3.0 for Linux is 8% slower than 2.6.1 ?
As I can notice several flickerings of IDE components with 3.0 in Linux, yet in Vista the same flickerings are much faster (and therefore barely noticeable), I wondered if there was some speed difference between the old and the new versions of the engines. I threw together a quick test that seems to show that there is an 8% slowdown in the newer Linux version. I've entered it as a bug, and if anyone else would like to correct my results, the stack is attached to the bug report: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7274 When I ran the same test stack on Vista, there seems to be a 30% increase in speed between 2.7.4 and 3.0. Incidentally, I had to use the u3 2.7.4 version of Revolution on Vista, since they've decided to only give us direct access to the latest versions on each platform. Maybe 2.7.4 for u3 is much slower than 2.6.1 for Windows, but I don't have any old versions here to test out. All the tests were done with no other applications but Rev running. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time for a break
That´s happening to me so often, but i thought i am the only one. Good to now there are others out there... Matthias Original Message Subject: Time for a break (04-Okt-2008 17:57) From:Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know you've been doing too much coding when: ...you're in the middle of writing an email message and you press the tab key to format a paragraph... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Faxing (again)
Does anyone know of a productivity stack which includes he ability to send faxes using the Mac OS modom? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Faxing (again)
William, have look here for hints on faxing using the command line (doable as a shell call). http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20031128150928128 Best, Mark On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:37, william humphrey wrote: Does anyone know of a productivity stack which includes he ability to send faxes using the Mac OS modom? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
virtual desktops in linux, very weird
OK, finally tested this on exactly the same machine, but with WindowMaker and Fluxbox. In both cases it works fine. You can put either the dictionary, the stack you're working on, the editor, the property inspector all on different windows. You can then drag and create a button lets say, do 'edit script' and when you flip back to the workspace where the script editor is, there it is waiting to be edited. If memory is correct, this was also the situation with 2.9. Maybe this was why I at first thought it was working, must have been using Fluxbox. Yet on Gnome it doesn't work at all. You can move windows to other desktops, but as soon as you go to the other desktop, back they flash to the one with the Rev menubar on it. It will probably not work on KDE as it did not in 2.9 either. How can this be, that it works in WM and Fluxbox, but not in Gnome, when nothing else has changed? This is apart from the WM being used, exactly the same config in all cases. I am not restarting, just signing off and then signing on again. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/virtual-desktops-in-linux%2C-very-weird-tp19825390p19825390.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3.0 for Linux is 8% slower than 2.6.1 ?
Bernard Devlin bdrunrev at gmail.com wrote: I wondered if there was some speed difference between the old and the new versions of the engines. I threw together a quick test that seems to show that there is an 8% slowdown in the newer Linux version. I've entered it as a bug, and if anyone else would like to correct my results, the stack is attached to the bug report: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7274 Bernard Downloaded your test stack and could open it under WindowsXP, but could not get it to run. Could you provide a version of your stack that is able to run tests for platforms other than Linux, too? Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3.0 for Linux is 8% slower than 2.6.1 ?
On Oct 5, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: Downloaded your test stack and could open it under WindowsXP, but could not get it to run. Could you provide a version of your stack that is able to run tests for platforms other than Linux, too? The file downloaded named as perf-test-leg.rev.sh. You would want to rename it to perf-test-leg.rev. When you run it, it takes 80 seconds before anything happens, and over 6 minutes to do the whole test. On my Mac the numbers it showed were 21. I guess that lower is better? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3.0 for Linux is 8% slower than 2.6.1 ?
I've no idea why it would download as *.sh. It was uploaded as *.rev. The stack doesn't just run under Linux, it runs under Vista (as I think I said in my original post). For some reason, I couldn't open it under OS X PPC (although I didn't think endian issues affected Rev stacks). It has a loop that repeats an exponential number of times, adding lines of random numbers to a list. It just records how long the script takes to run each time. There are a series of 'send in times' so that the results can be averaged, and it can be run whilst nothing else is running. I would think the script in the 'start' button is pretty self-explanatory. If anyone else has any other benchmarks, I'd be grateful to see them. Mine seems pretty simple to me, and tests nothing more than a few functions, looping and adding to lists. It will only make any sense if you run the script on the same hardware, using a version of Rev = 3 and a version of Rev 3. Bernard On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Colin Holgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 5, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: Downloaded your test stack and could open it under WindowsXP, but could not get it to run. Could you provide a version of your stack that is able to run tests for platforms other than Linux, too? The file downloaded named as perf-test-leg.rev.sh. You would want to rename it to perf-test-leg.rev. When you run it, it takes 80 seconds before anything happens, and over 6 minutes to do the whole test. On my Mac the numbers it showed were 21. I guess that lower is better? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: virtual desktops in linux, very weird
To be honest Peter, I do have sympathy for Rev in this regard. The number of desktop/WM programs is quite varied in Linux compared with say Windows or OS X. I know that there are a small percentage of Windows users who might run weird desktops/application launchers instead of the Explorer interface, and maybe the same thing can be done for OS X. But they are a tiny percentage, and it is reasonable that things might break with these exceptions. Yet much of the terrain of Linux is varied (as you have pointed out a few days ago), so there are just a lot more exceptions. I don't think it is reasonable for me to expect Runrev to test out every permutation on Linux. For example, today I entered a bug report because the File Open window works correctly in Debian/Ubuntu, but doesn't work correctly in Fedora 8. I marked it as 'minor', because there is a workaround (don't use that part of File Open, or don't use Fedora 8). That's fine for us developers working within the IDE, not so fine for end users. I'm assuming that Runrev's developers have used a standard API call to show the open file dialog. And probably they tested it worked in Ubuntu or Debian. I can't really blame them if that same API call doesn't work in Fedora (even if the API seems to work for every other app in Fedora). Also, I note in http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5789 that Rev seems to exhibit different behaviour in Ubuntu than in Debian or Fedora, with regard to the initial and subsequent position of the menubar on startup. I don't know again if this is due to a Linux API being inconsistent, or if there is some conditional coding inside Rev to make it behave in different ways depending on the environment it is running within. It would be nice if multiple virtual desktops worked with the IDE. I know it works for the windows of other Linux apps, and I've heard Rev works with OS X's virtual desktops. But I'm focussing my energy on the fact that Rev 3.0 hangs, crashes and leaks memory. I've given up for lost the hope of having it work on virtual desktops. I'm going to use an external editor with stsmlxEditor, and I have Bjoernke's docu working as a standalone so I don't have to position the dictionary. Bernard On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Peter Alcibiades [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, finally tested this on exactly the same machine, but with WindowMaker and Fluxbox. In both cases it works fine. You can put either the dictionary, the stack you're working on, the editor, the property inspector all on different windows. You can then drag and create a button lets say, do 'edit script' and when you flip back to the workspace where the script editor is, there it is waiting to be edited. If memory is correct, this was also the situation with 2.9. Maybe this was why I at first thought it was working, must have been using Fluxbox. Yet on Gnome it doesn't work at all. You can move windows to other desktops, but as soon as you go to the other desktop, back they flash to the one with the Rev menubar on it. It will probably not work on KDE as it did not in 2.9 either. How can this be, that it works in WM and Fluxbox, but not in Gnome, when nothing else has changed? This is apart from the WM being used, exactly the same config in all cases. I am not restarting, just signing off and then signing on again. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/virtual-desktops-in-linux%2C-very-weird-tp19825390p19825390.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re:Time for a break
Mark Wieder wrote: You know you've been doing too much coding when: ...you're in the middle of writing an email message and you press the tab key to format a paragraph... You probably will not believe this one but its true! When drawing in a graphics app I constantly keep two fingers over control+Z to cancel the last drawn or painted line to correct my mistakes. When I turned to real-world modelling in clay and my hand slipped, I actually reached for the non existant keys! Habits are hard to loose! Barry Barber ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Notification of internet use in Rev standalone
Hi Rick: I'm developing a rev app named ExamMaster where users take exams on a Mac (perhaps unsupervised), and I want to deter them from looking up answers on the internet. I certainly don't think of this as spyware. Paul Gabel -- On Oct 4, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi Paul, Isn't this like spyware? I'm sure there is probably a way to do it, but why do you want to do it? If you are looking for ways to protect your software there are a few methods you can use that don't involve creating spyware. Let me know! Rick On Oct 4, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Paul Gabel wrote: Hi everybody: My stack structure is a mainstack splash screen and three substacks. Within a Rev standalone, is there any way to be notified if the user opens a web browser or attempts to write an email with a non-Rev application? Is there any way to prevent it? on resumeStack is not helpful in my case, as, if placed in the mainstack (which is hidden by now), it is not triggered when I come back from a web browser. I can't place on resumeStack in a substack, because I am constantly going back and forth between them, and, even in a standalone, it is triggered. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions (or even being told to forget the whole idea). Paul Gabel Mac OS X 10.5.5 Rev 3.0 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Notification of internet use in Rev standalone
Thanks, Phil. Your suggestions look useful. I'll try them out. Paul Gabel -- On Oct 4, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Hi Paul, The suspend and resume messages might be more what you're looking for. They're sent when your Rev app loses/gains focus as the frontmost app currently running. There's always shell() to get info from the OS. For example, to get all apps in the Applications folder that are running, you can do this: on mouseUp put shell(ps -A) into tData filter tData with */Applications/* put tData into fld 1 end mouseUp Then you would at least what apps are running. On the Mac there's probably something you can do with AppleScript to find out what's running, but someone else will have to address that. The only way I can think of to really prevent net access outside of Rev is to run a proxy server on the client that is set up to do that. If you'll be using shell() much, you might find this Rev plug-in useful: http://pdslabs.net/stacks/Shell_Command_Help.rev.zip HTH - Phil Davis Paul Gabel wrote: Hi everybody: My stack structure is a mainstack splash screen and three substacks. Within a Rev standalone, is there any way to be notified if the user opens a web browser or attempts to write an email with a non-Rev application? Is there any way to prevent it? on resumeStack is not helpful in my case, as, if placed in the mainstack (which is hidden by now), it is not triggered when I come back from a web browser. I can't place on resumeStack in a substack, because I am constantly going back and forth between them, and, even in a standalone, it is triggered. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions (or even being told to forget the whole idea). Paul Gabel Mac OS X 10.5.5 Rev 3.0 -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time for a break
On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: You know you've been doing too much coding when: ...you're in the middle of writing an email message and you press the tab key to format a paragraph... In the current issue of The Atlantic, in the Word Fugitives column: Now Michael McWatters, of New York City, writes, “I use a computer for the better part of my waking life, and I’ve noticed that certain repetitive keyboard tasks are making their way into my noncomputer life. For example, I recently knocked a jar off the counter, and a little voice inside yelped, Command-Z! (the keyboard shortcut for Undo). Ditto for the time I accidentally ripped a page in a book. A friend mentioned that she recently lost her keys and thought, Command-F (Find). There should be a term for this confusion, as it’s only going to become more common.” t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Notification of internet use in Rev standalone
Hi Paul, At one point, I was just curious about when my app was being suspended or resumed, so I inserted some noise in those instances; just beeps, but you could do something more elaborate, assuming there was some one in earshot, or perhaps, write something to a special file when this happened; something you could check on later possibly? If this makes any sense, Joe Wilkins On Oct 5, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Paul Gabel wrote: Hi Rick: I'm developing a rev app named ExamMaster where users take exams on a Mac (perhaps unsupervised), and I want to deter them from looking up answers on the internet. I certainly don't think of this as spyware. Paul Gabel -- On Oct 4, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi Paul, Isn't this like spyware? I'm sure there is probably a way to do it, but why do you want to do it? If you are looking for ways to protect your software there are a few methods you can use that don't involve creating spyware. Let me know! Rick On Oct 4, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Paul Gabel wrote: Hi everybody: My stack structure is a mainstack splash screen and three substacks. Within a Rev standalone, is there any way to be notified if the user opens a web browser or attempts to write an email with a non-Rev application? Is there any way to prevent it? on resumeStack is not helpful in my case, as, if placed in the mainstack (which is hidden by now), it is not triggered when I come back from a web browser. I can't place on resumeStack in a substack, because I am constantly going back and forth between them, and, even in a standalone, it is triggered. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions (or even being told to forget the whole idea). Paul Gabel Mac OS X 10.5.5 Rev 3.0 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Notification of internet use in Rev standalone
Hi Paul, Probably, you should make ExamMaster a kiosk application. Btw, did you get my e-mail? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 5 okt 2008, at 20:52, Paul Gabel wrote: Hi Rick: I'm developing a rev app named ExamMaster where users take exams on a Mac (perhaps unsupervised), and I want to deter them from looking up answers on the internet. I certainly don't think of this as spyware. Paul Gabel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time for a break
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: You know you've been doing too much coding when: ...you're in the middle of writing an email message and you press the tab key to format a paragraph... You probably will not believe this one but its true! When drawing in a graphics app I constantly keep two fingers over control+Z to cancel the last drawn or painted line to correct my mistakes. When I turned to real-world modelling in clay and my hand slipped, I actually reached for the non existant keys! Habits are hard to loose! Barry Barber No, not hard to believe. In periods of intense Mac use, back in the day, I several times caught myself looking for the Trash icon that surely ought to be in the bottom right hand corner of the real world. ;-) Martin Baxter -- I am Not a Number, I am a free NaN ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Faxing (again)
Thanks -- I see that hint had 12,000 + views. it would be great if one of those viewers had constructed a RunRev fax stack that I could steal ideas from... On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William, have look here for hints on faxing using the command line (doable as a shell call). http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20031128150928128 Best, Mark -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
script abbreviations
Where is there a list of script abbreviations? It should be in the help dictionary somewhere. For example I know that itemDelimiter has an abbreviation but when you look it up you'd think it would be stated there in the definition but no. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac vs. Windows
Chipp Walters wrote: I use the @ sign all the time when accessing ftp on Windows XP and Vista. I'm not sure what your problem is. I think the problem is that the '@' sign is used in a convention that allows the username and password to be folded into the ftp URL; ie ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path In Ton's case, the username includes an @ sign. The code has to parse the string into those five parts (protocol, username, password, machine, path). If there are two '@' signs in the string, that's ambiguous. Arguably the surprise isn't that it throws things off on Windows; it's more surprising that it works on Mac. Certainly I think it's surprising that it's different on the two platforms, you'd think that this parsing would be in the libURL transcript code, rather than in some platform-specific engine code. But at any rate, the solution is to urlEncode the username and password when constructing such a URL (which will have the effect of replacing : with %3A, and @ with %40). - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac vs. Windows
Ben Rubinstein wrote: But at any rate, the solution is to urlEncode the username and password when constructing such a URL (which will have the effect of replacing : with %3A, and @ with %40). Er... like Dave Cragg already wrote. Must be more careful about the order I read messages... - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Auto-complete in the 3.0 script editor
I'm sure I'll feel a fool once it's pointed out to me, but can someone tell me how to access auto-complete in the new script editor? I assume it hasn't been removed as a feature, since the release notes say it has been improved; but I can't find a reference in the docs at all, the old key combos don't do it, and I can't figure what does. TIA, - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Auto-complete in the 3.0 script editor
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Visible and extra monitors.
Chipp Walters wrote: Dude, Just use my function posted last week: function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pStack -- pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF STACK if pStack is among the lines of windows() then if not the vis of stack pStack then return false if the blendlevel of stack pStack = 100 then return false repeat for each line L in the screenrects if the topLeft of stack pStack is within L then return true if the topRight of stack pStack is within L then return true if the bottomLeft of stack pStack is within L then return true if the bottomRight of stack pStack is within L then return true end repeat return false else return false end if end isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor 2 points here: 1. [OT] where I come from the word 'Dude' carries fairly negative connotations (well, maybe that was your intention), 2. SCREENRECTS - plural was introduced in Runtime Revolution 2.7 (i.e. Richmond spent a long time p*ss*ng around with 2.6.1 wondering what he was doing wrong!!!) This one has probably come up before . . . Possibly, an itemised table showing what commands are available in each version of Runtime Revolution should be drawn up to spare people with early versions a lot of time, and make them stump up the money for newer versions. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visible and extra monitors.
Dude is surfer talk. The only negative connotation where I come from is all put on the speaker (meaning if you call someone Dude then you are from that class of skater boy/surfer/stoner people who call people Dude). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: script abbreviations
william humphrey wrote: Where is there a list of script abbreviations? It should be in the help dictionary somewhere. For example I know that itemDelimiter has an abbreviation but when you look it up you'd think it would be stated there in the definition but no. It's in the synonyms section, above see also. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visible and extra monitors.
I have never heard of Dude as a negative connotation!!! Richmond, where do you come from that it is? Tom McGrath III On Oct 5, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: 2 points here: 1. [OT] where I come from the word 'Dude' carries fairly negative connotations (well, maybe that was your intention), ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac vs. Windows
Ben, Dave, Thanks for the help. Clear now :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Fwd: script abbreviations
I see it for each individual thing you look up now. Thanks. I just thought there would be a list of all the synonyms somewhere. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Visible and extra monitors.
I come from the North-East of Scotland. Frankly 'Dude' sounds like 'Dud'. However, the point about SCREENRECTS was more important. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visible and extra monitors.
Perhaps you haven't seen the movie the Big Lebowski. It explains all about the 'Dude'. : I come from the North-East of Scotland. Frankly 'Dude' sounds like 'Dud'. However, the point about SCREENRECTS was more important. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visible and extra monitors.
Agreed, I was just curious. Thanks for answering. Regards, Tom McGrath On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:38 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: However, the point about SCREENRECTS was more important. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
