Re: Mac Scrolling

[Kay C Lan]

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:52 AM, J. Landman Gay
wrote:

> Am I really conversing with a slug? ("Slime sliiime sliimmme Zryip!")
>
> As far as we know, yes. At least, he's never told us any different. He's a
> very friendly slug in any case, I'd definitely trust him in my strawberry
> patch.
>
> Interesting, I've always thought of him as an imperial unit of mass, but
hey, I figured anyone who uses sliie must be a Heather not a Graham ;-)

But, back to topic. Have you tried downloading a Rev built app and running
that. Thereby eliminating your installation of Rev as the culprit.

Try a demo download of InfoWallet:

http://www.infowallet.com/

(picked only because the screen shots indicate there are scroll bars)

With nothing else running on your system, if these scroll bars work
correctly then it would tend to indicate that a clean Rev Engine behaves
properly and something in your installation of Rev is wrong. If it doesn't
work, then something installed on your Mac, probably Rev related, must be
incompatible. I say that because if it weren't the case Bill Vlahos would
have had thousands of complaints that his program has a non-standard GUI.

HTH
PS Sorry Bill if I underestimated the number of Mac users ;-)
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Icon poor in Windows Vista

[David Glasgow]

I have followed the various advice on the list, including using Icofx. 

My icon looks good on Mac, good on XP but oddly small and pixelated on Vista.  
It doesn't actuially look like any of the versions built into the icon..

Any ideas?

David Glasgow

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Re: Why do human have appendices?

[Richmond Mathewson]

 On 22/04/2010 09:30, Kay C Lan wrote:

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Richmond Mathewson<
richmondmathew...@gmail.com>  wrote:


However, RunRev seems not to have an appendix to repopulate what has been
removed.

An approach that has never seemed to hurt Apple, though many predictions to

the contrary. Whilst many would suggest that one of MicroSoft's  errors with
Vista's was to doggedly attempt that very feat.


I wonder how long until Steve Jobs agrees to the iPad having a reverse 
appendectomy?

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Re: Mac Scrolling

[Graham & Heather Harrison]

On 22/04/2010, at 5:01 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:

>>  but hey, I figured anyone who uses sliie must be a Heather not a Graham 
>> ;-)

Out by one "m" and 180º.

> Try a demo download of InfoWallet:
> http://www.infowallet.com/
> If it doesn't work, then something installed on your Mac, probably Rev 
> related, must be
> incompatible.

Thanks. That has defined the area of the problem; looking for a black rock in a 
coal cellar without a light - but at least I know I'm in the right 
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Re: Datagrid sorting

[Marcello Bertoli]

Hi Andre,

thank you very much for your answer. I tried your code but it doesn't do the 
job. It is like pushing the column header of the datagrid two times (first the 
number one and the the date one).

My data come from a sql base so I can (as Steven said) make the query do the 
work of the multiple sorting before loading into the datagrid but I'm scared 
about performances when it comes to manage hundreds of thousands of data. In 
this scenario I need to retrieve data from the sql base and then populate the 
datagrid every time I need to sort the rows without the data I already have in 
the datagrid. This means more traffic over the network and multiple populations 
of the datagrid...

Best regards
Marcello



On 21/apr/2010, at 19.33, Andre.Bisseret wrote:

> I think yes! Assuming for instance you want the dates sorted from the oldest 
> down to the more recent
> and then, for each date, the numbers should be sorted from the smaller down 
> to the greater
> you should sort the numbers column first then the dates' column.
> Something like that:
> 
> on mouseUp
> ##setting the sort type value for each column
>   set the dgColumnSortType["date"] of grp "datagrid 1" to "system dateTime"
>   set the dgColumnSortType["number"] of grp "datagrid 1" to "numeric"
>   set the dgColumnSortType["title"] of grp "datagrid 1" to text
> ## making sure the two columns will have the same sortDirection if necessary
>   set the dgColumnSortDirection["date"] of grp "datagrid 1" to "ascending"
>   set the dgColumnSortDirection["number"] of grp "datagrid 1" to "ascending"
> ## sort "number" first then "date"
>   dispatch "sortByColumn" to grp "datagrid 1" with "number"
>   dispatch "sortByColumn" to grp "datagrid 1" with "date"
> end mouseUp
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Re: Mac Scrolling

[zryip theSlug]

2010/4/22 J. Landman Gay :
> The best way to check pending messages is in the message box (I think that's
> probably what our slug meant.) The fifth icon from the left is the pending
> message queue. Normally you won't see anything there unless you're viewing
> the UI messages. It's normal to see those. If you do see any pending
> messages that are not in the UI, see if you can copy and paste them here.

Yes I thought to the message box when I wrote my few lines, thanks to
have corrected me ;)
Message box and message watcher give good clues how events are trapped
and performs in Runrev.

2010/4/22 Graham & Heather Harrison :
> Am I really conversing with a slug? ("Slime sliiime sliimmme Zryip!")

Yes, yes ;) What a privilege no? I'm a kind of ambassador, hahaha 8-)

2010/4/22 J. Landman Gay :
> As far as we know, yes. At least, he's never told us any different. He's a
> very friendly slug in any case, I'd definitely trust him in my strawberry
> patch.

Thanks Jacque to welcome me in your  garden ;)
Of course I'm a friendly slug but take some precaution like :
- don't give me salad after midnight
- don't throw me water
- and don't approach me with a shovel

8-)

-- 
-Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8)
http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc
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Re: [OT] Flash - Open Source

[Richmond Mathewson]

 On 21/04/2010 10:45, David Bovill wrote:

This is an example of one of the open source projects that sprung up
after Adobe launched it's open source strategy, there are other great
ones like Flixl. It's an example of the sort of benefits we'd get if
RunRev adopted a proactive open source marketing strategy of this
sort. Note the license attached to the code is GPL.



Methinks nobody is listening . . .  :(


On 20 Apr 2010, at 21:26, Richmond Mathewson  wrote:


Well worth a look:

http://flowplayer.org/index.html


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Re: Why do human have appendices?

[Richard Gaskin]

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> I wonder how long until Steve Jobs agrees to the iPad having
> a reverse appendectomy?

In some ways it already has:


:)

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Re: Why do human have appendices?

[René Micout]

YES Richard ! It is the "same" thing !
René

Le 22 avr. 2010 à 15:16, Richard Gaskin a écrit :
> 
> In some ways it already has:
> 

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Disabling a Save menu item

[charles61]

I have trying to devise a script to disable a Save menu item when the user is
on a certain card. My project has two sections: Student and adult. I want to
disable the Save Menu for Adult when the user is on a student card. I tried
the following and variants of it but I get an error message when I try to
compile the code:

button "File": compilation error at line 108 (Expression: double binary
operator) near "is", char 13

Here is my code in the menu bar:

 case "Save File for Student"
 if card is "adult"
 then 
disable menuItem 2 of button File of group "menubar 1"
 end if

I have checked the RevList archives but found nothing that would help me
with this problem! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Disabling a Save menu item

[Mark Schonewille]

"File" (with quotes)

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Op 22 apr 2010, om 15:59 heeft charles61 het volgende geschreven:



I have trying to devise a script to disable a Save menu item when  
the user is
on a certain card. My project has two sections: Student and adult. I  
want to
disable the Save Menu for Adult when the user is on a student card.  
I tried
the following and variants of it but I get an error message when I  
try to

compile the code:

button "File": compilation error at line 108 (Expression: double  
binary

operator) near "is", char 13

Here is my code in the menu bar:

case "Save File for Student"
if card is "adult"
then
   disable menuItem 2 of button File of group "menubar 1"
end if


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Re: Disabling a Save menu item

[charles61]

Mark,

Thanks for your suggestion! I tried "File" before and I got the same error 
message. Nevertheless, I tried it again, and got the same error message.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




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> "File" (with quotes) 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Mark Schonewille 
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> Op 22 apr 2010, om 15:59 heeft charles61 het volgende geschreven: 
> 
> > 
> > I have trying to devise a script to disable a Save menu item when   
> > the user is 
> > on a certain card. My project has two sections: Student and adult. I   
> > want to 
> > disable the Save Menu for Adult when the user is on a student card.   
> > I tried 
> > the following and variants of it but I get an error message when I   
> > try to 
> > compile the code: 
> > 
> > button "File": compilation error at line 108 (Expression: double   
> > binary 
> > operator) near "is", char 13 
> > 
> > Here is my code in the menu bar: 
> > 
> > case "Save File for Student" 
> > if card is "adult" 
> > then 
> >disable menuItem 2 of button File of group "menubar 1" 
> > end if
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Re: Disabling a Save menu item

[Mark Schonewille]

Charles,

"Card" is just card. You need to tell Rev whether you want to compare  
the short name of the long id etc. In this case, you want the short  
name of the (current?) card.


I would strongly recommend not to use reserved words as variable names.

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Op 22 apr 2010, om 16:06 heeft charles61 het volgende geschreven:



Mark,

Thanks for your suggestion! I tried "File" before and I got the same  
error message. Nevertheless, I tried it again, and got the same  
error message.


Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




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Re: Disabling a Save menu item

[charles61]

Mark,

I worked out my problem. I put my code in the openCard handler for each section 
with changes for the student and adult sections.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Apr 22, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Mark Schonewille-3 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

> "File" (with quotes) 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Mark Schonewille 
> 
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> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
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> 
> We have updated TwistAWord. Download TwistAWord 1.1 at 
> http://www.twistaword.net
> 
> Op 22 apr 2010, om 15:59 heeft charles61 het volgende geschreven: 
> 
> > 
> > I have trying to devise a script to disable a Save menu item when   
> > the user is 
> > on a certain card. My project has two sections: Student and adult. I   
> > want to 
> > disable the Save Menu for Adult when the user is on a student card.   
> > I tried 
> > the following and variants of it but I get an error message when I   
> > try to 
> > compile the code: 
> > 
> > button "File": compilation error at line 108 (Expression: double   
> > binary 
> > operator) near "is", char 13 
> > 
> > Here is my code in the menu bar: 
> > 
> > case "Save File for Student" 
> > if card is "adult" 
> > then 
> >disable menuItem 2 of button File of group "menubar 1" 
> > end if
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Re: Disabling a Save menu item

[DunbarX]

Charles.

I think what Mark is trying to say to you is that your line has to read:

   if the name of this card is "adult" 

Craig Newman
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Re: Disabling a Save menu item

[charles61]

Thanks Craig and Mark!

I worked out my problem. I had the handler in the wrong place. After I moved
to an openCard handler for both sections and made the appropriate changes,
everything works fine! 
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Re: Is there a maximum data size for groups?

[Jonathan Lynch]

I got it working without eating all my RAM. This is for a faerie tale
editing program. Each story is contained in a group, and each page is a
subgroup of the main group.

To save a story, I have it copy each page/subgroup to the saving stack, but
then delete that page from the editing application right after it does that.
This way, it does not have to hold two copies of all 400 MB worth of data.

I also had to make sure it turns images that are not currently being viewed
invisible. That keeps the RAM usage down by a good bit.

It prolly woulda been simpler to just buy more RAM.

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Phil Davis  wrote:

> This list is never dull!
> Phil Davis
>
>
>
> On 4/17/10 9:37 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>
>>  On 17/04/2010 19:17, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>>
>>> Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>>>
  On 17/04/2010 18:47, Jonathan Lynch wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I think you must be right that I am using up my RAM.
>
> Drat, this is gonna be a pain in the bahonkus.
>
 One pain in the bahonkus now is probably
 better than a whole slew of pains in the
 bahonkus later on . . .  :)

>>>
>>> Oh so true. In one project right now, due to a lack of foresight, I can
>>> hardly sit down.
>>>
>>>
>> Hmm; that's interesting - I was wondering exactly where the bahonkus was:
>> not being a
>> North American - we Europeans have different anatomy . . .   :)
>>
>> All right; we use different euphemistic terms for the same bits of anatomy
>> . . .
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> While I'm "here"; I suffer from a lack of foresight too, having had it
>> circumscribed at an early age . . . the old jokes are always the best!
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Problem in Multi line string (via Socket)

[Shani]

HI, when I use multi line string to (connect java through Socket), it write
first line to java but not write second and other lines.

When I comment first line then java read second line and display the result
against that one.

 

How can I use multi line string (via socket )

 

write "1 line read"  & return to socket tSocket

write "2 line read"  & return to socket tSocket

.

.

.

 

 

Regards,

shani

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If else statment is not working

[Shani]

If then else statement is not working.

 

 

 

write "XYZ"  & return to socket tSocket 

 


if "XYZ"  then 

 


click at the loc of btn "StartXYZ"

 


else "ABC"  then 

 


 click at the loc of btn "StartShani"

 


  end if

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Re: If else statment is not working

[Mark Schonewille]

Shani,

else "ABC"  then

should be

else if "ABC" then

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Op 22 apr 2010, om 18:04 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven:


If then else statement is not working.







write "XYZ"  & return to socket tSocket




if "XYZ"  then




click at the loc of btn "StartXYZ"




else "ABC"  then




click at the loc of btn "StartShani"




 end if


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Re: Problem in Multi line string (via Socket)

[Mark Schonewille]

Shani,

write "1 line read" & cr & "2 line read" & cr to socket tSocket

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Op 22 apr 2010, om 18:02 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven:

HI, when I use multi line string to (connect java through Socket),  
it write

first line to java but not write second and other lines.

When I comment first line then java read second line and display the  
result

against that one.



How can I use multi line string (via socket )



write "1 line read"  & return to socket tSocket

write "2 line read"  & return to socket tSocket

.

.

.





Regards,

shani



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Re: Record Audio in Rev on Linux OS?

[John Patten]

Thanks for the suggestion Peter!

As for how to go about doing what you described in Linux, I'm at a loss.

I have no experience using Rev and Shell scripts in Linux. The reason  
why I am interested is that I working on a little utility that allows  
students to record an audio response and then ftp the resulting audio  
file to a server. This works fine on my Mac, and I presume it will on  
Windows too (though have not tested extensively yet).


We have recently begun using Netbooks running Ubuntu Remix with our  
students (about 600 of them currently). We do have Audacity on them  
for recording audio, among a whole collection of other great software  
tools.


I would like to be able to get my little utility to work on the  
Netbooks too. I have looked up krecord and hunted some discussion  
lists related to command line commands for this tool.


I don't see too much in the area of command line language for  
Audacity, so I'm guessing we will have to use krecord or ALSA. These  
laptops do have ALSA arecord and aplay and I do see an example in man  
for "arecord:"


arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D copy foobar.wav

(I'm guessing in the example above, I would need to give the complete  
path when saving the foobar.wav file. Something like ~/home/student/ 
foobar.wav )


I have never done anything like this with Rev before and need some  
direction. I'm guessing that I'm going to need to create a function  
that will contain the shell script and then call it from a button when  
I want to record...? But I don't have a clue what it would look like???


Does someone have a simple example stack I can pick apart?

Thank you!

John Patten






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Dunno about Rev directly, but you can go out to shell, and then use  
the Linux
command line tools.  The easiest gui recording tool is krecord, but  
there

are lots of non-gui ones.  Use zenity to get a gui for them.  Then when
you've captured the file, go out to the shell again to play it.  Or  
maybe
this is what you were trying to avoid?  Most things that Rev cannot do  
can

be done in the shell.
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Re: Datagrid sorting

[Andre . Bisseret]

Le 22 avr. 10 à 11:38, Marcello Bertoli a écrit :


Hi Andre,

thank you very much for your answer. I tried your code but it  
doesn't do the job. It is like pushing the column header of the  
datagrid two times (first the number one and the the date one).


Bonjour Marcello,

Sorry, I had read your question too quickly. Did not noticed you would  
like to start from a click on the header (so went as if it would be  
from a button)
I am quite sure what you want is possible; (sure also that Trevor will  
help on that ;-))


Excited by the problem, I am trying to find a solution but up to now  
without any success. I don't find out how to get the name of the  
clicked column' header (except in the sort command itself)
the dgColumn of the target returns the name but not when clicking on  
the header (only when clicking on a a row in a column.


Looking forward getting a solution

Best regards from Grenoble

André


My data come from a sql base so I can (as Steven said) make the  
query do the work of the multiple sorting before loading into the  
datagrid but I'm scared about performances when it comes to manage  
hundreds of thousands of data. In this scenario I need to retrieve  
data from the sql base and then populate the datagrid every time I  
need to sort the rows without the data I already have in the  
datagrid. This means more traffic over the network and multiple  
populations of the datagrid...


Best regards
Marcello



On 21/apr/2010, at 19.33, Andre.Bisseret wrote:

I think yes! Assuming for instance you want the dates sorted from  
the oldest down to the more recent
and then, for each date, the numbers should be sorted from the  
smaller down to the greater

you should sort the numbers column first then the dates' column.
Something like that:

on mouseUp
##setting the sort type value for each column
 set the dgColumnSortType["date"] of grp "datagrid 1" to "system  
dateTime"

 set the dgColumnSortType["number"] of grp "datagrid 1" to "numeric"
 set the dgColumnSortType["title"] of grp "datagrid 1" to text
## making sure the two columns will have the same sortDirection if  
necessary
 set the dgColumnSortDirection["date"] of grp "datagrid 1" to  
"ascending"
 set the dgColumnSortDirection["number"] of grp "datagrid 1" to  
"ascending"

## sort "number" first then "date"
 dispatch "sortByColumn" to grp "datagrid 1" with "number"
 dispatch "sortByColumn" to grp "datagrid 1" with "date"
end mouseUp

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position of an object (from Script)

[Shani]

How can i set the position of an object through script.

 

Like in object property profile. We set size and position (location).

 

How can I set the value like 

 

Position of ball x"243" and y= 22

 

Object start from that position

 

Regards,

SHANI

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Send positions through Socket

[Shani]

HI, 

 

Can i send the position of an object 

X axis and y axis through Socket to other Program.

Like we send a string in this way 

 

write field "Outputs" to socket "127.0.0.0:21"

 

 

Regards,

SHANI

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Re: position of an object (from Script)

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Shani,

You might want to search the dictionary for "location". You also might  
want to search for "width" and "height".


You also will want to know that you can change almost all properties  
of objects with the "set" command.


Spending an evening with the documentation will definitely be very  
useful. Reading the messages on this list would help you too.


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Op 22 apr 2010, om 19:04 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven:


How can i set the position of an object through script.



Like in object property profile. We set size and position (location).



How can I set the value like



Position of ball x"243" and y= 22



Object start from that position



Regards,

SHANI



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Re: Sending a message to multiple objects

[Peter Haworth]

Thanks Mark and Sarah, Sounds like just what I need.  How do I find  
this on RevOnline?  I searched for MVC but nothing came up.


Pete Haworth

On Apr 22, 2010, at 1:01 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com  
wrote:


Message: 19
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:08:43 -0700
From: Mark Wieder 
Subject: Re: Sending a message to multiple objects
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <88665347421.20100421200...@ahsoftware.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Sarah-

Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 4:18:27 PM, you wrote:


There was an MVC demo stack doing the rounds a couple of years ago. I
think it used something similar to this where controls registered
their interest and then all registered controls got the specified
messages. I forget who wrote the stack, but a search for "MVC.rev"
might turn up something. Or maybe the original author could step in
here before my vague memories cause too much confusion :-)


Um... yeah... that would be me. I believe the library and demo stack
might be on revOnline (can't check at the moment), but I'll repost it
if it's not. I originally thought that what I was presenting was an
MVC construct, but David Bovill convinced me otherwise. It *does*
implement the publish-and-subscribe pattern whereby you can register
controls' interest in receiving messages from any or from specific
other controls.

--
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Re: If else statment is not working

[Peter Brigham MD]

You wrote:


write "XYZ"  & return to socket tSocket
if "XYZ"  then
   click at the loc of btn "StartXYZ"
else "ABC"  then
   click at the loc of btn "StartShani"
end if


If-then statements will evaluate the condition tokens as true or false  
and proceed accordingly. So in evaluating your line:


if "XYZ" then...

the engine will look at "XYZ", which is a literal string, and find  
that this string does not evaluate to "true" and then go to:


else if "ABC" then
(inserting the extra if, as Mark suggests)

and find that "ABC" does not evaluate to "true", and thus nothing will  
happen. What you need is something like:


if myVariable = "XYZ"  then
   click at the loc of btn "StartXYZ"
else if myVariable = "ABC" then
   click at the loc of btn "StartShani"
end if

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
pmb...@gmail.com
http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig


On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


Shani,

else "ABC"  then

should be

else if "ABC" then

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Op 22 apr 2010, om 18:04 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven:


If then else statement is not working.







write "XYZ"  & return to socket tSocket




if "XYZ"  then




click at the loc of btn "StartXYZ"




else "ABC"  then




click at the loc of btn "StartShani"




end if


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RE: position of an object (from Script)

[Shani]

I use this 
set the location of "amir" to 350,200
but it give error
execution error at line n/a (Chunk: error in object expression) near
"aamir", char 1

-Original Message-
From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com
[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Schonewille
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:28 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: position of an object (from Script)

Hi Shani,

You might want to search the dictionary for "location". You also might  
want to search for "width" and "height".

You also will want to know that you can change almost all properties  
of objects with the "set" command.

Spending an evening with the documentation will definitely be very  
useful. Reading the messages on this list would help you too.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer

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Op 22 apr 2010, om 19:04 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven:

> How can i set the position of an object through script.
>
>
>
> Like in object property profile. We set size and position (location).
>
>
>
> How can I set the value like
>
>
>
> Position of ball x"243" and y= 22
>
>
>
> Object start from that position
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> SHANI


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Re: Datagrid sorting

[Andre.Bisseret]

Marcello,

Seems this one might be working as you expected (?)

-- in the script of the dataGrid: ---

local hcColumn,theColumn
---
on mouseDown
   put the dgHeaderControl of the mouseControl into hcColumn
   if hcColumn is not empty then
  put the dgColumn of the target into theColumn
  if theColumn is "date" then
 dispatch "sortByColumn" to the target with "date"
 wait 1 sec
 set the dgColumnSortDirection["number"] of the target to  
"ascending" -- may be not necessary

 dispatch "sortByColumn" to the target with "number"
  end if
   end if
end mouseDown
--

best
André




Le 22 avr. 10 à 11:38, Marcello Bertoli a écrit :


Hi Andre,

thank you very much for your answer. I tried your code but it  
doesn't do the job. It is like pushing the column header of the  
datagrid two times (first the number one and the the date one).


My data come from a sql base so I can (as Steven said) make the  
query do the work of the multiple sorting before loading into the  
datagrid but I'm scared about performances when it comes to manage  
hundreds of thousands of data. In this scenario I need to retrieve  
data from the sql base and then populate the datagrid every time I  
need to sort the rows without the data I already have in the  
datagrid. This means more traffic over the network and multiple  
populations of the datagrid...


Best regards
Marcello



On 21/apr/2010, at 19.33, Andre.Bisseret wrote:

I think yes! Assuming for instance you want the dates sorted from  
the oldest down to the more recent
and then, for each date, the numbers should be sorted from the  
smaller down to the greater

you should sort the numbers column first then the dates' column.
Something like that:

on mouseUp
##setting the sort type value for each column
 set the dgColumnSortType["date"] of grp "datagrid 1" to "system  
dateTime"

 set the dgColumnSortType["number"] of grp "datagrid 1" to "numeric"
 set the dgColumnSortType["title"] of grp "datagrid 1" to text
## making sure the two columns will have the same sortDirection if  
necessary
 set the dgColumnSortDirection["date"] of grp "datagrid 1" to  
"ascending"
 set the dgColumnSortDirection["number"] of grp "datagrid 1" to  
"ascending"

## sort "number" first then "date"
 dispatch "sortByColumn" to grp "datagrid 1" with "number"
 dispatch "sortByColumn" to grp "datagrid 1" with "date"
end mouseUp

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Re: position of an object (from Script)

[DunbarX]

When you set the loc of an object, you have to explicitly name the object. 
"Amir" could be anything. You have to say, for example :

set the loc of button "amir" to...
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Property Profiles and revSetStackFileProfile - Issue

[Fabrice Muller]

Hello All,

Has someone already tried to used Property Profiles for multi-language 
management and revSetStackFileProfile for changing the profile ?

Are this property and function working well in all case ?
I tried to used for multi language part of my application, but many times 
properties disappear or doesn't work.
The revSetStackFileProfile doesn't seem to work and change how application is 
working.

Thanks for your feedback, Fabrice

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Re: position of an object (from Script)

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Shani,

"Amir" is a string, not an object description. Object descriptions (or  
object references or object expressions) look like:


field x
field "Address"
the long id of fld "Address"
button 52 of card "Settings" of stack "Preferences"
stack "Special Dialog" of stack "Main Project"

et cetera.

--
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer

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Op 22 apr 2010, om 20:28 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven:


I use this
set the location of "amir" to 350,200
but it give error
execution error at line n/a (Chunk: error in object expression) near
"aamir", char 1

-Original Message-
From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com
[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Schonewille
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:28 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: position of an object (from Script)

Hi Shani,

You might want to search the dictionary for "location". You also might
want to search for "width" and "height".

You also will want to know that you can change almost all properties
of objects with the "set" command.

Spending an evening with the documentation will definitely be very
useful. Reading the messages on this list would help you too.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer

We have updated TwistAWord. Download TwistAWord 1.1 at
http://www.twistaword.net

Op 22 apr 2010, om 19:04 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven:


How can i set the position of an object through script.



Like in object property profile. We set size and position (location).



How can I set the value like



Position of ball x"243" and y= 22



Object start from that position



Regards,

SHANI


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Re: ANN: PopUp Menu with Key-Combination Shortcuts

[Roger Guay]

Thanks very much, I'll change it! Forgive me for asking, but should we refer to 
you as TheSlug?

Cheers,
Roger Guay

On Apr 22, 2010, at 1:01 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

> Hi Roger,
> 
> Interesting demo, thanks for sharing ;)
> 
> Instead of the repeat loop to look for the correct item:
> 
> on controlKeyDown theKey
>   set itemdelimiter to tab
> 
> repeat for the number of lines of btn "popupMenu" -- Menu items are
> the "lines" of the Popup btn
>   add 1 to theNum
>   if last char of line theNum of btn "popupMenu" = theKey then \
>   put item 1 of line theNum of btn "PopupMenu"  into fld "Rfld"
> end repeat
> 
>   pass controlKeyDown
> end controlKeyDown
> 
> 
> You may use the lineOffset function like this:
> 
> get lineOffset("ctrl+" & theKey,btn "popupMenu")
> if (it is 0) then
>  put "Nothing" into fld "Rfld"
> else
>  put item 1 of line it of btn "PopupMenu"  into fld "Rfld"
> end if
> 
> Just a suggestion to facilitate the work of Revolution ;)
> 
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8)
> http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc

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RE: position of an object (from Script)

[Shani]

Thanks Mark, 
According to your guide line this task done through this command

   set the location of graphic ID 1026 to 350,200

now how can I use this through Socket.

Like 
  write "XYZ"  & return to socket tSocket
--this write string to java through Socket

like these position to socket on JAVA.

Reagrads,
SHANI



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[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Schonewille
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:58 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: position of an object (from Script)

Hi Shani,

"Amir" is a string, not an object description. Object descriptions (or  
object references or object expressions) look like:

field x
field "Address"
the long id of fld "Address"
button 52 of card "Settings" of stack "Preferences"
stack "Special Dialog" of stack "Main Project"

et cetera.

--
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Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer

We have updated TwistAWord. Download TwistAWord 1.1 at
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Op 22 apr 2010, om 20:28 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven:

> I use this
> set the location of "amir" to 350,200
> but it give error
> execution error at line n/a (Chunk: error in object expression) near
> "aamir", char 1
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com
> [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark
> Schonewille
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:28 PM
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: position of an object (from Script)
>
> Hi Shani,
>
> You might want to search the dictionary for "location". You also might
> want to search for "width" and "height".
>
> You also will want to know that you can change almost all properties
> of objects with the "set" command.
>
> Spending an evening with the documentation will definitely be very
> useful. Reading the messages on this list would help you too.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>
> We have updated TwistAWord. Download TwistAWord 1.1 at
> http://www.twistaword.net
>
> Op 22 apr 2010, om 19:04 heeft Shani het volgende geschreven:
>
>> How can i set the position of an object through script.
>>
>>
>>
>> Like in object property profile. We set size and position (location).
>>
>>
>>
>> How can I set the value like
>>
>>
>>
>> Position of ball x"243" and y= 22
>>
>>
>>
>> Object start from that position
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> SHANI

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[OT] Bing; a Microsoft Ramp?

[Richmond Mathewson]

 Should I have been surprised?

Probably not.

I have just searched for some Linux software,

followed by a search for some Macintosh software,

and all the results consist of Windows software.

Of course 'Bing' (perhaps better to call it either 'Bling'
or 'Blag') is owned by Microsoft; so it really is not
entirely surprising, knowing their track record, to
find them using it to PUSH.
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Re: ANN: PopUp Menu with Key-Combination Shortcuts

[Andre Garzia]

Personally, inside my head, I refer to him as Zryip (pronounced Zeerip in
portuguese)...

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Roger Guay  wrote:

> Thanks very much, I'll change it! Forgive me for asking, but should we
> refer to you as TheSlug?
>
> Cheers,
> Roger Guay
>
> On Apr 22, 2010, at 1:01 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.comwrote:
>
> > Hi Roger,
> >
> > Interesting demo, thanks for sharing ;)
> >
> > Instead of the repeat loop to look for the correct item:
> >
> > on controlKeyDown theKey
> >   set itemdelimiter to tab
> >
> > repeat for the number of lines of btn "popupMenu" -- Menu items are
> > the "lines" of the Popup btn
> >   add 1 to theNum
> >   if last char of line theNum of btn "popupMenu" = theKey then \
> >   put item 1 of line theNum of btn "PopupMenu"  into fld "Rfld"
> > end repeat
> >
> >   pass controlKeyDown
> > end controlKeyDown
> >
> >
> > You may use the lineOffset function like this:
> >
> > get lineOffset("ctrl+" & theKey,btn "popupMenu")
> > if (it is 0) then
> >  put "Nothing" into fld "Rfld"
> > else
> >  put item 1 of line it of btn "PopupMenu"  into fld "Rfld"
> > end if
> >
> > Just a suggestion to facilitate the work of Revolution ;)
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8)
> > http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc
>
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Re: Send positions through Socket

[Mark Talluto]

Hi Shani,

You could send any kind of data you like through sockets (text as well as 
binary).  You just need to know what to do with it on the other end.  So you 
might send the data in a form like:  81,90,534,123
On the receiving end you would parse that message out and set the rect of the 
object there.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com





On Apr 22, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Shani wrote:

> HI, 
> 
> 
> 
> Can i send the position of an object 
> 
> X axis and y axis through Socket to other Program.
> 
> Like we send a string in this way 
> 
> 
> 
> write field "Outputs" to socket "127.0.0.0:21"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SHANI
> 
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Re: ANN: PopUp Menu with Key-Combination Shortcuts

[zryip theSlug]

2010/4/22 Roger Guay :
> Thanks very much, I'll change it!
>
> Cheers,
> Roger Guay

You're welcome Roger ;)

>Forgive me for asking, but should we refer to you as TheSlug?

My colleagues and friends call me the slug 8-)

2010/4/22 Andre Garzia :
> Personally, inside my head, I refer to him as Zryip (pronounced Zeerip in
> portuguese)...

Don't change anything in your mind Andre. Zryip is the sound produced
by a slug launched at full speed on the road.
The next time you see a slug cross a road, prick up your ears and
you'll hear this sound.

8-)


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RE: position of an object (from Script)

[Michael Kann]

Shani,

I've been following your thread a little and have been tempted to jump in. 
Would you mind telling us what your code is attempting to do? Perhaps someone 
has already written it for you. 

I noticed your name because the guy a liked most in the Winter Olympics was 
Shani Davis, the speedskater. 

Mike





--- On Thu, 4/22/10, Shani  wrote:

> From: Shani 
> Subject: RE: position of an object (from Script)
> To: "'How to use Revolution'" 
> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 2:02 PM
> Thanks Mark, 
> According to your guide line this task done through this
> command
> 
>    set the location of graphic ID 1026 to
> 350,200
> 
> now how can I use this through Socket.
> 
> Like 
>       write "XYZ"  & return to
> socket tSocket
> --this write string to java through Socket
> 
> like these position to socket on JAVA.
> 
> Reagrads,
> SHANI
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com
> [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com]
> On Behalf Of Mark
> Schonewille
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:58 PM
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: position of an object (from Script)
> 
> Hi Shani,
> 
> "Amir" is a string, not an object description. Object
> descriptions (or  
> object references or object expressions) look like:
> 
> field x
> field "Address"
> the long id of fld "Address"
> button 52 of card "Settings" of stack "Preferences"
> stack "Special Dialog" of stack "Main Project"
> 
> et cetera.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> 
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> 
> We have updated TwistAWord. Download TwistAWord 1.1 at
> http://www.twistaword.net
> 
> Op 22 apr 2010, om 20:28 heeft Shani het volgende
> geschreven:
> 
> > I use this
> > set the location of "amir" to 350,200
> > but it give error
> > execution error at line n/a (Chunk: error in object
> expression) near
> > "aamir", char 1
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com
> > [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com]
> On Behalf Of Mark
> > Schonewille
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:28 PM
> > To: How to use Revolution
> > Subject: Re: position of an object (from Script)
> >
> > Hi Shani,
> >
> > You might want to search the dictionary for
> "location". You also might
> > want to search for "width" and "height".
> >
> > You also will want to know that you can change almost
> all properties
> > of objects with the "set" command.
> >
> > Spending an evening with the documentation will
> definitely be very
> > useful. Reading the messages on this list would help
> you too.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Mark Schonewille
> >
> > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> > Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> >
> > We have updated TwistAWord. Download TwistAWord 1.1
> at
> > http://www.twistaword.net
> >
> > Op 22 apr 2010, om 19:04 heeft Shani het volgende
> geschreven:
> >
> >> How can i set the position of an object through
> script.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Like in object property profile. We set size and
> position (location).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How can I set the value like
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Position of ball x"243" and y= 22
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Object start from that position
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> SHANI
> 
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Placing a movie (videoClip)

[Gabel Paul]

Hello everyone:

I have imported a very short videoClip using File ... Import as a control ... 
video file. Then I put it into a custom property of a card. My problem is that 
I can't get it to play in the location I want. It always plays at the center of 
the card. I tried:

on mouseUp
   wait 20 ticks
   set the loc of the templateVideoClip to 200,200
   play videoClip id (the cardMovie of this cd) -- custom prop
end mouseUp

... but it doesn't work. How do I set the loc of the movie on the card?

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Re: Placing a movie (videoClip)

[Sarah Reichelt]

> I have imported a very short videoClip using File ... Import as a control ... 
> video file. Then I put it into a custom property of a card. My problem is 
> that I can't get it to play in the location I want. It always plays at the 
> center of the card. I tried:
>
> on mouseUp
>   wait 20 ticks
>   set the loc of the templateVideoClip to 200,200
>   play videoClip id (the cardMovie of this cd) -- custom prop
> end mouseUp
>
> ... but it doesn't work. How do I set the loc of the movie on the card?

I haven't used vidoeClips like this Paul, but for better control, I
suggest using a player object instead.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Placing a movie (videoClip)

[J. Landman Gay]

Gabel Paul wrote:

Hello everyone:

I have imported a very short videoClip using File ... Import as a control ... 
video file. Then I put it into a custom property of a card. My problem is that 
I can't get it to play in the location I want. It always plays at the center of 
the card. I tried:

on mouseUp
   wait 20 ticks
   set the loc of the templateVideoClip to 200,200
   play videoClip id (the cardMovie of this cd) -- custom prop
end mouseUp

... but it doesn't work. How do I set the loc of the movie on the card?


I think it's broken, no properties appear to "stick" except the 
defaults. Videoclips are pretty much deprecated now in favor of players, 
which is probably why there aren't any bug reports about this. There are 
several about how "stop playing" doesn't work though.


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Re: Placing a movie (videoClip)

[J. Landman Gay]

Gabel Paul wrote:

Hello everyone:

I have imported a very short videoClip using File ... Import as a control ... 
video file. Then I put it into a custom property of a card. My problem is that 
I can't get it to play in the location I want. It always plays at the center of 
the card. I tried:

on mouseUp
   wait 20 ticks
   set the loc of the templateVideoClip to 200,200
   play videoClip id (the cardMovie of this cd) -- custom prop
end mouseUp

... but it doesn't work. How do I set the loc of the movie on the card?



Wait, I lied. There's this:


So you can set the location with the syntax "play videoclip 1 at 
100,250", which works in the IDE, but fails in a standalone.


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Re: Placing a movie (videoClip)

[BNig]

Hi Paul,
this works for me in the IDE from a custom property
---
on mouseUp
   wait 20 ticks
   play videoClip (the cardMovie of this cd) at 300, 300 -- custom prop
end mouseUp

regards
Bernd
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Re: Mac Scrolling

[Kay C Lan]

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Graham & Heather Harrison  wrote:

>
> Thanks. That has defined the area of the problem; looking for a black rock
> in a coal cellar without a light - but at least I know I'm in the right
> cellar.___
>
>  So when you ran InfoWallet did you need to double click or not?
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Re: Property Profiles and revSetStackFileProfile - Issue

[Sarah Reichelt]

> Has someone already tried to used Property Profiles for multi-language 
> management and revSetStackFileProfile for changing the profile ?
>
> Are this property and function working well in all case ?
> I tried to used for multi language part of my application, but many times 
> properties disappear or doesn't work.
> The revSetStackFileProfile doesn't seem to work and change how application is 
> working.

I tried to use profiles a few weeks ago and failed. I couldn't get
them to accept me different settings, so I never even got as far as
trying revSetStackFileProfile.

Sarah
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UnInstall rev 4.0

[Graham & Heather Harrison]

Has anyone used rev Uninstall for rev 4.0?

I get to the point where it asks me (approx) "You have selected to uninstall 
all versions, do you want to continue?", and all I have is a live Cancel 
button, and a dead Back button.

Tried moving the Uninstall package to different places, and apart from 
nominating different parent files I get the same 
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Re: Mac Scrolling

[Graham & Heather Harrison]

I may not have been as clear as intended in my last mail - suffice to say 
scrolling in InfoWallet didn't work.

So I decided to try ssMacWindows to see how that went, and it doesn't at all. 
As far as I can see I have everything in the right places.

Then decided to scrap rev and totally reload. Uninstall refused to do anything 
(see separate thread), so I don't know if the latest install is completely new 
or not. The problem still exists.

Thinking back to something Jacqueline said about the first click being 
swallowed, I have had a problem for a while (can't remember exactly when it 
started) with hot-keys. A number which are in the form Ctl(Mac)-X do not work 
on first invocation, but do once their associated function has been otherwise 
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Re: Mac Scrolling

[J. Landman Gay]

Graham & Heather Harrison wrote:

I may not have been as clear as intended in my last mail - suffice to
say scrolling in InfoWallet didn't work.

So I decided to try ssMacWindows to see how that went, and it doesn't
at all. As far as I can see I have everything in the right places.

Then decided to scrap rev and totally reload. Uninstall refused to do
anything (see separate thread), so I don't know if the latest install
is completely new or not. The problem still exists.


On a Mac, uninstall doesn't really do much. Just drag the Rev app into 
the trash. Uninstall is for Windows installations mostly. But it sounds 
like you don't have to reinstall, given the hot keys thing you mention.




Thinking back to something Jacqueline said about the first click
being swallowed, I have had a problem for a while (can't remember
exactly when it started) with hot-keys. A number which are in the
form Ctl(Mac)-X do not work on first invocation, but do once their
associated function has been otherwise
triggered.


That does sound related. What happens if you temporarily turn off hot keys?

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Re: Mac Scrolling

[Graham & Heather Harrison]

I totally removed any third party apps directly acting on hot-keys, and 
restarted. No change to rev.

Again did a Safe Boot just to make sure, and still no change to rev.

While in Safe Boot I tried one of the problematic hot-keys (controlled directly 
from Services, not a third party app) and it still had the "don't work first 
time" behaviour.

I think I had better pursue this on the Mac front. I was able to live with it 
before, but not if it is going to affect rev, as I will never know if behaviour 
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Re: Mac Scrolling

[J. Landman Gay]

Graham & Heather Harrison wrote:

I totally removed any third party apps directly acting on hot-keys,
and restarted. No change to rev.

Again did a Safe Boot just to make sure, and still no change to rev.

While in Safe Boot I tried one of the problematic hot-keys
(controlled directly from Services, not a third party app) and it
still had the "don't work first time" behaviour.

I think I had better pursue this on the Mac front. I was able to live
with it before, but not if it is going to affect rev, as I will never
know if behaviour is abnormal or
not.


We'll tell you. :) You could try turning off all the system prefs 
hotkeys. If you do nail it down, let us know because it might help 
someone else someday.


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