Re: Printing a player image in XP
Thanks Mark. For posterity, here is the 'Win XP workaround: Right before you print, execute ... import snapshot from card 1 ... then you can print the card and see what was in your QT Player objects. Don't forget to delete the image that results from using that command. I need to display TIFFs and QuickTime is the only way I know to do that in Rev. So, I make sure XP has QT installed and then I use the Player object. Everything displays fine. When I print in XP, though, i get mush. The Players are just a grey box (everything else on the page prints fine.) I also tried Printing to PDF to see if that helped but no dice. It works fine in OSX so the approach appears to be sound. I did consider a workaround of 'export snapshot as PNG' and then putting that image in front of the Player. However, the QT approach is already a little pokey and so I'd like to find a better solution. (It also might snapshot the print dialogue unless it supports off-screen shots!) Have you looked into Trevor's QT external? Maybe there is something in there. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Printing a player image in XP
I need to display TIFFs and QuickTime is the only way I know to do that in Rev. So, I make sure XP has QT installed and then I use the Player object. Everything displays fine. When I print in XP, though, i get mush. The Players are just a grey box (everything else on the page prints fine.) I also tried Printing to PDF to see if that helped but no dice. It works fine in OSX so the approach appears to be sound. I did consider a workaround of 'export snapshot as PNG' and then putting that image in front of the Player. However, the QT approach is already a little pokey and so I'd like to find a better solution. (It also might snapshot the print dialogue unless it supports off-screen shots!) Any thoughts, ideas, magical incantations ??? TY ... Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 66, Issue 24
one thought is a shell command to do a port scan. an easier thought though is to setup a webserver (or something else easy to access via rev like say FTP) on that computer on another non-standard port. chances are, if you are app can successfully access that port then it can get the chosen SQL port. In a message dated 3/15/09 10:00:32 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com writes: From: Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu Subject: Checking for MySQL access So this brings up a question. How could I check any given network to make sure that the appropriate ports is open ... ** Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare0002) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevUp, Quick Tip: Easy Toggle Buttons
In the RevUp newsletter, Bill Marriott wrote a nice tip for doing column headings using a family of radio buttons ... http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/may/issue49/newsletter4.php?id=NW49S517047 FYI On my copy of 2.9.1 on OSX 10.5 the buttons were highlighting dark purple such that i couldn't read the label anymore (the example uses Windows.) To fix, for each button x i did the following (by script -- or using Inspector) ... set the borderwidth of btn x to 1 -- Icons Border, Border Width set the hilite color of btn x to 255,255,255 -- Color Patterns, Hilited Text, White Thanks for the tip Bill. ** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4amp;?NCID=aolfod000302) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Re: Filthy Apples
Granted ewaste is a monster problem and apple can do more to help. Here is the link to apple's official word on the topic ... http://www.apple.com/environment/recycling/ It includes these points... Apple maintains a variety of recycling programs which add to recycling totals every day: - For customers in the United States, Apple offers a free recycling program of old computers and monitors with the purchase of a new Mac. - A free iPod recycling program, conducted through Apple’s retail stores, offers environmentally friendly disposal and a 10% discount on the purchase of a new iPod. - A trade-in program for educational and business customers in the United States has already diverted more than 60 tons of electronic waste from landfills since August 2005. - Apple’s recycling partnership with the city of Cupertino, California has recycled more than 155 tons of electronics. All electronics products are accepted free of charge, regardless of manufacturer. - We also participate in recycling programs in Asia, including national programs in Japan and Taiwan. Certainly apple should take the lead and do as much as possible in this arena but they don't appear to be as derelict as the greenpeace ad campaign would imply. I can't help but think the ipod (which has a decent recycle program) makes them too easy a target and that other products and companies are far more insidious. (feel free to respond to me directly as this is getting off topic for the list) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: form email to RevCGI
All good questions. Thank you. Yes i checked the HTML i received in the email and it was the same code that I sent. None of the method code and script calls had been butchered. In fact, i could detach the html file (some email clients let you do this) and open it as a web page and it worked fine. I tried several email clients (AOL, QuickMail, Mail and Entourage) and had that same no parameters result. I used to think this was just a limitation of email clients (i.e. they could look like a web page but they weren't full featured and couldn't support actions) but then I started getting these form version that called PHP scripts. Has anyone tried doing this with a rev CGI engine? In a message dated 8/4/06 10:49:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Next, I use ShaoSean's libSMTP and libEmailEncode252 to attach the HTML form to an email. I get the HTML based email which looks fine and I fill in all the stuff and hit Submit. what go you mean by which looks fine ? did you actually chack the HTML code received in the email, and especially the line with the GET method to make sure parts of the code aren't corruped or missing ? Again, this works fine if use the HTML as a web page. It only goes blank when i do it via email??? which email client do you use ? could there be any settings that enable / disable the use of forms and submit requests in HTML code ? JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
form email to RevCGI, solved for GET not POST
The GET method encodes the form data in the URL and the POST method passes it as a parameter. When a rev CGI reads from StdIn it just gets the parameters and so GET will never work that way. To get that URL inside a rev CGI you need to use the $QUERY_STRING variable. The downside to using GET is that your params (encoded in the URL) are out there for the world to see and there is a limit on length (and that may kill what i wanted to do!) The email clients don't appear to support the sending of parameters because a POST form works great from the browser but not from any email client I have tried. -- Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:32:05 EDT Sometimes i buy things online and receive a survey form in my email to rate the seller. The forms usually have some graphics, text, radio buttons, a text box (for comments) and a submit button. The idea being that you can do the response right there in the email program and click Submit to send off the response. You are then sent to a thank you web page. These are, of course, HTML emails and upon closer examination, they use the GET method to call a PHP script at the server. (form action=http://www.pricegrabber.com/html_user_sales_rate.php; method=get) I want to do this with my Rev CGI, so i setup a script that just returns the form parameters. I test it out first as a stand alone web page and it works great. Next, I use ShaoSean's libSMTP and libEmailEncode252 to attach the HTML form to an email. I get the HTML based email which looks fine and I fill in all the stuff and hit Submit. I go to the web page and i get my static response but none of the info i supplied to the form. I have the script write out the variables it receives and they are empty. It is as though the revCGI is being called but can't access the data, or is not being given the data, that was passed when making the form submission. Again, this works fine if use the HTML as a web page. It only goes blank when i do it via email??? Are there some limitations here that I do not know? Thanks for your thoughts! Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
form email to RevCGI
Sometimes i buy things online and receive a survey form in my email to rate the seller. The forms usually have some graphics, text, radio buttons, a text box (for comments) and a submit button. The idea being that you can do the response right there in the email program and click Submit to send off the response. You are then sent to a thank you web page. These are, of course, HTML emails and upon closer examination, they use the GET method to call a PHP script at the server. (form action=http://www.pricegrabber.com/html_user_sales_rate.php; method=get) I want to do this with my Rev CGI, so i setup a script that just returns the form parameters. I test it out first as a stand alone web page and it works great. Next, I use ShaoSean's libSMTP and libEmailEncode252 to attach the HTML form to an email. I get the HTML based email which looks fine and I fill in all the stuff and hit Submit. I go to the web page and i get my static response but none of the info i supplied to the form. I have the script write out the variables it receives and they are empty. It is as though the revCGI is being called but can't access the data, or is not being given the data, that was passed when making the form submission. Again, this works fine if use the HTML as a web page. It only goes blank when i do it via email??? Are there some limitations here that I do not know? Thanks for your thoughts! Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Why would it be a pain?
My beef with IT is that IT isn't defined as a global variable by default. For example, if you need a quick file path and type ... answer file ... you can't get your path unless you previously did this ... global it In HC that was done by default which I found to be very handy. And that is all I have to say about IT. In a message dated 6/22/06 9:15:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Before you complete the ebook check in on BZ#3700: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3700 The enhancement request to have it return the full path when creating a folder has been confirmed, which suggests it may be implemented at some point. Richmond's perception about the pattern is useful, and it seems that at least Oliver at RunRev agrees. I imagine it would be relatively simple to implement -- I wonder how hard it would be to get that into the next build ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Why would it be a pain?
IT is global in HC (although curiously it doesn't show in the HC variable watcher). you still have to declare it as a global within a script to use it (same as any other global in HC or Rev.) my point is that when you are out in the message box it is available to you. as soon as you put something in it, or use a call like answer, you can 'put it' and get the contents. in rev you first have to say 'global it' if you want to try and use it from the message gox. try this in HC msg box ... get stuff put it ... you get 'stuff' in HC but in Rev you get 'it' my point is not to match HC but rather to be able to type things into the message box, like answer folder, and be able to get at the contents of it without having to try and remember to type global it before i make the answer call. that's it my friends! In a message dated 6/22/06 11:23:54 AM, use- Of course, 'it' will be a local only, unless the script or handler declares 'global it' so any scripts you do not control will not regard 'it' as a global, such as library front/back scripts, plugins. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MVC in Rev?
to my fellow ludites also not familiar with that particular acronym ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller Looks like great fun! I can't wait to buy one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: deleteDups()
Chris wrote: function deleteDups pList repeat with x=number of lines in pList down to 2 if line x of pList is line (x-1) of pList then delete line x of pList end repeat return pList end deleteDups then Eric Chatonet wrote ... function deleteDups pList local tLine,tStrippedList - repeat for each line tLine in pList if tLine is not among the lines of tStrippedList then put tLine cr after tStrippedList end repeat return word 1 to -1 of tStrippedList end deleteDups then J. Landman Gay wrote ... function deleteDups pList split pList by cr and numToChar(3) return keys(pList) end deleteDups You have enlarged my universe. Using for each is several orders of magnitude faster than my original script and split is faster still. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: deleteDups()
then J. Landman Gay wrote ... function deleteDups pList split pList by cr and numToChar(3) return keys(pList) end deleteDups Geoff Canyon wrote ... it looks like the split command takes not quite twice as long as repeat for each ... function deleteDupes pList -- does _not_ retain sort order repeat for each line L in pList put 1 into temp[L] end repeat return the keys of temp end deleteDupes Thanks Geoff. Actually, I am getting split as four times faster than 'for each' (under v2.6.0 2.6.1) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
deleteDups()
I used to use an Xcmd set called HyperExternals Pro and one of its useful XFCN's was deleteDups(). The main thing it did was to quickly eliminate the duplicate lines in a sorted list. Here is my transcript replacement ... function deleteDups pList repeat with x=number of lines in pList down to 2 if line x of pList is line (x-1) of pList then delete line x of pList end repeat return pList end deleteDups ... but I thought it might be fun to see what others have to offer up that would be more elegant and clever! Anyone? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: kwote
benching ... global gWote put quote %s quote into gWote -- outside loop get format(gWote, asdf) vs get kwote(asdf) function kwote string return quote string quote end kwote vs get quote asdf quote ticks after 100,000 iterations were 22, 39 and 5! PS My apoligies to Mr. Gaskin for doing bechmarks. :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 26, Issue 18
I would pay for that one. There are a lot of document management chores that could be written with a little control over the scanning part. We could toss the doc on the glass, click a Rev button that says Preview, followedy by a few popups or checkboxes to categorize and label it, and then Scan/Submit to shoot it into the system! It would be just beautiful. In a message dated 11/4/05 2:10:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the way to handle USB externals is to right specific externals for specific tasks. For instance a TWAIN USB external which could interface with TWAIN compliant scanners. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: importing data from excel
Is there an easy way to import data from an Excel tablesheet into a Revolution stack? Is this a one time export/import or something that needs to happen on a regular basis and launched by a script? If it is a one time ... save the spreadsheet as tab delimited text and then write a script to pick through the data and put it into fields. we can help you with a script for that if you like. if it is an ongoing thing that you want to automate then I can think of several ways to do it ... Have Rev launch an Excel macro file that writes your Excel data to a text file and then let Rev snatch the data from there. Script Rev to do same as above using AppleScript (assuming Mac) instead of a macro file. Bonus if you can have AppleScript deliver the info directly to Rev and skip the text file. Script Rev to send AppleEvents (again assuming Mac) to Excel to retrieve the data. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Field printing blank page? (I'm so stupid!)
kudos to you for admitting that ... you made my day ! In a message dated 9/29/05 3:14:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:49:21 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:Field printing blank page? (I'm so stupid!) To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com OMG I can't believe how retarded I am! I forgot to take of the tape on the ink cartridge. Everything is working fine now. I guess I just needed to sleep on it. Thanks anyway for all your help. Revolution Rocks! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Resetting a router
You might also play with opening up a Telnet or SSH connection to the router as most routers have their own operating system with simple commands to do a reboot. I don't think there is a canned Telnet or SSH stack out there in Rev but I would look into writing a script for those apps and then just use Rev to launch that script using shell() On Aug 17, 2005, at 11:06 AM, Mark Smith wrote: ... I was away for a month just recently, and it all went wrong after about two weeks, so until I got back to reset things, the data was not collected. I can't help feeling that a simpler, probably Rev only solution would be more reliable, but I can't figure out how to get Rev to login to the router and press the right HTML buttons to do it. This is a Belkin adsl modem/router box, that has the usual HTML based control interface. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uh-oh.... Anybody following WWDC?
FYI ... page 17 of the newly released Universal Binary Programming Guidelines says ... Mac OS X ensures that byte-ordering is correct for anything it is responsible for. Apple-defined resources (such as menus) wont result in problem behavior. Custom resources provided by your application can result in problem behavior. ... this document is a good read BTW if you wonder how everything is going to work. I was much less skeptical/cynical after reading it. In a message dated 6/6/05 12:38:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In our scripts we should not depend on OS X as an indicator of byte order. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] The Scripter's Scrapbook version 5
Just an observation ... This may not be readily obvious but the app can browse and publish scraps at the Flexible Learning site. The posts can be filtered rather nicely and then added to one's own scrapbook if so desired. I find this to be a bit easier to filter and search then at RevOnline. I encourage everyone to post some goodies. BTW the interface on SSBK is so mature that it reminds me I should work harder at the details. Good work and thank you. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Database Query Builder 2
Thank you Jan. I will do that with BZ. I know how to do the sql connect using the functions but I think the DBQ could be such a boon for new users that I really want to see it work. As we say in my country YOU are the man! Jan writes: Hi Chris, This problem would happen on MacOS, of course -- not on Windows/Unix, as the MacOS HIG is the only one where a button doesn't receive the keyboard focus. You could patch the mouseUp handler in the revDatabase frontscript to get around that limitation, and make sure the closeField is called, as follows : ## just after the line if exists(pObject) and the cREVGeneral[databasequeryobject] of pObject is true then ## you insert the following line select empty ## this causes any open field to receive a closeField You might want to bugzilla this problem, and suggest the patch above. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] So now I can make changes but I still have one major hickup. If I click a button that is linked to the database such as a Next button set to 'Move to Next Record' then the field doesn't appear to ever get the close message needed to trigger the update. If I click any non DQB linked button or in the background then the save is made but if I go straight to a button like Next then the change is lost. I created a workaround by putting the Next button off screen and then making a fake Next button that does this ... click at 1,1 -- where there is nothing click at the loc of btn Next ... but that really slows things down. I suppose i could play with ways to speed things up but here again the DQB is supposed to be helping me knock this thing out quick. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table field behavior
I don't think the table field will get the RawKeyDown message as it goes straight to the card. What if you place the code in the script of the field in question and then not have to worry about the name of the field or about it being called when doing stuff in other fields which may not want affected? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Database Query Builder 2
Jan was kind enough to point me to the check box 'Cache record set' as a means of getting the DQB to upload changes made to a field when the 'Update Field after editing' option is checked in the Database section of the inspector. I had thought Cache'ing the record set meant it would NOT be rechecking the mySQL database for changes but instead it appears to mean something like 'Keep the local cache up to date!' This really needs to go into the documentation, and the little video primers, because it is too elusive for a newbie. So now I can make changes but I still have one major hickup. If I click a button that is linked to the database such as a Next button set to 'Move to Next Record' then the field doesn't appear to ever get the close message needed to trigger the update. If I click any non DQB linked button or in the background then the save is made but if I go straight to a button like Next then the change is lost. I created a workaround by putting the Next button off screen and then making a fake Next button that does this ... click at 1,1 -- where there is nothing click at the loc of btn Next ... but that really slows things down. I suppose i could play with ways to speed things up but here again the DQB is supposed to be helping me knock this thing out quick. Any other half-documented features out there to which i should be paying attetion ?Thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: watermarked images that photocopy as void
There is a name to the process of embedding an image in an image that doesn't show up until you photocopy it ... I need it to watermark the printing on a rev project ... Does anyone know the name of this effect so i can research it? thank you! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 20, Issue 50
I played with that but it doesn't appear to be totally reliable??? In a message dated 5/13/05 9:42:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DataBase Query Builder I have a little button that says refresh which I have to push. I never did automate it because it takes so long. On 5/12/05 11:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't look like an auto Refresh of the query was ever incorporated into the DB Query Builder. Changes to a field, which do update the database, are not visible when you come back to that record. Is there a simple way to get around this? Thank you. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
DataBase Query Builder
It doesn't look like an auto Refresh of the query was ever incorporated into the DB Query Builder. Changes to a field, which do update the database, are not visible when you come back to that record. Is there a simple way to get around this? Thank you. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table Field Docs?
at this address below is a collection of notes I put together on doing tables. it is not exhaustive but will get you going. http://www.christophercomputers.com/rev/tablefun.rev.sit or go stack url http://www.christophercomputers.com/rev/tablefun.rev; i think the key thing is knowing when you must use the rev functions (hidden in the frontscript) to access the table versus accessing the field directly i wrote this a few years ago and apologize for the lazy scripting conventions :) BTW the other way to do tables is to use the AltBrowser (see www.altuit.com) and do it in good ol' HTML ! http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altBrowserCover/default.htm In a message dated 5/10/05 2:46:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there anyone on the list (or better still from RunRev) who can provide more comprehensive documentation for table fields ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Tiger breaking HC
I hate to bring this up here as it feels so retro but bad things are happening to me under 10.4 in a HyperCard app to which I still lend some support (ArtStacks!) I have found the HC list and posted the details there but I would appreciate it if someone else who has Tiger and still has to support HC would poke around and contact me off list with the results. Thank you. (and Go REV!) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where IS the Report Builder?
check out ... http://www.quartam.com/reports/tour/index.htm I think RunRev was expecting a simultaneous release with 2.5 but I recall that the author Jan Schenkel had to delay completion for personal reasons ... http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg45366.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table field ... revWriteCellValue
I am not familiar with the handlers you are using but I update my tables this way .. get the data from the field make the change to it set the table property for that field to it ask rev to re-display the table. Here is a snipet I use to delete a line ... on delTableLine pFldNm,pDeleteLineNum put fld(pFldNm) into fldData delete line pDeleteLineNum of fldData set the cREVTable[currentview] of field(pFldNm) to fldData revDisplayFormattedData (fieldquotepFldNmquote) end delTableLine ... I too found enlightenment from Master Jan! From: Jerry Balzano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Table field bug/typo in revWriteCellValue I was having trouble figuring out how to read and write the contents of table fields, so I checked the archive and found a post by Jan Schenkel from last September where he describes how to use the revReadCellValue and revWriteCellValue handlers. http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-September/044383.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Collaboration on the LAN
I'm just beginning to think about this, and looking for any and all ideas. I always like the idea of sending people email to notify them that something needs their attention (they don't dare ignore my mail because I control payroll!) Two thoughts come to mind after reading this part in your post ... So, goal would be to, during these two hours, when I give the high sign Photos are in! to allow various individual on the land to a) view the photos in the current order they are in. b) be able to see captions as they are in the current state c) edit, add to, or write from scratch captions freely, and update So getting back to email ... I would use it to notify them that the item has arrived and then perhaps follow one of these two approaches ... 1. Send an html email with the photos a part of it and then ask that they reply with a caption. The email would have some sort of tag in it that would allow you to place the reply to the appropriate photo. That is a similar approach to a lot of the tech support systems that say please include this seciton in your reply You would write a rev stack to check the email account periodically and post these updates. 2. Send a text email that alerts them of a photo needing a caption with a link to a form style web page where the photos are displayed and the person adds a caption and clicks submit. You would write the rev cgi script/stack to update your main data Your thin client approach also sounds promising. If your main stack simply holds the captions and photo URLs then the client can simply run up there and get that relatively small amount of information and then display it. It could also tag the record (card in your stack) to say it is in use OR when it goes to post a change it could check to see if someone else had made a change in the iterim and then give the user options to work it out. I usually use the latter because I find that two people actually changing the same record in the same session is so rare. Keep us posted as lots of projects are similar to this. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
use bottomRight of scroll fld to resize
Hello all, I like these horizontal AND vertical scroll fields but curiously they have this little square in the lower right corner that does nothing. I needed a user resizable scroll field for my project so I used mouseMove to make that little corner into a grab point . Here is the card script to make any field, with both H and V scrollbars, use that corner as a grabpoint ... on mouseMove pNewMouseH,pNewMouseV global gClickOffsetH,gCickOffsetV,gClickFieldNum if the mouse is up then put into gClickOffsetH put into gCickOffsetV put 0 into gClickFieldNum else if gClickOffsetH is empty then put theGrabTarget(pNewMouseH,pNewMouseV) into gClickFieldNum if gClickFieldNum=0 then exit mouseMove put the right of fld gClickFieldNum - pNewMouseH into gClickOffsetH put the bottom of fld gClickFieldNum - pNewMouseV into gCickOffsetV else get pNewMouseH+gClickOffsetH comma pNewMouseV+gCickOffsetV if the optionKey is down then set the bottomRight of fld gClickFieldNum to it else set the rect of fld gClickFieldNum to \ (the topLeft of fld gClickFieldNum comma it) end if end mouseMove function theGrabTarget pNewMouseH,pNewMouseV repeat with x=1 to number of fields if not (the hScrollBar of fld x and the vScrollBar of fld x) then next repeat put the scrollBarWidth of fld x into tGrabSize get (the right of fld x - tGrabSize) comma \ (the bottom of fld x - tGrabSize) comma bottomRight of fld x if (pNewMouseH comma pNewMouseV) is within it then return x end repeat return 0 end theGrabTarget ... and you can type this in your msg box to see an example ... go stack URL http://www.christophercomputers.com/rev/testDragger.rev; If you like 'grabbin and draggin' then this is a good intro to using mouseMove. Feel free to weigh in with suggestions as there are always better ways ! Christopher ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: pop3 attachment decoding
Using the rev function base64decode() and then writing to a binfile, I can make it work. I guess I would feel more comfortable working from the standard versus my observations. (AppleScript could tell Expander to do it for me but I would still need a Windows way.) Does anyone know which RFC, or something else, that defines the formatting of attachments ? In a message dated 3/29/04 11:24:11 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Chris, The encoding just reads the file as binary data, then uses base64encode. If you did the reverse, remembering to save as a binfile, I reckon it should work no matter what the file type. If you wanted to use Stuffit Expander instead, I have a technique I use sometimes for Apple Mail when attachments don't display properly, but just come through in their encoded form. I select the encoded section (from one boundary marker to the next), copy and paste it into a text editor, then save the file as whatever.hqx. If you then double-click, Stuffit Expander will decode it correctly. Cheers, Sarah On 30 Mar 2004, at 7:33 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am playing with the 'POP library' stack (thank you and kudos to Sarah) and it's time to decode the attachments. I can write my own decodes for the easy ones, like TXT and HTML, but I would like to better understand the format and do something that could be reused by others. Has anyone already done this ? And/or know which RFC defines the standard ? Thank you ... Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
pop3 attachment decoding
I am playing with the 'POP library' stack (thank you and kudos to Sarah) and it's time to decode the attachments. I can write my own decodes for the easy ones, like TXT and HTML, but I would like to better understand the format and do something that could be reused by others. Has anyone already done this ? And/or know which RFC defines the standard ? Thank you ... Chris ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3 Socket Q's but only 1.5 A's
In reverse order ... 3. AIM uses port 80 (and/or a port hopping scheme controlled on port 80) and you probably have that very open ! 2. yowza ... i will take the fifth on that one 1. I think it may have to do with inverse addressing records. That function doesn't work on either my static public address or my local router supplied address. I think that because I do not have inverse pointer records declared for either address and as a result I get an empty when I call hostname(). There ought to be a shell command that will let you get the IP of the ethernet interface(s) In a message dated 3/26/04 1:14:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. This returns my local IP address on all my machines not connected to my router: get hostnametoaddress(hostname()) But behind my router it returns empty. Why? And what is the reliable way to obtain the local IP address? 2. I maintain a log of socket activity while I'm testing, which includes my own calls as well as messages like socketClosed and socketTimeout. I sometimes find that I get socketClosed messages even as the session continues to work just fine. I had the (evidently mistaken) impression that a socketTimeout message was sent when a socket is closed due to a timeout. But since the socket appears to remain open, what is the common appropriate response to getting a socketTimeout message? I'm assuming the answer is not to ignore it. :) 3. To have my apps connect through my router I need to configure my router's address triggering, specifying the port I'm using. Apparently this approach is used by many games as well, and some routers come pre-configured with settings that can be turned on for popular games. Why does AIM not have this requirement? I realize it's going through a server, but since the server is outside my firewall shouldn't I need to explicitely allow it to talk back to my machine? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Select question
So you are allowing your user to resize the field by switching to the Select tool but yet you want the text editing behavior of the Browse tool when the user clicks in the field? H ... usually when folks want the user to have control over field sizing, they stay in the browse mode and use mouse and click controls to trigger the drag sizing of the field. I tried it your way, though, and it works! I just created mouseEnter and mouseLeave handlers to switch between the tools. The only odd part was being able to sneak up on a text field and select it for moving or sizing before it switched me to browse for editing. I did get that to work, though, by increasing the border width and then modifiying the mouse traps to allow for it's thickness before making the switch. Is that what you meant ? In a message dated 3/22/04 10:11:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I mean in an app. On 3/23/04 2:50 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use the Contents section of the Inspector, or change back to the Browse tool. On 23 Mar 2004, at 3:01 pm, Doug Lerner wrote: In an app I'm working on, if I have the select tool chosen and click on a text field I can move the text field, resize it and delete it. But I can't select the text inside the text field in order to modify it. What's the usual way of doing this? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dan Shafer's eBook Problem
Try upgrading to Acrobat Reader v6.0.x when I try to open it, I get the following dialog: There was an error opening this document the viewer cannot decrypt this document ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ReportsPro
Hypercard to Rev Question ... Does Revolution have this capability? Lots of us are in this boat and, unfortunately, it looks like Reports DataPro will not be coming over I can offer you this, however An alternative that some of us are pursuing (thanks to Bobby at ieEntertainment) is to use RichTextFormat (RTF) docs for the layout, custom tags for placing the data, and then our own engines to pump out RTF formatted reports. To be more specific ... generate a layout in Word make up a tag system/language for where you want your data placed save this 'layout' as RTF when generating a report, Rev opens the layout your engine substitutes the data in for the tags save the document with an output name (it's still RTF) pop it open in Word for the user to preview/modify/print Obviously this is more work on our part then slapping together a few fields and hitting save. However, it has a lot of potential. It gives the user editable output which is something one usually has to do with PDFs and the full version of Acrobat. Microsoft, in true Microsoft fashion, has also embraced and extended the RTF format substantially such that within the Word product you can do quite a bit of formatting and RTF will retain it. That's just the tip of the iceberg, of course. Good luck ! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Excel
Is there any way to get Rev *on a Mac* to open an MS Excel document, created in Windows, and extract data? 1 way ... the way i use is to launch an excel macro that pulls all the data from the spreadsheet and writes it out to text ... pretty easy if you can control your spreadsheets or there are some landmarks you can export with it 1 idea ... see if the Office knock-off programs (Open OSXOffice, ThinkFree Office) or Excel reader utilities can be scripted to do the same thing or schmooze them into sharing the dataformat! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Subject: Re: Lindows...
Please don't! So Bush shops at Walmart!!? ;)), ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Create array with variables
repeat with n=1 to 64 get short name of fld n put char 1 of it into x -- x is a letter and we need to switch it to a number put charToNum(x) - 64 into x -- assuming you are using capital letters: A=1, B=2 put char 2 of it into y -- build the transcript instruction so that from Rev's vantage point it is formatted right put put fld n into array[ x comma y ] into transcriptInstruction do transcriptInstruction -- 'do' is a transcript command, see docs end repeat In a message dated 8/24/03 10:20:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have made a 8x8 grid with fields ... named ... (A1, B1.. A2, B2..) and I want to ... repeat with n=1 to 64 put fld n into (arraychar 1 of the short name of fld n)[char 2 of the short name of fld n] end repeat ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: Marketing Rev in Other Worlds
Very good point Dan Shafer. Rev almost needs a separate marketing, packaging, support and documentation approach for the mass market (and getting Apple to feature it or, dare I say, bundle it ... wouldn't hurt). I would not try and remove any of its basic features but rather put a different face on it for them. The existing program is wonderful but it is oriented towards US and not THEM and THEY have a lot more money ! Dan Shafer writes: The real sweet spot market for Revolution, as it was for HyperCard and the other xCard products, is what I have long been referring to as the Inventive User (IU). IUs are people who: 1. Know their computers can do so much more to help them with their work than anyone has yet made them do. 2. Are smart and creative. 3. Can envision the solutions. 4. Are not professionally trained programmers or at least if they were at one point no longer earn their living coding 5. Probably working in a team or workgroup setting where they are the local IT department Those folks -- and there are millions of them -- NEED Revolution. Badly. But they're not going to take the time to tinker and learn the product after opening Revolution and being faced with a blank screen and a bunch of loosely connected floating palettes. Heck, they don't even get a blank stack window let alone a starting point. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: For true beginners
You know what is needed ? The silly little home stack that came with HC. It would simply link the user to the various example projects and other resources. That alone would get so many people started. It could be emphasized in the entry level version along with docs that gave people tips on how to navigate it and then how to get started on expanding the capabilities.
Re: 'Spreadsheet' Woes...
The most interesting thing I have found of late regarding tables is that when you edit a cell, a closeField message is sent to the stack script. Note that it is NOT sent to ... the card script to the field script or even to the the frontscrip (although there is a closeField handler in the frontScript ???) Instead this closeField message just goes to the stack script. Very strange but good to know as it allowed me to recalc the table like a spreadsheet does. If anyone can explain that it would be a good lesson for me to learn! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 'Spreadsheet' Woes...
I'm looking for commands such as On EnterCell, On CloseCell, On ExitCell to initiate calculations on other cells Tables are a mysterious beast in Rev. There is a lot of power there but you are on your own to figure out how to engage it. Fortunately, this list is a salvation ! I suggest you download the archive and search for my email address. Jan and Sarah answered a number of questions that I posed which were similar to yours and they were very helpful! My latest project which is a replacement for our Excel timecard is posted at ... http://www.christophercomputers.com/rev/ Feel free to contact me off list. Good luck. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Table'itis
Try this ... 1. Create a new blank mainstack. 2. Draw a descent sized Field on it 3. Go into the Inspector and check the Table settings (Table Object and Cell Edit) 4. Put some numbers in the first four cells of column one (how about 1, 2 ,3 and 4) 5. Open the message box and execute ... put empty into fld 1 6. The field should go blank 7. Click on the cells into which you previously input data. 8. Like magic your numbers reappear in the cell while it is being edited. Second round ... 1. Open the message and execute put TEST into line 3 of fld 1 2. Test appears in row 3 column 1 3. Click on it and you will see the number you entered and then wiped out earlier and not TEST Third round ... 1. Open the message box and execute ... put empty into fld 1 2. Click on row 2 column 1 3. One of the earlier numbers should appear. Type over it with another number. 4. All the earlier numbers appear. Fourth round ... 1. Use the Popup Menu button and draw a quick button off to the side. 2. Go into the Inspector and give it some Menu Items (how about A, B, C, and D each on a sep. line) 3. Select line 2 of column 1 but don't change anything. 4. Click on your pop up button and watch it party again. I'm very open to suggestions! Feel free to point out something simple like ... set tableNotBuggy to true ... I'm not too proud for anything at this point. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: Table Grumps
1,1:3,17 Decimal:1 What does this actually mean? Assuming this is a kind of address list for cells which will be formatted as Decimal, what happens when I put a non-decimal value into one of these cells - AFAICS, nothing. What then does the 'format... using' do? Can't find anything relevant in the TD. You sure are correct about the anemic documentation. I interpet that line '1,1:3,17 Decimal:1' to be format cell 1,1 to 3,17 using 0.0 format (1 place decimal) That IS working on my little timecard spreadsheet project. That is a work in progress, so sorry if some of it isn't up to snuff, but I thought you might like to see it so I posted it at ... http://www.christophercomputers.com/rev.html
Re: Table Grumps We Are
Yes, I've seen it (if it's Table Fun) and it's illuminating - I didn't mean to criticise it at all. Not that stack ... I put another one there that is my actual project. TableFun was just to test. This one is called TimeCard (http://www.christophercomputers.com/tc1.rev.sit) I promise not to use the OSX version of AOL to respond to the list again. My gosh what a mess it makes ! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
