re-Ordering sub stacks
I've got a project that has numerous subStacks, to which I often make changes or enhancements. Numerous others use the same basic project, and in order to simplify updating their projects, I have the user run an "updater" stack, which among other things deletes the subStack that has been changed in their project, and adds a "copy of" that substack to their mainstack, and renames it back to its original name. My problem comes when I then attempt to re-order the substacks in the mainstack. The below script works fine in Revolution versions previous to 3.0, but when run in 3.0 causes Revolution to shut down, and results in the original stack being left with only one substack. If you want to download a test stack with half a dozen substacks, and the button installed in the mainstack, the URL is below. http://ddm.geo.umass.edu/ddm-testReorderStacks-rev.zip I caution you that you might want to make a copy of it, and run that copy because of how Rev 3.0, along with shutting down, changes the original multi-substack version to a single stack version before quitting. Appreciate any help with this - it does look bad to tell users you have to use a previous version of Revolution to run this re-ordering script. Chris button script: --re-order substacks on mouseUp set the hilite of me to true put mainstacks() into listOfMainStacks put the num of lines in listOfMainStacks into numToDo repeat with x = 1 to numToDo if char 1 to 4 of line x of listOfMainStacks = "ddm-" then put line x of listOfMainStacks into thismainStack exit repeat end if end repeat set the cursor to busy lock Screen orderSubs thismainStack set the hilite of me to false beep answer "Done!" set the cursor to arrow set the hilite of me to false end mouseUp on orderSubs thismainStack get the substacks of stack thismainStack sort it set the substacks of stack thismainStack to it save stack thismainStack end orderSubs -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
rawKeyDown not working in SAs?
I've got a scrolling group (named "OverlayAndImageGroup ") that is composed of an image of a map, and numerous text fields and other smaller groups. I have been trying to add the capability to use the mouse's scrolling wheel to scroll the group "OverlayAndImageGroup" up and down. When I add to the group "OverlayAndImageGroup" the script --below 3 handlers added 2007-12-18 on rawKeyDown theKeyNumber --put theKeyNumber into msg if theKeyNumber is 65308 then increaseScroll -- mouse wheel down else if theKeyNumber is 65309 then decreaseScroll -- mouse wheel up else pass rawKeyDown -- don't forget this! end rawKeyDown on decreaseScroll set the vScroll of group "OverlayandImageGroup" to the vScroll of group "OverlayandImageGroup" - 51 put the ScreenmouseLoc into thisLoc --below done to get calcLatLong run to update latitude set the ScreenmouseLoc to item 1 of thisLoc, item 2 of thisLoc + 1 end decreaseScroll on increaseScroll set the vScroll of group "OverlayandImageGroup" to the vScroll of group "OverlayandImageGroup" + 51 put the ScreenmouseLoc into thisLoc--below done to get calcLatLong run to update latitude set the ScreenmouseLoc to item 1 of thisLoc, item 2 of thisLoc - 1 end increaseScroll it works perfectly as long as I am in the "development" environment. I also have built into this "Map" stack, the ability to measure distances areas, etc., from a mouseDown handler in the "Map" stack script, and to get latitude - longitude read outs from a mouseMove handler in the "Map" stack's card level script. It, too works perfectly as long as I am in the "development" environment (one has to open a "Tools" palette to start measuring, a process that sets globals that control the measuring processes). BUT when I create a standalone (for both Mac and Windows), neither the mouse scrolling wheel works to scroll the group "OverlayandImageGroup" up or down, nor does the ability to measure distances, areas, etc. work. The mouseMove does, however, continue to feed into my lat-longitude script and give me lat & long. Has anyone else run into this kind of a problem? One can download the offending rev stack (18.2 MB unzipped, 6.5 MB zipped) from the url http://ddm.geo.umass.edu/ddm-umass/ddm-umass-2008-01-17-rev.zip if you want to get to SAs that do work, visit the web page http://ddm.geo.umass.edu/ddm-umass/index.html I'm using Intel Macs (a MacBookPro and desktop Pro) and OS 10.4 & 10.5 and both Rev 2.8.1 and 2.9.0-dp-3 Build 520 and all behavior is the same on the platforms, and on the Windows SA's I've created. ___ Along the same lines, is there a rawKeyDown code for left-right scrolling? I've used Sarah's KeyCoder.rev project (thanks, Sarah!) with no joy as well as the code: on rawKeyDown pKey put pKey into msg end rawKeyDown in a v and h scrolling field and get no rawKeyCode when i try to scroll left-right appreciate help. Chris -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
fake grabber
Has anyone experimented with making a grabber (as was found in SuperCard), that would let your drag a scrolling group (including an image, and other controls) around, when you (in the case below) depress either the command or control keys with a mouseDown and invoke this fakeGrabber script? My problem is that the process is sometimes slow, and also gets confused and is left with the grabber icon showing. And does anyone know if there is a request to add a "grabber" to Revolution? last reference i saw to grabber in the listServ was 2004! ---(this is part of the script to the scrolling group named "overlayandImageGroup": on MouseDown if the commandKey is down or the controlKey is down then set the tool to browse set the cursor to 11079 -- (a "grabber" hand) FakeGrabber --set the cursor to hand else send mouseDown to stack "Map" end mouseDown --and it calls this in the mainstack's script: on FakeGrabber put 3 into Threshold put the mouseLoc into oldLoc put the short name of this stack into thisStacksName #to keep the centering on wanted feature from overscrolling put the width of stack thisStacksName into StackWidth put the height of stack thisStacksName into StackHeight put the width of image "theImageBox" into theImageBoxBotRtX put the height of image "theImageBox" into theImageBoxBotRtY put (theImageBoxBotRtX + 16) - StackWidth into MaxScrollX put (theImageBoxBotRtY + 16) - StackHeight into MaxScrollY repeat forever if the mouse is up then exit repeat put the mouseLoc into newLoc put item 1 of newLoc - item 1 of oldLoc into xLoc put item 2 of newLoc - item 2 of oldLoc into yLoc if abs(xLoc) >= Threshold or abs(yLoc) >= Threshold then put hScroll of group "OverlayAndImageGroup" into StartHScroll put vScroll of group "OverlayAndImageGroup" into StartVScroll put StartHScroll - xLoc into newXScroll put StartVScroll - yLoc into newYScroll set the lockScreen to true #to keep the centering on wanted feature from overscrolling if NewXScroll > MaxScrollX then set the hscroll of group "OverlayAndImageGroup" to MaxScrollX else set the hScroll of group "OverlayAndImageGroup" to NewXScroll end if if newYScroll > MaxScrollY then set the vscroll of group "OverlayAndImageGroup" to MaxScrollY else set the vScroll of group "OverlayAndImageGroup" to NewYScroll end if set the lockScreen to false put newLoc into oldLoc if the commandKey is up and the controlKey is up then exit repeat end if end repeat end FakeGrabber -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bluetooth/USP GPS
Hi Camm- Looking at my MacBookPro's System Preferences, it appears if I go to "Bluetooth" settings, that under "Sharing" I have the option to "Start Serial Port" using one of two "Type" settings, either "Modem" or "RS232" . By default, the port is named "SerialPort-1" . To me, that implies that if I select RS232 as my "Type" setting , a Bluetooth GPS will be communicating through SerialPort-1 as if it was an RS232 device. Does that make sense? thanks for your continuing help on this - I want to make sure I buy the correct GPS system! Chris CAMM29 said: Chris , Well , that's not exactly what I said ! RunRev only has in built Commands for RS232 Type Data talking via RS232 Com Ports 1-9 , My setup is PC Side (RunRev) USB to Bluetooth Dongle configured as Virtual RS232 Com Port 1 Third Party Side --- Bluetooth to RS232 Convertor So RunRev thinks its talking via a standard RS232 Link , its does not matter what the transmission medium is but RunRev must see RS232 Data on a RS232 ComPort at the end of the day !!! Hope that Helps ! Regards Camm -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
USB or Bluetooth GPS
Revolutionaries- I've been working on making what I call "Dynamic Digital Maps" using Rev (you're welcome to piggy-back using my DDM-Template to make your own, see URL below). The DDM allows one to open jpeg map images in the DDM, and supply georeference information on the image, it so you can get latitude-longitude read outs as you scroll the mouse over the image. Now that classes are out, I'd like to take some time this summer to build in the capability to track your location from a GPS system as you are viewing the map (that is, to have the GPS signal drive the cursor location instead of having the mouse do it). I've been looking over various GPS devices, and see a couple that might work that use either USB or supply "Communication with Host platform Via Bluetooth Serial Port Profile" and wonder if anyone can give me a pointer as to which, if either I might be able to use with Revolution. In January this year, Sarah Reichelt allowed that: "The [...] problem is that Rev cannot talk directly to a USB port. For all the interface things that I do, I use serial ports and I connect them to my Mac using a USB to serial adapter. Once you install the driver for such a device, Rev sees it as a serial device even though it is connected via USB, so then the standard serial commands work fine." I can get a Keyspan serial adapter to hook up to a GPS, but that seems like a more cumbersome way to go than straight USB or Bluetooth. Especially so, since USGlobalSat has two GPS that are WAAS enabled (for higher accuracy), one that uses a USB (for $80), and the other that uses Bluetooth for $160. Appreciate any help cheers Chris -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution and GeoInfomatics
For those of you interested in maps in general, I've been developing a "Dynamic Digital Map" template using Revolution (see http://ddm.geo.umass.edu for downloads & info), and will be giving a talk at the U.S. Geological Survey and National Science Foundation - sponsored Geoinfomatics meeting this Thursday 11 May, along with a colleague Mike Williams (sure glad I'm before, and not after Mike - he's a hell of a speaker). The talks will be webcast at: http://www.geongrid.org/geoinformatics2006/: Thursday, May 11 2006 Morning Sessions 9:40 - 12:00 Concurrent session 2: Geologic mapping and databases, Visitor Center Chair: Peter Lyttle, U.S. Geological Survey 10:40 - 11:00 Christopher Condit Dept. Geosciences, Univ. Massachusetts-Amherst Dynamic Digital Maps: An Open-Source Tool to Distribute Maps, Data, Articles and Multi-Media as an Integrated Stand-alone Cross-platform Package via the Web and CD/DVD for Use in Research, Teaching and Archiving Information 11:00 - 11:20 Michael Williams Geosciences - University of Massachusetts Building a dynamic image-based database: Integrating thin section images and data using Dynamic Digital Maps ++ A little background on this: Dynamic Digital Maps, the Open Source DDM-Template and Cookbook Christopher D. Condit Department of Geosciences University of Massachusetts-Amherst National Science Foundation - Grant # DUE-CCLI-0127331 2002-2006. As part of a four year, $300,000 project, funded to him by the U.S. National Science Foundation, Chris Condit, a professor in the Geosciences Department at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst has developed a product called the "Dynamic Digital Map". The heart of it is an open-source program enabling Revolution users to publish maps, images, movies, text and data as an integrated product that is a royalty-free stand-alone application. A description of DDMs, the open source code, and downloads of more than 10 DDMs can be found at the URL http://ddm.geo.umass.edu/. Condit will be teaching a course on how to make DDMs this fall at UMass. Description of a Dynamic Digital Map A Dynamic Digital Map is a stand-alone "presentation manager" program that displays and links maps, images, movies, data and supporting text, such as map explanations and field trip guides. Made using the cross-platform Revolution programming environment (see http://www.runrev.com), DDMs are WEB-enabled and browser independent. The "DDM-Template" is an open source Revolution program into which one can insert metadata (mostly file names) that enable the program to open maps, images, figures and movies from an organization of directories. A DDM maker can further modify the Template as they make their own DDM by inserting text and data directly into the program, which will be renamed to reflect its new content. A "Cookbook" guides the Revolution user through the steps of building the DDM. Once a Template has been completely modified, stand-alone applications for a variety of operating systems (for example, Windows, Mac OS X, Linux) can be made directly from this single Revolution document. DDM examples have been made for two volcanic areas (the Tatara-San Pedro volcanic complex in Chile, and the Springerville volcanic field in Arizona (Condit, 1995a), for the geology of western New England (which includes six field trips), for the Moon (made in collaboration with the U.S. Geological Survey), and Mars (a superb senior thesis by Selby Cull of Hampshire College). The DDM-SVF includes an automated five minute tour showing how to use a DDM; the DDM-NE includes an interactive tour. The DDMs posted on the web (or if you are using this from a CD/DVD, in these folders) are standalone programs that run without other software. The programs, if run from DVD, access their data from specified directories within their home folder. Alternatively they can open data via fast internet connections. In this case, they access their maps and images (in jpeg format), and movies (in QuickTime format)] from a file server in Chris Condit's lab at UMass-Amherst; any web server using http protocol will work for self-built DDMs. To see any included movies, both Windows and Mac based computers must have the latest QuickTime Player installed (free from Apple for both platforms, at www.apple.com). Computers with less than 512 MB of free RAM will run these programs very slowly at best. + The most important missing piece that will make this DDM project really "fly" will be the ability to import eps text fields or objects into Revolution. Maps are time-consuming enough to make without having to re-make them again (at least the text labels) just to get them into Revolution. Alejandro Tejada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has written EpsImportV04 to import vector graphics, and I've had some success with importing text
Rev on Intel iMacs
I used a couple of stand-alones on an iMac last week. They are both a big (20 to 29 meg programs that you can download from http://ddm.geo.umass.edu/ddm-svf/ and http://ddm.geo.umass.edu/ddm-ne) that essentially manage the integrated display of maps, images, field guides and analytical data. The programs ran smoothly and were very responsive under Rosetta - no problems there. Incidentally, has any one else had trouble with zooming into and out of QuickTime panoramas using 2.7.1? Chrsi -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
activating a menu via script
I'm in the process of writing an automated "Tour" that plays from a button click, to show a potential user how a program works. As part of the tour I want to show the user how some of the menu items work from a standard pull-down menu located top left of the monitor. Using script I'm writing, I want the user to be able to watch as I open a pull down menu and select a menu item. Does anyone have any idea if I can do this via script, and if so give me a few clues as to how to do it? thanks Chris -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Dialog Box in the Center of the Screen . . .
Roger said: "I have a narrow (180 pixels) "Palette" style stack on the extreme left edge of the screen from which I call up an "answer" dialog box. On the Mac (OS X) this dialog box is centered on the screen, but in the Windows environment this dialog box is centered on the "Palette" stack and is therefore partially offscreen. How can I make this dialog box appear in the center of the screen on the Windows platform?" --- What I do is set the the ask & answer palettes to always open at the center of the screen, by having them open at the screenLoc. To do this, I use Revolution's "View" Menu to "Show the Revolution UI Elements in the List", and then use the "Tools" menu to "Show the Application Browser" . Select the "Ask dialog" and right-click on it and show it's script. In the preOpenCard handler, add the line "set the loc of me to the screenLoc", and apply the change.. Do the same with the "Answer dialog". Then close Revolution and when it asks if you ant to save the changes to stack "Ask Dialog", select "Save". Do the same with the Answer dialog. Now when dialogs open they will open in the center of the screen. I's a keeper, and when you make a astand alone with your version o fRev., the script will still apply to these dialogs I thought we had a bug to get the runRev crew to give us the option to add ask "at 200,200", or where ever, but since I've not gotten involved in the bugzilla game, am not sure of its status at this point. hope it helps. this was talked about 6 months or so ago, when I ran into the same problem, and other more involved, and more elegant solutions offered. Chris -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution/MetaCard Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
grabber in Rev (was PDF)
Hi List (especially Ken N. and Brian Yennie)- I noticed in Rev list V. 6 Issue 38 Ken N. & Brian Yennie traded info about: "and plugged the *genuine* Rev-style mouseMove grab/scroll handlers into the image script. It works beautifully. Grab/scrolls like its on bed of ball bearings. No problems, no joke." --- Is this an new thing, like the old SuperCard "grabber"? - I didn't think Rev 2.1.2 had any grabber capability. I don't see any info in it with the rev doc included with the application. I have a "fake" grabber, buy would sure like areal one., so I could simplfy that code --- Also is there a 4000 pixel limit and does that apply to both length and width, does anyone know? TIA -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution/MetaCard Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Import Full Formated Text
another much needed component to add to REVs built in formatting would be decimal tabs -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution/MetaCard Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
centering ask & answer dialogs
I've run into problems on the Win32 platform getting ask & answer dialog boxes to display completely on the screen. As a work around, what I've done is hacked the revAsk and revAnswer stacks and in the preOpen stack handler added "set the loc of me to the screenLoc", since that seems to me to be as good a place as any to display dialog boxes. Seemed to work fine both using the rev GUI and when I created a stand alone, both on Mac and Win32. Can anyone thingk of a reason i shouldn't be doing that, or where it will cause problems? and Rev Team: any chance of including the capability of beinag able to choose where to place ask & answer dialog boxes, using for example: ask "Can we do this" at 300,300 ? TIA Chris -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution/MetaCard Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
