date:20100530

Mark - try my modified version of Troz's stack ( I hope it's ok, Sarah )

go stack URL("
http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/ResourceCopier-20100530.rev";)

it 'copies' now by reading from one resource using getResource and setting
the data to another on another file using setResource().
CopyResource does not seem to work but this does... I've copied resources to
text files, and jpg files so far..

And by my copying resources between files, you have all the par

I've changed my mind about using the resource fork today. I hope this
feature can be used for a while. It might be quite handy for adding metadata
to 'ordinary' looking text files.  But only on Macs.

   These files will of course probably choke on PCs or will be separated
into something else



On 30 May 2010 12:37, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> Stephen,
>
> From my first e-mail on this topic:
>
>
>  I am trying to use the setResource function, but it doesn't work. I tried
>> it with Rev 4.0 on Mac OS X 10.5 and Rev 2.6.1 on Mac OS 9.2.2. With both
>> systems, I get the same result: the resource is created (including ID, name
>> and flags, but the data are not written to it.
>>
>
> Perhaps I should add that Mac OS 9.2.2 wasn't running in Classic or in an
> emulator. I used Mac OS 9.2.2 to boot the machine.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>
> Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote
> http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
> Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share
> the clipboard of your computer over the local network.
>
> On 30 mei 2010, at 21:30, stephen barncard wrote:
>
>  Perhaps the problem is Snow Leopard -
>> We should assume the old resource fork is officially unsupported and not
>> working in SN. They've been planning on removing resource forks from files
>> for a decade.
>> Back in the hypercard days, one could use the resource fork like today's
>> custom properties in Rev. I would store text, sounds, binaries, images as
>> resources.
>> I remember the resource system wasn't as robust as Rev as far as file
>> integrity; there would be occasional problems with resources, but it
>> worked
>> pretty well.
>>
>> Have you tried this on another machine, perhaps one running Tiger or
>> below?
>>
>>
> ___
> use-revolution mailing list
> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
>



-- 
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: RevMobile & Android

2010-05-30 Thread chris livermore

I finally gave up my trusty mobile for a smartphone, Nexus One...  
iPhone just didn't cut it.


On 31/05/2010, at 7:31 AM, tkuyp...@telenet.be wrote:

I bought the same one, the Sony-Ericsson Xperia X10... I like it and  
I want to start developing for it...



Met vriendelijke groeten,

Ton Kuypers



On 30-mei-2010, at 22:12, viktoras d. wrote:

I am not interested in iPhones or iPads anymore ;-) so I am about  
to buy Sony-Ericsson Xperia or one of the Android powered  HTC  
phones that now are sold throughout the Europe (preferably the one  
with GPS).



It would be really interesting and useful to know what point we are  
at with the RevMobile for Android platform.


Viktoras



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your  
subscription preferences:

http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution






Chris Livermore - Senior Project Manager
www.kipmedia.com
Mobile 0403 288 504
cont...@kipmedia.com
__
B.Sc., Dip.Biol.Sc., Dip.Prof.Comm (multimedia).
- Scientific/Medical - multimedia education & training
- online databases, websites, cd, dvd, video
__





___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Problems setting a player object to an alias in a script

2010-05-30 Thread Martin Koob


I was able to get an alias that pointed to an mp3 player to load in the
player.  I used the following script.

on mouseUp
   answer file "Select the MP3 file."  with type "MP3 files|mp3|Mp3 "
   set the filename of player "player" to it
end mouseUp

This allowed me to select the alias but when I checked the player with the
property inspector the path was the path to the original.

One thing I found was that  if the alias has the word 'alias' at the end it
would not work I had to make sure it ended with .mp3.  


If you want to make sure the open file dialog allows you to open mp3 files
you have to put
 with type "MP3 files|mp3|Mp3 "

Note there is a space before the final quote.

Martin
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Problems-setting-a-player-object-to-an-alias-in-a-script-tp2236683p2236746.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Re rev stacks on the ipad

Bill Ziegler wrote:
> Sorry gang, I should have written wirelessly though Bluetooth or wifi
> directly to a classroom computer, not over the Internet.
>
> Bill

Check out the video 1/3 down the page.  When/if this ships, there will be
no problem making Rev Apps for it.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/exopc-slate-hands-on/

~Roger Eller

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Problems setting a player object to an alias in a script

2010-05-30 Thread Howard Bornstein

I want to set a player object to an alias of an MP3 file. If I do it in a
script, the player returns the message "could not create movie reference".
However, if I set the player manually (i.e. by clicking the folder icon on
property palette's source field) it takes the alias as a valid file.

However, when selecting a file for the player manually, using the built-in
dialog box, there is an Enable popup that defaults to Quicktime Movies. When
this is selected, it is impossible to select an MP3 file. But if I change
the popup to All Files, then I can choose the MP3.

Apparently, when trying to do this via script, the MP3s are not available
because All Files (or its equivalent) is not selected. How can I get access
to all files using the "set filename of player n to [filename]" in
Transcript?

-- 
Regards,

Howard Bornstein
---
www.designeq.com
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: RevMobile & Android

2010-05-30 Thread tkuyp...@telenet.be

I bought the same one, the Sony-Ericsson Xperia X10... I like it and I want to 
start developing for it...


Met vriendelijke groeten,

Ton Kuypers



On 30-mei-2010, at 22:12, viktoras d. wrote:

> I am not interested in iPhones or iPads anymore ;-) so I am about to buy 
> Sony-Ericsson Xperia or one of the Android powered  HTC phones that now are 
> sold throughout the Europe (preferably the one with GPS).
> 
> 
> It would be really interesting and useful to know what point we are at with 
> the RevMobile for Android platform.
> 
> Viktoras
> 

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Writing to the resource fork

Perhaps setting the flags have something to do with these resources. RL
seems to work.
I'm not sure exactly what's going on here - I think it's possible to make
this work, but we may have to "dance among the specs" to find out.

On 30 May 2010 13:54, stephen barncard wrote:

>
>
> --
> setResource(destinationFile,resourceType,[resID],[resName],flagsList,data)
>
>
> put fld "Dest" of card id 1002 of stack "ResourceCopier" into tDest
>
> put "This is a test text resource." into pData
>
> get setResource(tDest,"TEXT",128,"ResourceCreator",RL,pData)
>
>
> put it && the result  (to see errs)
>
>
>
> I'm going add "CREATE RSRC FORK" button to my copy of Sarah's stack.
>
>
> THis test was run on a Mac G5 with Leopard 10.5.8 and Rev 4.5.2
>
>
> On 27 May 2010 15:25, Mark Schonewille 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For a new project, it is essential that I can read from and write to the
>> resource fork of a file. I am not looking for a way to copy resource forks.
>>
>>


-- 
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Writing to the resource fork

Perhaps "copyresource" is not working right. "setresource" seems to be
working for me.


On 30 May 2010 14:02, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> stephen barncard wrote:
>
>  One must CREATE a resource fork FIRST.
>>
>
> Does resfile work for that?:
>
>  put empty into url ("resfile:"& tFilePath)
>
>
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
>  Fourth World
>  Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
>  Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
>  revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv
>
> ___
> use-revolution mailing list
> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
>



-- 
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Writing to the resource fork

2010-05-30 Thread Richard Gaskin


stephen barncard wrote:


One must CREATE a resource fork FIRST.


Does resfile work for that?:

  put empty into url ("resfile:"& tFilePath)


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World
 Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com
 revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Writing to the resource fork

Found it, Mark...
It does work.

One must CREATE a resource fork FIRST.

I was working with Sarah's *Resource Copier* stack, but it had no facility
to create a new fork in a virgin file, and in fact could not put resources
into a blank text file..

(many) years ago I remember running into difficulty with HC on this matter
at first. So I decided to create a single 'dummy' resource to get things
going. Here's the code that brought the text file to life as a resource
holder (run in the extended msg box) and using other parts set up in Sarah's
stack:

-- 
setResource(destinationFile,resourceType,[resID],[resName],flagsList,data)

put fld "Dest" of card id 1002 of stack "ResourceCopier" into tDest

put "This is a test text resource." into pData

get setResource(tDest,"TEXT",128,"ResourceCreator",RL,pData)

put it && the result  (to see errs)

I'm going add "CREATE RSRC FORK" button to my copy of Sarah's stack.

THis test was run on a Mac G5 with Leopard 10.5.8 and Rev 4.5.2

On 27 May 2010 15:25, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For a new project, it is essential that I can read from and write to the
> resource fork of a file. I am not looking for a way to copy resource forks.
>
>
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Writing to the resource fork

Right. My question was framed improperly I guess.

If you were just trying to recover data in old Mac files, then one would
only need to READ the resources, but you were talking about
*writing*resources, and I was curious why one would want to sustain a
discontinued
(and broken) technology in a new application.

No big deal. Inquiring minds... etc.

On 30 May 2010 13:19, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> Stephen,
>
> I'm dealing with files that contain resource forks, not with stacks.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>
> Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote
> http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
> Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share
> the clipboard of your computer over the local network.
>
> On 30 mei 2010, at 21:52, stephen barncard wrote:
>
>  How odd. I remember using the Rev resource calls to try and recover and
>> convert some audio resources in old stack. I think I ended up using
>> SoundEdit to recover the audio resources, so it must have not been
>> successful in rev.
>>
>> I noticed you want to write as well as read resources. May I ask why you
>> want to even use this unsupported technology today, and why your problem
>> can't be accomplished with custom properties?
>>
>> sqb
>>
>
> ___
> use-revolution mailing list
> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
>



-- 
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Writing to the resource fork

2010-05-30 Thread Mark Schonewille


Stephen,

I'm dealing with files that contain resource forks, not with stacks.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer

Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a  
quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and  
share the clipboard of your computer over the local network.


On 30 mei 2010, at 21:52, stephen barncard wrote:

How odd. I remember using the Rev resource calls to try and recover  
and

convert some audio resources in old stack. I think I ended up using
SoundEdit to recover the audio resources, so it must have not been
successful in rev.

I noticed you want to write as well as read resources. May I ask why  
you
want to even use this unsupported technology today, and why your  
problem

can't be accomplished with custom properties?

sqb


___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: RevMobile & Android

2010-05-30 Thread viktoras d.

I am not interested in iPhones or iPads anymore ;-) so I am about to buy 
Sony-Ericsson Xperia or one of the Android powered  HTC phones that now 
are sold throughout the Europe (preferably the one with GPS).



It would be really interesting and useful to know what point we are at 
with the RevMobile for Android platform.


Viktoras


tkuyp...@telenet.be wrote:

Maybe I've missed it, but due to the decision of Apple and the result for 
RevMobile, what is the e.t.a. of RevMobile for Android?
I just received my Sony Xperia X10 and I really want to start development for 
it...


Met vriendelijke groeten,
Warm Regards,



Ton Kuypers
+32 (0) 477 739 530

Aardbemden 11 • B-2400 • Mol • Belgium
www.publishingtools4u.com




___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

  


___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

[OT] revMobile and SDK

2010-05-30 Thread François Chaplais

I have reread my last post and, while I do think what I have said in it, I 
regret having posted it. there has been enough trolling on this.
Very best
François



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: revMobile and SDK

2010-05-30 Thread François Chaplais

In France, the Competition council stated that it was illegal for Orange to be 
the sole distributor of the iPhone. If I recall correctly, the complaint was 
issued by Bouygues Telecom, whose CEO, incidentally, is a close friend of 
Nicolas Sarkozy. The consequence was a sharp increase in the overall number of 
sold iPhones.
There no official complaint whatsoever in France as for the way apps are 
distributed to the iPhone. After all, the iPhone is not in a position of 
dominance in the market of mobile phones, or even smartphones. It only has set 
some trends. In my opinion, Apple has the same right to govern the distribution 
channels for the very devices is sells, much like it has the right to bind the 
sale of Mac OS X to the sale of a Macintosh. It is their own product in both 
cases, and neither is in a position of such dominance that it can be a threat 
to competition.
As far as I can tell, the commercialization of the iPhone has resulted in an 
overall increase of "smartphones" at the expense of traditional mobile phones. 
So, in the point of view of the EU, it is not a threat to competition, and, if 
I understand the US rules, it has been beneficial to the consumer, so, even if 
Apple had a position of dominance, it would not be illegal by US rules (is that 
right?)
I my opinion, much more questionable is the way Apple manipulates the market of 
NAND memory chips, but this is not a high profile issue.
Best regards,
François

Le 30 mai 2010 à 11:06, Mark Schonewille a écrit :

> Ian and Mark,
> 
> I expect the European Commission to "discover" that keeping competitors' apps 
> out of the app store (e.g. http://qurl.tk/be ) solely because they're 
> competitors' apps is illegal, but that may take another decade. Whether the 
> EC will recognise Apple's "technical" reasons to block Flash apps as 
> artificial and hence illegal remains to be seen, but usually the EC is 
> stricter than the US authorities when it comes to keeping the market 
> competitive. In Europe, once you buy an iPhone, you can do with it whatever 
> you like as long as you don't violate national laws. You're free to violate 
> Apple's license conditions, but that means Apple can deny access to the App 
> store (for now).
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> 
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> 
> Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote 
> http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
> Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share the 
> clipboard of your computer over the local network.
> 
> On 30 mei 2010, at 10:53, Ian Wood wrote:
>> 
>> The App Store is the only public distribution channel for Apple's mobile 
>> devices, outside the enterprise market there's no way to 'sideload' apps 
>> other than HTML5 webapps.
>> 
>> Maybe nuts, but there doesn't appear to be anything illegal about it.
>> 
>> Ian
> ___
> use-revolution mailing list
> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
> preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Writing to the resource fork

How odd. I remember using the Rev resource calls to try and recover and
convert some audio resources in old stack. I think I ended up using
SoundEdit to recover the audio resources, so it must have not been
successful in rev.

I noticed you want to write as well as read resources. May I ask why you
want to even use this unsupported technology today, and why your problem
can't be accomplished with custom properties?

sqb

On 30 May 2010 12:37, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> Stephen,
>
> From my first e-mail on this topic:
>
>
>  I am trying to use the setResource function, but it doesn't work. I tried
>> it with Rev 4.0 on Mac OS X 10.5 and Rev 2.6.1 on Mac OS 9.2.2. With both
>> systems, I get the same result: the resource is created (including ID, name
>> and flags, but the data are not written to it.
>>
>
> Perhaps I should add that Mac OS 9.2.2 wasn't running in Classic or in an
> emulator. I used Mac OS 9.2.2 to boot the machine.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>
> Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote
> http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
> Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and share
> the clipboard of your computer over the local network.
>
> On 30 mei 2010, at 21:30, stephen barncard wrote:
>
>  Perhaps the problem is Snow Leopard -
>> We should assume the old resource fork is officially unsupported and not
>> working in SN. They've been planning on removing resource forks from files
>> for a decade.
>> Back in the hypercard days, one could use the resource fork like today's
>> custom properties in Rev. I would store text, sounds, binaries, images as
>> resources.
>> I remember the resource system wasn't as robust as Rev as far as file
>> integrity; there would be occasional problems with resources, but it
>> worked
>> pretty well.
>>
>> Have you tried this on another machine, perhaps one running Tiger or
>> below?
>>
>>
> ___
> use-revolution mailing list
> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
>



-- 
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Re rev stacks on the ipad


On May 30, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Bill Ziegler wrote:

> Sorry gang, I should have written wirelessly though Bluetooth or wifi 
> directly to a classroom computer, not over the Internet.


Yes, and that was what I tested, and it works with a wifi connection but not 
the bluetooth one.



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re rev stacks on the ipad

2010-05-30 Thread Bill Ziegler

Sorry gang, I should have written wirelessly though Bluetooth or wifi  
directly to a classroom computer, not over the Internet.


Bill

Sent from my iPhone
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Behavior changing layer

Chipp Walters has an intuitive tool that makes sense and allows safe
changing of layers, especially within groups. I can't find the individual
plugin online today, but I assume it's included in his alt plugins toolbar
download .

On 30 May 2010 05:40, Shao Sean  wrote:

>
> If you have a known number of buttons in the group you can set the layer
> to the layer of the group + the number of controls
>
> group - layer 10
> - button 1 - layer 11
> - button 2 - layer 12
> - button 3 - layer 13
>
>
> button script
>
> on mouseUp
>  set the relayerGroupedControls to TRUE
>  set the layer of me to (the layer of group "toolbar" + 3)
> end mouseUp
>
> ___
> use-revolution mailing list
> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
>



-- 
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Writing to the resource fork

2010-05-30 Thread Mark Schonewille


Stephen,

From my first e-mail on this topic:

I am trying to use the setResource function, but it doesn't work. I  
tried it with Rev 4.0 on Mac OS X 10.5 and Rev 2.6.1 on Mac OS  
9.2.2. With both systems, I get the same result: the resource is  
created (including ID, name and flags, but the data are not written  
to it.


Perhaps I should add that Mac OS 9.2.2 wasn't running in Classic or in  
an emulator. I used Mac OS 9.2.2 to boot the machine.


--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer

Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a  
quote http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and  
share the clipboard of your computer over the local network.


On 30 mei 2010, at 21:30, stephen barncard wrote:


Perhaps the problem is Snow Leopard -
We should assume the old resource fork is officially unsupported and  
not
working in SN. They've been planning on removing resource forks from  
files

for a decade.
Back in the hypercard days, one could use the resource fork like  
today's
custom properties in Rev. I would store text, sounds, binaries,  
images as

resources.
I remember the resource system wasn't as robust as Rev as far as file
integrity; there would be occasional problems with resources, but it  
worked

pretty well.

Have you tried this on another machine, perhaps one running Tiger or  
below?




___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Writing to the resource fork

Perhaps the problem is Snow Leopard -
We should assume the old resource fork is officially unsupported and not
working in SN. They've been planning on removing resource forks from files
for a decade.
Back in the hypercard days, one could use the resource fork like today's
custom properties in Rev. I would store text, sounds, binaries, images as
resources.
I remember the resource system wasn't as robust as Rev as far as file
integrity; there would be occasional problems with resources, but it worked
pretty well.

Have you tried this on another machine, perhaps one running Tiger or below?

On 29 May 2010 23:56, Joe F.  wrote:

> Right, empties all.
> Also interesting, I could only getResources from the files I created with
> Rev.
>
> I was pretty sure I had seen all those working in someone else's stack.
> I thought maybe "open for binary read" might work, but no.
>
> Could this be something that was once working and is now broken in 4.5-dp2?
>
> On May 29, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
>
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > As I explained in my original e-mail, your example creates the resources,
> but doesn't write the actual data.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Mark Schonewille
> >
> > Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> > Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> >
> > Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote
> http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
> > Download Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com and
> share the clipboard of your computer over the local network.
> >
> > On 29 mei 2010, at 04:58, Joe F. wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know about all that. I just moved to snow leopard so I don't
> even know if I have a hex editor available.
> >> If I open the file it looks empty; but I wouldn't know about resource
> fork reading on OS X, they all look like flat files to me.
> >>
> >> Here's the script I used in a button that creates the file with 2
> resources,then retrieves them to a field named "Notes":
> >>
> >> on mouseUp
> >>
> >>  -- Create file first
> >>  put empty into URL "binfile:~/desktop/resource test.dat"
> >>  get setResource("~/desktop/resource
> test.dat","TEXT",999,"Test","U","Hello World")
> >>  get setResource("~/desktop/resource
> test.dat","MARK",999,"Test","U","Hello World2")
> >>  put getResources("~/desktop/resource test.dat") into fld "Notes"
> >> end mouseUp
> >>
> >> Maybe they're not "real" resources; only some kind of special "rev"
> resources?
> >
> > ___
> > use-revolution mailing list
> > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
>
> ___
> use-revolution mailing list
> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> subscription preferences:
> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
>



-- 
-
Stephen Barncard
San Francisco
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: rev stacks on the iPad

On May 30, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Robert Mann wrote:

> - is it ok to try as an individual to propose such an app for the apple
> store??
> - is it ok te privately distribute outside the iphone app (eg several
> iphones in an enterprise, not member of the "iphone enterprise program"

It'll be interesting to see what they say, but if as I suspect the answer is No 
to those two questions, you still have the option of running the stack on up to 
100 devices, using the non-enterprise iPhone license. So, the answer the the 
last question should be Yes up to 100 devices, and No for above 100 devices.

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: rev stacks on the iPad

2010-05-30 Thread Robert Mann


I just asked precisions from runrev


Sorry to bother, but.. would it be possible to precise what the actual
revIphone license does allow and does not!
It could interest all parties member of the revMobile beta program.

WHat I understood was :

- prototyping, testing and expanding with object interface library sharing
- is it ok to try as an individual to propose such an app for the apple
store??
- is it ok te privately distribute outside the iphone app (eg several
iphones in an enterprise, not member of the "iphone enterprise program"

thanks

Robert M
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/rev-stacks-on-the-iPad-tp2236312p2236431.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Rev Stacks on the iPad

On the Linux/MP3/iPod front, you could have a Rev stack in Linux that creates 
the MP3s, and then you play those on the mobile device via the url of the file, 
if it's web shared. That works for iPad for iPhone, and probably iPod Touch. It 
even continues to play the audio if you have pressed the off button to turn off 
the display.

For what that's worth.



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Rev Stacks on the iPad

On May 30, 2010, at 1:26 PM, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:

> Too bad he said wi-fi may not be an optioin either. Does the iPad have a
> wired ethernet port?

I took his "direct connect" comment to mean a direct connect to the computer, 
but not strictly specifying a cable. I'm sure he knows that iPads don't have 
Ethernet, and it's debatable whether it has USB, so I deduced that he meant a 
direct wireless connection. And that's what I tested.

The non-WiFi comment was, I think, referring to there being no Internet 
connection via WiFi, or even a general WiFi network. That wouldn't prevent you 
from connecting to the wireless of an individual computer.

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Rev Stacks on the iPad

2010-05-30 Thread Peter Alcibiades

"I was hoping to directly connect to a computer physically located in the
same classroom. "

Does it have any wired connections? The reviews seemed to say that it had
neither ethernet nor usb. So this sounds fairly hopeless. First there is
no supported version of Rev. Second, there is no way of distributing the
app to the users even if there were a supported version of Rev. Third,
there is no way of connecting physically to another machine to run the app
remotely.

The task (which is our task also in a situation with some similarities) then
just becomes to tell the parents clearly in advance that the iPad has
deliberately been made useless by the manufacturer for this particular
purpose. It is 'defective by design'. Buy something from a supplier who
has tried to make it possible to install any software you want, and to
connect via ethernet or usb to other devices. There is no shortage of them.

Our situation is a bit reminiscent, the application needs usb disk mode for
mp3 players, so iPods can't be used with it. We are running Linux, and we
can't run iTunes, and will not try and support gktpod. The answer is a
large notice saying that Apple, for reasons best known to itself, has
removed the functionality necessary to use this application from its recent
models, so we do not support iPods. Sorry.

Peter
--
View this message in context:
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/rev-stacks-on-the-iPad-tp2236312p2236419.html
Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Rev Stacks on the iPad

Colin Holgate wrote:
> I just did a test with Desktop Connect. Bad news - sure enough,
> audio isn't sent over the network. Good news - you can do a direct
> WiFi network from the computer to the iPad, and connect to the
> machine that way. Unfortunately BlueTooth doesn't work out, the
> computer thinks that the iPad is a BlueTooth headset.

Too bad he said wi-fi may not be an optioin either. Does the iPad have a
wired ethernet port?

>
> I used the Keywords application to test it, and felt cheated when
> I failed by saying: "the fish" "is looking" "for food". I mean, it
> looked hungry to me!

LOL! I tried that one too. The rewards videos are cool.

~Roger Eller

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Rev Stacks on the iPad

I just did a test with Desktop Connect. Bad news - sure enough, audio isn't 
sent over the network. Good news - you can do a direct WiFi network from the 
computer to the iPad, and connect to the machine that way. Unfortunately 
BlueTooth doesn't work out, the computer thinks that the iPad is a BlueTooth 
headset.

I used the Keywords application to test it, and felt cheated when I failed by 
saying: "the fish" "is looking" "for food". I mean, it looked hungry to me!



___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Survey Caution

2010-05-30 Thread Björnke von Gierke

The "see also" links are the single most important part of the documentation. 
they beat the description itself. It's a shame that RunRev somewhen decided to 
put them inline into the field  (i think it was in rev 2.2), where they're hard 
to find (variable positioning below other, less important stuff).

The main reason I made BvG Docu was to get decent usage out of see also. 
Although slightly less feature laden then the build in way to look at the 
documentation, I still prefer it due to this single difference. It can be 
downloaded from my site, .

On 30 May 2010, at 00:56, Mark Wieder wrote:

> stephen-
> 
> Saturday, May 29, 2010, 2:15:56 PM, you wrote:
> 
>> My personal experience with looking at the 'see also' links is that they are
>> incredibly valuable when working with previously unknown functions,
> 
> I often find that the "see also" links get me where I wanted to go,
> rather than my first guess at what I thought I wanted...

-- 

official ChatRev page:
http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev

Chat with other RunRev developers:
go stack URL "http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev";

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Rev Stacks on the iPad

2010-05-30 Thread William Ziegler

I don't think the Enterprise route will go over well. I write the software at 
home at night, weekends and summer as more of a hobby than as part of my job. I 
have more control over giving it away this way. I have some posted on my on-Rev 
page so any school or parents can download them for free. 

www.billziegler.com 

<>

I forgot to mention. Most of the school districts I work with will not allow 
wireless access at this time and 3g connections are spotty deep in the schools. 
I was hoping to directly connect to a computer physically located in the same 
classroom.

Bill
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: rev stacks on the iPad [SOLVED]

On 05/30/2010 at 10:49 AM, Bill Ziegler  wrote:
> My question is this;
> Is it possible to tether the iPad to a Mac or PC, using Bluetooth or
> Wifi (not Internet), located in the same room. Essentially the iPad
> would act as a touch interface AND display for the host computer,
> respond with little delay and channel any audio through the iPad.
>
> I don't have experience with ipad remote apps but have read that the
> "logmein" app doesn't transmit audio to the iPad.

I just realized this may be over-complicated by thinking you have to use
'software' for audio. If the computer is in the same classroom, why not
just use off-the-shelf wireless headphones with the transmitter connected
to the PC in the room. The rev app will work normally, including audio, but
the display will simply be a remote session on the iPad (uh-umm, or Android
tablet) device. If course, after testing and finding out there is display
lag, you may need to incorporate an appropriate audio delay in your app to
compensate.

~Roger Eller

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: rev stacks on the iPad

Colin Holgate wrote:
> Here's an info page on that program:
>
> http://developer.apple.com/programs/iphone/enterprise/

Thanks for clarifying whos enterprise they refer to.

~Roger Eller

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Clone + group question

2010-05-30 Thread Jeff Massung

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Colin Holgate  wrote:

>
> On May 30, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Jeff Massung wrote:
>
> > Nevermind, just found it... start editing [group] and stop editing
> > [group]. Next question, though, as a follow-up:
>
>
> Do you know that you can directly clone something that is in a group, and
> the clone is also in that group? Without needing to do the start editing
> part.
>

That just saved me some time. Thanks. ;-)

Jef M.
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: rev stacks on the iPad

On May 30, 2010, at 11:22 AM, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:

> It is too bad that developers may have to tip-toe around Apple "LAW" to
> help children, but this is what I see... Rev has stated that Enterprise
> customers can develop apps for internal use within their own company.

Just to make one thing clear, at least I believe this is the case, the 
Enterprise referred to is Apple's one, not Rev's one. Making an iPad App using 
Rev Enterprise does not give you the rights to then distribute the App across 
your organization. To get that right you have to be an Enterprise iPhone 
Developer.

Here's an info page on that program:

http://developer.apple.com/programs/iphone/enterprise/

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Clone + group question

On May 30, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Jeff Massung wrote:

> Nevermind, just found it... start editing [group] and stop editing
> [group]. Next question, though, as a follow-up:

Do you know that you can directly clone something that is in a group, and the 
clone is also in that group? Without needing to do the start editing part.

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: rev stacks on the iPad

On 05/30/2010 at 10:49 AM, Bill Ziegler  wrote:
> I have tried to follow all the threads on revMobile and running rev
> apps on the iPad.
> My question may have already been answered but I missed it. I am an
> assistive technology consultant in Pennsylvania and use runRev stacks
> to support students with disabilities. Apple's locking out revMobile
> is frustrating and disheartening. The iPad has a unique cool factor
> with students who would otherwise shun a device for fear of looking
> different. It could provide, when paired with runRev, a portable/
> programmable environment allowing teachers to adapt curriculum on the
> fly while the student is seated among their peers.

Bill, I applaud your efforts in working FOR kids with disabilities. Several
years ago, I had some experience with the AlphaSmart for my own child. I
managed to convince then to allow the use of a pocket WinCE device because
the OS was similar to the classroom PCs, which made the learning curve less
than with the AS. The AS wasn't that bad, but I can see how intuitive
software on touch devices like the iPad and Android tablets will make a
huge difference.

> My question is this;
> Is it possible to tether the iPad to a Mac or PC, using Bluetooth or
> Wifi (not Internet), located in the same room. Essentially the iPad
> would act as a touch interface AND display for the host computer,
> respond with little delay and channel any audio through the iPad.
>
> I don't have experience with ipad remote apps but have read that the
> "logmein" app doesn't transmit audio to the iPad.

There are many ports of VNC for most OSs. I don't remember for sure whether
audio is included or not. I know that RDP for Windows can pass through
audio.

>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> Sent from my iPad

It is too bad that developers may have to tip-toe around Apple "LAW" to
help children, but this is what I see... Rev has stated that Enterprise
customers can develop apps for internal use within their own company. These
apps will not be sold. Therefore, if a school system wants to help kids
with disabilities, they could staff a Rev developer, and maintain an
enterprise license of RevMobile. Am I missing something here?

~Roger Eller

___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Clone + group question

2010-05-30 Thread Jeff Massung

Nevermind, just found it... start editing [group] and stop editing
[group]. Next question, though, as a follow-up:

Once I say start editing group, I get errors about not being able to find
the group I want to clone (can't find background group, or something of that
nature).

Any hints?

Jeff M.
___
use-revolution mailing list
use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription 
preferences:
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: rev stacks on the iPad