possible?  Is
it a standalone kind of thing?

Sorry to be dumb -- I really don't understand these sorts of things.

Thanks again,

Judy

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Trevor DeVore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Judy Perry wrote:

 http://diracvideo.org/

 Looks interesting...

 I found this QuickTime component (for Mac) on their site:

 http://diracvideo.org/wiki/index.php/SchroQT

 If you install the codec then any application that uses QuickTime for
 playback should be able to play the videos. Just point a Revolution player
 control at a file that uses the Dirac codec.

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Mail merge--again

2008-09-20 Thread James Hurley

This doesn't work:

on mouseUp
   repeat with i = 1 to 5
  put cr  cr  cr  i  into field 1
  print this card from 142, 30 to 681,556
   end repeat
end mouseUp

What I would like to do is print the number i, running from 1 to 5 on  
the fourth line down on the card. (The real objective is mail merge  
in a letter, but I'm trying to keep it simple here.)


This handler produces 5 separate pages in Preview--on the Mac. To  
print  the 5 pages I would have to click Print on each of the 5  
pages in Preview. (I actually have a couple of hundred letters.)


My objective is to build 5 pages to print in the repeat loop and send  
them to the printer while go out for coffee.


How is that done? So far, all I can handle is the coffee part.

Thanks,

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Re: Mail merge--again

2008-09-20 Thread J. Landman Gay

James Hurley wrote:

This doesn't work:

on mouseUp
   repeat with i = 1 to 5
  put cr  cr  cr  i  into field 1
  print this card from 142, 30 to 681,556
   end repeat
end mouseUp

What I would like to do is print the number i, running from 1 to 5 on 
the fourth line down on the card. (The real objective is mail merge in a 
letter, but I'm trying to keep it simple here.)


This handler produces 5 separate pages in Preview--on the Mac. To print  
the 5 pages I would have to click Print on each of the 5 pages in 
Preview. (I actually have a couple of hundred letters.)


My objective is to build 5 pages to print in the repeat loop and send 
them to the printer while go out for coffee.


How is that done? So far, all I can handle is the coffee part.


Just surround your repeat loop with open printing and close printing 
commands:


  open printing -- tell the engine to expect a print job
   repeat with i = 1 to 5
  put cr  cr  cr  i  into field 1
  print this card from 142, 30 to 681,556 -- adds to the print job
   end repeat
  close printing -- sends the whole batch to the printer as one job

This way you only have to click Print once, though you'll need to wait 
for the repeat loop to finish before you see a print dialog.


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Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-20 Thread william humphrey
for some reason in my function if I say

return myArray then I get an array with zero lines even when that is not
true.


If I say return myArray[1]  (where 1 is one of the keys which has data in
the array) then it does return that correctly but just with that one line of
course.


This is why I hate arrays. It is not working like I expected.

On 9/20/08, william humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for not only answering but giving me the example. The repeat for
 each line in the array will work perfectly.




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Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-20 Thread Stephen Barncard

HEY! that's not fair to the arrays. :) They REALLY are useful and amazing.

Honestly,  once you have you're aha moment you'll understand it.

Your code is working as expected. For now, Just imagine the array to 
be a package of little ordinary variables that can be easily 
manipulated.


put array into fld output-- won't be seen

You can't see an array when put it - it's still there
but you can't put it into anything except another array (or save it 
as a custom property)


put array into array2
set the customproperty[myarray]  of this stack to array

If you want to see the elements you gotta take it apart.

combine does that.

combine with return and tab

which turns the array into a single text string

or the

 repeat for each line tKey in the keys of array

put tKey  return after tOut
end repeat

put tOut



for some reason in my function if I say

return myArray then I get an array with zero lines even when that is not
true.


If I say return myArray[1]  (where 1 is one of the keys which has data in
the array) then it does return that correctly but just with that one line of
course.


This is why I hate arrays. It is not working like I expected.

On 9/20/08, william humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Thanks for not only answering but giving me the example. The repeat for

  each line in the array will work perfectly.



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Re: OT: Trevor -- any idea how to use this new codec?

2008-09-20 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Sep 20, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Judy Perry wrote:


Thanks, Trevor!

But how to use the codec to *compress* within QT?  Is it possible?  Is
it a standalone kind of thing?


Here is a lesson I just made showing the steps I followed to export a  
movie using QuickTime Pro. Follow along and see if it works for you.


http://trevordevore.screenstepslive.com/lessons/1904

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Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies

2008-09-20 Thread Richard Gaskin

william humphrey wrote:


for some reason in my function if I say

return myArray then I get an array with zero lines even when that is not
true.

If I say return myArray[1]  (where 1 is one of the keys which has data in
the array) then it does return that correctly but just with that one line of
course.

This is why I hate arrays. It is not working like I expected.


Then maybe just consider a simple delimited list instead.

Arrays are way cool for a great many things, but they're not the answer 
to every problem.  Your data set is small enough that the specific 
operations that arrays excel at will have no noticeable performance 
difference doing them with a simple list.


Extra bonus points for lists in your case:  you can simply put the 
variable into a field, without having to run it through the combine 
command first.


For small data sets performance won't matter much either way. But for 
large collections of things, the split and combine commands are very 
computationally expensive. Because they're effectively parsing and 
delimiting the data entire set, they're really only doing what you can 
do yourself with repeat for each but without the extra step.


For random access of specific elements, the efficient internal hashed 
representation of keys makes accessing array elements several orders of 
magnitude faster than any method for finding lines in a list.  But if 
you're not doing frequent random access the tradeoffs become the sort of 
thing where there is no best answer, it really depends on what you're doing.


In your case your data set is small, so you have the luxury of doing 
whatever feels most comfortable.  Have fun!


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Re: OT: Trevor -- any idea how to use this new codec?

2008-09-20 Thread Judy Perry
Thank you so much, again, Trevor!

I will follow along tomorrow and let you know!

Judy

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Trevor DeVore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sep 20, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Judy Perry wrote:

 Thanks, Trevor!

 But how to use the codec to *compress* within QT?  Is it possible?  Is
 it a standalone kind of thing?

 Here is a lesson I just made showing the steps I followed to export a movie
 using QuickTime Pro. Follow along and see if it works for you.

 http://trevordevore.screenstepslive.com/lessons/1904

 Regards,

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Re: Text and not text in a string

2008-09-20 Thread Bill Vlahos

Terry,

That did it. Thanks Terry.

Bill Vlahos

On Sep 20, 2008, at 3:42 PM, Terry Judd wrote:


How about...

put (myString contains cat) and not((myString contains dog) or  
(myString

contains mouse))

Terry...


On 21/9/08 8:35 AM, Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I want to determine if a string contains a word but doesn't contain
two other words.

For example (in the message box):
put Internet Work contains Work is true

How do I ask if the string contains Internet but not Work or  
Home?


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Re: Text and not text in a string

2008-09-20 Thread Ken Ray


 How do I ask if the string contains Internet but not Work or Home?

You could also do:

  if (Internet is in tString) and (Work is not in tString) and (Home
is not in tString) then
-- whatever you want to do
  end if

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show stopper with 3.0

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

Help! Anyone,

I've been working all week with 3.0 to finalize an app that I started  
under 2.8. No problems most of the time. THEN...


I created a standalone OSX version. First time through it worked fine.  
Then I started cleaning up a few minor items. Not sure exactly when it  
happened the first time, but finally the standalone went all the way  
through to the point where it said it was successfully created, but on  
opening the standalone none of the images were there, and the app was  
only 9 MB instead of the 17 or so that it had been when everything was  
there.


While it was being created the routine, in so far as what appeared on  
the screen, varied. Upshot is that I cannot create a viable standalone  
at this time. Is there some kind of file that I need to trash, or  
should I just do a new 3.0 install? I'm in the stretch run and need to  
do something. I suppose I could go back to 2.9 and, in fact, that is  
what I'm going to do right now. Keep your collective  fingers crossed.  
(smile)


TIA,

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Re: show stopper with 3.0

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins

NO LUCK! Same results using 2.9. What in the world could have happened?

Joe Wilkins

On Sep 20, 2008, at 8:52 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:


Help! Anyone,

I've been working all week with 3.0 to finalize an app that I  
started under 2.8. No problems most of the time. THEN...


I created a standalone OSX version. First time through it worked  
fine. Then I started cleaning up a few minor items. Not sure exactly  
when it happened the first time, but finally the standalone went all  
the way through to the point where it said it was successfully  
created, but on opening the standalone none of the images were  
there, and the app was only 9 MB instead of the 17 or so that it had  
been when everything was there.


While it was being created the routine, in so far as what appeared  
on the screen, varied. Upshot is that I cannot create a viable  
standalone at this time. Is there some kind of file that I need to  
trash, or should I just do a new 3.0 install? I'm in the stretch run  
and need to do something. I suppose I could go back to 2.9 and, in  
fact, that is what I'm going to do right now. Keep your collective   
fingers crossed. (smile)


TIA,

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Re: show stopper with 3.0 Eureka!

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
It was simple, but very obscure. Fortunately, I remembered recently  
having checked a box for Brushes on the General page of the  
Standalone Application settings. As soon as I unchecked that and  
rebuilt (with 3.0), everything was back and good again. Someone better  
check that out quickly.


Joe Wilkins

On Sep 20, 2008, at 9:04 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

NO LUCK! Same results using 2.9. What in the world could have  
happened?


Joe Wilkins


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Re: show stopper with 3.0 Eureka!

2008-09-20 Thread Ken Ray

 It was simple, but very obscure. Fortunately, I remembered recently
 having checked a box for Brushes on the General page of the
 Standalone Application settings. As soon as I unchecked that and
 rebuilt (with 3.0), everything was back and good again. Someone better
 check that out quickly.

Joe, if you haven't already, you should log a bug report at the RunRev QA
site - that's where they look for bugs and may not see ones posted to the
list as quickly.

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Re: show stopper with 3.0 Eureka!

2008-09-20 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I tried. The first time going to RunRev.com crashed Leopard. On  
reboot, I couldn't log in. Too damn many passwords to remember.  
There's gotta be a better freekin way! Thanks for the suggestion.  
Maybe next time.


Joe Wilkins

On Sep 20, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Ken Ray wrote:

Joe, if you haven't already, you should log a bug report at the  
RunRev QA
site - that's where they look for bugs and may not see ones posted  
to the

list as quickly.

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Re: Mail merge--again

2008-09-20 Thread James Hurley


James Hurley wrote:

This doesn't work:

on mouseUp
   repeat with i = 1 to 5
  put cr  cr  cr  i  into field 1
  print this card from 142, 30 to 681,556
   end repeat
end mouseUp

What I would like to do is print the number i, running from 1 to 5 on
the fourth line down on the card. (The real objective is mail  
merge in a

letter, but I'm trying to keep it simple here.)

This handler produces 5 separate pages in Preview--on the Mac. To  
print

the 5 pages I would have to click Print on each of the 5 pages in
Preview. (I actually have a couple of hundred letters.)

My objective is to build 5 pages to print in the repeat loop and send
them to the printer while go out for coffee.

How is that done? So far, all I can handle is the coffee part.


Just surround your repeat loop with open printing and close  
printing

commands:

   open printing -- tell the engine to expect a print job
repeat with i = 1 to 5
   put cr  cr  cr  i  into field 1
   print this card from 142, 30 to 681,556 -- adds to the print  
job

end repeat
   close printing -- sends the whole batch to the printer as one job

This way you only have to click Print once, though you'll need to  
wait

for the repeat loop to finish before you see a print dialog.

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Thanks Jacque.

I tried your suggestion, but I only got one page printed, the first.  
Perhaps I need to put each letter on a separate card?


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Uncomment in 3.0

2008-09-20 Thread James Hurley

Anyone else having this problem?

Command/Shift -

does not uncommnent the selected lines as in RR 2.x, at least on the  
Mac.


The associated menu item does function, i.e. uncommnent the selected  
lines, but not the keyboard equivalent. Odd.


Jim Hurley

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Re: Mail merge--again

2008-09-20 Thread J. Landman Gay

James Hurley wrote:

I tried your suggestion, but I only got one page printed, the first. 
Perhaps I need to put each letter on a separate card?


You may have to add print break at the bottom of your repeat loop. 
That forces the printer to start a new page. I also forgot to mention 
that you might want to use open printing with dialog instead of plain 
open printing. That shows the printer dialog.


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Re: RESTRAINING THE PENCIL IN REV

2008-09-20 Thread Devin Asay


On Sep 19, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:


Thanks Mark, but the line tool is an object so won't work to define
paintable areas the way the pencil and brush do. I'm trying to import
or paste painted lines from Appleworks or some other app that does
constrain pencil drawing onto a Rev card. I did it with drawings from
McDraft that were originally resedit resources, but haven't had much
success with this - yet! (smile)


Actually, Joe, there is a line tool on the paint tools palette. It may  
not be obvious because it shares a button with the freehand line (AKA  
curve) tool. Just click down and hold on that tool and an option  
menu should pop up letting you choose between the line and freehand  
line tools. Hold down the shift key while drawing to constrain it, as  
Mark mentioned.


HTH,

Devin




Joe Wilkins

On Sep 19, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Mark Smith wrote:


I don't think you can do that (except with your own routines,
maybe), but you can use the line tool with the shift key down, which
will constrain the lines (I think) to an angle some multiple of 22.5
degrees.

Best,

Mark

On 20 Sep 2008, at 01:54, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:


Hi Everyone,

Has anyone found a way using the Rev Pencil Tool to restrain it
when drawing the way Appleworks and most other pain apps do? If
not, I'm going to have to draw a few fairly long lines a pixel at a
time; something I don't cherish.

TIA,

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