Re: sneak-peek: calendar object
Grabbed a quick peek. Looks good. I can hardly wait to sneak a peak under the Rev hood! Neat project and I think one that will be very useful. Regards Mark MacKenzie - Original Message - From: "Shao Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mail-List RunRev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 2:43 AM Subject: sneak-peek: calendar object > thought you guys (and girls =) might like to have a pre-look at my next > "object" i've been working on.. > > http://dark.unitz.ca/~shaosean/calendar.gif > > pretty obvious that it's a calendar.. the picture is from the previous build > and does not contain the "go today" feature.. i'm hoping to release the > first version in a couple of days (free and open code of course) > snip ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
3D libraries
Are there any cross platform 3D libraries useable with Revolution? If nothing else, can a 3D object be created in QuickTime by Revolution? I have an idea for a program for cabinetmakers and craftsmen but I would like to add a visualization step for the finished product and that would require a 3D library I think. Any thoughts, suggestions, or best of all teaching examples? Regards Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
System and Heap resources was Re: (no subject)
Perfect introduction. For multimedia projects which are intense and graphic rich, the amount of resources needed on the user's PC is of concern. Techniques such as switching filenames for images, etc. can be used to keep your "memory overhead" within reasonable limits. But, how do you accurately judge the "project overheads" your software is currently demanding? In programs like iShell, a key command during evaluation runtime launch from within the editor causes a series of numbers to appear at bottom left of the window. They represent various system use and project demands parameters. Typically the current usage of memory, the high use reached so far and the settings for the project initially. Of most interest is the system heap requirements which can be later be amended for the program by using an .ini file. Okay, enough about a foreign programme, I needed to use it as an example. Can we follow system use and project high/low demands within Revolution? If so how do we get the information dynamically and how do we use it to design our Revolution projects for the least system impact to get the best project? Regards Mark - Original Message - From: "Geoff Canyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: Re: (no subject) snip > > The system heap, on the other hand, is dynamic, and available to other applications. That's why many newer applications -- including Revolution -- allocate memory that way. As others have said, you can change the behaviour of the standalones you build. > > regards, > > Geoff > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
CNC software by Rev
Hi all. I am starting a personal project of building controlling and driving software done in Rev for an automated drilling machine which I am also building to do various book binding/paper drilling tasks. So, has anyone done or come across any Rev application which deals with CNC machine control? Or, have you any good sites to share which discuss "G code" and other entry CNC computer control programming topics? I intend to use an older computer to do this task. It would be nice if I can use one of my old Macs but if I have to I will use an older Win box. Thanks to all. Mark MacKenzie of CanuckLand ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CNC software by Rev
Great!! I suspected as much. I expect I will have the same problems. However, I need to make this work and will put a fair bit of effort into it. As a "jackleg" tool and die machinist in an other life I might manage to triumph over the vagaries of inanimate objects such as CNC drills taking on a life of their own. Or maybe this will be the beginning of a bad science fiction novel gone real! Can't wait to see your work. Thank you in advance. Mark MacKenzie Mark Wieder wrote: Mark- I started on a CNC controller some time last year. I'll dig out what I've got and send it to you. The hard part isn't figuring out the CNC protocol (the "G" commands and such) but getting the controller part right so you don't snap off drill bits or have things flying across the room. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CNC software by Rev
I can't speak for Mark Weider but I "wish" to use some of my older Macs for this task. I remember looking into this a number of years ago and something about a stand alone adapter being required for Macs which I think would run from the ADB connnection. I will look into this in any case and if you like let you know. It may be best to put up a bit of web site for this rather than add to the list traffic but in any case email me from time to time for information if you wish. On other fronts of this project I am acquiring a CNC X,Y table and X axis column set up. I will marry this to a bench top drill and custom designed toggle clamp holding table. Adding a controller board and then writing the software and debugging it are pretty much the rest of the project. So you can see that it might take a while. I am actually aiming to use a Mac Plus I picked up a few weeks ago just to see if I can and what Rev is capable of doing when pushed or stretched on "marginal" platforms and operating systems. I think it would be kind of cute to see an old Mac all in one running this rig. I have several other older computers as most must have and they are both Mac and Windows and if I have to Linux. Mark MacKenzie Thomas McGrath III wrote: Hello guys, Is this possible on the Mac? I would love to 'find' a cnc and work on some ideas I have. Can you guys let me know what you are up to with this. Thanks Tom On Jul 8, 2004, at 5:41 PM, Mark MacKenzie wrote: Great!! I suspected as much. I expect I will have the same problems. However, I need to make this work and will put a fair bit of effort into it. As a "jackleg" tool and die machinist in an other life I might manage to triumph over the vagaries of inanimate objects such as CNC drills taking on a life of their own. Or maybe this will be the beginning of a bad science fiction novel gone real! Can't wait to see your work. Thank you in advance. Mark MacKenzie Mark Wieder wrote: Mark- I started on a CNC controller some time last year. I'll dig out what I've got and send it to you. The hard part isn't figuring out the CNC protocol (the "G" commands and such) but getting the controller part right so you don't snap off drill bits or have things flying across the room. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CNC software by Rev
Hi Ken. You may be correct on this. In fact, I think you are. I picked up this particular unit for old time nostalgia. In the after glow of which I thought I would experiment with it hoping that Rev might be coaxed to run on it without modification to the Mac. However, reality often bites. In seeing how early a Mac unit might work well with Rev and this CNC project I may be stuck with using a 6100 model because of the limitations you are pointing out. I am by first training an archaeologist and sometimes can't let go of a functioning past! In any case the CNC project is a very practically based real world project and will be made to work on the first reasonable equipment platform which may be an old Windows box. But, I would then work back through my Mac inventory. It seems that a small, practical CNC program for the Mac which will run on pre-OS X computers might be useful to some people I have begun to run across in my searches. Ken Norris wrote: Hi mark, Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:44:15 -0600 From: Mark MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CNC software by Rev I am actually aiming to use a Mac Plus I picked up a few weeks ago just to see if I can and what Rev is capable of doing when pushed or stretched on "marginal" platforms and operating systems. I think it would be kind of cute to see an old Mac all in one running this rig. === Question: How will you run even a Rev standalone on a machine which cannot have more than 8MB of RAM? In fact, I've never seen a Rev - built app run on one of those. It'll be interesting to see if it's at all possible. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CNC software by Rev
Hi Tom. You are well into an area I would like to go one day. I have been looking at controlling a panorama head for photo work. I am very interested in what you are doing with telescopes as well. My short research so far leads me to want to investigate using the printer port, feeding the signals through a black box (with circuit board) and then to the particular units I wish to control. Although adding another hardware component to the path this might simplify the Rev work. Glad to have your experience and knowledge on board. Mark M Thomas McGrath III wrote: Mark M, I don't know how related this might be but I have been playing with robot controllers and X10 stuff for a while and also with Telescope software. Anyway, One thing I have found for any serial devices is that the key serial to usb issue is using the Kensington "High Speed" serial adapter. I tried all kinds of other adapters for serial to USB but that is the only one that works right. I also use Virtual PC and it recognizes the high speed serial adapter for my GPS etc The other adapters would work sometimes and others not and this lesson was hard come by for me. FWIW I know if you are using an old mac that you are looking for ADB but I don't know where or what to look for for that. I did splice and rewire a few serial adapters and I think I remember splicing a 25 foot ADB once that 'they' said shouldn't work for my web cam, but it did. I am going to research this as well. I want to do some metal etching and clay/cement/stone etching with at least an XY controller. Thanks Tom Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 2.5 Script printing problems
I have looked in bugzilla but have not been able to find a report on this problem. However, thay may be a result of my unfamiliarity with buzilla. Using Rev 2.5 (release 1) with the script window open I get garbled text lines when I print the script out. This is on Windows XP and using a networked Xerox Phaser 8400 printer. If I copy and paste the script text into another program such as Microsoft Works and then print there is no problem. The problem exists within Rev only. It appears as if some of the formatting is not being followed. For example, "on preopencard" becomes garbled so that the first three letters are a composite of five letters and spaces so that the result is "###reopencard". Tabs do not seem to affect the printing it is just the first word after a return or new sentence. I had a look through the list and didn't see anthing gerund. Has anyone encountered this and more importantly fixed it? Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Oneway resizable script windows
Using the new rev 2.5 when I open an object's script and first mouse touch the script window it jumps and resizes. If the original script window was larger than a certain size, it resizes automatically to this new smaller size. I can change the width but no the max heigtht of the script window. It now has a maximum vertical height of perhaps 25 lines of script. I can resize it vertically shorter but not longer even when the script contained is much taller and I have to use the scoll bar to see the entire script. I have reinstalled Rev 2.5 using the fresh download from RunRev and no success This a new development within the last day or so. Rev 2.5 when first intalled did not show these problems. Older projects or newly created ones all show the same problem. Is there a pref setting stored somewhere I can get at manually and make appropriate changes, do you think? I am really getting frustrated with this one. Thank you Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Oneway resizable windows (now fixed)
After reinstalling Rev to no avail and creating test projects each of which wouldn't allow vertical resizing greater than a total of about 25 lines, this began to extend to Rev tool stacks such as the application browser! One more stab at it was to create a new stack which exhibited all the horrible resize crankiness. Again I set and reset the stack resize property and the live resizing, etc. Then out of desperation I added from the object library the windows window resize widget and played with it. Saved the stack. Quit Rev. Started Rev. created a new stack and realized that all tool and script windows plus the new stack were mouse resizeable within the development environment. Hooray!! Now what went wrong originally? I didn't script anything to do that or play with any controls except to reset Rev. preferences to their default. Go figure. However, for those that find themselves in a similar pickle for now try creating a new project and adding the resize window control widget, save, quit and reopen. Mark MacKenzie Mark MacKenzie wrote: Using the new rev 2.5 when I open an object's script and first mouse touch the script window it jumps and resizes. If the original script window was larger than a certain size, it resizes automatically to this new smaller size. I can change the width but no the max height of the script window. It now has a maximum vertical height of perhaps 25 lines of script. I can resize it vertically shorter but not longer even when the script contained is much taller and I have to use the scroll bar to see the entire script. snip ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.5 Script printing problems
Thanks Mark. Went there, read it, added my comments and voted for it. Mark MacKenzie Mark Wieder wrote: Mark- Bugzilla #1377. http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1377 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quit next action after closing stack
I have a stack whose destroystack is set to true. In a handler I check to see if we are in the development evironment or not and if it is the development environment it simply closes the stack. However, in Rev. 2.5 after this stack closes the next time Rev is interacted with say to open a stack, it quits out and has to be opened again. A quick check of bugzilla doesn't show a similar entry however, I may have missed it. Anyone had similar problems and if so how did you solve it or not? Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revSmartSave problems
Hi. I am returning to develop in Revolution after some time away. I am using Rev. 2.5.1 (laterst version). I cannot figure out how to implement the revSmartSave stack. If I choose it from the Development:Plugins Menu, the stack is frozen and won't let me select a time interval. Neither can I close the stack. I have to use Cntrol/Alt/Delet to close RunRev in order to start again. I have looked through the documentation and the list archives with no success. Some people appear to be able to use this plugin although they appear to be on Macs. I am on Windows XP on a fast machine with plenty of ram and hard disk space. All help is very much appreciated! Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Bitstream VERA font, the first truely crossplatform solution
Just went to Bitstream and searched the whole site and then just within the fonts for "Vera" and came up with zero results for the font but plenty of hits within news releases. However, the news releas stuff seemed to be useless. I remain very interested in seeing this font but at the moment can't find it. I will try a www search and see what happens. Perhaps Bitstream as a commercial entity doesn't want too much publicity for a free font on its web site. Mark MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cross platform fonts was a nightmare because there where no free fonts freely avalaible for Windows, Macintosh and Linux. But thanks to Bitstream, things are changing. Bitstream decided to deliver freely with a gnu licence the vera font ; it is a full set (serif sans and mono, roman italic and bold) of trueptype fonts. These font are of a very high level of readability, even at 9 or 10 points. They equal or surpasse the best "enhanced screen" font that where already on the market. These font are freely avalaible for commercial use. It could an opportunity for Revolution to embedd these fonts in all versions of Revolution. Claude Lemmel ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Bitstream VERA font, the first truely crossplatform solution
Okay, after chasing a web search back to Bitstream the following URL will show you screen samples of the Vera font. http://bitstream.com/categories/products/fonts/vera/ Mark Mark MacKenzie wrote: Just went to Bitstream and searched the whole site and then just within the fonts for "Vera" and came up with zero results for the font but plenty of hits within news releases. However, the news releas stuff seemed to be useless. I remain very interested in seeing this font but at the moment can't find it. I will try a www search and see what happens. Perhaps Bitstream as a commercial entity doesn't want too much publicity for a free font on its web site. Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to go to newly cloned card?
I have been playing with this it feels like all day and simply cannot see my way through it. Aagh. My most recent iteration is: on mouseUp if there is a card "Empty Card" of this stack then go card "Empty Card" end if if there is no card "Empty Card" of this stack then clone card "BulletWeightsMasterCard" of this stack set the name of it to "Empty Card" go card "Empty Card" of this stack end if end mouseUp For several iterations now I can successsfully create a cloned card of the target card BUT I cannot navigate to it to allow the user to begin filling in the information. It has got to be something simple I am missing but I am missing it and so must call upon the list to help me in my ignorance and frustration. Thank you in advance. Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Was: How to go to newly cloned card? shoudl be "Timing clone issues"
Hopefully, this is the final email on this subject. I am still having error problems with the suggested handler. Timing does seem to be an issue here after the cloning of a referenced card. What works is to break up the handler with a send in 30 milliseconds message as follows: on mouseUp if there is a card "Empty Card" of this stack then go card "Empty Card" else clone card "BulletWeightsMasterCard" of this stack set the name of this card to "Empty Card" --go card "Empty Card" in 30 milliseconds -- Rev 2.1.2 throws an error highlighting the 30 with this construction send marchingOrder to me in 30 milliseconds end if end mouseUp on marchingOrder go card "Empty Card" end marchingOrder This works and does so consistently without error. Odd little work around. Regards Mark Mark MacKenzie wrote: Great! That timing clue probably explains the "no such object" type error message I was sometimes getting. I like the use of the "else" as well. An earlier iteration used such a construction but as the frustrating day wore on I dropped back to using more familiar simple constructions that just had to work. I will incorporate both of these suggestions. Thank you Thomas and once again to Rob. Regards Mark MacKenzie Thomas McGrath III wrote: On Feb 7, 2004, at 5:45 PM, Mark MacKenzie wrote: My most recent iteration is: on mouseUp if there is a card "Empty Card" of this stack then go card "Empty Card" -- end if -- if there is no card "Empty Card" of this stack -- then else clone card "BulletWeightsMasterCard" of this stack set the name of it to "Empty Card" go card "Empty Card" of this stack in 30 milliseconds end if end mouseUp I had intermittent problems with the go card right after the setting of the name and was told to use the in 30 milliseconds which seems to work all the time for me. The else just replaces three lines of code. :-) Tom Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Stack no long resizable?
I have a stack that is no longer resizeable in the development platform or when in the browse cursor form. I can change its dimensions within the property inspector (stack) and the stack resizes and stays that way but I cannot grab the window frame and resize it.. The min settings are each at 32 while the max is at 575 and 600 pixels. The stack mode is toplevel. It is a substack of another stack which is in palette mode. The can't delete function is enabled but the stack is left in modifiable form within the property inspector. I did once use that object palette rezier object in a test. Ran into problems with it and deleted it from the stack. I cannot find any scripting which would disable the direct resizable character of this stack. Can anyone suggest how I can effectively get this back without having to input numbers into the respective property inspector? Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How To SCRAM Revolution when it is looping?
Occasionally Revolution will get into some kind of circular loop and I have to use Cntrl-Alt-Delete and task manager to abort the program. Hopefully I have saved not to long before. I cannot find anything in the documentation (so far) which would indicate that stopping such a circularity is possible. So, is it possible and if so how should I do it? The SCRAM reference is borrowed from nuclear reactor operation of course as this is exactly what I feel I am needing to do! Thanks Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Activate Rev.
Yes you are correct I think. Please see this URL for more information from the horse's mouth. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/scriptcenter/scrptfaq.asp There is a table on that page which details OS and what works or not. There is even a promise of future development of a script which will query the host system for details on whether other scripts will run or not. Windows installers such as SetUpFactory from Indigo Rose which I have used a lot, will poll the windows system and allow separate, Boolean logic driven installs of ancillary software. However, another caveat when considering Windows or VB scripts for activating Revolution is that on my system (XP with McCafee) the antivirus software throws a suspicious script activity warning requiring "training" by the user. Not a good user/client confidence building exercise! So, I don't think the current scripting ideas do what was originally wanted. Looking at a direct comand line script may be better. Regards Mark MacKenzie Christopher Mitchell wrote: Regarding Windows Scripting Host, isn't it optional on the system install? I seem to recall many times having to select it to be installed... Just thinking out loud that this might be an issue if one becomes dependent on its presence, unlike Applescript which is fully integrated, and used frequently as a result. I could be wrong here! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Array, Array, who has got the array?
Good evening (or morning). My current project could probably stand to have at least one array in it to handle complicated groupings of data. However, I have never used one or created one before. I looked at the excellent Frogsbreath.rev project but quite frankly couldn't undrestand the actual workings and how they might apply to my work. Does anyone have a "Dummie's" introduction to arrays? What they are, how they can be made to work and how best to design them? A practical tutorial would be nice. I have tried to look into the documentation but it is fragmentary and difficult for a rank beginner (as far as arrays and matraices go) to grasp readily. Any help greatfully accepted. Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More scrolling images
Forgive me for jumping in at this point but if your are looking for a way to scroll a very large image within a graphic with full user interaction take a look at an old multimedia project of mine on the download page. "Thumbscroller" How old? Well it is way down the page. If it needs updating for the current Rev let me know. Mark MacKenzie Ken Norris wrote: Howdy, OK, I now know how to scroll an image in a stack window, _but_ Is it possible to scroll a large image inside a graphic? Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More scrolling images
Forgive me for jumping in at this point but if your are looking for a way to scroll a very large image within a graphic with full user interaction take a look at an old multimedia project of mine on the download page. "Thumbscroller" How old? Well it is way down the page. If it needs updating for the current Rev let me know. Mark MacKenzie Ken Norris wrote: Howdy, OK, I now know how to scroll an image in a stack window, _but_ Is it possible to scroll a large image inside a graphic? Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Mark "Matador Mac" MacKenzie Duelist for Hire Have Guns, Will Travel SASS #49304 Alberta Frontier Shootist #177 Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation, Handgun Club #69 electric telegraph: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Memory usage
Is there a way to watch memory usage as a revoltuion program operates? I had this feature in another program and would like to have it in Revolution. For now I would be grateful if another system program or applet would get this information for me. I am developing on Windows XP. I have looked at the task manager cum CPU usage graphs and they are not what I am looking for. Regards Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Close stacks and remove from memory
Okay, I need some help. I thought this would be straightforward for me. It is probably straight forward for many others but this is eluding me. I have a project with one main stack and eight substacks. One of the substacks is a paletted navigation tool stack which floats above the other windows (named "Navigator"). I wish to catch and handle any close stack or shutdown request which the main stack receives and force it to be saved and then removed from memory upon closing. The destroystack property is set to true for the main stack and all the substacks. I have scripted a stack script residing on the main stack as follows: on shutdownRequest answer question "Are you sure you want to quit?" with "Yes" or "No" if it is "Yes" then save this stack if "Navigator" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Navigator" end if pass shutdownRequest end if close this stack end shutdownRequest When this executes it leaves the main stack open even though its destroystack property is true. What should I do differently? Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
If exists question
Okay, I have been wrestling with this one long enough that I don't need a haircut for another month! I create by cloning from a "master" card a new card. During the cloning I capture the new card's abbreviated ID and change its card name to "EmptyCard". The new card's abbr ID is put into global gNewCardID Then, at the end of this handler: wait 30 milliseconds -- put in to allow Rev to catch up with functions if exists(gNewCardID) then go to gNewCardID put emtpy into gNewCardID end if Rev can't find this new card. I have captured the global gNewCardID into "msg" and it updates and shows the newly created card abb ID. I have tried this handler with the card name as well with the same results. When this function doesn't work it is usually within the IDE even with the Development Tools suspended. The question is, I guess, has anyone found peculiarities or idiosyncracies with Rev's "exists" function and how did you get around them or trap the errors for correction? I have looked to no avail in the archives. (BTW, although not new to revolution I admit to not being as well versed in using the debugging tools as I would like to be and perhaps need to be.) Regards Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Empty a list of globals
Hit a bit of a stumper for me. At preopencard time I need to clear a bunch of globals. I created the following handler and it doesn't seem to clear the globals involved. In a succeeding handler they keep their previous values. Am I doing something fundamentally wrong? preOpenCard put "gBulletCalibre,gBulletDesign,gBulletSizedDiam,gBulletNomWeight,gBulletLotCustom" into gGlobalsToEmpty repeat with x = 1 to the number of items of gGlobalsToEmpty put empty into item x of gGlobalsToEmpty end repeat end preOpenCard When faced with a series of globals to reset to zero or empty how do you do it with a minimum of scripting? Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Multimedia Project on a school server question
Hi. I am porting a multimedia project over to Revolution and tweaking it as I go. The intended market is the local and provincial educational systems. Their preference is for titles which can be served from a remote server in their school to all the desktops in the library or classroom. The working seats for this project are approximately 35 per class. I have not designed or produced for this before. Can a standard Rev project be simply put on their server and used by from 30 to 35 kids at the same time? If not, what needs to be done to make this possible? If yes, can the number of concurrent sessions be limited to say 35? Has anyone done this before and care to share their experiences? Regards Mark MacKenzie ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
text into a tabstopped field
Hello. I need to put a DB query result into a RunRev stack field which has tabstops at 62,123,282,467,606,822,911. I don't wish to just put the query result into the field as this overwrites all current information in that field. I just want to update portions of this field. For example I would like to put "some information" in field "SomeField" between its first and second tabstops. In some cases the query result would be a single number while in other cases it could be a short phrase. I am stumped. Regards Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RR Forum Administrator Contact info needed
Hi people. Just tried to log in over at the RR forums. No luck. I had already registered but did not receive my followup email. So went to see what was what. Tried to register again. No dice, my email was logged as being already used. Then tried to use the lost password function but it wouldn't let me do anything because my account had not been activated. Okay, tried to find the administrator contact information but couldn't find this (it may be there, but by now I am a tad frustrated). Tried to click on several of the usernames listed in the general announcements open forum which I know to be connected with RunRev and of course I couldn't send them an email because I couldn't log in to use the private email/notification function. Sooo, there needs to be a prominently displayed contact for the forum administrator and if it is there I need a seeing eye dog who can type on my keyboard! At any rate I would like to contact the RR forum administrator to get my account activated and that is why I am posting on this list as they are likely to be members here as well. Sorry for the slightly off topic posting. Regards Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing www.pastink.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RR Forum Administrator Contact info needed
Thank you, but yes I do. Mark > From: Luis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], How to use Revolution > > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:10:58 +0100 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: RR Forum Administrator Contact info needed > > Hiya, > > You got Cookies on? > > Cheers, > > Luis. > > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RR Forum Administrator Contact info needed
Hi Lynn. My username is WayPastInk. > From: "Lynn Fredricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], How to use Revolution > > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:56:10 -0700 > To: "'How to use Revolution'" > Subject: RE: RR Forum Administrator Contact info needed > > Hi Mark, > > What is your user name? > > Best regards, > > > Lynn Fredricks > Worldwide Business Operations > Runtime Revolution, Ltd > > Regards Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing www.pastink.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Standalone app as Frankensteinian Monster
Hi. After a few month's work I am debugging the stand alone side of my application. So far the app works really well and with a complacent gleam in my mind's eye I click on the quit button of the main stack and my application won't die! The program is in two parts really. There is a Rev generated front end and an sqllite data base using the alt3sql "dll" (licensed copy, my own). After days of coding tweaks, etc. I think I need a refresher course in scripting the shutting down and successful quitting of an application. The application quits normally albeit a touch slowly as it saves various stacks (only when in the development environment, stacks are not saved except for a preferences stack which is outside the standalone in a set of "extra files") I have the following code in a closeStackRequest handler in my topmost (main) application stack ( I have commented out various activities to try and find the stoppage): on closeStackRequest -- confirm whether to close the window answer question "Are you sure you want to quit the entire program?" with "Yes" or "No" if it is "Yes" then if the environment is "development" then leavingDevelopment pass closeStackRequest end if if the environment is "standalone application" then --quietDisconnectDB --leavingApplication -- quit --close stack "Navigator" KillAllPendingMessages --pass closeStackRequest quit end if end if end closeStackRequest on KillAllPendingMessages --courtesy of the list archives repeat for each line i in the pendingMessages cancel (item 1 of i) end repeat end KillAllPendingMessages on leavingApplication if "Navigator" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Navigator" end if if "Bullets" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Bullets" end if if "Attic" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Attic" end if if "AboutStack" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "AboutStack" end if if "Calendar" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Calendar" end if if "Primer" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Primer" end if if "Suppliers" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Suppliers" end if if "Brass" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Brass" end if if "Propellant" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Propellant" end if --if "Loads" is among the lines of the openStacks --then -- close stack "Loads" --end if if "Loads" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Loads" end if if "Help" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "Help" end if save stack "ExtraFiles/ReloadingPrefs.rev" if "ReloadingPrefs" is among the lines of the openStacks then close stack "ExtraFiles/ReloadingPrefs.rev" end if end leavingApplication Any help, insight, pointers to working similar applications which do evince a Frankensteinian lineage greatfully received. Regards Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone app as Frankensteinian Monster
I tried stripping things down to this script. Then after that wouldn't work I inserted a script to cancel pending messages, still no good. That leaves, in my mind, the question of running externals. Would having an opend connection to an sQL database through the alt3SQL dll cause this hang? I tried inserting another script which closed this connection but on second thought didn't check for more than one connection. I wonder how to do that? Thank you Dar and Mark for your help so far however, Frankenstein's creation (application) still lives. No poblems in quitting out while in the development environment. By the way I am using Version 2.5.1 on Windows XP. Currently there is no way I can upgrade to the current version so must make this work in what I have. Regards Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: How to use Revolution > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:31:01 EDT > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Subject: Re: Standalone app as Frankensteinian Monster > > Hi Mark > > Well, it looks like you are doing a lot of unnecessary stuff. If you want to > 'quit', all pendingMessages will terminate and all stacks will close > automatically. If I read you right you need you only need... > > on closeStackRequest -- confirm whether to close the window > answer question "Are you sure you want to quit the entire program?" with > "Yes" or "No" > if it is "No" then exit closeStackrequest > if "ReloadingPrefs" is among the lines of the openStacks then > save stack "ExtraFiles/ReloadingPrefs.rev" > close stack "ExtraFiles/ReloadingPrefs.rev" > end if > pass closeStackrequest > end closeStackrequest > > Or am I missing something obvious here? > > /H > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone app as Frankensteinian Monster
Hello Devin. Not having much luck so far I stripped the close handler to the following: on closeStackRequest -- confirm whether to close the window answer question "Are you sure you want to quit the entire program?" with "Yes" or "No" if it is "Yes" then quit end if end closeStackRequest However, the application still does not close when in the stand alone. I am stumped. Regards Mark MacKenzie Devin Asay wrote: On Oct 26, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Mark MacKenzie wrote: I tried stripping things down to this script. Then after that wouldn't work I inserted a script to cancel pending messages, still no good. That leaves, in my mind, the question of running externals. Would having an opend connection to an sQL database through the alt3SQL dll cause this hang? I tried inserting another script which closed this connection but on second thought didn't check for more than one connection. I wonder how to do that? Thank you Dar and Mark for your help so far however, Frankenstein's creation (application) still lives. No poblems in quitting out while in the development environment. By the way I am using Version 2.5.1 on Windows XP. Currently there is no way I can upgrade to the current version so must make this work in what I have. I always just issue the quit command if I know the intent is to completely exit the program. That has killed my monsters on XP in the past. Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding the complexities. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone app as Frankensteinian Monster
Hi Ken. Thanks, however, upon trying this, the d**n thing still won't die. I think I shall have to strip all (mainly) development functions out of the main stack/splash screen and start again with the stand alone. Let you know how things turn out with this evening's coding. So close, so far, so frustrating. Kindest regards to you and the list. Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing www.pastink.com Ken Ray wrote: On 10/26/06 8:48 PM, "Mark MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip Try this: on closeStackRequest -- confirm whether to close the window answer question "Are you sure you want to quit the entire program?" with "Yes" or "No" if it is "Yes" then lock messages-- Added line quit end if end closeStackRequest My bet is there's some message firing off during closing that's not getting handled and so it is interrupting normal quitting operations. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone app as Frankensteinian Monster..SOLVED!
Well, time to fess up. I thought I had taken care of all of the simple, obvious stuff. However, I found another handler with the exact same coding for closing my application which I had missed and which was actually trying to close the application. All my troubleshooting efforts were directed to another handler. Duhh! Thanks to all for your time and help. Nothing is broken or strange in the IDE. Regards Mark MacKenzie Past Ink Publishing www.pastink.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Clipboard Anomally [BUG]?
I need to be able to do this as well, for a registration stack function. I have awful trouble with the copy and paste function (to/from clipboard) not working as it should. You have described it perfectly. Regards Mark MacKenzie J. Landman Gay wrote: I restarted WinXP, copied some text in Notepad, closed Notepad, reopened Notepad, and pasted. It worked. Then I relaunched Revolution, made a new stack with a field, and pasted. And that worked too. So it isn't consistent. Today's test seems to show that Rev doesn't automatically clear the clipboard. I wish I could pin down when it fails, because I have a standalone with a registration dialog that users paste a serial number into. If they copy the serial from an email and launch my app, it only pastes sporadically. If the dialog is already open when they flip over to email to copy, it pastes every time. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Email Client (Outlook Express) won't start after console error
Hello all. After having a program error reported and then quitting the development IDE my Outlook Express won't start. I seem to remember some years ago having a similar problem and there was a registry key for Outlook which had to be reset so that it wouldn't run in invisible messaging mode. Can someone point me to this correction please. I have been searching for several days and can't find the right information. Thank you in advance. Mark MacKenzie Art Conservator & Wet Plate Photographer Alcalde, New Mexico No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.0.10 - 10.100.039). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Email Client (Outlook Express) won't start after console
Hello Ken. I have been living with this situation for awhile and don't have the exact wording. While coding in the IDE (Windows XP Pro) and using 2.5* and then "running" the program within the IDE to check functionality of the "error" reporting of the finished program an error was encountered. The email client facilitated reporting mechanism came up and stupidly without either cancelling or sending the reported error I quit the program by quitting the IDE. Since doing that Outlook Express 5 will not start up as an email program and acts as if it is "hung up". Some years back this same thing happened to me and it turned out that Outlook was "stuck' in the waiting to report the error mode. If I remember correctly that was fixed by a registry tweak. Unfortunately I can't find my notes on that little issue if I made any. I do remember that it was someone from the Rev list (old list) who came up with this explanation and fix for me. I have searched the list as far back as I could, the web and mickeysoft without success. I don't want to reinstall Outlook Express at this time. I hope this helps explain the situation better. Mark MacKenzie Art Conservator & Wet Plate Photographer Alcalde, New Mexico No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.0.10 - 10.100.041). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Finding and replacing "numbers" in calendar day field
Hi all. I have been playing with the tutorial calendar and am having trouble adding a to me useful feature. I have a list field where day events are put along with the short date. I can grab the day number from this short date, line by line. Where I am having trouble is after finding the needed day date in the calendar day field (same as in tutorial) I am stuck with how to replace the date number with a phrase consisting of the same day date number and the word "Event". The end effect is that after a note is added, the calendar date will show instead of "28" the phrase "28Event" as a visual reminder that a note or event has been added to the overall calendar. I am just missing something. I have been using find and replace but to no avail. How would you advise doing this? Regards Mark MacKenzie Art Conservator & Wet Plate Photographer Alcalde, New Mexico ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Finding and replacing "numbers" in calendar day field
Hi Joe and Sarah. I had been working with the find and then replace functions but kept getting an insurmountable pattern error message. Sarah, your suggestion worked like a charm. the code snippet is as follows: on WriteEvent put the number of lines of field "Month Events List" into tFieldLines set the itemdelimiter to "/" repeat with x = 1 to tFieldLines put item 2 of line x of field "Month Events List" into tDayNeeded put tDayNeeded && " Event" into tToPaste find empty find tDayNeeded in field "Dates" of group "Main_Group" put tToPaste into foundChunk -- replace tDayNeeded with tToPaste in field "Dates" of group "Main_Group" end repeat end WriteEvent This works like a charm. But has also left me with another question. Thank you Mark MacKenzie Art Conservator & Wet Plate Photographer Alcalde, New Mexico ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Buttons missing images in stand alone
Hi all. Back in the saddle after some time away from Rev. I am using Rev. 3 on Windows XP. Buttons created in Button Gadget Pro and added directly to the current Rev project (electronic calendar) show fine in the development environment but not when testing a stand alone version. The button images all show in the project image library for the main stack containing the buttons. Typical image ID is 1260 for example. I am not sure where to go from here in tracking down why the buttons images don't show in the stand alone app. The buttons exist in the stand alone app and work however their appropriate images do not and so they present as working but invisible buttons. Neat trick but not very useful at the moment? Regards Mark MacKenzie Art Conservator & Wet Plate Photographer Alcalde, New Mexico ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Penultimate outcome of "Constraining movement"
Well, the training wheels are most definitely still on BUT, a first cut of a demo stack is working for the "ThumbNail Scroller". Scripts are all available, some comments but not enough of them. Great loads of thanks to all who helped by contributing code examples and critiques to this former thread. The second phase is where this becomes a real tool. But, if anyone is interested in taking it for a test drive I will send it to you. Just give me some feedback if you can on any improvements in coding, etc. Send me an email address if you can handle a 1.5 meg rev stack (this uses .png image files for real life test). If there is enough interest I will put it on my ftp site and possibly set up upload and share type of system. As I mentioned before, once finished it will be offered as a demo and teaching stack as well as a free multimedia element creation tool. As always, regards to the list. Mark MacKenzie Chief Techno-Mage (most definitely not for Rev yet!!) Historical Treasures & Ancient Arts www.digitalheritage.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: set the filled of last graphic to false
Chipp, I was experimenting with: set the filled of graphic xlrf to false But found that the graphic then would not respond to mouse clicks as I wished it to. If you wish it to be transparent and still respond to normal mouse clicks without selecting it first then working with the inks property might work for you. If so, you can try: set the ink of graphic xlrf to noOp Regards Mark - Original Message - From: "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:12 AM Subject: set the filled of last graphic to false > is there a way to do this in the RR IDE? I'm sure there is, but I can't find > it for the life of me;-) > > thanks, > > Chipp > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: set the filled of last graphic to false
True but I get around that in a current project by using a box graphic (opaque property ) but with ink set to noOp, with a surrounding box (acting as a frame). This surrounding box is set to be not opaque but with margins of 4. I set the colour of this to red for clarity's sake. I group these two graphics and handle them as one unit by handling the group. This may sound a tad convoluted but it allows the transparent area inside the frame to receive mouse related actions. It is really very handy. Regards Mark - Original Message - From: "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 4:30 AM Subject: RE: set the filled of last graphic to false > Mark, > > Thanks. What I was wanting was to create 'hollow' rectangle graphics for use > in 'decorating' windows. If i set the ink property, it will affect the both > the rectangle inside and the outside line. I can do it from the msg but I > was looking for a button. > > hmmm > > Chipp > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark > MacKenzie (Shaw) > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 12:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: set the filled of last graphic to false > > > Chipp, I was experimenting with: > > set the filled of graphic xlrf to false > > But found that the graphic then would not respond to mouse clicks as I > wished it to. If you wish it to be transparent and still respond to normal > mouse clicks without selecting it first then working with the inks property > might work for you. > > If so, you can try: > > set the ink of graphic xlrf to noOp > > Regards Mark > > - Original Message - > From: "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:12 AM > Subject: set the filled of last graphic to false > > > > is there a way to do this in the RR IDE? I'm sure there is, but I can't > find > > it for the life of me;-) > > > > thanks, > > > > Chipp > > > > ___ > > use-revolution mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Disappearing dialog
I have a simple quit script on a mouseUp handler in a button. on mouseUp answer "Are you sure you want to quit?" with "No" or "OK" if it is "OK" then quit end if end mouseUp This works like a charm in the Rev editor environment. However it will not work in the Rev player environment. No dialog appears. I have checked for locked messages, etc. and not got anywhere. Win ME Rev. 1.1 Am I simply doing something wrong here or do I need to look further for a bug or other scripting defect? Regards Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
