Re: [teaser] Mac OS X external
Hi, I thought RR was being touted as the evolution of HyperCard? I have a hard time believing the dirty flag isn't supported natively. Are you saying it's not??? Look, I have a ton of cross-platform apps on my drive, but all of them use the dirty red button to indicate that the file has been touched. This is the kind of basic Mac OS X thing that RR should be putting in their product. Doesn't anyone hold RR to task over Mac OS Interface? -Art ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser] Mac OS X external
YES ! YES ! YES ! Bons souvenirs de Paris René Le 20 sept. 09 à 17:43, Shao Sean a écrit : Working on an external for helping Mac applications in Rev look and feel more like Mac OS X applications. Current features include: setWindowModified - toggles the dirty document flag on and off isWindowModified() - returns the state of the dirty document flag (boolean) setWindowProxy - adds a proxy icon to the title bar of the window Screen capture of a modified title bar: http://revdevelop.com/images/ssMacWindows.png -- Shao Sean http://www.RevDevelop.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: convert oddity
How about checking the epoch time on the server with date +%s ? 2009/9/20 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com I have a CGI which stores dates using internet date format. In one of my CGI routines I use the convert command to reformat the date into a more user-friendly form: convert tTimeStamp to long date and short time The oddity is that the convert command running on the server shows the time portion as 8 hours ahead of the value in the original timestamp. I've also used seconds instead of the internet date, with the same result. I've verified that the CGI is storing the correct timestamp, and when I run the same convert on my local machine it always converts correctly. Is there something odd about using the convert command in a CGI that I don't know about? FWIW, I'm not using the useSystemDate, and since the server is in my time zone that shouldn't affect it anyway. What am I missing? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser] Mac OS X external
Oh, By, Am I naive or what? For us naive types could somebody, Please, in a relatively simple way, explain what a dirty button/flag is? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser] Mac OS X external
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, By, Am I naive or what? For us naive types could somebody, Please, in a relatively simple way, explain what a dirty button/flag is? When a document needs to be saved, this is referred to as being dirty. Since this is a true/false setting, it is often called a flag. In Macs, if you look at a document in say, Text Edit, if it needs saving, the close close blob in the title bar will have a dark centre, so this is a dirty button. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser] Mac OS X external
On 21 Sep 2009, at 10:31, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Oh, By, Am I naive or what? For us naive types could somebody, Please, in a relatively simple way, explain what a dirty button/flag is? In the majority of document-based OS X apps, the saved status of the current document is visually shown in the title bar - if it's unsaved then there is a darker centre to the red 'close' button. TextEdit is a good example - open a new document, and watch the red button as you type in the first character. On 21 Sep 2009, at 07:27, Arthur Rann wrote: Hi, I thought RR was being touted as the evolution of HyperCard? I have a hard time believing the dirty flag isn't supported natively. Are you saying it's not??? Nope, never has been. Look, I have a ton of cross-platform apps on my drive, but all of them use the dirty red button to indicate that the file has been touched. I also have quite a few cross-platform apps, and apart from the 'big' ones like Photoshop, most of them *don't* use the dirty red button. :- ( It's highly dependant on the framework that the developer has been using, and if they are primarily Windows developers whether they are even *aware* of the feature. Doesn't anyone hold RR to task over Mac OS Interface? Apart from us? Who are you referring to? It's a feature I'd like, but apart from a couple of mentions on the list it doesn't seem to be that high a priority for people - there doesn't even appear to be a request for it in the QA centre. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser] Mac OS X external
It's a feature I'd like, but apart from a couple of mentions on the list it doesn't seem to be that high a priority for people - there doesn't even appear to be a request for it in the QA centre. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6213 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser] Mac OS X external
Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, By, Am I naive or what? For us naive types could somebody, Please, in a relatively simple way, explain what a dirty button/flag is? When a document needs to be saved, this is referred to as being dirty. Since this is a true/false setting, it is often called a flag. In Macs, if you look at a document in say, Text Edit, if it needs saving, the close close blob in the title bar will have a dark centre, so this is a dirty button. Cheers, Sarah ___ Thanks for a nice, clear explanation. I cannot help wondering why the word 'dirty' is used in these cases; surely 'unsaved' is much easier to understand (especially for folk like me!) Gosh, I'm even goofier than I thought I was; always wondered about those blobs! Mind you I normally remember when things need saving (about every 2 minutes) without any blobs. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Thinks: GameSalad
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/development_tools/gamesalad.html that's an interesting way to program! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Datagrid: speed question related to how it is working under the hood?
I've got a question about how commands like set the dgDataOfIndex work under the hood, and whether there are occasions where you would get speed increases by directly setting the value of an individual control in a record view. *First an introduction:* I've got a datagrid form I'm working on in which the data that makes up the individual form contents comes from a variety of web services - consequently the basic data comes over fast but the detailed contents (things like images and metadata) comes over much more slowly. The solution I'm trying to reimplement is based on asynchronously loading the additional data using load url with message. I can then display the datagrid fast, and with a toggle arrow allow the user to reveal the image and metadata when needed. If the metadata is still loading then I want to display some suitable dummy is loading content. The issue here is that if a hundred or more records are loaded into a datagrid, then we will have several hundred asynchronous loads being fired off and coming in all trying to update / redraw the datagrid one at a time. Naturally this will need the fastest possible technique for updating the display of the metadata - but we (probably) want to do this as the data comes in. *The questions:* If I uses set the dgDataOfIndex to update the display of an individual datagrid form record, does the underlying library only update the display associated with this one record, or does the library redraw all the currently displayed records? Would I be any better off speed wise directly setting the images / metadata of records using over using built in datagrid api calls? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
rawKeyDown and Unicode
'Tis michty queer: This works: on mouseUp set the useUnicode to true set the unicodeText of fld BLURB to the unicodeText of fld BLURB numToChar(2000) select after fld BLURB end mouseUp this appends the unicode char 2000 to my textField BUT this doesn't: on rawKeyDown RAWK set the useUnicode to true if RAWK = 0 then set the useUnicode to true set the unicodeText of fld BLURB to the unicodeText of fld BLURB numToChar(2000) select after fld BLURB end if pass rawKeyDown end rawKeyDown this appends the ascii equivalent (i.e. rem 2000) a richt scunner! Any helpful suggestions welcomed with open arms . . . :) sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: close a DataGrid
On Sep 20, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Beat Cornaz wrote: I want to close an open cell (field) in a datagrid dispatch CloseFieldEditor to grp DataGrid 1 -- does not work. This does not work either : put the long id of the target into tFieldEditor -- the target being that field dispatch CloseFieldEditor to grp dataGrid 1 with tFieldEditor I don't seem to find how to do it in the manuals and the older postings in this group. Use DeleteFieldEditor. There is a vague reference it on the API page under EditFieldText. Data Grid API: http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/spaces/revolution/manuals/datagrid/lessons/3461-Data-Grid-API -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Application Development with Revolution Course: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com/software/revproappdev/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tab for next cell in DataGrid
On Sep 20, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Beat Cornaz wrote: I repacked an application into the GLX framework and made new datagrids. Now the TAB button does not move from an open cell to the next cell and open it anymore, as it did in my older copy (pre GLX framework of this application). How can I get that behavior back? The Tab now closes the open cell and that's it. The GLX App Framework won't affect tabbing in data grids as it doesn't process any tabkey messages. Is it possible that an error is occurring in a CloseFieldEditor/ ExitFieldExitor or OpenFieldEditor message in your data grid? -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Application Development with Revolution Course: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com/software/revproappdev/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid: speed question related to how it is working under the hood?
On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:37 AM, David Bovill wrote: ... *The questions:* If I uses set the dgDataOfIndex to update the display of an individual datagrid form record, does the underlying library only update the display associated with this one record, or does the library redraw all the currently displayed records? Would I be any better off speed wise directly setting the images / metadata of records using over using built in datagrid api calls? The data grid will only redraw the row you altered. If the row isn't visible on screen then an offscreen control is created in order to determine the new height of the row but that is it. Keep in mind that if you don't use the data grid apis the height of the row can't be updated and your scrolling will be off. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Application Development with Revolution Course: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com/software/revproappdev/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[teaser2] Mac OS X external
I was hoping to have this fully working today before bed but it is not going to happen :-( Thank you for all the support during the development and work continues on adding new features so here is a sneak peek at what I was doing tonight.. http://revdevelop.com/images/ssMacWindows2.png ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
full screen
Don't know much about Windows command line, but if you can reset the screen from it, you could use shell() to run a shell script on open stack, and then reset it back with another on close stack. Mostly when I can't figure out how to get it done in Rev, the shell comes to the rescue. Or maybe you already thought of this and its not viable? Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Grouping - unexpected behaviour
I suppose others are used to this, but I haven't found anything in the RunRev docs: If I group two images or two graphics (or maybe other objects - I haven't tried), where one image is totally within the bounds of the other (for example, one is 640 x 480 and the other is 120 x 120 and the loc of each is the same), then the group turns out bigger than than the larger of the two images! There seems to be an invisible margin of 4 pixels all the way around the group, making the group 8 pixels wider and higher than the original largest image. Is this supposed to happen? I have not found a way to avoid it, and so if I want to maintain the size of my composite image I will have to crop it, which to me is totally unexpected. My group has no border, and AFAICS the boundingRect property has no influence on the situation. Can anyone explain why this is happening? TIA Graham ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
rawKeyDown and Unicode
Err . . . here I am replying to my own posting again: but, any other person out there who is loony enough to be mucking around with unicode might find the effects of my 7th cup of coffee useful . . . :) I wrote: - This works: on mouseUp set the useUnicode to true set the unicodeText of fld BLURB to the unicodeText of fld BLURB numToChar(2000) select after fld BLURB end mouseUp this appends the unicode char 2000 to my textField BUT this doesn't: on rawKeyDown RAWK set the useUnicode to true if RAWK = 0 then set the useUnicode to true set the unicodeText of fld BLURB to the unicodeText of fld BLURB numToChar(2000) select after fld BLURB end if pass rawKeyDown end rawKeyDown this appends the ascii equivalent (i.e. rem 2000) --- this ONLY doesn't work if the rawKeyDown value is 0 (zero). So: on rawKeyDown RAWK set the useUnicode to true if RAWK = 49 then set the useUnicode to true set the unicodeText of fld BLURB to the unicodeText of fld BLURB numToChar(2000) select after fld BLURB end if pass rawKeyDown end rawKeyDown works absolutely fine. - And to think that I never took any notice of my Philosophy Prof. burbling on about the dangers of inductive reasoning! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Grouping - unexpected behaviour
Graham Samuel wrote: If I group two images or two graphics (or maybe other objects - I haven't tried), where one image is totally within the bounds of the other (for example, one is 640 x 480 and the other is 120 x 120 and the loc of each is the same), then the group turns out bigger than than the larger of the two images! There seems to be an invisible margin of 4 pixels all the way around the group, making the group 8 pixels wider and higher than the original largest image. Is this supposed to happen? I have not found a way to avoid it, and so if I want to maintain the size of my composite image I will have to crop it, which to me is totally unexpected. My group has no border, and AFAICS the boundingRect property has no influence on the situation. Can anyone explain why this is happening? A new group will have its margins set to 4 by default. Setting the group's margins property to 0 after creation should take care of the issue. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Full screen?
On 21 Sep 2009, at 06:46, Arthur Rann wrote: I bet I could do this with an AppleScript, so that's my next test... I bet you can't. :-( If you can I'd love to hear about it. For OS X there *used* to be a third-party command line app called cscreen which would set the screen resolution, but it disappeared several years ago. That was the only way I'm aware of for changing resolution on OS X via AppleScript (via a shell call, at that). There was an OSAX for OS 8-9, but that's pretty much irrelevant by now. Even then, that changed the resolution in a way that would muck up all your other app windows and desktop layout. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Full screen?
Arthur Rann wrote: Hi, How do I make my RR stack run full screen? I don't want to stretch things to meet the screen, I want to enter a 'full screen mode' like most video games do, where it temporarily sets the user's monitor resolution to 1024x768 or something like that. This has been discussed many times over the years on this list including the wisdom of changing a user's resolution, as well as different ways to do it on PC and Mac. In Rev got to Help - Revolution Search Engine - Nable (Selectable from the second tab) and then type screen resolution and the green go button. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Grouping - unexpected behaviour
Richard- Monday, September 21, 2009, 7:59:49 AM, you wrote: A new group will have its margins set to 4 by default. Setting the group's margins property to 0 after creation should take care of the issue. Or you could change the margins of the templategroup before creation (and reset the templategroup afterwards). -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Datagrid: speed question related to how it is working under the hood?
Thanks - great to know. Will use the API calls with abandon :) 2009/9/21 Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:37 AM, David Bovill wrote: ... *The questions:* If I uses set the dgDataOfIndex to update the display of an individual datagrid form record, does the underlying library only update the display associated with this one record, or does the library redraw all the currently displayed records? Would I be any better off speed wise directly setting the images / metadata of records using over using built in datagrid api calls? The data grid will only redraw the row you altered. If the row isn't visible on screen then an offscreen control is created in order to determine the new height of the row but that is it. Keep in mind that if you don't use the data grid apis the height of the row can't be updated and your scrolling will be off. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Vote to disable image copying from password protected stacks
Visit report 8251 to vote for disable image copy from password protected stacks. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 To copy an image from a password protected stack, users just had to select the image and write in the message box: set the clipboarddata to the text of the selobj Then, to paste the image in a new stack, users create a new empty image object and type in the message box: set the text of the selobj to the clipboarddata Using this method, i was able to copy gif animations from a password protected stack. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vote-to-disable-image-copying-from-password-protected-stacks-tp25323494p25323494.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Need a Slide rule. Was: Two questions about trev
Dunbarx , I think it's cool! When I first started using rev I thought surely I'm overlooking something, because they can't possibly expect me to count characters to figure out where the problem is... Okay, that sentence makes me sound lazy, but I definitely think there's a need. -- AcidJazz -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Need-a-Slide-rule.-Was%3A-Two-questions-about-trev-tp25440293p25466104.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vote to disable image copying from password protected stacks
capellan wrote: Visit report 8251 to vote for disable image copy from password protected stacks. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 To copy an image from a password protected stack, users just had to select the image and write in the message box: set the clipboarddata to the text of the selobj Then, to paste the image in a new stack, users create a new empty image object and type in the message box: set the text of the selobj to the clipboarddata Using this method, i was able to copy gif animations from a password protected stack. Copy protection is always circumventable, so why bother? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Datagrid Drag and Drop
Hi List, I need use drag and drop between datagrids and others objects, how to begin? I need perform operations like exec sql sentences or print. Any tip about how begin to handle this? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Datagrid-Drag-and-Drop-tp25530401p25530401.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Full screen?
On Sep 20, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Arthur Rann wrote: Hi, So let me get this straight because I need to take this back with me to the dev team. You're saying that there's no built in way to actually go full screen, like most games do? I have in the back of my alleged mind that there was a libKiosk (maybe by Andre Garzia) that took care of such details. I have some ideas that would want to use such a thing. Was it just a hopeful dream? --Jerry J ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Full screen?
Jerry J wrote: On Sep 20, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Arthur Rann wrote: Hi, So let me get this straight because I need to take this back with me to the dev team. You're saying that there's no built in way to actually go full screen, like most games do? I have in the back of my alleged mind that there was a libKiosk (maybe by Andre Garzia) that took care of such details. I have some ideas that would want to use such a thing. Was it just a hopeful dream? --Jerry J BINGO: http://www.andregarzia.com/libKiosk.html I don't think it mucks about with screen resolution though. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Vote to disable image copying from password protected stacks
Capellan wrote: Visit report 8251 to vote for disable image copy from password protected stacks. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 To copy an image from a password protected stack, users just had to select the image and write in the message box: set the clipboarddata to the text of the selobj Then, to paste the image in a new stack, users create a new empty image object and type in the message box: set the text of the selobj to the clipboarddata Using this method, i was able to copy gif animations from a password protected stack. This is the way it has always been. The only thing protected is the scripts. Things like images, properties and custom properties are not. Given that: 1. You can encrypt and decrypt the custom properties and images of a protected stack from within the protected code of the stack itself. 2. Having these elements unprotected allows for updating the protected stack without having to unlock and relock it and therefore can be done on a user's machine. 3. In the case of a library stack, the stack can use itself for storage and be saved. I don't see what you are requesting as an advantage or desirable. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser] Mac OS X external
Le 21 sept. 2009 à 01:36, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : This is the price we pay for using a cross-platform tool. I can’t share your point of view on this. I can't see the reason which prevents from creating a button which respects the Apple Human Interface Guidelines for example. However you can set the font and with the new graphic effects, you can make gradient buttons. Of course I can, and I do it, but I prefer to spend time to develop, not to improve the elements of the interface. Tool bars are easy enough to make yourself, although allowing the standard customization would be a neat trick which I have never bothered with. (I never have enough options to need it.) Then you start running into the same issues that Rev has i.e. if you make your app look too much like a standard Mac app, then it won't look like a Windows app for Windows users, without a lot of effort on your part. I think this is what profiles are good for, but I never really got into using profiles. Sorry, but personally, I prefer to make a standard Mac app that it won't look like a Windows app for Windows users than the opposite ;-) Jérôme Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vote to disable image copying from password protected stacks
Le 7 sept. 2009 à 02:23, capellan a écrit : Visit report 8251 to vote for disable image copy from password protected stacks. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 To copy an image from a password protected stack, users just had to select the image and write in the message box: set the clipboarddata to the text of the selobj Then, to paste the image in a new stack, users create a new empty image object and type in the message box: set the text of the selobj to the clipboarddata Using this method, i was able to copy gif animations from a password protected stack. Even if you protect a gif animations, you can copy it with a screen capture when you use the stack. Jérôme -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vote-to-disable-image-copying-from-password-protected-stacks-tp25323494p25323494.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tab for next cell in DataGrid
Thanks for your kind answers, Trevor. On Sep 20, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Beat Cornaz wrote: I repacked an application into the GLX framework and made new datagrids. Now the TAB button does not move from an open cell to the next cell and open it anymore, as it did in my older copy (pre GLX framework of this application). How can I get that behavior back? The Tab now closes the open cell and that's it. Trevor wrote : The GLX App Framework won't affect tabbing in data grids as it doesn't process any tabkey messages. Is it possible that an error is occurring in a CloseFieldEditor/ ExitFieldExitor or OpenFieldEditor message in your data grid? I don't think that an error is occuring, as a test datagrid also has the same behavior (does not open the next cell on tabbing). I want with the insertion point in an open cell, with a tabKey open the next cell on the same line (and close the one that was open). So fill in a cell, hit tabKey, fill in next cell, etc. Is it a custom property I have to set? I don't think so, as I have not found it. So I tried to write a handler in the datagrid grp script (see below). I am sure that this is easy, but after a long search and many trys, I just can't find the last bit. I have the following handler, which works ok. I only need now to get the Column name of the open cell. How will I do that? dgHilitedLines gives me the LineNr, but how to get the name of the Column of the open cell ? on rawkeyDown tkey if tkey = 65289then -- tabkey get the dgHilitedIndexes of grp datagrid 1 put it into tLineNr -- HOW to get the Column Name of the open cell ?? -- for now to test the rest put Col 2 into tCol -- set the dgHilitedLines of grp DataGrid 1 to tLineNr dispatch EditCell to group DataGrid 1 with tCol, tLineNr -- et voila : on tabKey the next cell is opened end if pass rawkeyDown end rawkeyDown Many thanks warm greetings, Beat Cornaz ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Embedded switches?
I have to use either: 1. A multi-case switch statement with many sub-switch statements inside it, or 2. A multi-case switch statement with many IF . . . THEN statements inside it, or 3. Many IF . . . THEN statements with many IF . . . THEN statements inside them. Number 3. is obviously going to slow things down a ton! Should I choose 1. or 2 ? and why? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Embedded switches?
Richmond- Monday, September 21, 2009, 12:48:58 PM, you wrote: I have to use either: 1. A multi-case switch statement with many sub-switch statements inside it, or 2. A multi-case switch statement with many IF . . . THEN statements inside it, or 3. Many IF . . . THEN statements with many IF . . . THEN statements inside them. Number 3. is obviously going to slow things down a ton! Actually there's no speed penalty for if/then vs switch constructs. They compile down to the same comparisons. If you're going to be applying the same tests repeatedly then you may find a negligible difference, but overall I wouldn't worry about this. Should I choose 1. or 2 ? and why? I usually find that switch statements are more readable after the fact than nested ifs, but others may have other opinions about this. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re :I need to blink and carry on !
Hi from Paris, Thanks Stephen, thanks Jim - problem solved ! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rawKeyDown and Unicode
I would suggest trying it without passing the rawKeyDown message if you have already handled it i.e. if RAWK = 0 Cheers, Sarah Sent from my iPhone On 21/09/2009, at 11:17 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: 'Tis michty queer: This works: on mouseUp set the useUnicode to true set the unicodeText of fld BLURB to the unicodeText of fld BLURB numToChar(2000) select after fld BLURB end mouseUp this appends the unicode char 2000 to my textField BUT this doesn't: on rawKeyDown RAWK set the useUnicode to true if RAWK = 0 then set the useUnicode to true set the unicodeText of fld BLURB to the unicodeText of fld BLURB numToChar(2000) select after fld BLURB end if pass rawKeyDown end rawKeyDown this appends the ascii equivalent (i.e. rem 2000) a richt scunner! Any helpful suggestions welcomed with open arms . . . :) sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[teaser2] Mac OS X external
This is awesome! Can't wait for the finished article. Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Grouping - unexpected behaviour
Richard to the rescue again - thanks! IMHO the default setting of margins should be explained in some other place than under 'margins', because if you don't know what a margin is or that it exists for a group, you're stuffed. I have submitted a note to the docs for the 'group' command. Graham On 21 Sep 2009, at 19:00, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Message: 16 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:59:49 -0700 From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com Subject: To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: 4ab794e5.8010...@fourthworld.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Graham Samuel wrote: If I group two images or two graphics (or maybe other objects - I haven't tried), where one image is totally within the bounds of the other (for example, one is 640 x 480 and the other is 120 x 120 and the loc of each is the same), then the group turns out bigger than than the larger of the two images! There seems to be an invisible margin of 4 pixels all the way around the group, making the group 8 pixels wider and higher than the original largest image. Is this supposed to happen? I have not found a way to avoid it, and so if I want to maintain the size of my composite image I will have to crop it, which to me is totally unexpected. My group has no border, and AFAICS the boundingRect property has no influence on the situation. Can anyone explain why this is happening? A new group will have its margins set to 4 by default. Setting the group's margins property to 0 after creation should take care of the issue. -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Embedded switches?
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I have to use either: 1. A multi-case switch statement with many sub-switch statements inside it, or 2. A multi-case switch statement with many IF . . . THEN statements inside it, or 3. Many IF . . . THEN statements with many IF . . . THEN statements inside them. Number 3. is obviously going to slow things down a ton! Should I choose 1. or 2 ? and why? My usual rule is to use if for 2 or 3 options and switch if there are more optins. You can apply that to your embedded decisions also. I don't think you will notice much speed difference either way, so concentrate on making readable code that you can understand when you come back to it in a year's time. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser2] Mac OS X external
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: I was hoping to have this fully working today before bed but it is not going to happen :-( Thank you for all the support during the development and work continues on adding new features so here is a sneak peek at what I was doing tonight.. http://revdevelop.com/images/ssMacWindows2.png Looking great. Having the blob at the top right to toggle the toolbar would be another great feature. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser] Mac OS X external
This is the price we pay for using a cross-platform tool. I can’t share your point of view on this. I can't see the reason which prevents from creating a button which respects the Apple Human Interface Guidelines for example. Like you I am a Mac person, but as developers, we have to recognise that the majority of computers still run Windows. From RunRev's point of view, it would be commercial suicide to have their default look to be completely Apple HIG compliant, since this would make them very un-Windows like. They have done an excellent job of making default interface objects that look reasonably good on all platforms, but if you really want the Mac look feel, the you will either have to develop your own custom buttons, or switch to programming in XCode where the Interface Builder does everything in pure Mac mode. Sorry, but personally, I prefer to make a standard Mac app that it won't look like a Windows app for Windows users than the opposite ;-) That is purely a personal and commercial decision. No need to apologise for it :-) Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [teaser2] Mac OS X external
Looking great. Having the blob at the top right to toggle the toolbar would be another great feature. it is there and it does work :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
mouseRelease in Rev 4.0
I am working on an app that allows users to drag across a series of controls in order to operate on each one in turn when the mouse button comes up. I build a list of the selected controls by checking the mouseMove messages and on a mouseRelease (since the mouse pointer is no longer over the object that received the mouseDown), I loop through the list of selected controls and do what I need. This is working perfectly in Rev 3.0 3.5. In Rev 4.0, it's as if the mouseRelease message is only sent sometimes. especially, it doesn't seem to happen if I move too fast, but if I drag, then hover over the last control for a bit, then it works. Has anyone else noticed anything like this? And if so, is there a work-around? I need to re-write the code to take advantage of behaviors. Doing things a different way may avoid the problem, but it would be nice to solve anyway. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mouseRelease in Rev 4.0
Sarah Reichelt wrote: In Rev 4.0, it's as if the mouseRelease message is only sent sometimes. especially, it doesn't seem to happen if I move too fast, but if I drag, then hover over the last control for a bit, then it works. Has anyone else noticed anything like this? And if so, is there a work-around? I haven't noticed it in Rev but I see it constantly in the OS X Finder and other apps lately (and I'm not on Snow Leopard yet, so it must have been something in a recent system update.) Sometimes the file I'm dragging sticks to the mouse even after I've let up on the button and the ghost file moves around with the mouse until I click again. Very irritating. So maybe it isn't Rev's fault? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: F keys cross-platform?
Jim, Is there a list of common keyboard assignments like this? Bill Vlahos On Sep 19, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Jim Bufalini wrote: Richmond Mathewson: As rawKeyDown doesn't pick up keydowns such as SHIFT on Macintosh I am thinking of using F keys (specifically F1 and F2) to state-change in the Beta 2 version of my Sanskrit typewriter and wonder if using these 2 keys will make things go all wobbly on Windows? F1 is universally used by all programs on PC as the Help key, so I wouldn't use it for any other purpose than to launch your help, as a typical Windows user would expect this. Other raw function keys have different meanings depending on keyboard or program. However, to the best of my knowledge, keystrokes are only sent to the top window. So if your application is the top window, you can interpret the key any way you want. If your app is not on top, it won't receive the keystroke. Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
