RE: specialfolderpath(preferences) on windows
On 15 Apr 2010, at 5:23 am, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: No, it's not supported in Windows. Entering put specialFolderPath(Preferences) in the message box returns nothing in Windows. So your file would have gone into the root if you added a slash and your file name. On advice from folks in the forum, I use specialFolderPath(asup) on the Mac, and specialFolderPath(26) on Windows, and append a slash and my app name, to get the name of the folder to put my app preferences in. If the folder doesn't exist, I create it. Thanks, Paul, that makes sense, although I still can't find my wee file, and the standalone behaves as though it exists. Nothing in the root. Maybe this has exposed an unrelated bug in my scripting. Alternatively, maybe there is a hidden and undocumented Chamber of Secrets on Windows, containing my file and Douglas' missing left socks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] iPads delayed internationally
On 15/04/2010 08:35, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 15/04/2010 02:17, J. Landman Gay wrote: Sarah Reichelt wrote: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/04/14advisory_ipad.html If all you Americans who bought iPads could please return them ASAP, then maybe Steve would change his mind and I could get mine sooner. And then will you send me any extras you get? I'll be happy when I get my conference DVDs . . . :) You haven't yet? Last I asked, which was quite a while ago, RR said they'd all been sent, all the orders were completed. Better check with support, I guess. You should have received them a long time ago. Well, probably the demigods who are in charge of these things have punished me for making fun of the Bulgarian postal system, and they really have been 'snaffled'. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debian, Sidux, Ubuntu, reference distributions for Rev
Larry is correct. Ubuntu is Debian Beta. Fedora is Red Hat Beta. Nothing wrong with betas. They are not reference systems. People who want to use Ubuntu as a reference system, or Fedora for that matter, need to get specific. I suggested, and Larry seems to be suggesting, Debian Stable. You want to use Ubuntu as a reference distro, which release? How often are you going to change it? Every six months, when the new version comes out? You want to use Fedora, which release? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Debian-Sidux-Ubuntu-reference-distributions-for-Rev-tp1838336p1864202.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to make print card work in Linux: solved
This is what you do and do not do. First, you do not test this from the IDE in run mode. Because if you do, you'll discover that changes to the script have different effects when the app is launched from a startup stack or, probably, when compiled, from those it has when run from the IDE. Nor do you test it on anything but the identical configuration of the machine that will do the printing in real life. My problem all along has been to think that identical settings in the print parameters would lead to identical results on different machines. They do not. Also to think that identical results would be obtained from the IDE in run mode and from a launcher stack. They are not. This leads to all kinds of grief, as when you finally get a setting that works in the IDE on machine A, then move to machine B and run the app, and discover that it does something totally different. Instead what you do is start from whatever startup stack you are using to launch, or start up the compiled app. Then do the print. Make a note of the settings. Then close the stack, open it in the IDE, modify the settings, recompile if need be, close down Rev, start up from the startup stack or the compiled app, print again, make a note of the settings. This must be done on the actual computer and the actual display from which the print command will be run. Iterate, changing one parameter at a time, until it comes out more or less right. This took me the better part of a morning. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!
I just consigned windows to a read-only VM for ever. If it wasn't for Rev and it's failings on Linux, I wouldn't be running Windows at all. After getting a malware infection that disabled my AV and Windows Defender, and wouldn't let me reinstall AV (not even from safe mode), I restored the laptop from the official restore disks. That restore failed. Then I tried to install vanilla Vista. That failed (wouldn't accept the license number that came with the DVD, a DVD that came directly from Microsoft themselves). So I went back to use XP -- multiple BSODs, during the install. I considered getting Windows 7, but after reading the reviews over on Amazon, I decided I wasn't throwing more money at MS. I tried ubuntu 9.10. It asked a few questions, then installed in about 20 mins, everything working. Ten years ago it was so hard to get Linux up and running compared to Windows. Now the tables have turned. If it wasn't for their abusive monopoly position, there is no way MS would be able to get away with such rubbish. Bernard On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: Sounds like you got some hijacks or some other kind of malware. Look it over with Malware Bytes Anti-Malware. I haven't used Adaware in quite a few years, but it might give you some solutions as well. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/OT-Microsoft-is-really-annoying-tp1839949p1840457.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 79, Issue 28
What do I do? Rail against the fact that, sensibly, the engine translates all file references to one form, but fails to do so for many other utterly trivial differences. So, one is always forced to check for the OS (see the dictionary for all the ridiculous exceptions). Why? Why doesn't the engine, as with file paths, choose one style? It drives me nuts that in the IDE associated file references, for example, are different from that in the standalone, depending on the OS. That is just maddening, and also one reason I rarely produce standalones: in the IDE *almost* all remains constant over OSs. But create standalones and one spends way to much time compensating for silly differences over OSs that should not matter. To make the point clear that is is not just RunRev that maintains this nonsense. Take a look at this quintessential cross-platform app, R. You want to access text data in a rows by columns format on the clipboard by command in Mac OS X, you use: data.dat - read.table(pipe(pbpaste), header = TRUE), but on Windose, you use: data.dat - read.table(file(clipboard), header = TRUE). Why? Why wouldn't something so primitive be coded in the engine? Indeed, we all write a function in to handle the translation over systems, but, seriously, why should we have to? Same in RunRev. It it is a RunRev function or command, it should be identical over all systems. Period. If I see: ``how to do X on system y'' in RunRev, it should be followed by a single command for all systems. I admit, it is often no more than a switch command and a 3-line wrapper, but, really, why should it be even that? RunRev has probably spent more time writing the damn dictionary explanation of the exception than it would take to just make the the switch and 3-lines of code inherent in the code. On 2010-04-14, at 10:23 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Which brings up an interface question. My app lets users choose a folder and then displays the folder path in a field. I've never bothered to change it in the past, but now I'm wondering if I should translate all the slashes to backslashes just for display on Windows, and then change them back to regular slashes in the script when I need to work with the path. What do others do? -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to make print card work in Linux: solved
On 15/04/2010 11:05, Peter Alcibiades wrote: This is what you do and do not do. First, you do not test this from the IDE in run mode. Because if you do, you'll discover that changes to the script have different effects when the app is launched from a startup stack or, probably, when compiled, from those it has when run from the IDE. Nor do you test it on anything but the identical configuration of the machine that will do the printing in real life. My problem all along has been to think that identical settings in the print parameters would lead to identical results on different machines. They do not. Also to think that identical results would be obtained from the IDE in run mode and from a launcher stack. They are not. This leads to all kinds of grief, as when you finally get a setting that works in the IDE on machine A, then move to machine B and run the app, and discover that it does something totally different. Instead what you do is start from whatever startup stack you are using to launch, or start up the compiled app. Then do the print. Make a note of the settings. Then close the stack, open it in the IDE, modify the settings, recompile if need be, close down Rev, start up from the startup stack or the compiled app, print again, make a note of the settings. This must be done on the actual computer and the actual display from which the print command will be run. Iterate, changing one parameter at a time, until it comes out more or less right. This took me the better part of a morning. Peter Gosh; I'll crack out the headache pills first . . . :) Or, as a friend of mine said many years ago, Stuff that for a laugh. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!
On 15/04/2010 11:09, Bernard Devlin wrote: snip If it wasn't for Rev and it's failings on Linux, I wouldn't be running Windows at all. Wow! I wonder how many other RunRev developers that is true for? Hello! Hello! Hello! It is time the RunRev folk in Edinburgh sat up and took notice! I am pretty sure, even if only because of financial considerations, that when my PPC Macs go 'pop' the only thing that would stop me going 98% Linux is the second-rate nature of the RunRev version for Linux. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 79, Issue 28
On 15/04/2010 11:31, Vokey, John wrote: snip But create standalones and one spends way to much time compensating for silly differences over OSs that should not matter.snip Err . . . might not be a bad idea for the developers of RunRev to cease the endless, headlong rush for ever fancier innovations and iron all this out. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
No-asci chars from the on-rev CGI
I am facing a problem sending NO-ASCI chars with the rev CGI ( i. e. put ùàòè ) to a Rev application. When I receive a string containing chars with accent (i.e. ùàòè) from the Revolution CGI , I get strange chars. Example: put ùàòè I receive: ^:' How can I fix this? Thanks a lot Paolo Mazza ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No-asci chars from the on-rev CGI
paolo mazza wrote: I am facing a problem sending NO-ASCI chars with the rev CGI ( i. e. put ùàòè ) to a Rev application. When I receive a string containing chars with accent (i.e. ùàòè) from the Revolution CGI , I get strange chars. Example: put ùàòè I receive: ^:' How can I fix this? Try running the data through base64Encode when sending, and base64Decode on the receiving end. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] iPads delayed internationally
Jacque- Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 10:35:32 PM, you wrote: You haven't yet? Last I asked, which was quite a while ago, RR said they'd all been sent, all the orders were completed. Better check with support, I guess. You should have received them a long time ago. I don't knw about a long time ago... mine finally arrived last week. Overly packaged and with a broken plastic case, the the dvds seem all playable, so I'm happy. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No-asci chars from the on-rev CGI
Thank you Richard. I fixed everythingh and now my first application in the iPhone is running. Thanks a lot to everybody in this great list !!! All the best Paolo Mazza ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debian, Sidux, Ubuntu, reference distributions for Rev
What I think for once I can give a rational explanation that will untangle this on the mind of the thread readers is that while Larry and Peter are correct in the sense that both Fedora and Ubuntu are basically Debian beta and RH beta from an engineering point of view meaning that those distros are more inclined to put unstable and bleeding edge stuff then Debian and Red Hat so that anyone that prizes stableness and a conservative point of view should simply use Debian or RH and if they want bleeding edge packages then just install them over. This is all correct but what me, Richard and others are saying which is not getting thru is that we consider a reference platform to be the platform most probable to be used by our target customer base for Rev based tools and by that we basically mean the new average linux user. You are more prone to encounter an Ubuntu installation than a vanilla Debian one on the desktop, and yes we know that this is because of shiny and eye candy but who cares, this is what we will encounter and that is what we need our software to run. I was using linux when as not fashionable in Brazil in 1995 or something, I was 15, there was no Ubuntu, I had an infomagick bundle with slackware, pc linux pro and other oddities. In two days I fried my monitor due to bad refresh rate. That (along with my father complaints) led me to actually buy a Linux unleashed book the size of a small volkswagen and read it. Now, if I had Ubuntu that time, I would simply be running something useful and simple instead of working thru a 2000 pages book just to learn how to launch X with the correct configuration. Joe Linux will not know about Debian or Slackware, Joe Linux can't Bash, Joe Linux doesn't know his /etc/ but he uses his Linux computer thru synaptic and menus and he is fine. Most of us want to target that user, not sys admins or server stuff. Rev for linux desktop will cather to that guy. Thats why we need to make sure things run on the kind of machine he has, which is probably one of the hyped linux distributions. I have nothing against debian or red hat, actually, I just lied, I don't like red hat but it is personal and not technical, but we need to make sure things run on the most popular distros. And don't let me get started on the mess of desktop environments and their themes and the hell hole that is Linux shared libraries and their locations. Each day I find some linux parts more like windows... On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Larry is correct. Ubuntu is Debian Beta. Fedora is Red Hat Beta. Nothing wrong with betas. They are not reference systems. People who want to use Ubuntu as a reference system, or Fedora for that matter, need to get specific. I suggested, and Larry seems to be suggesting, Debian Stable. You want to use Ubuntu as a reference distro, which release? How often are you going to change it? Every six months, when the new version comes out? You want to use Fedora, which release? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Debian-Sidux-Ubuntu-reference-distributions-for-Rev-tp1838336p1864202.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] iPads delayed internationally
On 15/04/2010 17:37, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 10:35:32 PM, you wrote: You haven't yet? Last I asked, which was quite a while ago, RR said they'd all been sent, all the orders were completed. Better check with support, I guess. You should have received them a long time ago. I received a message from RunRev support today that my DVDs had been despatched about a month ago. I am waiting for my local post-lady to give me a slip of paper so that I can pop along to the customs office to sign lots of silly papers, jump through hoops (well, metaphorically at least) and pay a customs clearance fee for them. If the merry Bulgarian postal service have managed to bust any I will force the customs officers to eat the DVDs - expect a Quicktime Movie to be uploaded anytime soon . . . :) I don't know about a long time ago... mine finally arrived last week. Overly packaged and with a broken plastic case, the the dvds seem all playable, so I'm happy. 'Overly' is probably the problematic word. I would recommend the folk at RunRev to down-play the conference DVDs in future, as, had they not been OVERLY hyped nobody would have got all tetchy about what happened . . . :) I cannot help wondering if RunRev would not have been better to set up a passworded FTP site and let us download DVD images and burn them ourselves - certainly would have minimised both the delay and the aggro. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
MySQL has gone away (again)
Hi List, I still figthing with this problem but I can't found one solution. If the application loses internet connectivity, due by that MySQL disconnects connects clients after a period of inactivity or you hibernate the computer, the connection is lost, but, revOpenDatabases() still returns a value. But there is no connection, so running a query or any DB command hangs the software forcing sometimes a force quit or wait until 10 minutes to get the error. As I read in the forum one solution is disconnect each time before to execute any query. Two questions: a) Anybody have found any solution for this, I tryed some things founded in the forum but doesn't work, so really the connection with mySQL is OK, the ports are accessible... Also I post a bug http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8723 b) Send in time some function can work but how control after hibernate the computer and the user perform some query? I don't know if I explain myself. The problem that I detect is after the user recover the computer after hibernate it. The application is loaded like other application, and perform some query. In this moment the computer have internet connection, and if I check for the mySQL ports or ping, the result is ok. So I think about some timer that fire one condition to disconnect before to perform the next query, after this first disconnect the next ones work fine. Any ideas? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/MySQL-has-gone-away-again-tp1898138p1898138.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: specialFolderPath
Kaus, Thanks! And congratulations on your new daughter! -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/specialFolderPath-tp1839006p1899213.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: specialFolderPath
Hi Charles, Kaus, Thanks! And congratulations on your new daughter! my name is Klaus and I am still not Malte :-D Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 79, Issue 28
John Vokey wrote: It drives me nuts that in the IDE associated file references, for example, are different from that in the standalone, depending on the OS. That one's not Rev, it's Apple: With OS X Apple has decided to lie to the user, in the sense that they use a folder (bundle) for what used to be a single executable file. Given the convenience of being able to store libraries and such in the bundle I don't mind, but it was a hassle until I started using this AppPath function: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/2002-September/002553.html With that function I can refer to files relative to the mainstack of my app regardless of whether it's a standalone or a stack file, or whether it's a standalone on Win, Linux, or OS X. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to make print card work in Linux: solved
Peter Alcibiades wrote: Instead what you do is start from whatever startup stack you are using to launch, or start up the compiled app. Then do the print. Make a note of the settings. Then close the stack, open it in the IDE, modify the settings, recompile if need be, close down Rev, start up from the startup stack or the compiled app, print again, make a note of the settings. Can't you just use Suspend development tools in the Development menu? That's supposed to do the same thing. It removes the IDE. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to make print card work in Linux: solved
On 15/04/2010 19:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: Instead what you do is start from whatever startup stack you are using to launch, or start up the compiled app. Then do the print. Make a note of the settings. Then close the stack, open it in the IDE, modify the settings, recompile if need be, close down Rev, start up from the startup stack or the compiled app, print again, make a note of the settings. Can't you just use Suspend development tools in the Development menu? That's supposed to do the same thing. It removes the IDE. I love Suspend development tools; without it I would have got exactly nowhere with my Devawriter - everytime I did a mouseOver on an image/button with a wonky script the whole stack would lock up; so, shut the thing down and then sort it out. Being a slow learner it took me 2 years to find that; never looked back since! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to make print card work in Linux: solved
J. Landman Gay wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: Instead what you do is start from whatever startup stack you are using to launch, or start up the compiled app. Then do the print. Make a note of the settings. Then close the stack, open it in the IDE, modify the settings, recompile if need be, close down Rev, start up from the startup stack or the compiled app, print again, make a note of the settings. Can't you just use Suspend development tools in the Development menu? That's supposed to do the same thing. It removes the IDE. Also, given that the dev and runtime engines use the same print routines, it would be helpful to know what differences were found between the two. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: specialFolderPath
Klaus, Oops, am sorry for the mistake! -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/specialFolderPath-tp1839006p1909382.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: specialFolderPath
Hi Charles, Klaus, Oops, am sorry for the mistake! Thou shalt be forgiven! Don't worry, this happens to me all the time ;-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: specialFolderPath
Klaus, Thanks! I have a question: How would I create a folder entitled MyFolder in the user's document folder using the following script?: sk file My file as: with specialFolderPath(docs) slash Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Klaus on-rev [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: Hi Charles, Klaus, Oops, am sorry for the mistake! Thou shalt be forgiven! Don't worry, this happens to me all the time ;-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de [hidden email] ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://n4.nabble.com/specialFolderPath-tp1839006p1910041.html To unsubscribe from Re: specialFolderPath, click here. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/specialFolderPath-tp1839006p1910302.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: specialFolderPath
Hi Charles, Klaus, Thanks! I have a question: How would I create a folder entitled MyFolder in the user's document folder using the following script?: ask file My file as: with specialFolderPath(docs) slash ... put specialfolderpath(docs) /MyFolder into tNewFolder if there is not a folder tNewFolder then create folder tNewFolder end if ask file My file as: with (tNewFolder /The_New_File.txt) ## Or whatever your filetype maybe ... Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Running multiple gif animation slow down Rev
Hi all, Could you verify on your configuration if running 64 gif animations on the same card slow down user interaction in Rev? To test this, import an animated gif and using the menu Replicate create 63 copies. I am building a game interface and one option for players is to choose animated gif for their 64 pieces. When i fill the board with 64 gif animations, Rev slows down too much and mouse interaction becomes difficult or impossible. Thanks in advance. Alejandro ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Clang: the thought behind Apple's insistence upon Xcode
Check this one out: http://www.brockerhoff.net/bb/viewtopic.php?p=2796#2796 I found this to be a nice meta view of Xcode future and why Apple is drawing the line now. Esoterica is in the post's links. I don't really think this is so much about clipping Adobe's wings, but that is certainly a side effect. Those prone to seeing disaster for revMobile should be of good cheer. There are a couple of foolproof ways to deliver rev coded iPhone and iPad apps that avoid that line that Apple is drawing. The webkit may be our savior. One company has already gotten the ok for apps that are made by serving up screens inside a Xcode built client app. The screens are created with JavaScript, HTML5 and CSS. They, of course use the iPhone OS APIs in all their glory. These are much more like app screens than web pages. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying
The subject of this thread - which was started by me - sounds somewhat harsh and unfair, but the ongoing story of annoying popups of phony messages transported by the Microsoft Internet Explorer - without having been launched by me in each case - reminds me of the fight between Microsoft and the EU - the European Union - about forcing Microsoft to deliver a Windows platform that is not necessarily tied to an embedded Internet Explorer. At the moment I am not fully clear about the outcome of the fight. I remember that Microsoft should pay an amount of several million dollars, but I do not know, whether they have paid this sum and at the same time have changed their strategy. At least, from my experience during the last days, they have not yet - despite all the ongoing automatic updates - implemented the possibility to disengage their Internet Explorer from WindowsXP. A virus scan found 3 viruses on my computer, interestingly two of them with names identical to such of Windows system files. Removing this trojans did not help. After a while the ads via the popping-up Internet Explorer continued. I then thought about deinstalling the Internet Explorer. Using the Windows-provided de-installer I was informed that about 150 listed programs were somehow tied to the Internet Explorer and that the removal of the IE could produce serious damage. Among the programs listed were such like TwistAWord (scripted in RevTalk), Aquasoft DIASHOW mobile, Route 66 Sync, Lua for Windows, Mozilla Firefox, Nokia Ovi System Utilities, but of course also quite a number of programs which might indeed been somehow connected to the IE. I therefore discontinued this approach to remove the IE. I then tried to move the whole IE folder into the trash can. This is however impossible! Next step: I renamed the IE folder. Likewise impossible. Then: I tried to rename the file iexplore.exe. This was possible, but after a few moments a new copy of the IE appeared in the folder ( this was independent of the fact, whether I was connected to the net or not) Last resort: I created a new folder (named Hide) and tried to move the whole IE folder into that new one. This succeeded to some extent: Most of the files of the IE folder were moved into the new one, only file iexplore.exe itself along with two other files and an extra subdirectory refused to be moved. At least I have now separated IE from a number of accompanying files, and since then - so far - no new information about having won a new Toyota SUV, an iPad, or a journey around the world have appeared via IE. I hope this state will now remain so, but I am not entirely sure. Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Clang: the thought behind Apple's insistence upon Xcode
Le 15 avr. 2010 à 21:49, Jerry Daniels a écrit : Check this one out: http://www.brockerhoff.net/bb/viewtopic.php?p=2796#2796 I found this to be a nice meta view of Xcode future and why Apple is drawing the line now. Esoterica is in the post's links. I don't really think this is so much about clipping Adobe's wings, but that is certainly a side effect. Those prone to seeing disaster for revMobile should be of good cheer. There are a couple of foolproof ways to deliver rev coded iPhone and iPad apps that avoid that line that Apple is drawing. The webkit may be our savior. One company has already gotten the ok for apps that are made by serving up screens inside a Xcode built client app. The screens are created with JavaScript, HTML5 and CSS. They, of course use the iPhone OS APIs in all their glory. These are much more like app screens than web pages. Best, Jerry Daniels I had noticed the LLVM-Clang thing some time ago. If I understand well, Clang compilers can compile code almost down to machine language-except that it just stops before that. The final step after that is managed elsewhere. The interesting thing thing is that Clang compilers are able to really fine tune your code even though you do not know the processor at this stage. This is a move by Apple towards independence from chip designers. For instance, I do not know how the G4 iPad chip was designed, but having an almost compiler that works independently of the chip must help Apple manage OS X on the iPhone, iPad and Mac. This may seem like kremlinology, but I think the transition by Apple from PowerPC to x86 was made easier by the fact that OpenStep was designed to be platform (whatever that means) independent. Clearly, SJ likes independence. Furthermore, it seems that this also related to programming on multicore chips. There are entries on Clang and LLVM in the english version of wikipedia. I first heard of this at the Ars Technica review of snow leopard: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars/9 and later pages Very nice review, IMHO. Grand Central Dispatch is also related to Clang and LLVM. http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/09/apple-opens-gcd-challenges-impede-adoption-on-linux.ars Cheers, François ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
speaking of gif animations
Somewhat off topic. At times I make my own gif animations (Fireworks), and when these are imported to a Rev stack, the gifs sometimes play well and sometimes not. To make the gif I use a lot of copying directly from one frame to the next. When gifs don't play well, it's the gif's transparency that goes screwy. Some frames get drawn ok (seems to be the original frames rather than the copied frames), but other frames seem to be half there with fuzzy edges. But If I run the same gif on a browser, no problems. By way of solution, during save-as I've tried alpha- and index-transparency (no idea what those mean), but that didn't work. Anyone more versed in animated gif design have any guesses as to what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it? Thank you. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: speaking of gif animations
Off topic: May I ask what tool(s) you use to create your animated gifs? I've been looking for something and don't really want to shell out for Phototshop or similar for this one purpose. Jeff M. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote: Somewhat off topic. At times I make my own gif animations (Fireworks), ... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Clang: the thought behind Apple's insistence upon Xcode
Merci, François! Quite an adventure in learning. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On Apr 15, 2010, at 4:14 PM, François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr wrote: Le 15 avr. 2010 à 21:49, Jerry Daniels a écrit : Check this one out: http://www.brockerhoff.net/bb/viewtopic.php?p=2796#2796 I found this to be a nice meta view of Xcode future and why Apple is drawing the line now. Esoterica is in the post's links. I don't really think this is so much about clipping Adobe's wings, but that is certainly a side effect. Those prone to seeing disaster for revMobile should be of good cheer. There are a couple of foolproof ways to deliver rev coded iPhone and iPad apps that avoid that line that Apple is drawing. The webkit may be our savior. One company has already gotten the ok for apps that are made by serving up screens inside a Xcode built client app. The screens are created with JavaScript, HTML5 and CSS. They, of course use the iPhone OS APIs in all their glory. These are much more like app screens than web pages. Best, Jerry Daniels I had noticed the LLVM-Clang thing some time ago. If I understand well, Clang compilers can compile code almost down to machine language-except that it just stops before that. The final step after that is managed elsewhere. The interesting thing thing is that Clang compilers are able to really fine tune your code even though you do not know the processor at this stage. This is a move by Apple towards independence from chip designers. For instance, I do not know how the G4 iPad chip was designed, but having an almost compiler that works independently of the chip must help Apple manage OS X on the iPhone, iPad and Mac. This may seem like kremlinology, but I think the transition by Apple from PowerPC to x86 was made easier by the fact that OpenStep was designed to be platform (whatever that means) independent. Clearly, SJ likes independence. Furthermore, it seems that this also related to programming on multicore chips. There are entries on Clang and LLVM in the english version of wikipedia. I first heard of this at the Ars Technica review of snow leopard: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars/9 and later pages Very nice review, IMHO. Grand Central Dispatch is also related to Clang and LLVM. http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/09/apple-opens-gcd-challenges-impede-adoption-on-linux.ars Cheers, François ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Clang: the thought behind Apple's insistence upon Xcode
Hello François, The iPad uses an ARM processor, not a G4. The ARM chips were first utilised in the Acorn Archimedes computer range. They were designed by a partnership of Acorn Risc Machines (ARM), Motorola and IBM. The instruction set is very compact, therefore easy to learn. Most coders built up libraries of standard routines quickly and easily. I assume that they have not really seen any need for any massive increase in the instruction set, but I haven't seen anything about them for quite some number of years, so I really don't know. Multi-core ARM's now, that would be something else - I predict that may be in Apple's future. Douglas On 15/04/2010 22:14, François Chaplais wrote: clipped This is a move by Apple towards independence from chip designers. For instance, I do not know how the G4 iPad chip was designed, but having an almost compiler that works independently of the chip must help Apple manage OS X on the iPhone, iPad and Mac. clipped Cheers, François ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: speaking of gif animations
RunRev does not handle optimized GIFs very well (From PS or FW). I had to search for software that would de- un- optimize them. Once I did that they worked fine in RunRev. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On Apr 15, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: Somewhat off topic. At times I make my own gif animations (Fireworks), and when these are imported to a Rev stack, the gifs sometimes play well and sometimes not. To make the gif I use a lot of copying directly from one frame to the next. When gifs don't play well, it's the gif's transparency that goes screwy. Some frames get drawn ok (seems to be the original frames rather than the copied frames), but other frames seem to be half there with fuzzy edges. But If I run the same gif on a browser, no problems. By way of solution, during save-as I've tried alpha- and index-transparency (no idea what those mean), but that didn't work. Anyone more versed in animated gif design have any guesses as to what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it? Thank you. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying!
Sounds like you got ahold of one of the rare but not unheard of bugs that actually infect your boot sector. Sometimes you can mount a drive like that in an enclosure and connect it to a protected Windows computer and scan it. Typically if you are going to do a wipe and re-install, you should delete and recreate the partition, which the factory restore disk probably does not do. As an aside, I have for years wondered if it wasn't the anti-virus vendors themselves who pay certain shady characters to come up with these viruses. Food for thought. Bob On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:09 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: I just consigned windows to a read-only VM for ever. If it wasn't for Rev and it's failings on Linux, I wouldn't be running Windows at all. After getting a malware infection that disabled my AV and Windows Defender, and wouldn't let me reinstall AV (not even from safe mode), I restored the laptop from the official restore disks. That restore failed. Then I tried to install vanilla Vista. That failed (wouldn't accept the license number that came with the DVD, a DVD that came directly from Microsoft themselves). So I went back to use XP -- multiple BSODs, during the install. I considered getting Windows 7, but after reading the reviews over on Amazon, I decided I wasn't throwing more money at MS. I tried ubuntu 9.10. It asked a few questions, then installed in about 20 mins, everything working. Ten years ago it was so hard to get Linux up and running compared to Windows. Now the tables have turned. If it wasn't for their abusive monopoly position, there is no way MS would be able to get away with such rubbish. Bernard On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: Sounds like you got some hijacks or some other kind of malware. Look it over with Malware Bytes Anti-Malware. I haven't used Adaware in quite a few years, but it might give you some solutions as well. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/OT-Microsoft-is-really-annoying-tp1839949p1840457.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debian, Sidux, Ubuntu, reference distributions for Rev
I have to weigh in here. We have a turnkey system for our locks and keys at our facility, called CyberAuditWeb which runs on a CentOS system. Recently the database went caddywonkers on us, and subsequent days later with tech support had us reinstalling the entire OS again, and the lock and key software on top of that. My point is that the tech guy told us we should NOT upgrade the OS because the lock and key software was written for a certain build of a certain Linux distro. Really? Really. That is all I need to know, to know I will never intentionally use Linux for anything serious. Flame on if you will, but if upgrading an OS can whack a database so bad I have to wipe and reinstall, then all bets are off. Bob On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Larry is correct. Ubuntu is Debian Beta. Fedora is Red Hat Beta. Nothing wrong with betas. They are not reference systems. People who want to use Ubuntu as a reference system, or Fedora for that matter, need to get specific. I suggested, and Larry seems to be suggesting, Debian Stable. You want to use Ubuntu as a reference distro, which release? How often are you going to change it? Every six months, when the new version comes out? You want to use Fedora, which release? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Debian-Sidux-Ubuntu-reference-distributions-for-Rev-tp1838336p1864202.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] iPads delayed internationally
How do you like us Americans now world? ;-) LOL! I can just hear some of the conversations over in France about our patented arrogance! Well, see we WERE going to sell iPads to you, but there aren't enough for us, so we are gonna sell em all here instead. Ok? But look at the bright side: We get to be happy! I'm cracking up right now. :-) Bob On Apr 14, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/04/14advisory_ipad.html If all you Americans who bought iPads could please return them ASAP, then maybe Steve would change his mind and I could get mine sooner. Thanks, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: speaking of gif animations
Hi Nicolas, Looking in the archives, i found a similar topic: http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg130518.html To solve this problem, i have used GIMP to convert gif animations: Open your animation in Gimp and click on menu Filters Animation Unoptimize Save the animation with a new name. UnOptimize removes some of the optimizations that compression and encoding add to gif files. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/speaking-of-gif-animations-tp1934358p1934433.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revMail in Windows
Sarah Reichelt wrote: I can't get all the data I need in my bug report down to 1000 characters, so does anyone know of an alternative way to send emails on Windows? I want it to go through the user's mail client as I ask them to supply additional information and attach screen shots. Otherwise I could use an irev script on my web site. It's kind of lame, but copy the data you want to send to the clipboard, use revmail with a very short message (something like now please Paste in the data from the clipboard) -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Microsoft is really annoying
Hi Wilhelm. I know pretty much why all of these things you mentioned work the way they do but I will not go into that here. What you have is a particularly nasty flavor of spyware, that has several processes that checks up on the other bits of itself to make sure you don't do exactly what you are doing. When they detect that you are attempting to remove the other pieces they simply restore them. There are a couple of approaches I could recommend, but none of them are guaranteed to succeed, at least not completely. Once you get a bug like this, only a wipe (including deleting the partition and creating a new one) and reinstall of the OS is going to guarantee success. If you take that approach, let me make a few suggestions: 1. Buy and have ready a good Antivirus/antispyware package to install IMMEDIATELY as soon as your new OS boots 2. Install XP sp2 or higher (avoid Vista just because it sucks, Win 7 is great) to make sure the Windows Firewall is on by default. If you do not have these, as many old restore disks will not, then do not connect to ANY internet connection until you have enabled the Windows firewall and installed the AV package as described above. 3. At this point you *should* be safe enough to connect to the internet and download and install ALL the Windows Updates you find. This process can take 3 to 5 passes. Be patient. Do not give up. Your computer needs to be fully patched before you do anything else. 4. Several things to keep in mind after you are up and running: a. Stay away from questionable sites. I don't need to elaborate. Organized Crime pays good programmers to develop undetectable bugs. b. Never EVER click a link in an Email, no matter WHO sends you the email. Spam software can make an email look like it came from anyone. c. NEVER install software that you haven't paid money for. Nothing is free. NOTHING. d. Turn off the preview pane in your email, at least until you have trained your spam blocker about what is crap and what is not. e. Use a non-administrator account as much as possible. Yes it's a pain, but you've done half the hackers work for them by using an admin account. f. NEVER let anyone you do not trust implicitly, use (and especially fix) your computer with the admin account. This includes your wife, kids and family pet. Especially not the kids. More compromises happen because an unwitting friend installs bad software to fix an ailing computer, than I can tell you about. That about sums it up. If all that seems unreasonable, I would suggest looking into the Apple OS X. Nothing is perfect, but real exploits for this OS are very rare, and there are none I know about presently that a fully patched OS can be compromised by. I am an IT pro and I have to live and work in both worlds. Most of my time is spent fixing and protecting the Windows side of things. Bob On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: The subject of this thread - which was started by me - sounds somewhat harsh and unfair, but the ongoing story of annoying popups of phony messages transported by the Microsoft Internet Explorer - without having been launched by me in each case - reminds me of the fight between Microsoft and the EU - the European Union - about forcing Microsoft to deliver a Windows platform that is not necessarily tied to an embedded Internet Explorer. At the moment I am not fully clear about the outcome of the fight. I remember that Microsoft should pay an amount of several million dollars, but I do not know, whether they have paid this sum and at the same time have changed their strategy. snip ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: specialFolderPath
Klaus, Your script worked great! Thanks so much! -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/specialFolderPath-tp1839006p1934458.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Clang: the thought behind Apple's insistence upon Xcode
From: Douglas The iPad uses an ARM processor, not a G4. The ARM chips were first utilised in the Acorn Archimedes computer range. They were designed by a partnership of Acorn Risc Machines (ARM), Motorola and IBM. The instruction set is very compact, therefore easy to learn. Most coders built up libraries of standard routines quickly and easily. I assume that they have not really seen any need for any massive increase in the instruction set, but I haven't seen anything about them for quite some number of years, so I really don't know. Multi-core ARM's now, that would be something else - I predict that may be in Apple's future. I wouldn't call the ARM's native instruction set compact. It's actually fairly space-inefficient, which is why they later invented the Thumb instruction set for the ARM7 processor. It gives up some of the complete orthogonality of the ARM instructions for better code density. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Zip Behavior on Windows
I regularly ship apps to some users by simply packaging it as a zip file. Mainstack, engine components all in a folder, right click, compress ship... On the Mac the user double clicks and a folder pops up, neatly extracted, all components inside next to the main stack and engine. Now something has changed on windows. if the user double clicks on the zip file WinZip is exposing the contents of the package in still compressed form. Naive users are baffled. If they unzip the .exe file they see in there, it still doesn' work. I left a query at the winzip site and got a nice prompt response saying It has always been like this (why are we only now getting problem reports then?) that was 2 pages long! Ouch. I could ferret out that we now should be making a self-extracting archive. I don't know if that is still a zip file or not. Of course some will say your really should be using a windows installer... but, does it need to be that complicated? Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Zip Behavior on Windows
From: Sivakatirswami I regularly ship apps to some users by simply packaging it as a zip file. Mainstack, engine components all in a folder, right click, compress ship... On the Mac the user double clicks and a folder pops up, neatly extracted, all components inside next to the main stack and engine. Now something has changed on windows. if the user double clicks on the zip file WinZip is exposing the contents of the package in still compressed form. Naive users are baffled. If they unzip the .exe file they see in there, it still doesn' work. I left a query at the winzip site and got a nice prompt response saying It has always been like this (why are we only now getting problem reports then?) that was 2 pages long! Ouch. I could ferret out that we now should be making a self-extracting archive. I don't know if that is still a zip file or not. Of course some will say your really should be using a windows installer... but, does it need to be that complicated? A self-extracting archive is a small executable with a ZIP appended to it so that when run, it extracts itself. This technique has been around pretty much since the dawn of PKZIP for MS-DOS. Also, WinZIP is a third-party app. Modern versions of Windows have ZIP support built-in, but it has the same limitation in that you have to do more than just double-click it to extract it. However, you can right-click it and select Extract All, which isn't too much harder. I don't know if WinZIP includes the ability to create self-extracting archives, but I expect there are some freeware programs that do that. Installers are nice because they do other things. On Windows, they may create desktop icons, Start Menu items, Quick Launch icons, file type associations, and other registry entries, not to mention cleaning up any previous versions. If you don't need any of that, a self-extracting archive will be sufficient. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
