Re: a php relay to either rev cgi or onrev

[Bernard Devlin]

Years ago Pierre Sahores built an application server based on Rev.  He
used Apache/PHP as the front end, then used socket connections between
PHP and Rev so that a long-running Rev process could interact with
databases, and return the results via PHP to Apache.

There is a lot to recommend in his design.  He has a tutorial (in
french and english) here:
http://www2.sahores-conseil.com/insead/index_en.html

I can imagine you may not need the whole infrastructure he had in
mind, but getting the Apache/PHP/Rev stuff to work sounds like it
might be what you want, and from what I remember when I followed his
tutorial a couple of years ago, it was all straightforward.

Bernard

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:
> After much testing and frustation, I've discovered that the on-rev
> server is unable to read the $_POST array when sent by WAP/WML-based
> Japanese cellphones to an .irev script.
>
> As a workaround, I've make a .php script that can read in $_POST. The
> next step is using php to forward the $_POST data to an .irev or
> rev-cgi script -- assuming of course that such a thing is possible.
> But, I really want to avoid having to learn (any more!) php, so am
> instead posting this somewhat off-topic request for help.
>
> Has someone tried to use php to relay data to .irev/rev-cgi?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
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Re: a php relay to either rev cgi or onrev

[Jim Ault]

On Jul 27, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:


After much testing and frustation, I've discovered that the on-rev
server is unable to read the $_POST array when sent by WAP/WML-based
Japanese cellphones to an .irev script.

As a workaround, I've make a .php script that can read in $_POST. The
next step is using php to forward the $_POST data to an .irev or
rev-cgi script -- assuming of course that such a thing is possible.
But, I really want to avoid having to learn (any more!) php, so am
instead posting this somewhat off-topic request for help.

Has someone tried to use php to relay data to .irev/rev-cgi?


Use PHP to extract the parts of the array you need, and then do a  
$_POST or $_GET to the irev/cgi using the desired variable names, just  
like you would if you were going to use PHP to navigate to another web  
page and pass variables to that page.  You might have to encode the  
characters before sending them to irev/cgi to be successful.


For example:
http://subdomain.on-rev.com/area/targetStack.irev?var1=dateStr&var2=timeStr&var3=contentStr&var4=otherDataStr

Then setup the 'targetStack' to look for both the GET & POST using the  
one that is not empty.  Now it can handle both methods of data arriving.


In August I will start working with my On-Rev account.  I have not  
actually done this, so hopefully this will point you in a useful  
direction.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas
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Re: Fields appearance

[Paul Gabel]

Bill:

Here's a thought about upgrading the appearance of your fields (but  
not about rounded corners). Drag a datagrid from the palette, set it  
to the size of your field, then capture its image with command- 
shift-4. Import the image, then place it behind your field. Set the  
textHeight of your field to 21. This looks very nice.


Paul Gabel

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On Jul 26, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

Is there a way to modify the appearance of a field beyond what I can  
do in the properties?


For example, I'd like to round the corners of the field. The only  
way I know how to do it is to put a graphic over the field that has  
rounded corners but that seems pretty tedious and clunky.


The look of the fields seems a bit dated so I'd like to dress them up.

Bill Vlahos
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a php relay to either rev cgi or onrev

[Nicolas Cueto]

After much testing and frustation, I've discovered that the on-rev
server is unable to read the $_POST array when sent by WAP/WML-based
Japanese cellphones to an .irev script.

As a workaround, I've make a .php script that can read in $_POST. The
next step is using php to forward the $_POST data to an .irev or
rev-cgi script -- assuming of course that such a thing is possible.
But, I really want to avoid having to learn (any more!) php, so am
instead posting this somewhat off-topic request for help.

Has someone tried to use php to relay data to .irev/rev-cgi?

Thanks.

--
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
> Fellow editors of scripts,
>
> I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as have all
> of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new script editor. As
> a developer of a third-party suite of development tools, this created new
> opportunities for our little company (me and the Missus).
>
> The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN the IDE,
> but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance script editor
> that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It communicates with Revolution
> via a small plugin using sockets.
>
> We made a video showing it in action:
>
>   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie


RAWR!

Watch it.
Buy it.
It's great :-)


Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

[Jerry Daniels]

Stephen,

Breakpoints already resolve to tRev. Proof of concept DONE. Yes, it  
will work.


Even without a debugger, I can work faster in tRev. But it is a  
choice, of course.


Enjoy the video...it's a hoot.

When you're ready to buy tRev click here:

   http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/

Say HI to San Francisco for me!

Jerry
http://reveditor.com

On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:13 PM, stephen barncard wrote:


Hi Jerry,
I have an early beta of T-Rev and it is indeed fast.
Now what we need is a fast, responsive debugger to go with it. Can  
you make

your new method work for that function?

-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://barncard.com


2009/7/27 Jerry Daniels 


Fellow editors of scripts,

I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as  
have

all of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new script
editor. As a developer of a third-party suite of development tools,  
this

created new opportunities for our little company (me and the Missus).

The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN  
the IDE,
but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance script  
editor
that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It communicates with  
Revolution

via a small plugin using sockets.

We made a video showing it in action:

 http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie

This new approach to script editing is called tRev (TEE-rev). It is  
very
fast. And it is incredibly stable. I have not had it crash once in  
nearly a
month of heavy use. Other early adopters are reporting the same  
result.


Here's what it does for you:
- compiles
- handles compile errors
- responds immediately to execution errors (without locking up)
- sports twenty tabs
- provides inline auto-completion (clairvoyance)
- updates any or all of its components (has 25 components) without
restarting
- automatically checks for updates on your behalf
- offers no-click inspection from either Rev or itself
- makes itself transparent so you can inspect THROUGH it
- archives up to 30 copies of the stacks you are editing
- lives in its own space without any IDE conflicts

You should click this link to watch the video:

 http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie

You should click the link below to buy a pre-release version from the
RevSelect store:

http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/

Start the popcorn popping and enjoy our block-buster movie!

Best,

Jerry Daniels
http://reveditor.com
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

[stephen barncard]

Looks great, Jerry. I've supported this concept editor for a long time in
theory and I'm glad you got it working so well. My early beta rocks, now I
guess I have to step up to the plate.

Arg. I have to order through the ghastly Rev ordering pages (it doesn't know
who I am), and I'm sure my bank and VISA is going to refuse the attempt. RBS
doesn't have a good reputation over here I guess. I really hate having to
call the bank EACH time I make a purchase at the Rev store.
Are you guys going to have some kind of EASY payment system someday, at
least for the third party items like this
one? This is like the third degree all over again.  It would seem that the
hassle factor would kill off some of the business, no?

No Paypal?

-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://barncard.com


2009/7/27 stephen barncard 

> Hi Jerry,
> I have an early beta of T-Rev and it is indeed fast.
> Now what we need is a fast, responsive debugger to go with it. Can you make
> your new method work for that function?
>
> -
> Stephen Barncard
> San Francisco
> http://barncard.com
>
>
> 2009/7/27 Jerry Daniels 
>
> Fellow editors of scripts,
>>
>> I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as have
>> all of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new script
>> editor. As a developer of a third-party suite of development tools, this
>> created new opportunities for our little company (me and the Missus).
>>
>> The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN the
>> IDE, but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance script
>> editor that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It communicates with
>> Revolution via a small plugin using sockets.
>>
>> We made a video showing it in action:
>>
>>   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
>>
>> This new approach to script editing is called tRev (TEE-rev). It is very
>> fast. And it is incredibly stable. I have not had it crash once in nearly a
>> month of heavy use. Other early adopters are reporting the same result.
>>
>> Here's what it does for you:
>> - compiles
>> - handles compile errors
>> - responds immediately to execution errors (without locking up)
>> - sports twenty tabs
>> - provides inline auto-completion (clairvoyance)
>> - updates any or all of its components (has 25 components) without
>> restarting
>> - automatically checks for updates on your behalf
>> - offers no-click inspection from either Rev or itself
>> - makes itself transparent so you can inspect THROUGH it
>> - archives up to 30 copies of the stacks you are editing
>> - lives in its own space without any IDE conflicts
>>
>> You should click this link to watch the video:
>>
>>   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
>>
>> You should click the link below to buy a pre-release version from the
>> RevSelect store:
>>
>>  http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/
>>
>> Start the popcorn popping and enjoy our block-buster movie!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jerry Daniels
>> http://reveditor.com
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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

[stephen barncard]

Hi Jerry,
I have an early beta of T-Rev and it is indeed fast.
Now what we need is a fast, responsive debugger to go with it. Can you make
your new method work for that function?

-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://barncard.com


2009/7/27 Jerry Daniels 

> Fellow editors of scripts,
>
> I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as have
> all of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new script
> editor. As a developer of a third-party suite of development tools, this
> created new opportunities for our little company (me and the Missus).
>
> The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN the IDE,
> but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance script editor
> that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It communicates with Revolution
> via a small plugin using sockets.
>
> We made a video showing it in action:
>
>   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
>
> This new approach to script editing is called tRev (TEE-rev). It is very
> fast. And it is incredibly stable. I have not had it crash once in nearly a
> month of heavy use. Other early adopters are reporting the same result.
>
> Here's what it does for you:
> - compiles
> - handles compile errors
> - responds immediately to execution errors (without locking up)
> - sports twenty tabs
> - provides inline auto-completion (clairvoyance)
> - updates any or all of its components (has 25 components) without
> restarting
> - automatically checks for updates on your behalf
> - offers no-click inspection from either Rev or itself
> - makes itself transparent so you can inspect THROUGH it
> - archives up to 30 copies of the stacks you are editing
> - lives in its own space without any IDE conflicts
>
> You should click this link to watch the video:
>
>   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
>
> You should click the link below to buy a pre-release version from the
> RevSelect store:
>
>  http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/
>
> Start the popcorn popping and enjoy our block-buster movie!
>
> Best,
>
> Jerry Daniels
> http://reveditor.com
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tooltip blocks mouseleave

[Martin Koob]

I have a bunch of line graphics on a stack 
that have a mouseenter and mouseleave handler 
which change the color of the graphic to indicate 
the mouse is over the graphic.  
Mouseenter changes it to blue mouseleave 
changes it to green.

This worked well until  I added tooltips to the graphics.  
Now, if I move the mouse quickly 

across a number of graphics it looks like the 
mouseleave does not always trigger some 
of the graphics remain blue.  It appears that 
the  displaying of the tooltip is interfering 
with  the mouseleave message.  Moving the 
mouse slowly across does not result in the 
behavior so it seems there is not time to 
process both the tooltip display and the 
mouseleave message when the mouse 
moves quickly across.

Any suggestions as to how to resolve this s
hort of removing the tooltips from 
the graphics?

Martin






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Re: [ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

[Andre Garzia]

I have it and it is FAST!

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote:
> Fellow editors of scripts,
>
> I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as have all
> of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new script editor. As
> a developer of a third-party suite of development tools, this created new
> opportunities for our little company (me and the Missus).
>
> The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN the IDE,
> but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance script editor
> that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It communicates with Revolution
> via a small plugin using sockets.
>
> We made a video showing it in action:
>
>   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
>
> This new approach to script editing is called tRev (TEE-rev). It is very
> fast. And it is incredibly stable. I have not had it crash once in nearly a
> month of heavy use. Other early adopters are reporting the same result.
>
> Here's what it does for you:
> - compiles
> - handles compile errors
> - responds immediately to execution errors (without locking up)
> - sports twenty tabs
> - provides inline auto-completion (clairvoyance)
> - updates any or all of its components (has 25 components) without
> restarting
> - automatically checks for updates on your behalf
> - offers no-click inspection from either Rev or itself
> - makes itself transparent so you can inspect THROUGH it
> - archives up to 30 copies of the stacks you are editing
> - lives in its own space without any IDE conflicts
>
> You should click this link to watch the video:
>
>   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie
>
> You should click the link below to buy a pre-release version from the
> RevSelect store:
>
>  http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/
>
> Start the popcorn popping and enjoy our block-buster movie!
>
> Best,
>
> Jerry Daniels
> http://reveditor.com
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[ANN] Watch a video about a whole new approach to script editing

[Jerry Daniels]

Fellow editors of scripts,

I have really enjoyed the great new features in Rev 3.5 and 4.0, as  
have all of us. One of those improvements came in the form of a new  
script editor. As a developer of a third-party suite of development  
tools, this created new opportunities for our little company (me and  
the Missus).


The big opening we saw in Revolution's new IDE was actually not IN the  
IDE, but OUTSIDE of it. We wrote a new, compact, high-performance  
script editor that lives entirely outside of Revolution. It  
communicates with Revolution via a small plugin using sockets.


We made a video showing it in action:

   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie

This new approach to script editing is called tRev (TEE-rev). It is  
very fast. And it is incredibly stable. I have not had it crash once  
in nearly a month of heavy use. Other early adopters are reporting the  
same result.


Here's what it does for you:
- compiles
- handles compile errors
- responds immediately to execution errors (without locking up)
- sports twenty tabs
- provides inline auto-completion (clairvoyance)
- updates any or all of its components (has 25 components) without  
restarting

- automatically checks for updates on your behalf
- offers no-click inspection from either Rev or itself
- makes itself transparent so you can inspect THROUGH it
- archives up to 30 copies of the stacks you are editing
- lives in its own space without any IDE conflicts

You should click this link to watch the video:

   http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie

You should click the link below to buy a pre-release version from the  
RevSelect store:


  http://runrev.com/products/related-software/trev-editor/

Start the popcorn popping and enjoy our block-buster movie!

Best,

Jerry Daniels
http://reveditor.com
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Writing Externals for Rev in Xcode

[Kevin]

I'm trying to figure out how to write an external for Revolution. I'm  
familiar with incorporating externals into a Revolution stack and  
calling them from the Revolution side. From the Xcode side, I would  
like to accomplish something very simple, such as the "Hello, !"  
example posted on the RunRev site under "Tutorials":


http://www.runrev.com/developers/tutorials/advanced-externals-part-1/

In this example, the Externals Environment appears to be way out-of- 
date and the sample code will not compile in Xcode. Does anyone have  
any examples or up-to-date articles showing how to integrate Objective- 
C-based externals with Rev?


Cheers,

Kevin
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Re: Trapping the Option or Command keys

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:52 AM,  wrote:
> Sarah:
>
> Just curious. Do you use "command" instead of (good ol') "on"?
>

"command" was introduced in 3.? (3.5 I think) and I am gradually
training myself to use it.
The idea is that system messages still use "on", so you have "on
mouseUp", "on preOpenStack" etc.
But your own handlers use "command" instead of "on" to make it clearer
what's what.
"function" remains unchanged.

However it's just a matter of style, I don't think either way is
inherently more correct and as far as I know, RunRev is not going to
make either one compulsory any time soon.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Trapping the Option or Command keys

[DunbarX]

Sarah:

Just curious. Do you use "command" instead of (good ol') "on"?

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Re: Trapping the Option or Command keys

[Sarah Reichelt]

> I'm re-writing a hypercard stack in which buttons performed different
> functions if the OptionKey or CommandKey were down. I need the title and
> icon to change on all the buttons when either modifier key is down. Looking
> back in the archives it seems like it was a problem only on Macs. Is there a
> command now that will let me do this? The simplified interface I'm trying to
> re-create will allow a button that is bordering a text field to either read
> the contents of bordering text field with text-to-speech, record the
> student's voice or play back the recorded voice.

As other's have noted, on a Mac, there is no way to detect the
modifier keys being pushed until another key is pushed too.
When I have needed to do this, I set up a polling loop that checks the
state of the modifiers regularly and alters the buttons accordingly
e.g.

command checkModKeys
   if the commandkey is down then
  set the label of btn "Action" to "Play"
   else if the optionkey is down then
  set the label of btn "Action" to "Record"
   else
  set the label of btn "Action" to "Speak"
   end if

   if the pendingmessages contains "checkModkey" is false then
  send "checkModKeys" to me in 20 ticks
   end if
end checkModKeys

All you have to remember then is to send the first checkModKeys when
the card/stack opens and to stop the pending messages when it closes.

I have found that this works well without placing much load on the processing.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Revlet alternatives for launch, shell, externals, applescript, etc.

[Richard Miller]

I thought I would report that Kevin helped me solve this issue by 
pointing out that launch, shell and applescript currently work in a 
revlet as long as the appropriate security settings are check-marked in 
the Standalone Settings dialog. I probably should have caught that on my 
own earlier, but since I missed it, perhaps others might as well. 
Changing those settings enabled these three functions to work fine in a 
revlet (which gave me access to externals support through the back door 
by allowing the revlet to launch a separate invisible Rev standalone 
which had externals enabled).


Richard



Richard Miller wrote:
I need to run Trevor's enhanced quicktime external in a revlet. At 
this time, however, externals can't be run in a revlet. Not sure when 
that will change... by the official release in September perhaps?


As an alternative, it would work fine if I could have the revlet 
launch a separate Rev application that uses the external. But the 
"launch, shell and applescript" commands are disabled in the alpha 
version as well. I know there is an Internet Explorer "loophole" to 
start up an application through javascript, but this won't work in 
Safari or Firefox.


Does anyone know when revweb will be able to take advantage of an 
external?


Anyone have any creative ideas how I might (at this time) launch a Rev 
app from a revlet or an html page across IE, Firefox and Safari (or 
more precisely, incorporate an external into a revlet)?


I suppose I could just ask the user to start up a separate application 
when my revlet starts running, but this is not a very elegant solution.


Thanks.
Richard Miller
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Re: Trapping the Option or Command keys

[J. Landman Gay]

Richmond Mathewson wrote:


2.  The only 'problem' as far as I recall is that on a Mac the COMMAND key
(with a stylised apple on it) does the work of the CONTROL key in 
Windows.


Actually there's a bigger problem. Neither Mac OS nor Mac OS X send any 
keydown information about the Command or Control keys until a second 
letter is typed (same for Shift and Option too.) Rev can't generate 
keydown or rawkeydown messages on those because the OS doesn't notify 
the engine anything has happened.


The only way to see if those keys are being depressed on a Mac is to 
pair it with another system message, such as mouseEnter. Once you get a 
system message triggered, you can check the state of the key inside that 
handler ("if the commandkey is down...", etc.) I suppose one could use a 
mousemove handler to check the state. That would fire repeatedly, which 
may slow things down a bit, but probably not too much.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Trapping the Option or Command keys

[Richmond Mathewson]

Bill Ziegler wrote:



I'm re-writing a hypercard stack in which buttons performed different 
functions if the OptionKey or CommandKey were down. I need the title 
and icon to change on all the buttons when either modifier key is 
down. Looking back in the archives it seems like it was a problem only 
on Macs. Is there a command now that will let me do this? The 
simplified interface I'm trying to re-create will allow a button that 
is bordering a text field to either read the contents of bordering 
text field with text-to-speech, record the student's voice or play 
back the recorded voice.


Thanks,

Bill Ziegler
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1.  Download my "KeyDowner" stack:

http://mathewson.110mb.com/FILEZ/KEYDOWNER.rev.zip

play around with it on Mac and Win.

2.  The only 'problem' as far as I recall is that on a Mac the COMMAND key
(with a stylised apple on it) does the work of the CONTROL key in 
Windows.


   So DON'T have settings for both COMMAND and CONTROL keys.
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Re: mac and pc text file

[Richmond Mathewson]

Yves COPPE wrote:

Hi list


I've made a soft which create a texte file
The problem is that if this text file is saved on a Pc and then read 
on a mac, some characters are not readable
How can I make a script that saves a text contained in a variable to a 
text file with the same characters on mac AND on windows ?


Thanks.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be



Personally I would use Unicode then you won't have the problem
between Mac-ASCII and Win-ASCII.

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Re: mac and pc text file

[Devin Asay]

On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Yves COPPE wrote:


Hi list


I've made a soft which create a texte file
The problem is that if this text file is saved on a Pc and then read
on a mac, some characters are not readable
How can I make a script that saves a text contained in a variable to a
text file with the same characters on mac AND on windows ?


Yves,

The problem is that Mac and Windows use different character sets for  
characters > ASCII 127. The Mac's character set is called MacRoman and  
Windows uses Windows-1252, which is nearly identical the the standard  
ISO Latin 1 (8859-1).


Check out the macToISO and ISOtoMac functions in the dictionary. They  
let you convert upper-ASCII characters so they display properly on the  
current platform.


Regards,

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Trapping the Option or Command keys

[Bill Ziegler]

I'm re-writing a hypercard stack in which buttons performed different  
functions if the OptionKey or CommandKey were down. I need the title  
and icon to change on all the buttons when either modifier key is  
down. Looking back in the archives it seems like it was a problem only  
on Macs. Is there a command now that will let me do this? The  
simplified interface I'm trying to re-create will allow a button that  
is bordering a text field to either read the contents of bordering  
text field with text-to-speech, record the student's voice or play  
back the recorded voice.


Thanks,

Bill Ziegler
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mac and pc text file

[Yves COPPE]

Hi list


I've made a soft which create a texte file
The problem is that if this text file is saved on a Pc and then read  
on a mac, some characters are not readable
How can I make a script that saves a text contained in a variable to a  
text file with the same characters on mac AND on windows ?


Thanks.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Re: Load Screen

[Kevin Miller]

On 27/07/2009 01:06, "Sarah Reichelt"  wrote:

>> Does anyone know if, after 4.0 is released, we will be able to customize the
>> plug-in's splash/install screen? My assumption is that this will not be
>> permitted, but it would be nice to confirm.
> 
> I very much doubt that the installer would be customizable since that
> will be provided by RunRev.
> 
> I think the splash screen will be customizable, but this may only be
> for revEnterprise and not for revMedia.
> In the standalone settings for building for web, there is an option
> for custom load icon.
> And I haven't tested this, but I am assuming it alters the revlet
> loading screen.

Right. You'll be able to customize this loading scheme with your own logo
and color scheme in revStudio and revEnterprise. You won't be able to
customize it in revMedia. We don't plan to allow customization in the
installer.

Kind regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools


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Re: [revlets] drag & drop files onto revlet does not seem to work!?

[Devin Asay]

On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Robert M. wrote:



I wanted to test shell access cause I need to use lameEncoding, and  
tried to
turn the "lameEncode.rev" (who is the author by the way?) into a  
revlet.


I believe that was Mark Smith. See the use-rev archives for September  
2007. I saved the original message dated 2 Sept 2007.


Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?

[Kevin Miller]

On 27/07/2009 06:17, "James Hurley"  wrote:

>   I restarted my computer and Voila, it is a whole new ball game. It
> runs much more smoothly--surprisingly well in fact. Don't know what
> happened with the restart.
> 
> Only problem was I have to slow it down now. It ran much too fast.
> That was best done by adding another preference.
> 
> Set the Fast/Slow speed to about 45 and the Short/Long roll to .998
> 
> The new web url is
> 
> http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/NineBall2/test.html
> 
> 
> Note the 2.
> 
> This resolves the Nine Ball app, but not the Rainbow app. In that app,
> the torch graphic breaks up as I drag it.
> 
> Sarah: Should I report this and where to and in what form? The
> original RunRev desktop stack?

At least that stack is playing very well in my browser!

There is indeed a lot happening in the plugin with all the browser
communication going on. It is possible we will be able to optimize the
display somewhat by syncing what the browser is doing better with the
plugin. We've identified a number of possible optimizations and it will be a
question of what we can include in the first launched version. We'll be
looking at this as we progress through the testing process.

Kind regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools


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Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?

[James Hurley]

I should have reminded everyone that Scott Rossi did a graphics remake  
of the Nine Ball stack: those nice shinny balls and the wood grained  
table are his. (Well, my design of the circular black pockets  
survived. I'm so proud.)


I am astonished at how smoothly and effectively  this move to the  
webLets is going, particularly since this alpha release. Well done Rev!


I am so excited. Now I can expose myself on the Web.

So, off to get a raincoat,

Jim Hurley
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Re: Filter by Item and What gives with my field?

[Robert Brenstein]

On 26.07.09 at 16:23 -0700 Tom Cole apparently wrote:

Dear Group,

I have two items that I hope someone can help on. One is very 
straightforward: I need to filter a field by the items.
That is, I have a field with zillions of records with four items 
(comma delimited)


itemone,itemtwo,itemthree,itemfour

...

Second, I have a field that is full of TAB delimited records like this:

Southern Arizona Trip TAB 5/27/1973 TAB This was the trip when we 
got two flat tires in the middle of nowhere.


...



If you have zillions of records, then you should possibly consider 
using a real database engine to store the data. Then fetching 3 
columns in specific order or any sort of filtering and data selection 
becomes trivial.


You don't say how many records you have in the second case, but here 
database could also make things simpler, particularly the searching. 
In this case, displaying one record at a time with each item in its 
own field could be most optimal. For list view, you could have a 
truncated version of the long text with ellipsis (...) at the end.


Robert
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Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?

[Bernard Devlin]

There's a space between 'splash' and '21' the needs to be removed from the URL.

Bernard

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Richmond
Mathewson wrote:

>> http://splash 21.on-rev.com/plugin/test.irev
>> 
>>
> Not so good; Safari can’t find the server.
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Re: Windows font sizes

[GIRARD Damien]

Hi Bill,

Rev does not handle this, because it does not have a "strict" geometry 
manager.


By strict I mean that all object are locked by each other, the way to 
have that behaviour is one of the following:
- Write your resizing script inside the "resizestack" handler, and loop 
each object to set the right font/size.
- Or simply use NativeSpeak that has been designed for that. And in 
addition you can localize your application in any languages.


You can use freely NativeSpeak up to 15 objects or try it without 
limitation with the 30 days evaluation.

http://dampro.on-rev.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&Itemid=113

Note: I recommand you to read the documentation.

Best,

Damien Girard
Dam-pro CEO, France.

Bill Vlahos a écrit :


Windows has a feature that lets the user make their fonts 3 different 
sizes to make the "normal" font bigger. This allows them to have high 
resolution displays but make the text large enough to see.


Some programs handles this well and others don't. When a program 
doesn't handle it the text is bigger but no longer fits in the field 
dimensions.


How do Rev folks handle this? It needs to work on Mac and Linux.

Issues I see are not only making the fields taller and wider to 
accommodate the bigger size but perhaps even moving around the 
arrangement. This seems difficult at best. Perhaps someone has come up 
with an easy way to handle it.


Bill Vlahos
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Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?

[Richmond Mathewson]

splash21 wrote:
So far the plugin looks pretty damn good and I imagine it will only 
get better with the next release.
I've uploaded the Air Traffic Control game as a revlet and a quick 
animation stack and I like what I'm seeing!


http://splash21.on-rev.com/ATC/ATC.irev
Worked extremely well (well, except for the fact that I hadn't a clue 
when it came

to landing planes): G4 Mac, Safari

http://splash 21.on-rev.com/plugin/test.irev 




Not so good; Safari can’t find the server.



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Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?

[splash21]

So far the plugin looks pretty damn good and I imagine it will only get 
better with the next release.
I've uploaded the Air Traffic Control game as a revlet and a quick 
animation stack and I like what I'm seeing!


http://splash21.on-rev.com/ATC/ATC.irev
http://splash 21.on-rev.com/plugin/test.irev 





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AW: OT: Vista UAC behaviour

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Martin,
that's exact, what I know and how it behaves on all other Vista machines.
That's why I am so puzzled because of this machine
Thanks
Tiemo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Martin Blackman
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Juli 2009 06:36
> An: How to use Revolution
> Betreff: Re: OT: Vista UAC behaviour
> 
> I'm a Windows user not an expert, but once the app is installed
> properly it should not require UAC authorisation to start.
> 
> 2009/7/21 Tiemo Hollmann TB :
> >
> > When a customer of mine starts my app on Vista, the UAC pops up with the
> > well known message "an unidentified program wants access to your
> computer"
> > after granting, it quits, instead of launching the main exe of my app.
> >
> > This is not the setup, it's just the start of my app. The mysterious
> thing
> > is, that this is the very only Vista customer where this happens (up to
> now)
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Re: Any thoughts on speed limitations of Revlet?

[splash21]

With Vista and Chrome, even the first shot fired smoothly - plays really 
well.


Terry Judd wrote:

On 27/07/09 9:39 AM, "Mark Smith"  wrote:

  

Also here, on 2.2Ghz intel PB/Safari...apart from the first shot when
the plug-in is first loaded.



This was my experience also - first shot was really jerky but the rest were
smooth and fast.

Terry...

  

Best,

Mark

On 27 Jul 2009, at 00:28, stephen barncard wrote:



NINE BALL looks and works great here.  Mac G5 dual 2.5 ghzAwesome
ballistics and graphics.

-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
http://barncard.com


2009/7/26 James Hurley 

  

Unfortunately, if Richard is right about the bumpy behavior being
"natural
by-product of running inside the browser" , it does not look good for
porting games to a revlet.
Take a look at Nine Ball on the web:

http://jamesphurley.on-rev.com/NineBall/test.html

Not good at all.

Jim Hurley






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