Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque-

Sunday, July 11, 2010, 8:02:44 PM, you wrote:

filter tFiles without *.app* -- remove apps

You may want to change that to

   filter tFiles without *.app -- remove apps

just to be safe so you don't catch My.appliances or
An.apple.a.day.

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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Sunday, July 11, 2010, 8:02:44 PM, you wrote:


   filter tFiles without *.app* -- remove apps


You may want to change that to

   filter tFiles without *.app -- remove apps

just to be safe so you don't catch My.appliances or
An.apple.a.day.



I knew someone would bring that up. :) There's a trailing slash at the 
end of the file path because of the -F flag in the shell command. I 
suppose I could check the last character instead. I also had to add more 
checks for the other odd characters the -F flag inserts at the end, 
asterisks in particular.


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Re: answer file and windows 7

2010-07-12 Thread Olivier Dussutour

Hello,
Thank you for your response but it doesn't work too.
Your code works but win7 chooses the library as default folder and not my 
folder questionnaires
In fact, the two codes works (your and mine) but it requires the 
compatibility xp mode. It's not a solution!

I'm the only one in this case?

Cordialement,
Olivier Dussutour
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Olivier-

Sunday, July 11, 2010, 10:35:09 AM, you wrote:


Hello,
It's the first time that i post a message to the list :-s


Welcome.


I'm french and my english is deplorable, sorry
I have problems with the command answer file and windows 7. It have no 
effect!?!

my code is :
answer file Selectionnez un questionnaire : with
questionnaires/ with type Text|txt
Can you help me? Thank you.


Your English is fine. Much better than my deplorable French. Does this
do what you want?

set the defaultFolder to questionnaires
answer file Selectionnez un questionnaire : with type Text|txt

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OT: Free eBook about JQuery for a limited time

2010-07-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Dear all,

for a limited time Sitepoint is giving away a very good eBook (normal price 
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Re: OT: Free eBook about JQuery for a limited time

2010-07-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Sorry,

i forgot the link.

http://www.sitepoint.com/launch/thiscup


Am 12.07.2010 um 08:57 schrieb Matthias Rebbe:

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Re: answer file and windows 7

2010-07-12 Thread G. Wolfgang Gaich

 Hello Olivier,

answer file Select a PDF File... with c:/Users/gg/ with filter 
PDF,*.pdf

works for me on win 7

Don't use the of type form on windows systems ( see the dictionary)

Best,
Wolfgang


Am 12.07.2010 08:18, schrieb Olivier Dussutour:

Hello,
Thank you for your response but it doesn't work too.
Your code works but win7 chooses the library as default folder and not 
my folder questionnaires
In fact, the two codes works (your and mine) but it requires the 
compatibility xp mode. It's not a solution!

I'm the only one in this case?

Cordialement,
Olivier Dussutour
olivierdussut...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: answer file and windows 7



Olivier-

Sunday, July 11, 2010, 10:35:09 AM, you wrote:


Hello,
It's the first time that i post a message to the list :-s


Welcome.


I'm french and my english is deplorable, sorry
I have problems with the command answer file and windows 7. It 
have no effect!?!

my code is :
answer file Selectionnez un questionnaire : with
questionnaires/ with type Text|txt
Can you help me? Thank you.


Your English is fine. Much better than my deplorable French. Does this
do what you want?

set the defaultFolder to questionnaires
answer file Selectionnez un questionnaire : with type Text|txt

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Re: [ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
Dear Rodeo Transfert Dream Team,

Just waiting for its public announcement to license it ;-)

Kind Regards,

Pierre

Le 12 juil. 2010 à 06:38, Jerry Daniels a écrit :

 Rodeo Transfer will not be included in the release version of Rodeo, but 
 become a separate, premium product with a real price tag.

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Re: [ANN] Step By Step 02 - Introduction to the Data Grid is on the road

2010-07-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
Thanks a lot for this unbelievable usefull stack !

Kind Regards,

Pierre

Le 12 juil. 2010 à 01:44, zryip theSlug a écrit :

 Dear List,
 
 The Slug is happy to announce the availability of a new stack in the
 step by step collection.
 
 The Step by step 02 - Introduction to the datagrid presents:
 - What is a Datagrid table?
 - What is a Datagrid form?
 - What is a cell?
 - What is a row?
 - What is a template?
 - What is a behavior?
 - How to populate a grid with text or data?
 - What event for what usage?
 
 The tutorial stack contains a small lab to experiment the example and
 study script and templates.
 
 
 It is a different approach than the available lessons. The Trevor's
 lesson remains essential ;)
 
 I'm waiting your feedbacks to improve this first tutorial about the
 Datagrid object 8-)
 
 
 You can download the tutorial stack here:
 http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_phocadownloadview=categoryid=6:datagrid-step-by-stepItemid=63
 
 A small preview of the stack is available here:
 http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/images/stories/Preview/sbs_datagrid_preview.png
 
 
 Regards,
 -- 
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Re: OT: Free eBook about JQuery for a limited time

2010-07-12 Thread viktoras d.

Matthias, thank you for sharing this with us :-)!

All the best!
Viktoras

Matthias Rebbe wrote:

Sorry,

i forgot the link.

http://www.sitepoint.com/launch/thiscup


Am 12.07.2010 um 08:57 schrieb Matthias Rebbe:

  

Dear all,

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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread Mike Bonner
I had a few folders respond that way, everything else I point it at
responds with a 0 which I assume means no bit set. I have yet to find
one that does have the bit set. Perhaps the ones that fail, are set
but I don't have permission to do the check?  Not sure, as it is,
doesn't seem very useful. The other information in the thread to
compile a list of extensions set as packages would be best, but still
a pain. Obviously the finder can figure it out so that it can add the
context item to show package contents. So most likely the information
is in the library mentioned in the thread.

Things are never simple. Good luck with all this.
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:49 PM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
 Mike Bonner wrote:

 Based on information in the link below, I believe you can do
 getFileInfo -aB directoryname  where -aB checks to see if the bundle
 attribute bit is set,

 That sounds promising. I've read up and see now that I'm looking for
 packages, not bundles, and that there's a difference. But Terminal tells me
 No manual entry for getFileInfo.

 Sigh.

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Re: [ANN] Step By Step 02 - Introduction to the Data Grid is on the road

2010-07-12 Thread Scott Morrow
Zryip TheSlug,

Your Data-Grids tour is both a wonderfully informative primer and a beautifully 
rendered example of interface design.  Thank you for this thoughtful and 
generous example!

Scott Morrow

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(Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
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On Jul 11, 2010, at 4:44 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:

 Dear List,
 
 The Slug is happy to announce the availability of a new stack in the
 step by step collection.
 
 The Step by step 02 - Introduction to the datagrid presents:
 - What is a Datagrid table?
 - What is a Datagrid form?
 - What is a cell?
 - What is a row?
 - What is a template?
 - What is a behavior?
 - How to populate a grid with text or data?
 - What event for what usage?
 
 The tutorial stack contains a small lab to experiment the example and
 study script and templates.
 
 
 It is a different approach than the available lessons. The Trevor's
 lesson remains essential ;)
 
 I'm waiting your feedbacks to improve this first tutorial about the
 Datagrid object 8-)
 
 
 You can download the tutorial stack here:
 http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/index.php?option=com_phocadownloadview=categoryid=6:datagrid-step-by-stepItemid=63
 
 A small preview of the stack is available here:
 http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc/images/stories/Preview/sbs_datagrid_preview.png
 
 
 Regards,
 -- 
 -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8)
 http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc
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Re: [ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread David C.
 The Window is Closing

 This leaves open a window of opportunity for those of you reading this post 
 who have not adopted Rodeo. You can obtain a license for $89 USD, but only 
 for a couple more weeks.

 The price of Rodeo will rise as its capabilities increase--and this will 
 happen quicker than you may think. Rodeo Transfer will not be included in the 
 release version of Rodeo, but become a separate, premium product with a real 
 price tag.

 But pre-release buyers will get the whole kit and caboodle for $89 USD. As we 
 say in Tejas: It's time to saddle up, partner.

 Best,

 Jerry Daniels

That sounds pretty awesome, especially since I spent a large portion
of the weekend trying to find a decent development path for
HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript based iPad applications. Transfer sounds like
just the ticket!

So, Jerry. when do you think the doors will open up to those of us
who choose not to own Mac hardware?
We have access to Chrome and Safari and I do see that it's possible to
work without the Mac IDE for Rodeo. Some enlightenment in that area
would be appreciated.

Best regards,
David C.
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Android App Development

2010-07-12 Thread Michael Kann
I don't have a dog in this hunt, but there might be some of you interested in 
this article:

-- watch for line break --

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/googles-master-android-plan-were-all-mobile-app-developers-now/36592

Mike


  
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Re: Timer Pause script

2010-07-12 Thread DunbarX
I made a stopwatch a while ago. Make a button and name it start. Make 
another button and name it reset. Make a field and name it timer.

In the script of button start:

on mouseDown
lock screen
if the label of me = start then 
   set the label of me to stop
   set the startingTime of me to the milliseconds
   replace . with empty in fld timer   --temp
   set the oldTime of me to fld timer
   send countUp to me in 1 millisecond
else
   set the label of me to start
end if
end mouseDown

on countUp
put (the milliseconds - the startingTime of me) + the oldTime of me 
into   temp
put . before char   the number of chars of temp -2 of temp
if the length   of temp = 4 then put 0  temp into fld timer else 
put temp into fld timer

if the label of btn start = stop then send countUp to me in 1 
millisecond
end countUp

In the script of button reset:

on mouseUp
cancel item 1 of the last line of the pendingmessages
set the label of btn start to start
put 0 into fld timer
end mouseUp
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Re: [ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
David,

In order to keep the pace up, we've had to focus on one platform for the 
desktop client/editor--the Mac. Our original target for products created by 
Rodeo was the iPad.

However...

We're discovering that we are really a webkit product...this desktop thing that 
forces people to choose between Mac, Windows and Linux just might be an 
illusion.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Join the Rodeo discussion:
http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves

On Jul 12, 2010, at 7:47 AM, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Window is Closing
 
 This leaves open a window of opportunity for those of you reading this post 
 who have not adopted Rodeo. You can obtain a license for $89 USD, but only 
 for a couple more weeks.
 
 The price of Rodeo will rise as its capabilities increase--and this will 
 happen quicker than you may think. Rodeo Transfer will not be included in 
 the release version of Rodeo, but become a separate, premium product with a 
 real price tag.
 
 But pre-release buyers will get the whole kit and caboodle for $89 USD. As 
 we say in Tejas: It's time to saddle up, partner.
 
 Best,
 
 Jerry Daniels
 
 That sounds pretty awesome, especially since I spent a large portion
 of the weekend trying to find a decent development path for
 HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript based iPad applications. Transfer sounds like
 just the ticket!
 
 So, Jerry. when do you think the doors will open up to those of us
 who choose not to own Mac hardware?
 We have access to Chrome and Safari and I do see that it's possible to
 work without the Mac IDE for Rodeo. Some enlightenment in that area
 would be appreciated.
 
 Best regards,
 David C.
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Re: [ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread David C.
 However...

 We're discovering that we are really a webkit product...

From the outside looking in, I tend to agree...
...and that's pretty much what prompted my question. ;)

Best regards,
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread James Hurley


Message: 29
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 23:38:02 -0500
From: Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com
Subject: [ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps
To: How to Use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
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Fellow Rev developers,

If you're like me, you have lots of stacks you've built over the  
years. Maybe you've wondered how they'd translate into standard web  
elements that could run on an iPad or desktop Chrome browser. We now  
have a tool for Revolution developers that will do this.


Rodeo Transfer lets you translate and transfer Rev UI elements to  
the web so that they're viewable on any webkit-compliant browser  
like Safari or Chrome. Transfer is fast and slick.


All those who are part of the Rodeo pre-release program will get  
Rodeo Transfer as part of their license. Any one else can download  
it from our site and watch it translate Rev objects. You do need a  
Rodeo account to see the translated objects on the web, however.


What can it transfer?

With today's release of Rodeo v1.3, Transfer can translate stacks,  
cards, buttons, fields, option menus, check boxes, radio buttons,  
images, and best of all, data grids--into good looking standard web  
elements. Graphic objects are next.


(Snip)

Thanks Jerry and Sarah. This  looks very interesting.

It would be helpful to me if you would contrast and compare Rodeo's  
web apps with Revolutions  current revlets. What are its limitations  
and advantages vis-a-vis Rev?


My questions are VERY basic. Does Rodeo require a plug-in? Does it  
translate Rev Talk into HTML or some variant thereof? (If this is a  
viable option, why didn't RunRev go that route?) When you speak of  
tables, are these Data Grids and/or the plain vanilla table fields--or  
both?


I'm sure that whatever you and Sarah are cooking up for us will be  
exciting.


Best regards,

Jim Hurley


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Modal Issue

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe

Hey all,

I am having an issue with modal stacks that I just cannot pin down.

I have a PaymentDetails Modal that comes up and has a calendar modal stack
on it to select the payment date.

The problem that I am having is that most of the time the calendar will be
visible above the first modal, but the interaction is locked into the first
modal. I cannot interact with the calendar and I have to toplevel the
payment stack to close the calendar.  This same behavior occurs when i
answer Payment details updated!, I can't click ok unless I TopLevel the
payment stack even though the answer dialog is visible on top of the payment
modal.

What kind of things should I be looking at to track down the culprit? What
could cause this?


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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe

All of this and more @ http://rodeoapps.com/what-is-rodeo
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Re: Language learning stacks

2010-07-12 Thread Curt Ford
I have a project (commercial, except for my own students) that focuses  
on vocabulary and provides a number of different activities  
(flashcards, multiple choice, scrambled words, dictation, and others).  
There's also support for images, multiple sounds per item, short video  
clips, examples  notes, and integrated google search.


It's been used with a number of languages including Russian, Japanese,  
and Irish (though languages with right-to-left writing systems haven't  
been tested much). My web site has a pretty extensive set of word  
lists for Russian and a sample for Irish phrases, and there's a  
built-in list creator for making your own lists.


You can find more information  a demo version at

http://www.sonasoftware.com/vocab/

--feel free to try it out  let me know what you think!

Curt


Dr. Curtis Ford
Sona Software LLC


Curt Ford
Sona Software LLC

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Re: Modal Issue

2010-07-12 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Andrew,

That's how modal dialogs work. You will have to find a different way  
to do this. For example a modal dialog stack that shows itself until  
either 10 seconds have passed or the user clicks on a Buy button. Once  
the user clicks on Buy, you can close the modal dialog and show a  
different window together with the calendar.


It is also possible to show a modal dialog on top of another modal  
dialog. If you add a Calendar button to your payment stack to open the  
calendar as a modal dialog, you could allow the user to select a date  
and show the date in the Payment stack after the Calendar stack closes.


--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce

On 12 jul 2010, at 17:07, Andrew Kluthe wrote:



Hey all,

I am having an issue with modal stacks that I just cannot pin down.

I have a PaymentDetails Modal that comes up and has a calendar modal  
stack

on it to select the payment date.

The problem that I am having is that most of the time the calendar  
will be
visible above the first modal, but the interaction is locked into  
the first

modal. I cannot interact with the calendar and I have to toplevel the
payment stack to close the calendar.  This same behavior occurs when i
answer Payment details updated!, I can't click ok unless I  
TopLevel the
payment stack even though the answer dialog is visible on top of the  
payment

modal.

What kind of things should I be looking at to track down the  
culprit? What

could cause this?



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Re: DataGrid Stuff

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Simple. You never created columns named State and Code. A default data grid has 
no columns yet. In the properties dialog of the DataGrid object, popup the menu 
and select the 3rd option down, called columns. Add 2 columns, name the first 
one State, and the second one Code. 

Note, that if you left firstLineContainsColumnNames set to false, (the default 
behavior) then you could have named your columns anything you wanted, and 
excluded the column names from the first line of your data, it would have 
worked too. 

Bob

 
On Jul 10, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Roger Guay wrote:

 on mouseUp
## Create tab delimited data.
## Note that first line has name of columns.
## Providing names tells Data Grid how to map
## data to appropriate columns. 
put state  tab  code  cr  \
 ALABAMA  tab  AL  cr  \
 ALASKA  tab  AK into theText
 
## Let Data Grid know that first line has column names
put true into firstLineContainsColumnNames
set the dgText [ firstLineContainsColumnNames ] of group DataGrid 1 to 
 theText
 end mouseUp

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Re: DataGrid Stuff

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Not strictly true. His script worked fine if I named the columns State and 
Code respectively. 

Bob


On Jul 10, 2010, at 10:08 AM, zryip theSlug wrote:

 If you use set the dgText [ firstLineContainsColumnNames ] of group
 DataGrid 1 to theText, you will obtain in the Grid:
 
 State Code
 state  code
 ALABAMA  AL
 ALASKA AK
 
 If you use set the dgText of group DataGrid 1 to theText, the Grid will
 contain:
 
 State Code
 ALABAMA  AL
 ALASKA AK

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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
Hey, Jim!

Rodeo development and deployment requires no plugin of any sort now or in the 
future.

Rodeo Transfer at the moment translates Rev UI objects into HTML/CSS. Rodeo web 
apps are HTML/CSS/Javascript.

Rodeo tables are not plain text fields. The look and behave very much like Rev 
datagrids. They are single elements, however, not a group of elements. They are 
HTML tables. 

A Rodeo table is also linked to a data source which can be an index to records. 
The industrial use of a Rodeo table is to show a record when you click on a 
line in the table. Data linking, etc, in Rodeo is very implicit for the 
developer. We've just begin the data-linking part of this process.

Hope that helps. Lots of info on our site.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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On Jul 12, 2010, at 10:05 AM, James Hurley wrote:

 (Snip)
 
 Thanks Jerry and Sarah. This  looks very interesting.
 
 It would be helpful to me if you would contrast and compare Rodeo's web apps 
 with Revolutions  current revlets. What are its limitations and advantages 
 vis-a-vis Rev?
 
 My questions are VERY basic. Does Rodeo require a plug-in? Does it translate 
 Rev Talk into HTML or some variant thereof? (If this is a viable option, why 
 didn't RunRev go that route?) When you speak of tables, are these Data Grids 
 and/or the plain vanilla table fields--or both?
 
 I'm sure that whatever you and Sarah are cooking up for us will be exciting.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Jim Hurley
 
 
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Re: Scripting what should be a simple loop...

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
In this particular case you are correct. And I also agree that naming fields 
(or variables or any objects) using a reserved word is a bad idea. 

Bob


On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

 HI BOB,
 
 It doesn't matter, because David writes he got only 10 fields in that group. 
 Besides, it is really a bad idea to call a field field 1.
 
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Re: Scripting what should be a simple loop...

2010-07-12 Thread Richmond

On 07/12/2010 06:53 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

In this particular case you are correct. And I also agree that naming fields 
(or variables or any objects) using a reserved word is a bad idea.

   
And this is where I jump right back in and state that a naming 
convention avoids the temptation to
use reserved words but allows one to clearly identify to which class 
objects belong.


For instance:

fldONE
fldTWO
fldTHREE
fldFOUR

are obviously fields . . .  :)
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RE: Language learning stacks

2010-07-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 I recall a linguistics professor years ago telling the story 
 of the supercomputer translator going from English to Russian 
 and back again.  The spirit is willing but the flesh is 
 weak came back as The vodka is good but the meat is rotten.  :)

That's probably a saying in Russia already :-)

 No, it's not reliable in any absolute sense, but it is very 
 useful once you have an adequate knowledge base in the 
 languages you are translating to and from.  For single words 
 it is quick and lists synonyms/approximate equivalents in 
 various forms.  For short phrases it gets you in the ballpark 
 with verb forms and tenses.  But to lean on it 
 unquestioningly would be linguistic suicide, you're right.  
 Still, it's an invaluable tool for my current needs.

It can be very, very useful. I used it myself when I need a quick and dirty
translation of some text, but as you say, for single words or getting the
gist of something is where it shines. I wouldn't want someone to learn how
to conjugate from it though.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software
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Re: Scripting what should be a simple loop...

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Just one gotcha with the repeat for each construct. Do NOT under any 
circumstances change the contents of the source variable inside the repeat 
loop. For instance:

repeat for each line tLine in myListOfLines

Do NOT change the contents of myListOfLines inside your repeat loop. It was 
explained to me some time ago that Revolution accesses the memory of this 
variable directly and parses it somehow, hence the speed at which it works, 
so changing it will almost certainly return very unexpected results. 

Bob


On Jul 10, 2010, at 4:16 AM, David C. wrote:

 To which Mark S. added:
 David and Mark,
 
 Yet, repeat for each rules. Whether using arrays is faster than using regular
 variables depends on whether your repeat loop is written smartly.
 
 Thanks guys. Since I basically just finished rebuilding most of the
 app, I'll keep that info in mind for my future projects and/or perhaps
 yet another revision for this one at some point.

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Re: Language learning stacks

2010-07-12 Thread Richmond

On 07/12/2010 07:04 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:

I recall a linguistics professor years ago telling the story
of the supercomputer translator going from English to Russian
and back again.  The spirit is willing but the flesh is
weak came back as The vodka is good but the meat is rotten.  :)
 

That's probably a saying in Russia already :-)

   

No, it's not reliable in any absolute sense, but it is very
useful once you have an adequate knowledge base in the
languages you are translating to and from.  For single words
it is quick and lists synonyms/approximate equivalents in
various forms.  For short phrases it gets you in the ballpark
with verb forms and tenses.  But to lean on it
unquestioningly would be linguistic suicide, you're right.
Still, it's an invaluable tool for my current needs.
 

It can be very, very useful. I used it myself when I need a quick and dirty
translation of some text, but as you say, for single words or getting the
gist of something is where it shines. I wouldn't want someone to learn how
to conjugate from it though.

   


I bet trying to translate conjugate that way could prove most 
enlightening.

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Re: Scripting what should be a simple loop...

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
By some odd coincidence those are the names of the first 4 buttons in my new 
project!

Bob


On Jul 12, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Richmond wrote:

 On 07/12/2010 06:53 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 In this particular case you are correct. And I also agree that naming fields 
 (or variables or any objects) using a reserved word is a bad idea.
 
   
 And this is where I jump right back in and state that a naming convention 
 avoids the temptation to
 use reserved words but allows one to clearly identify to which class objects 
 belong.
 
 For instance:
 
 fldONE
 fldTWO
 fldTHREE
 fldFOUR
 
 are obviously fields . . .  :)
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Re: Modal Issue

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe

Mark, 

Sorry for the confusion. 

It is also possible to show a modal dialog on top of another modal   
dialog. If you add a Calendar button to your payment stack to open the   
calendar as a modal dialog, you could allow the user to select a date   
and show the date in the Payment stack after the Calendar stack closes. 

This is what I do and it works fine everywhere else, but something is
causing the behavior I described and I am trying to pin it down.

Payment Stack is a modal, Calendar stack is a modal on top of the payment
stack.

Answer Dialogs appear on top of the payment stack modal, but I cannot click
OK until I TopLevel the payment stack. Its almost as if the Payment Stack
steals the focus and I have to TopLevel the payment stack to close the modal
that was opened from the payment stack.

This same behavior occurs with the calendar and any other modal i launch off
of this Payment Stack modal.

Throughout the rest of my app, this process works correctly. I am trying to
get some ideas of what to look for to fix it on the payment stack.


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RE: Language learning stacks

2010-07-12 Thread Lynn Fredricks
  It can be very, very useful. I used it myself when I need a 
 quick and 
  dirty translation of some text, but as you say, for single words or 
  getting the gist of something is where it shines. I wouldn't want 
  someone to learn how to conjugate from it though.
 
 
 
 I bet trying to translate conjugate that way could prove 
 most enlightening.

You never conjugated with your language teacher during a private lesson? ;-)

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

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Re: Modal Issue

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe

In trying to explain the problem, I found a fix for it.

I am not sure what it is EXACTLY that caused it. 

But in the payment amount field, I round the data off to two decimals and
validate it on closeField.

The problem was occurring only when the cursor was in this field (closeField
hadn't sent yet).

My guess is that opening the modal caused closeField to be sent after the
modal's launch? This might set the focus back onto the payment stack?

Does this sound about right? would it help to lock messages around the
launch of the modal?

For now my fix is just to send closeField to this field before calling any
modal up.
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread David Bovill
How about a little something to say how Rodeo is different in terms of
features or aims and objectives from let's say
PhoneGaphttp://www.phonegap.com/or for that matter
TileStack http://tilestack.com/ ?

On 12 July 2010 16:53, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:

 Hey, Jim!

 Rodeo development and deployment requires no plugin of any sort now or in
 the future.

 Rodeo Transfer at the moment translates Rev UI objects into HTML/CSS. Rodeo
 web apps are HTML/CSS/Javascript.

 Rodeo tables are not plain text fields. The look and behave very much like
 Rev datagrids. They are single elements, however, not a group of elements.
 They are HTML tables.

 A Rodeo table is also linked to a data source which can be an index to
 records. The industrial use of a Rodeo table is to show a record when you
 click on a line in the table. Data linking, etc, in Rodeo is very implicit
 for the developer. We've just begin the data-linking part of this process.

 Hope that helps. Lots of info on our site.

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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe

Wow, Jerry. Moving quite quickly on this project! Now that the available
ojbect set is quite large I am going to have to follow through on my rodeo
purchase. 

After reading about the table objects, I assume that databases will be
supported? mySQL?
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
David,

I'm not really any kind of expert of the products you mention here. I've 
written and recorded plenty on our objectives and aims, though. It's all on our 
site.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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http://rodeoapps.com/limited-pre-release-offer

On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:24 AM, David Bovill wrote:

 How about a little something to say how Rodeo is different in terms of
 features or aims and objectives from let's say
 PhoneGaphttp://www.phonegap.com/or for that matter
 TileStack http://tilestack.com/ ?
 
 On 12 July 2010 16:53, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey, Jim!
 
 Rodeo development and deployment requires no plugin of any sort now or in
 the future.
 
 Rodeo Transfer at the moment translates Rev UI objects into HTML/CSS. Rodeo
 web apps are HTML/CSS/Javascript.
 
 Rodeo tables are not plain text fields. The look and behave very much like
 Rev datagrids. They are single elements, however, not a group of elements.
 They are HTML tables.
 
 A Rodeo table is also linked to a data source which can be an index to
 records. The industrial use of a Rodeo table is to show a record when you
 click on a line in the table. Data linking, etc, in Rodeo is very implicit
 for the developer. We've just begin the data-linking part of this process.
 
 Hope that helps. Lots of info on our site.
 
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
Andrew,

It would be lovely to have you on board. Then you could come to our second 
developers' summit on Saturday. That's July 17 @ 3PM CDT. Our last summit was 
quite the event.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

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On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote:

 
 Wow, Jerry. Moving quite quickly on this project! Now that the available
 ojbect set is quite large I am going to have to follow through on my rodeo
 purchase. 
 
 After reading about the table objects, I assume that databases will be
 supported? mySQL?
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Re: Modal Issue

2010-07-12 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Andrew,

Yes, you are right, any script that runs and sets a focus after a  
modal stack opens can cause problems. I have had this too with answer  
dialogs. I hope that RunRev will provide a fix for this problem some  
day.


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On 12 jul 2010, at 18:20, Andrew Kluthe wrote:



In trying to explain the problem, I found a fix for it.

I am not sure what it is EXACTLY that caused it.

But in the payment amount field, I round the data off to two  
decimals and

validate it on closeField.

The problem was occurring only when the cursor was in this field  
(closeField

hadn't sent yet).

My guess is that opening the modal caused closeField to be sent  
after the

modal's launch? This might set the focus back onto the payment stack?

Does this sound about right? would it help to lock messages around the
launch of the modal?

For now my fix is just to send closeField to this field before  
calling any

modal up.


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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Jacque. 

I wonder if the ls command lists folders with a trailing slash, while documents 
and apps do not have a trailing slash?

Bob


On Jul 11, 2010, at 8:02 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 Andre Garzia wrote:
 Jacque,
 For your mac os x programming pleasure:
 
 Thanks. After staring at the problem all afternoon, I think I garbled my 
 request due to Fuzzy Brain Syndrome. What I need is a list of both regular 
 files and files that happen to be bundles, but does not include apps, system 
 things, or user folders. In other words, a list of any file the user can 
 double-click that would launch an app.
 
 I can filter out apps by checking their extension. Now I need to figure out 
 how to remove user folders without removing bundles that are actually user 
 files, like the ones iApps make.
 
 I got this far:
 
 function getFiles -- assume directory is already set
  put shell(ls -AF) into tFiles -- the A skips dot files
  filter tFiles without .* -- but it doesn't strip .DS_Store :(
  filter tFiles without *.app* -- remove apps
  repeat for each line l in tFiles
if last char of l  slash then -- normal file
  put l  cr after tList
else -- bundle or folder; remove user folders, keep files
  put l  Contents/PkgInfo into tTestFile
  if there is a file tTestFile then -- iApp file
put char 1 to -2 of l  cr after tList
  else if VOODOO -- MAGIC FILE TEST
 -- MIRACULOUS IDENTIFICATION, ADD TO LIST
  end if
end if
  end repeat
  return tList
 end getFiles
 
 Checking for the pkgInfo file also eliminates plugins and .bundle files, at 
 least the ones I looked at. Not sure where to go from here, I need to catch 
 .rtfd files and similar. The .rtfd folders just contain a bunch of regular 
 files (and no Content folder,) which makes those bundles indistinguishable 
 from a user folder if you're just looking at file paths.
 
 I just discovered the ls -F shell command, which is handy because it gives 
 a list of everything, with folders marked by a trailing slash. That way you 
 don't have to get the files and the folders separately and then combine them.
 
 I'll look at the link you and Mike Bonner mentioned, it does sound like I 
 need to look at some file flags. But if anyone's done this already I'd love 
 to freeload.
 
 -- 
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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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[ANN] revIgniter v1.3.6b released

2010-07-12 Thread Ralf Bitter

Added cache busting capabilities to the Asset Helper.

For modified static files with a far future expire header
there is now a mechanism for automatically updating user's cache.

Info and download at: http://revigniter.com/


Ralf
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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I do not have a getFileInfo command??

Bob


On Jul 11, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Mike Bonner wrote:

 Based on information in the link below, I believe you can do
 getFileInfo -aB directoryname

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RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread Richmond
Having found that it is well-nigh impossible to copy-paste from the 
RunRev 4 script editor

in Linux (GNOME), I thought I would crack out the old script editor:

1. RunRev 2.2.1: no joy.

2. Metacard 2.5: no joy.

What does this tell us?

Well the most obvious thing is that something as fundamental as copy-paste
has not been sorted out since the days of Metacard is a pretty awful 
inditement of . . . .




What is clear is that various users of RunRev on Linux have worked
out various fiddles to get round the shortcomings related to fonts,
copy-pasting and so on . . .

However, if every software compnay relied on end-users being prepared to
work out fiddles to get their software to behave the way it should . . . .


Now, THAT is a grumble!
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread David Bovill
OK - I was not thinking of anything detailed, but in principle I would think
that a good number of people on this list researching how to get into web
app development and leverage their Revolution experience would research
these two alternatives, both have been covered in discussions on this list.

In simple terms PhoneGap is an open source JavaScript framework which allows
you to create mobile phone app's using your basic (ish) knowledge of
standard web technologies. In particular you are able to create iPhone
applicationshttp://phonegap.pbworks.com/Getting-Started-with-PhoneGap-%28iPhone%29by
using standard html markup calling the PhoneGap JavaScript library and
compiling these suing Xcode. The resulting mobile apps are designed to run
on iPhone / Android / Palm / Blackberry / Windows Mobile and Symbian
platforms. As it is open source there is no charge for the code, but for
iPhone development you would need to pay your $99 blood money to Apple. I've
not used it myself, but am looking at interfacing it with Revolution, by
creating a set of open source libraries that would translate between
Revolution widgets and PhoneGap code / widgets. In many ways this is similar
to the aims of Rodeo. I think it would be particularly strong if Rodeo used
or interfaced with the open source PhoneGap framework, as this may make the
eventual aims of supporting an iPhone app store submission service easier to
implement?

In contrast TileStack http://tilestack.com/ is not so interesting I think
- it looks like a more or less complete clone of HyperCard written in
JavaScript - like Rodeo it is a hosted service, and like Rodeo i don't think
the JavaScript is an open source framework - it is not specifically designed
for mobile or webkit / HTML5 - so that is another difference.

If anyone has more detailed experience of either of these products I'd be
interested in their experience. I know that early versions of PhoneGap were
pretty limited - but it has been around for a while now.


On 12 July 2010 17:27, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:

 David,

 I'm not really any kind of expert of the products you mention here. I've
 written and recorded plenty on our objectives and aims, though. It's all on
 our site.


I've decided to take the plunge and take up the early bird offer - looks
like a great way to leverage your Revolution knowledge and get into the
world of HTML5 and JavaScript - looking forwards to the next conference on
the 17th!
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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread Richmond

On 07/12/2010 07:57 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

I do not have a getFileInfo command??

   


Nor do I! I found

get
getProp
getResource
getResources

and nothing else.

Now I had to turn the Mac on for that as the Dictionary in RunRev for
Linux takes about 15 times longer than that on the Mac to get those
results.
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jim Lambert
I'm amazed how quickly Rodeo is evolving.

Andrew K. wrote:
  Now that the available object set is quite large I am going to have to 
 follow through on my rodeo purchase. 

Jump on it!
It's good for all of us to encourage this kind of development.

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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 12/07/2010 04:02, J. Landman Gay wrote:
...

put l  Contents/PkgInfo into tTestFile
if there is a file tTestFile then -- iApp file
  put char 1 to -2 of l  cr after tList
else if VOODOO -- MAGIC FILE TEST
-- MIRACULOUS IDENTIFICATION, ADD TO LIST
end if

...

Checking for the pkgInfo file also eliminates plugins and .bundle files,
at least the ones I looked at. Not sure where to go from here, I need to
catch .rtfd files and similar. The .rtfd folders just contain a bunch of
regular files (and no Content folder,) which makes those bundles
indistinguishable from a user folder if you're just looking at file paths.


FWIW, the otherwise very wonderful OmniOutliner now stores all documents as 
packages (not AFAIK bundles), with extension '.oo3'.  These typically contain 
just a single file content.xml, although can in principle contain other 
files such as images and audio clips.  (It drives me crazy, exactly because 
other apps don't know how to deal with these as a document.)  So there's at 
least one more example of a package that doesn't contain a plist or a pkginfo. 
 If nothing else you could .oo3 to your list of package extensions.


Evidently the 'clean' solution would involve interrogating the Finder's 
database of extensions-which-are-packages that it sets by scanning app plists. 
 Unfortunately I've no idea how you do that...


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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Bob Sneidar wrote:


I wonder if the ls command lists folders with a trailing slash, while
documents and apps do not have a trailing slash?


Apps also have a trailing slash, that's why I filter those out.

 I do not have a getFileInfo command??

I didn't either until I found it in the Developer Tools. Then it did 
work to tell me if the folder had a bundle bit set, but this isn't a 
viable solution because the customers who will use the product will 
almost certainly not have Developer Tools installed. It can't be used 
for scripts aimed at a commercial market.


I found a semi-reliable solution using AppleScript. It works most of the 
time, though still doesn't cover everything, but gets almost all of it. 
I'll post it in a followup message.


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Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Richmond wrote:
Having found that it is well-nigh impossible to copy-paste from the 
RunRev 4 script editor

in Linux (GNOME), I thought I would crack out the old script editor:

1. RunRev 2.2.1: no joy.

2. Metacard 2.5: no joy.

What does this tell us?


It tells us that for some clipboard managers, you need to try the 
solution Pierre mentioned. The choice of software components that makes 
Linux so appealing to its users is also the reason that Rev doesn't work 
with everything. If you're using one of the more universally popular 
managers then bug-report it.


I know that when MetaCard was in active development, the script editor 
in Linux worked fine because Dr Raney did all his development on that 
platform. So what's happened in between is that the clipboard manager 
has changed, or you are using one he wasn't using.


BTW, you can save yourself some trouble next time if you just do 
something like this from the message box:


 put the script of btn 1 into url (file:myScript.txt)

I know you shouldn't have to, but it will save you some time.

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Re: File lists - sort of a solution

2010-07-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
I've found a semi-reliable solution to the OS X file list issue by using 
an AppleScript. There are some complicated shell tricks I could have 
done, but they require far more work than the AppleScript, so this is 
what I'm doing now:


function getFiles -- assume directory is set
  put shell(ls -AF) into tFiles
  filter tFiles without .* -- the A flag doesn't strip .DS_Store :(
  filter tFiles without *.app/ -- remove apps
  filter tFiles without Icon  numToChar(13) -- user folder icons
  repeat for each line l in tFiles
if last char of l  slash then -- regular file
  put l into tFile -- to check for shell symbol markers
  if last char of tFile is in *...@=%|
  then delete last char of tFile
  if there is a file tFile then -- in case removing markers changed 
the name

put tFile  cr after tList
  end if
else -- bundle or folder; remove user folders
  if isPackage(l) then
put char 1 to -2 of l  cr after tList
  end if
end if
  end repeat
  return tList
end getFiles

function isPackage tPath
  put tell application quote System Events quote \
  to get package folder of alias POSIX file quote \
  tPath quote into tScript
  do tScript as applescript
  return the result
end isPackage

It still needs some refinement but it works most of the time. It does 
not catch old Rosetta apps that aren't bundles, so those get put into 
the list. It does not catch Icon files that aren't followed by a 
carriage return. It probably doesn't catch other stuff either, but it 
gets the main things.


I've opened a QCC enchancement request asking for a better way to get 
package-based files on OS X:

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8853

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Re: File lists - sort of a solution

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Duly voted on.

Bob


On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:04 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 It still needs some refinement but it works most of the time. It does not 
 catch old Rosetta apps that aren't bundles, so those get put into the list. 
 It does not catch Icon files that aren't followed by a carriage return. It 
 probably doesn't catch other stuff either, but it gets the main things.
 
 I've opened a QCC enchancement request asking for a better way to get 
 package-based files on OS X:
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8853
 
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Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread Richmond

On 07/12/2010 08:54 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Richmond wrote:
Having found that it is well-nigh impossible to copy-paste from the 
RunRev 4 script editor

in Linux (GNOME), I thought I would crack out the old script editor:

1. RunRev 2.2.1: no joy.

2. Metacard 2.5: no joy.

What does this tell us?


It tells us that for some clipboard managers, you need to try the 
solution Pierre mentioned. The choice of software components that 
makes Linux so appealing to its users is also the reason that Rev 
doesn't work with everything. If you're using one of the more 
universally popular managers then bug-report it.


I know that when MetaCard was in active development, the script editor 
in Linux worked fine because Dr Raney did all his development on that 
platform. So what's happened in between is that the clipboard manager 
has changed, or you are using one he wasn't using.


BTW, you can save yourself some trouble next time if you just do 
something like this from the message box:


 put the script of btn 1 into url (file:myScript.txt)

I know you shouldn't have to, but it will save you some time.



Thanks; Yes it will . . .  :)

Although I do wonder why most Linux apps seem not to jalouse at any of the
clipboard managers that come as standard with GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXCD and
so: just been through about 5 Window managers trying a 'cocktail' of Linux
apps. While RunRev jalouses at all of them without 'fiddling'.
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Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond-

Monday, July 12, 2010, 11:14:40 AM, you wrote:

 apps. While RunRev jalouses at all of them without 'fiddling'.

You might also try deleting your preferences file. There's a
long-standing bug where the copy-key-equivalent stops working, and
apparently it has something to do with the IDE's preferences.

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Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread Richmond

On 07/12/2010 09:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Richmond-

Monday, July 12, 2010, 11:14:40 AM, you wrote:

   

apps. While RunRev jalouses at all of them without 'fiddling'.
 

You might also try deleting your preferences file. There's a
long-standing bug where the copy-key-equivalent stops working, and
apparently it has something to do with the IDE's preferences.

   


Just for fun, the preferences for RunRev are stored inside
an invisible folder inside your home folder:

/.runrev/revolution/studio/preferences

and it does not fix the copy-paste problem; just mucks up your 
preferences . . .  :)

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NativeGeometry 2.0.1 - The Geometry Manager replacement for Revolution

2010-07-12 Thread Damien Girard

Hi,

I have updated NativeGeometry to version 2.0.1, this versions greatly
improve the user experience, if you tried NativeGeometry 2.0 before, try
this one you will see the improvement!

Also, after user feedbacks, I have made more visible the NativeGeometry API,
because NativeGeometry is before anything a library, in the help center now
you can directly access to the API documentation. (Generated with NativeDoc
1.6 that will be released shortly too ;) )

In addition, a new property appear: set/get the nGeometry. This property
enable you to set the geometry of an object simply.

In NativeGeometry 2.0, you had to write:
put set the left of me to the leftpadding of this stack;set the rRight of
me to the left of button id 1014 of this stack into tArray[relations]
set the NativeGeometry of button myButton to tArray

Now, with 2.0.1:
set the nGeometry of button myButton to set the left of me to the
leftpadding of this stack;set the rRight of me to the left of button id 1014
of this stack

So, dynamically you can faster update geometry relation, NativeGeometry will
take care of discovering dependencies and compiling the geometry relation.


If you have feedback about this version, questions or anything else, do not
hesitate to write me at supp...@nativesoft.fr.

WARNING: NativeGeometry IDE does not works on Linux, there is a strange
problem with the long id of the target... The engine is running fine, but
I was not able to make the IDE working right. Will investigate.

Kind Regards,

Damien Girard
NativeSoft, France.
http://www.nativesoft.fr



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Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread Richmond

Now things begin to look distinctly odd as:

I installed glipper to keep track of clipboard stuff.

I am unable to select anything in the script editor  (RunRev 4.0 GNOME),

I am able to select with RunRev 2.2.1,

I am able to paste from RR 2.2.1. into AbiWord, gEdit, Open Office and 
MousePad


How much of this is owing to the presence of glipper I just don't know.

What does become clear with this 'little adventure' is that the problem
seems largely to lie with the 'new' script editor.


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Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Richmond,

you are not able to copy  paste in the editor, but can you copy and paste
from fields?

andre

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 Now things begin to look distinctly odd as:

 I installed glipper to keep track of clipboard stuff.

 I am unable to select anything in the script editor  (RunRev 4.0 GNOME),

 I am able to select with RunRev 2.2.1,

 I am able to paste from RR 2.2.1. into AbiWord, gEdit, Open Office and
 MousePad

 How much of this is owing to the presence of glipper I just don't know.

 What does become clear with this 'little adventure' is that the problem
 seems largely to lie with the 'new' script editor.



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Re: DataGrid Stuff

2010-07-12 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/7/12 Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com:
 Not strictly true. His script worked fine if I named the columns State and 
 Code respectively.

Or maybe not strictly true because I inverted the two sample preview
of what you will obtain in each case.
I pointed out here the two results obtain if you use or not the
firstLineContainsColumnNames parameter. And definitively not pointed
out that the script doesn't work.

So to correct things we have to read:

If firstLineContainsColumnNames is false, the grid will show this:

State Code --- Header of the Datagrid
state  code --- First line of data
ALABAMA  AL   --- Second line of data
ALASKA AK  --- Last line of data


If firstLineContainsColumnNames is true, the Grid will contain:

State Code  --- Header of the Datagrid
ALABAMA  AL--- First line of data
ALASKA AK   --- Last line of data


Finally, the better way is to create the two columns by code during
the importation of the data:

   if (firstLineContainsColumnNames) then
  if (the dgProp[columns] of group DataGrid 1 is empty) then
 put first line of theText into tHeaderLine
 replace tab with return in tHeaderLine
 set the dgProp[columns] of group DataGrid 1 to tHeaderLine
  end if
   end if

  set the dgText[firstLineContainsColumnNames] of group MyDataGrid to theText


Thanks Bob. I hope that you will found this answer strictly better
than the previous ;)



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Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread G. Wolfgang Gaich

Richmond,

on my Linux machine (Ubuntu 10.04, Gnome) copy from the revolution 
editor (ctrl-c and context menu copy) works for me. But then to paste 
e.g. to gedit only works with the keyboard (crtl-v) but not with context 
menu or edit menu.


Best Regards
Wolfgang




Am 12.07.2010 20:29, schrieb Richmond:

On 07/12/2010 09:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Richmond-

Monday, July 12, 2010, 11:14:40 AM, you wrote:


apps. While RunRev jalouses at all of them without 'fiddling'.

You might also try deleting your preferences file. There's a
long-standing bug where the copy-key-equivalent stops working, and
apparently it has something to do with the IDE's preferences.



Just for fun, the preferences for RunRev are stored inside
an invisible folder inside your home folder:

/.runrev/revolution/studio/preferences

and it does not fix the copy-paste problem; just mucks up your 
preferences . . .  :)

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Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread Roger . E . Eller
 Richmond,

 on my Linux machine (Ubuntu 10.04, Gnome) copy from the revolution
 editor (ctrl-c and context menu copy) works for me. But then to paste
 e.g. to gedit only works with the keyboard (crtl-v) but not with context
 menu or edit menu.

 Best Regards
 Wolfgang

I can confirm the same on my Ubuntu system. Also, I can paste any selected
text from Terminal, gEdit, or firefox by simply middle-clicking. You don't
even have to copy it first.  Just select and middle-click elsewhere.  That
is an old *nix trick that still works in Ubuntu.

~Roger Eller

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Re: Timer Pause script

2010-07-12 Thread JosepM

Thanks! Now I see how... :P  

Salut,
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe

Alright, I jumped on the rodeo bandwagon. 

Now I just have to get a MacVM (s!) going tonight to develop with as I
can't afford mac hardware.

I do not own an iphone or an ipad (yet), so my hopes are to develop apps for
Chrome and Safari. Is the experience on just a browser 1:1 with the features
you can leverage on the handheld devices?
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
Hey, Andrew!

The Rodeo stuff looks good on webkit browsers for desktops, too. Safari and 
Chrome are great.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Follow the Rodeo discussion:
http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves



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 Alright, I jumped on the rodeo bandwagon. 
 
 Now I just have to get a MacVM (s!) going tonight to develop with as I
 can't afford mac hardware.
 
 I do not own an iphone or an ipad (yet), so my hopes are to develop apps for
 Chrome and Safari. Is the experience on just a browser 1:1 with the features
 you can leverage on the handheld devices?
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Re: RunRev Script Editor and Linux

2010-07-12 Thread Richard Gaskin

Richmond wrote:


Having found that it is well-nigh impossible to copy-paste from the
RunRev 4 script editor
in Linux (GNOME), I thought I would crack out the old script editor:

1. RunRev 2.2.1: no joy.

2. Metacard 2.5: no joy.

What does this tell us?


It tells us that this needs further testing, because I just went into 
Ubuntu 10.04 with Rev 4.0 and MC 4.0 and was able to copy and paste 
scripts within each script editor, between them, and between each of 
them and GEdit.


Not sure what's up with your setup, but it may be helpful to review the 
details and compare with the experience of other GNOME users to pin down 
the root cause.


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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:46 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:


 I found a semi-reliable solution using AppleScript. It works most of the
 time, though still doesn't cover everything, but gets almost all of it. I'll
 post it in a followup message.


From a List post 2 Oct 2007, Subject: Packages

I wrote:

put this in a do statement:

tell application Finder
  files of folder Disc:folderA:folder1
end tell

reports only Apple recognised files in the provided location

tell application Finder
  folders of folder Disc:folderB:folder2
end tell

reports only Apple recognised folders in the provided locations

tell application Finder
  packages of folder Disc:folderC:folder3
end tell

reports only Apple recognised packages in that location.

For added convenience, but slightly confusing depending on which side of the
fence you're on, the packages are reported as either 'application files'
which are of course folders that are applications, and 'document files'
which are of course folders that look like files (.band,.rtfd,.key)

One simple test I did, was that packages are the only folders that seem to
have a '.suffix', I've never thought anyone else would actually name a
folder with a .suffix, so I did, and the above correctly identified test
folder.test as a simple folder.

Mark Smith then provided this:

This is great! I couldn't find this anywhere. So here's a function that uses
it - maybe someone has better code for converting the path  to applescript.

function thePackages pFolder
   set the itemdelimiter to /
   if item 2 of pFolder is Volumes then
   delete item 1 to 2 of pFolder
   else
   put line 1 of the volumes before pFolder
   end if
   replace / with : in pFolder

   put tell application  quote  Finder  quote  cr  packages of
folder  quote \
pFolder  quote  cr  end tell into tScr
   do tScr as applescript
   put the result into tList
   replace comma with cr in tList

   repeat for each line L in tList
   get wordoffset(file, L)
   put word it + 1 of L  cr after tPackages
   end repeat
   replace quote with empty in tPackages
   return char 1 to -2 of tPackages
end thePackages

HTH
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Re: DataGrid Stuff

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I see. When you say The data grid will show this I thought you meant that 
the data grid would SHOW this but you meant the data grid will be in this 
state and showed what the header of the data grid would be. My bad. 

Bob


On Jul 12, 2010, at 12:52 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:

 2010/7/12 Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com:
 Not strictly true. His script worked fine if I named the columns State and 
 Code respectively.
 
 Or maybe not strictly true because I inverted the two sample preview
 of what you will obtain in each case.
 I pointed out here the two results obtain if you use or not the
 firstLineContainsColumnNames parameter. And definitively not pointed
 out that the script doesn't work.
 
 So to correct things we have to read:
 
 If firstLineContainsColumnNames is false, the grid will show this:
 
 State Code --- Header of the Datagrid
 state  code --- First line of data
 ALABAMA  AL   --- Second line of data
 ALASKA AK  --- Last line of data
 
 
 If firstLineContainsColumnNames is true, the Grid will contain:
 
 State Code  --- Header of the Datagrid
 ALABAMA  AL--- First line of data
 ALASKA AK   --- Last line of data
 
 
 Finally, the better way is to create the two columns by code during
 the importation of the data:
 
   if (firstLineContainsColumnNames) then
  if (the dgProp[columns] of group DataGrid 1 is empty) then
 put first line of theText into tHeaderLine
 replace tab with return in tHeaderLine
 set the dgProp[columns] of group DataGrid 1 to tHeaderLine
  end if
   end if
 
  set the dgText[firstLineContainsColumnNames] of group MyDataGrid to theText
 
 
 Thanks Bob. I hope that you will found this answer strictly better
 than the previous ;)
 
 
 
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Re: OT: Free eBook about JQuery for a limited time

2010-07-12 Thread Kay C Lan
Matthias,

this is absolutely perfect timing. Thanks so much for sharing.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Matthias Rebbe runrev260...@m-r-d.dewrote:

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Re: OT: Free eBook about JQuery for a limited time

2010-07-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Matthias-

Thanks for posting this.

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Re: OT: Free eBook about JQuery for a limited time

2010-07-12 Thread stephen barncard
I didn't know it had a timeout -- its over now. Not available anymore.

sqb

On 12 July 2010 20:19, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Matthias-

 Thanks for posting this.

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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Kay C Lan wrote:


From a List post 2 Oct 2007, Subject: Packages


And just WHERE were you all weekend?! :)

Before I wrote to the list I searched the archives for both package 
and bundle and your post didn't show up. I could have saved myself hours.


But thank you so much Kay, I am definitely using your info. It's exactly 
what I need. And in the future, could you check in here every, say, 20 
minutes or so, in case someone needs you again?


:)

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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe

One more question! I don't own RunRev for Mac. Can I make stacks in windows
and transfer them from Mac?
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Re: ANN] Translating your Rev stacks into web apps

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
Rodeo Transfer is a stack. You can open it on Windows. 

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Join the Rodeo discussion:
http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves

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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread Warren Samples
use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote on Mon, 12 Jul 2010
22:02:36 -0500:

I've found a semi-reliable solution to the OS X file list issue by using 
an AppleScript. There are some complicated shell tricks I could have 
done, but they require far more work than the AppleScript, so this is 
what I'm doing now:

Hello,

There's a little bit of information here that you may find at least
interesting, and maybe even helpful:

http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=19t=5341

Cheers,

Warren

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Re: File lists

2010-07-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Warren Samples wrote:


There's a little bit of information here that you may find at least
interesting, and maybe even helpful:

http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=19t=5341


Thanks much. As it turns out, Kay had the magic info I needed.

And a confession to all: After reading Kay's post I found the same info 
in my save it for later because you might need it stack. There are 
almost a thousand posts in there but I forgot to look. I must be an idiot.


The handler Kay provided, btw, is Ken Ray's and it works perfectly. I 
changed packages to documents and got exactly what I was after.


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Re: OT: Free eBook about JQuery for a limited time

2010-07-12 Thread David C.
Heh, I'm not sure if I should feel bad or not about the freebie... as
a long time SitePoint customer I received an email from them over the
weekend that offered both  jQuery: Novice to Ninja  Simply
JavaScript (PDF's) for $4.95 each.

I've never cared much for working with JavaScript any more than I have
to, but it seemed like a pretty good bargain so I went ahead and
snatched them up.

What can I say, I'm a sucker for Dev titles.


Best regards,
David C.
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