Accessing IE history for 'Last Week'

2007-07-24 Thread Mark Powell
specialfolderpath(34) is the folder where Microsoft stores browser
history.  Going to that directory in Explorer, you can click through
'Last Week' and see the folder equivalents of what you see in the
History pane in Internet Explorer.  

My question is how can I set the defaultfolder to see inside this 'Last
Week' entity, so that I can collect history data and do something with
it.

Thanks in advance

Mark

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Firefox equivalents for specialfolderpath(6) et. al.

2007-07-24 Thread Mark Powell
Ken Ray has a dynamite resource that cross references Microsoft CSIDL
constants to specialFolderPath equivalents.

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file010.htm

A few of these are folders where IE stores favorites, cookies, history,
cached files, etc.  My question is, is there something analagous for the
counterpart folders that Firefox creates?  For example, if I wanted to
fetch Firefox bookmarks, is there a path statement that works across all
localized Windows OS'es?

Thanks very much for your help

Mark

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RE: Copying files and Folder permissions

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Powell
HI Nic:

Can't speak to your overall question, but did want to alert you to
detailed files bug in 2.8 that has been discussed here, in case you have
not encountered it.  If you use v 2.8, modification dates start showing
1969 due to a misplaced zero in item 5.  Plus there is a similar issue
with the permissions item.  

Mark
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RE: Enabling a Menu

2007-03-26 Thread Mark Powell
Joe,

You and I are both veterans from the Hypercard days, where there was no
such animal as custom properties.  Ergo, we are old dogs that need to
learn new tricks.  I know this in my bones, but try as I might I have
never segued over to this feature...instead staying in the comfort zone
of globals.  I know I am on the wrong path every time I open a stack
script and see, like, a thousand global declarations in the header.
What Jacque says is the honest truth...I will do better...I will do
betterI will do better

Mark


-Original Message-
Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote:
Not only that, but you will almost never use a global variable 
again. ;)


-Original Message-
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Don't know when I'll ever get around to using this feature, but 
once I've digested it, I feel pretty sure that it's amazing 
qualities will hit me right between the eyes!


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RE: Methodology forprogramming challenge

2007-03-26 Thread Mark Powell
If I were given the choice, I would write to external HTML, using a
combination of ROWSPAN, css, and carefully foundried images.  All things
considered, it does not seem that hard to do, if in fact you have a say
on how to create the output and print quality of non-vector graphics
were acceptable.

Mark
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RE: Bkgnd process that returns immediately

2007-03-19 Thread Mark Powell
  put start /MAX C:\foo.html  C:\foo.txt into MyCom  
  set the hideConsoleWindows to true
  get  start cmd /c   quote  MyCom  quote 
  get shell(it)

To keep the console window from flashing in the snippet above, Xavier
responded


  use start /b to hide the window.


I have tried this, in both line 1 and line 3, and in various ordering.
But the console still flashes.  What am I doing wrong?  

What is the entire single line of script with the /b in the recommended
position?

Gratefully,

Mark
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RE: Bkgnd process that returns immediately

2007-03-19 Thread Mark Powell
 Phil Davis wrote:
 One thing you might find helpful is the 'start' Help info. 

Yes, I have done that.  What it indicates is that /B is an optional
argument to start that starts an application without creating a new
window.  But what is not clear is, which of the two lines where 'start'
is used actually get the argument, and how is the full line supposed to
read.

   put start /MAX C:\foo.html  C:\foo.txt into MyCom   
   set the hideConsoleWindows to true 
   get  start cmd /c   quote  MyCom  quote  
   get shell(it)

Some things I have tried for line 1 that do not work
put start /B /MAX C:\foo.html  C:\foo.txt into MyCom
put start /MAX /B C:\foo.html  C:\foo.txt into MyCom
put start C:\foo.html  /MAX /B  C:\foo.txt into MyCom
put start /b /MAX C:\foo.html  C:\foo.txt into MyCom
put start /MAX /b C:\foo.html  C:\foo.txt into MyCom
put start C:\foo.html  /MAX /b  C:\foo.txt into MyCom

and some attempts at line 3
get  start cmd /c /b   quote  MyCom  quote
get  start cmd /b /c   quote  MyCom  quote
get  start cmd /c /B   quote  MyCom  quote
get  start cmd /B /c   quote  MyCom  quote

As you can tell, I am aimlessly trying to pin a tail on the donkey.

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RE: Mouse messages while down

2007-03-18 Thread Mark Powell
Hi Sarah:

Depending on the arrangement and characteristics of your 400 controls,
you could take the approach of putting mouse detection in an image above
your buttons instead of in a card script below:  Create a one-bit
mask...with areas in the image that register with buttons being made
opaque, other areas being transparent.  In Rev set the blendlevel of the
image to 100.  The entire image will be visually transparent, but mouse
clicks will respect *original* opacity/transparency.  Therefore in the
script of the image you could have something like this:

on mouseDown
  --detectable in opaque areas only 
  put BtnBelowAtMouseDown() into gBtnDown   
  set the hilite of btn gBtnDown to true
end mouseDown   

on mouseRelease 
  set the hilite of btn gBtnDown to false   
end mouseRelease

on mouseUp  
  set the hilite of btn gBtnDown to false   
  send mouseUp to btn gBtnDown  -- if needed
end mouseUp 

on mouseMove
  put BtnBelowAtHover() into tBtnHovered
  ...   
end mouseMove   


The BtnBelowAtMouseDown and BtnBelowAtHover algorithms depend a lot on
card design.  I have done something similar, but with 4 underlying
controls instead of 400 so I am not sure about performance and the
efficiency of those two algorithms in your particular case.  A
compelling feature of this approach is that the creation of the mask
itself could be scriptable...using snapshot, button rects, alphadata,
etc...though I have never done it.

Mark
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RE: Bkgnd process that returns immediately

2007-03-18 Thread Mark Powell
Xavier:  

Thanks for the additional info on the redirect technique.  I have
adapted it to the following

 put start /MAX C:\foo.html  C:\foo.txt into MyCom   
 set the hideConsoleWindows to true 
 get  start cmd /c   quote  MyCom  quote  
 get shell(it)  

and have further questions...

-1-
This does seem to open foo.html without blocking.  However, the console
window flashes despite setting hideConsoleWindows to true. Do you have
that same behavior?  Is this due to the redirect, or is there something
else I can include to keep the console window invisible.

-2-
Suppose I wanted to close the window foo.html via shell.  What would the
text be on the first line before ?

-3-
Can I put multiple lines into mycommand so that shell will run commands
in sequence?

Thanks very much.

Mark

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Bkgnd process that returns immediately

2007-03-16 Thread Mark Powell
A 2005 thread (from Brian, Xavier, Chipp, et. al) talked about
re-direction to achieve a non-blocking shell call, using 

 get shell(mycommand  mylogfile.log )

My brain cannot get this to work.  Let's say I want Rev to start
C:\blah.html using shell(), and then continue executing downstream Rev
handlers.  I've tried variations of

 get shell(start  C:\blah.html )

and

 get shell(start  C:\shellTemp.txt )

  where shellTemp.text contains 
   C:\blah.html
  among other variations

but nothing works.  The following 

  get shell(start C:\blah.html )

does work, but it is blocking.

I understand the ampersand performs a handoff but am ignorant of the
overall sequence of events.  What am I doing wrong?  

Mark

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RE: Bkgnd process that returns immediately

2007-03-16 Thread Mark Powell
 Xavier wrote:
 I just dont use the ampersand and it works like a charm...

Which one of the literal examples works for you?

  get shell(start  C:\blah.html)
  get shell(start  C:\shellTemp.txt)

If the second, then what is in the targeted file?

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RE: Detecting Browser Page on Windows/Linux

2007-03-15 Thread Mark Powell

  If (objApp.Name = Windows Internet Explorer) or
(objApp.Name=Microsoft Internet Explorer) then


Hi Ken:

Does this signify that the VB will not work with browsers other than IE?

Mark

 
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RE: Detecting Browser Page on Windows/Linux

2007-03-14 Thread Mark Powell

 Ken Ray wrote
 I have some VBScript that can work in WIndows to give you ther URL of
all currently open web browser documents (or tabs)...

Hi Ken:

Can your script send a force-refresh to a named browser window?
(Windows OS)

Mark



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RE: Detecting Browser Page on Windows/Linux

2007-03-14 Thread Mark Powell
Yes, even better!  Is it up on your site? 

 Ken Ray wrote
 I have some VBScript that can work in WIndows to give you ther URL of
 all currently open web browser documents (or tabs)...
 
 Mark Powell wrote
 Can your script send a force-refresh to a named browser window?
 (Windows OS)

 Ken Ray wrote
 Sort of - you can force a refresh to a browser window that 
 is displaying a specific (known) URL. Will that work for you?


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RE: How to create PDF files?

2007-03-05 Thread Mark Powell
Google quartam (with an a) and you will find it.

www.quartam.com 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tiemo Hollmann TB
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:41 AM
To: 'How to use Revolution'
Subject: AW: How to create PDF files?

Hello,
I am too interested in creating pdfs on Win and Mac. I didn't find any link to 
quartum in google. Can anyone provide a link?
Someone posted to just use the print dialog on mac. Is a pdf printer standard 
on mac? On win it is not.
Thank you
Tiemo

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Andre Garzia
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2007 15:25
 An: How to use Revolution
 Betreff: Re: How to create PDF files?
 
 Dave,
 
 jan's pdf library and report tool are the best thing you can have. I 
 recommend sticking to Quartam library, you can ask him if you can 
 include it in your app by paying the license beforehand or something 
 like that.
 
 Andre
 
 On Mar 5, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Dave wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Are there any products available to create PDF files in RunRev? I 
  need to be able to create a simple PDF file for a Demo this week. I 
  need it to be working for Friday. It looks like Quartum would do it 
  but it's not available for sale as yet and I can't get figure out 
  how to include the public beta into my project. I posted to the 
  Quartum list but have had no answer as yet and I need to get 
  something as a fall back in just in case they don't respond or I 
  can't include it in my project.
 
  Thanks a lot
  All the Best
  Dave
 
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RE: writing to external file from Windows standalone: empty files

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Powell
Hi Curt:

I would not think it is a permissions issue if you are successfully
creating the file (albeit without content).  I think Bill is right...it
is the open file statement.  The following works for me on XP, without
opening or otherwise preparing vTargetFile for appending.

put vContent into URL vTargetFile




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Best practice question--Protecting auto-loaded Rev stack

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Powell
I am using the so-called altSplash architecture (standalone executable
that loads an un-compiled rev stack) and have a basic best-practices
question:  What is the best way to protect the rev stack?  

Stack A:  Loader stack (compiled standalone)
Stack B:  Main stack (uncompiled Rev stack)
Stack B2: Substack of Stack B

If I set the password of Stack B and B2 to foo, then what do I need to
do in the standalone A so that Stack B functions, but without Stack B's
scripts being viewable by someone with the Rev IDE installed?  Or is it
a foregone conclusion that the architecture presumes the Rev stack to be
open source?

Thnaks

Mark



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RE: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?

2007-02-27 Thread Mark Powell
How to use Revolution

 Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
 Actually, it was easy to run the older version, once 
 I found it! (smile) That did improve the situation, 

 Trevor DeVore wrote:
 the bug appeared in 2.7.5 betas (which became 2.8).  
 detailed files works fine in 2.7.4 which was the 
 last released version of 2.7.x.

I believe it is too generous to say that it improves the situation *not*
to upgrade.  Forego a new version, because you can't trust it is not a
solution, it is a coping mechanism. (-:  

What is particularly frustrating about this bug is that it looks simply
like bad counting on the part of the engine.  The permissions component
is just wrong, but the mod date is now item 6 of detailed files instead
of item 5.  Grrr.  I make lots of mistakes and the ones that grind on me
the most are ones like this that are due to my own sloppy housekeeping.
So my advice to the Rev team:  shoot for the stars in improvements, yes,
but make sure the on-board toilet keep working while you are on the
journey.   

Thanks to all for responding.  This list is cheaper than counseling, and
much more effective.

--Mark
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RE: Please test this...takes 2 seconds

2007-02-26 Thread Mark Powell
Windows XP Professional
Rev. 2.8.0

Works fine with keystroking.  But with menus, Edit  Copy works (e.g.
proven by going to NotePad and pasting) but Edit  Paste does not.  When
I try Edit  Paste, the stack window loses focus and the focusedObject
becomes: 

field id 1035 of card id 1002 of stack C:../revmessagebox.rev

so it may try to be pasting into fld id 1035 (whatever that is).  

This may be a hold-over of the shifting focus problem in earlier
versions?  Maybe fld id 1035 is supposed to be un-focusable?

Mark
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RE: Please test this...takes 2 seconds

2007-02-26 Thread Mark Powell
Sorry, I miswrote.  The focusedObject becomes

button id 1222 of card id 1002 of stack C:/.../revmenubar.rev

Maybe this is what it is supposed to be, but I can see visually that the
stack window becomes de-focussed.

---

Windows XP Professional
Rev. 2.8.0

Works fine with keystroking.  But with menus, Edit  Copy works (e.g.
proven by going to NotePad and pasting) but Edit  Paste does not.  When
I try Edit  Paste, the stack window loses focus and the focusedObject
becomes: 

field id 1035 of card id 1002 of stack C:../revmessagebox.rev

so it may try to be pasting into fld id 1035 (whatever that is).  

This may be a hold-over of the shifting focus problem in earlier
versions?  Maybe fld id 1035 is supposed to be un-focusable?

Mark

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Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?

2007-02-26 Thread Mark Powell
Can someone give me a reality check.  The following is a straight
message box call of

put the detailed files 

When I do it under 2.7.2, I get.
About+the+Earth.txt,46,,1160311160,1160308669,1172320050,0,0,0,666,
AboutFiles.txt,3088,,1160669830,1164203803,1172320050,0,0,0,666,
encap_sol_system.gif,2770,,1160311160,1078329184,1172517002,0,0,0,666,
Process+Meeting.msg,620544,,1160311160,1160308722,1172320051,0,0,0,666,

When I do it under 2.8, I get.
About+the+Earth.txt,46,,1160311160,0,1160308669,0,0,0,000,
AboutFiles.txt,3088,,1160669830,0,1164203803,0,0,0,000,
encap_sol_system.gif,2770,,1160311160,0,1078329184,0,0,0,000,
Process+Meeting.msg,620544,,1160311160,0,1160308722,0,0,0,000,


In 2.8, I am getting modification dates of 1969 due to the zero in item
5.  Is anyone else seeing this, or am I just hallucinating (again)?

Mark


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RE: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?

2007-02-26 Thread Mark Powell
Never cease to be amazed how something functioning in an earlier version
can break so freely in upgrades.  Who is minding the store, anyhow?  And
if it was broken between 2.7.2 and 2.7.5 (as reported by Trevor), any
excuse why it wasn't remedied in 2.8?Aargh.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trevor
DeVore
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:52 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Itemization of detailed files changed in v 2.8?

On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Mark Powell wrote:

 In 2.8, I am getting modification dates of 1969 due to the zero in 
 item 5.  Is anyone else seeing this, or am I just hallucinating 
 (again)?

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4474

--
Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Learning Systems
www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Tri-state checkboxes

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Powell
I know there is debate among HIF designers that such a thing should
exist in the first place, but let's assume that one has a good reason
for it:  

My question is, is there any Rev-native way of doing tri-state
checkboxes?  Where a checkbox can have an ON, OFF, or equivocal
setting that signifies something between ON and OFF.  If not Rev-native,
has anyone cooked up their own solution whose look and feel is
cross-platform compatible (so that the tri-state checkbox can be ganged
alongside conventional Rev-native checkboxes, and not stand out like a
sore thumb)?

I am on 2.8.0

Mark
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RE: Tri-state checkboxes

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Powell
Thanks to all for your suggestions, but they do not precisely fit what I
need.

The image solutions assume one look-and-feel...if the standalone were to
be run on Vista, for example, the image would have the wrong motif when
compared to the neighboring conventional checkboxes.  And Stephen's
solution uses disabled as the third state, which is not what I need.   I
need an enabled third state.

I am guessing this is not possible, but any other ideas are greatly
appreciated.

Mark


On 23 Feb 2007, at 14:01, Mark Powell wrote:

 I know there is debate among HIF designers that such a thing should 
 exist in the first place, but let's assume that one has a good reason 
 for it:

 My question is, is there any Rev-native way of doing tri-state 
 checkboxes?  Where a checkbox can have an ON, OFF, or equivocal
 setting that signifies something between ON and OFF.  If not Rev- 
 native, has anyone cooked up their own solution whose look and feel is

 cross-platform compatible (so that the tri-state checkbox can be 
 ganged alongside conventional Rev-native checkboxes, and not stand out

 like a sore thumb)?

 I am on 2.8.0

 Mark
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RE: Tri-state checkboxes

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Powell
Ken:

Sounds promising.  Is the size/location of the underlying checkbox
predictable enough for this?  i.e. it doesn't pixel-creep from platform
to platform?  

Mark


Well, the closest you can get is to have a single image that shows the
equivocal state that is put on top of a real checkbox, and is hidden. 
When the user clicks on the checkbox, you check the current state of the
hilite and if it is true (checked), you show the equivocal image on top
and allow the mouseup to continue (which will change the checkbox to
cleared (unchecked), but beneath the equivocal image. Then when the user
clicks on the image, you have script that simply hides the image.

Then to find out the state of the checkbox, you'd just check the
visible of the image - if it's showing, you're in an equivocal state; if
not, you take the hilite of the checkbox.

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RE: Am I overseeing something here?

2007-02-20 Thread Mark Powell
Should you not be asking 

  if char -3 to -1 of the long name of the target = XYZ then

Instead of 

  if char -4 to -1 of the long name of the target = XYZ then


--Mark


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Klaus
Major
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:51 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Am I overseeing something here?

Hi friends,

I have a stack XYZ that I start using.

Then I wrote a closestack handler and surely do not want to let ALL
stacks execute it.
So I wrote an if... then... clause to filter other stacks.

But only solution 1 does work, solution 2 does NOT?

To me the logic is identically, but maybe I am overseeing something
obvious here?
Any hints and explanations are very appreciated!


Solution 1 does work:
on closestack
   if char -4 to -1 of the long name of the target = XYZ then
 do this and that ONLY for stack XYZ
  ...
   end if
end closestack


Solution 2, does NOT work, do this and that... IS being executed by
other stacks:
on closestack
   if NOT char -4 to -1 of the long name of the target = XYZ then
  exit closestack
   end if
   do this and that ONLY for stack XYZ
   ...
end closestack


What do I miss here???


Regards

Klaus Major
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RE: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

2007-02-09 Thread Mark Powell
You might look at the Visual Communicator product from a company called
Serious Magic.

http://www.seriousmagic.com/ 

The company has been acquired by Adobe, so I don't know how they plan on
integrating it into their offerings.  It is very script-based ('script'
as in the playwright/Hollywood sense, not in the progammatic sense) and
like everything has its pro's and con's.

Mark



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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:38 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

Hiya,

Had a little think:

Keynote can export to QT movie format:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Keynote/3.0/en/key18.html
I'm assuming this can be scripted.

Script the audio (pre-recorded and tagged): Tag the QT mov to pull in
and play the audio - Save the QT mov with the audio.

Convert the QT mov to DVD format. I haven't done any QT mov conversions,
but I have used VisualHub (http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/) to
convert other file types to DVD. I recall there being an additional
download to do this from the Apple site (the mpeg2encoder methinks) for
VisualHub to do it, but I can't be sure right now.
It also exports for iPod, so you could offer that as an alternative to
the DVD...

Don't know if this helps.

Cheers,

Luis.


Sivakatirswami wrote:
 Luis wrote:
 Hiya,

 Would you detail the setup a little more?
 To mind is a HD cam, but I'm not sure I'm seeing what you require 
 straight off.

 Cheers,

 Luis.
 
 1) Presentations are created in Keynote
 
 2) At the end of the KeyNote, you want to just hand out to the 
 audience the presentation on a DVDs.
 
 3) It obviously does not have the audio by the presentor.
 
 4) We have been recording the presentation live in studio a setting 
 while running the Keynote and capturing this with SnapzPro.
 It works fairly well. We were able to go up to nearly 30 minute and 
 the G 5 handled it pretty well.
 
 Does that help?
 
 
 
 
 On 8 Feb 2007, at 22:08, Sivakatirswami wrote:

 We are in the midst of our hard ware upgrade cycle (once very two 
 years we do major enterprise hardware upgrade here.)

 And we are taking a hard look at must have equipment.

 Some background: (Apple only, OSX)

 We are ramping up video production in a big way and getting from a 
 Keynote to a DVD is right now an incredible jump thru hoops
 where, using SnapzPro on our biggest G5 dual processor desktop 
 production station
 [snip]
 
 Obviously the SnapzPro is price is right vs a $5M conversion box..

 but I would
 be interested to know what a hardware solution might offer that 
 SnapzPro cannot...

 Thanks!
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RE: finding renamed files

2007-02-08 Thread Mark Powell
Hello David:

Assuming you are dealing with jpegs only, you could use exif data in
your comparison algorithm.  For example, if you know the source of all
images you can parse the exif data to see if an unknown 'image software
source' field exists.  If yes, then it is deemed to have changed.

Alex Tweedly has a stack libEXIF that does this well.  I think it is
in RevOnline.

Mark

 

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Thanks to all who made suggestions re the above.  The detailed files
looked promising, but ultimately a bit disappointing.  Maybe last
accessed might offer something, unless of course the file is renamed
without opening.  Mind you, I am only interested in files renamed
because they *mean* something to the user, so I may well want to ignore
anything renamed without opening.  I will call that a 'feature'  ;-))

I will experiment and see what works best.

Best Wishes,

David Glasgow
Carlton Glasgow Partnership

http://www.i-psych.co.uk
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RE: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

2007-02-02 Thread Mark Powell
Hi Chipp/Trevor

By chance, have you implemented something to work around this bug?  Wait
for fix?  Subject users as is?  If testing for engine version, then
what?  I am at an impasse.  Nothing seems quite workable to me.

Mark

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Walters
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:17 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

Yeah Mark, that's the bug. I believe Trevor's well documented it and I
believe I've heard it's fixed in a newer version, when it gets released.

On 1/31/07, Mark Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This, I believe, is the bug in 2.7.2 that Chipp raised a few weeks 
 back.  Am I right?  Anyone know if that little bug has been fixed?

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Application suspending after a window closes in 2.7.x

2007-02-01 Thread Mark Powell
Combination of two earlier threads...

I am running XP with Rev 2.7.2.  In standalone, closing a modal suspends
the rev application and the user is thrown into another currently
running application (Outlook or Photoshop, for example).

My understanding from the October/November time frame is that this is a
known bug that was said to be high priority.  Does anyone know if this
has been fixed in newer versions?  Is there *ANY* established workaround
for it?

Many thanks from the land of eternal snow.

Mark

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RE: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Powell
Well, I guess it is fixed.  I had had no closeStack handler in the
substack, but when I place

  on closeStack
  
  end closeStack
 
into the stack script of the substack, the resulting executable works.
Apparently, a call within the substack button to 'close this stack' or
'close stack License' sends a closeStack message up the hierarchy?  I
did not realize this...I thought the button script had to specifically
say 'closeStack' to yield that result.  

So 'close this stack' in the button apparently reaches the following in
the stack script of the main stack

  on closeStack
if the environment is not development then quit
  end closeStack

which I guess explains why I was not having a problem in the development
environment.

Thanks everybody for bearing with me.

Mark
 

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Walters
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:11 PM
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Subject: Re: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

I imagine the closeStack message is being sent to your mainStack (not
the altSplash stack). If you don't change the originating call, then
handle it in the card or stack script of the mainStack.
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RE: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Powell
Aaargh.  I solved the one problem (trapping the closeStack handler) so
that the rev application does not quit improperly.

However, now a new one has come up.  The closing of the modal *SUSPENDS*
the application (throws the focus onto Outlook, Photoshop, or some other
application)!  The rev application is still in the taskbar, it just is
not active anymore.   This, I believe, is the bug in 2.7.2 that Chipp
raised a few weeks back.  Am I right?  Anyone know if that little bug
has been fixed?  Or am I again showing my ignorance as to how message
passing is supposed to work?

Thanks very much.

Mark
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In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Powell
Here is a distillation of my problem.  From my main stack, I call a
stack with 

   modal stack MyAnswerDialog

On that modal stack, there is an OK button with the script ending with

   close this stack

In the development environment, the modal is closed as expected and you
return to the main stack.  As an executable, clicking the OK button
quits the application (i.e. OK closes both main and modal stacks).  I am
using Rev 2.7.2.   Am I doing something wrong?  I could have sworn this
has worked in the past.

Mark
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RE: In standalone, closing a modal closes everything

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Powell


 It ends with that -- what comes before it?

--in main stack, button script is...

on mouseUp
  openLicenseDialog
end mouseUp

--in main stack, stack script is...

on openLicenseDialog
  modal stack License
end openLicenseDialog

--in stack License, button script is...

on mouseUp
  RequestDone
end mouseUp

--in stack License, stack script is...
on RequestDone
  simple variable checks here
  close this stack
end RequestDone

BTW, Devin, I have tried saying specifically 

close stack License

but the result is the same.

I should clarify one thing.  In development it works as expected.  In
the standalone model, I am using the altSplash methodology, so the
splash screen is technically the executable, while the main stack
referenced above is an un-compiled stack.

Also, I know there has been a bug in one version of Rev or another of
focus switching out of Rev into another application.  I experience that
with 2.7.2.  I can hack together a small sample of what I am talking
about later today, but any idea beforehand are greatly appreciated.



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How do I query 'What object is on top?'

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Powell
Can't find this anywhere in docs or archives.  How can I determine what
object is occupying the top layer of a card at a given moment?  

Mark
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RE: How do I query 'What object is on top?'

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Powell
Hi Mark,

Thanks, but that tells me the layer number, right?  What I need to know
is what *object* occupies the layer.  For example, a pseudo function
like

  put whatObjectOnTop()

might return 

  image id 2834

Mark P.

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Subject: Re: How do I query 'What object is on top?'

Hi Mark,

put the layer of the last control

Best,

Mark

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Op 22-jan-2007, om 18:11 heeft Mark Powell het volgende geschreven:

 Can't find this anywhere in docs or archives.  How can I determine 
 what object is occupying the top layer of a card at a given moment?

 Mark
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RE: How do I query 'What object is on top?'

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Powell
Richard, 

This does do what I was asking about, thanks!

Mark




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Subject: Re: How do I query 'What object is on top?'

To get the topmost object:

   get the long id of last control


To get its name:

   get the short name of the last control


To get its layer:

   get the layer of the last control


To get its type-specific number:

   get the number of the last control


What else is needed?

--
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  Fourth World Media Corporation
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RE: How to convert seconds to date and time?

2007-01-12 Thread Mark Powell
This works in my code

...
convert vTheSeconds to short system date and abbreviated system time 
...

where vTheSeconds is a value in seconds such as 1141690766

Mark

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Hi!

In the documentation I find the way to convert the date  the time to
seconds
but I do not find a way to convert the seconds back the date  the
time.

Reinhold

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RE: Hairlines and Scaling

2007-01-02 Thread Mark Powell
Hi Joe

You might also consider the strategy of creating/maintaining the vectors
in an oversized stack, say 2000 x 3000 pixels in size, then exporting
cards as needed as GIF, JPG or whatever file format your program can
scale, print, or otherwise consume.  (See the export command in the
docs).  If you need a more easily viewable image in your native Rev
stack, I can imagine a scheme where you create thumbnails for viewing
within Rev.  However, not sure how you would go about having a more
easily *manipulable* (scroll-free) image in Rev.  There is no zoom-in
capability, ala Illustrator or Photoshop.

Mark  

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Wilkins
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To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Hairlines and Scaling

Thanks for your response, Scott.

I suppose one method for me to achieve this effect will be to print my
output at a 50% magnification. This would reduce one pixel lines to half
a pixel. Of course this means that the objects themselves will have to
be drawn at twice their size in order to produce an accurately scaled
drawing. Using one of my other programming languages I was able to do
Hairlines; whether they were 1/2 pixel width or not, I'm not sure; but
they looked narrower. FYI, I'm planning to write a program that can be
used to create shop drawings of a manufacturer's product by providing
digital input, rather than having to actually draw the items. Once I've
figured out how to do this it will reduce the time to produce these
drawings, properly label and date everything to minutes instead of the
days it now takes; even using CAD systems.

Again, thanks,

Joe Wilkins

On Dec 31, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

 Recently, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

 Has anyone developed a method of giving graphic objects' lines a 
 thickness less than 1 pixel in size? Also, a method of assigning 
 other than 72 pixels per inch; preferably 192?

 Rev cannot natively display a true line object less than 1 pixel in 
 thickness since it does not currently support sub-pixel positioning, 
 but even then, all you might wind up with is a blurred line that 
 occupies more than 1 pixel in thickness.  Are you perhaps trying to 
 create a scalable display or something else?

 The only way I can think of to accomplish something like this is to 
 use an image that has space around the line that will antialias when 
 scaled.  Not sure if this helps.

 Regards,

 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
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RE: Removing a stack from memory - is this a bug?

2006-12-28 Thread Mark Powell
Joe:

I was myself a practicing architect and then HyperCard guru, working for
Apple Computer for several years in the 1990s.  When I left Apple I
found myself in the Windows wasteland, Hypercard-less and mute for
almost 5 or 6 years until I stumbled across Rev.  As I have said before:
Where once I was blind, now I see.  (The fact that Frederic Rinaldi is
here speaks volumes, doesn't it?).  Make sure to communicate that in
your journals...for ex-HyperCarders who have never found Rev, you will
be like an apostle.

As to the original reason for this post, is there any chance that the
bar character in the stack name is the cause of the problem?  I am
guessing you use it liberally elsewhere without problems, but I'd avoid
it.  Its 'OR-ness' is too significant for my conservative tastes.

Mark
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How to press Enter when there is no such key on my keyboard

2006-12-26 Thread Mark Powell
Really dumb question:  I am working on my laptop in the airport and am
testing scripts via the multiple-line message box.  However, my laptop
has only the Return key (which happens to be labelled 'Enter' but isn't
really).  Does anyone know how to fool Rev or the Windows OS into
receiving an enterkey in this scenario when the keyboard does not
actually have one?  I worked around it by creating temporary buttons,
but am just curious if there is a direct way.
~Mark Powell

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RE: How to press Enter when there is no such key on my keyboard

2006-12-26 Thread Mark Powell
It works, thanks! 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:02 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: How to press Enter when there is no such key on my keyboard

Hi Mark,

Try ctrl-enter. I have a Dell laptop with a similar keyboard. I found I
can press ctrl-enter to close the script editor.

Phil Davis


Mark Powell wrote:
 Really dumb question:  I am working on my laptop in the airport and am

 testing scripts via the multiple-line message box.  However, my laptop

 has only the Return key (which happens to be labelled 'Enter' but 
 isn't really).  Does anyone know how to fool Rev or the Windows OS 
 into receiving an enterkey in this scenario when the keyboard does not

 actually have one?  I worked around it by creating temporary buttons, 
 but am just curious if there is a direct way.
 ~Mark Powell
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RE: Help. How do you insert a custom icon into your standalone?

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Powell
Does building icons for XP automatically mean they are compatible with
Windows 2000? 

Mark
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Writing to $ALLUSERSPROFILE

2006-12-11 Thread Mark Powell
Working on a utility for Windows that writes to 

  C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data

but it occurs to me that this would not work for non-English operating
systems.  Three questions:

- Can I use the environmental variable $ALLUSERSPROFILE with absolute
confidence that it will resolve on all Windows operating systems?
- How do I write into the Application Data subdirectory? (i.e. how do
I anticipate the localized name?)
- If I can't, then can I create a directory at the root of All Users
with absolute confidence that I can do it on all systems?

Thanks

Mark Powell

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Best Practices for licensing

2006-12-02 Thread Mark Powell
Open question for those on the list with commerical offerings for
Windows:

What are best practices for licensing of your RR-created applications?
For example, how do you recommend generating the keys, how do you
distribute them, and how do you store the bits locally etc?  And in
general, what are the problems to look out for.

Thanks all,

Mark



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stack vs. exe behavior in altSplash deployment

2006-11-26 Thread Mark Powell
I have an app in development that I am now transitioning to be
suitcased with Altuit's altSplash architecture.  

[BTW Chipp: altSplash is to Rev apps what Dick Fosbury was to high
jumping--I hope you understand the compliment]

Anyway, a couple of questions

-1-  Cursor idiosynracies:  
Rev's built-in cursors aren't available (e.g. instead of hand and busy,
I get the hourglass).  How do I ensure that cursors port over correctly
when a stack is deployed as a non-executable?

-2-  Saving state:  
When deployed as a non-executable, is it accurate to say that saving
state (i.e. preferences, last state of checkbox, etc) is as
straightforward as asking whether to save when the stack is closed?

-3-  Alpha channels:
When used in the context of altSplash, is alpha channel synonymous
with transparency layer.  I am getting transparency to work, but am
wondering if I am not capitalizing on the effects available in the
engine.

Thanks very much

Mark









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iconifyStack sends me to the Milky Way

2006-11-23 Thread Mark Powell
I want to *close* a minimized stack and go to a second stack at a
controlled location.  Details...

I have a window with various elements, one of which is a button that
performs dragDrop tasks.  I want to give users the option to 'collapse'
this window to show only the dragDrop button (i.e. resulting in a
smaller drag-and-drop well).  I currently accomplish this by an
in-window button that closes the stack and goes to a substack that is a
reduced version of the first.  It works exactly as I want.  

I would also like to have the minimize button in the titlebar mimic the
same thing.

However, when I trap the iconifyStack message and exectute the same
instruction set, Windows OS overrides my loc settings and puts the
destination window at a loc of -31775,-31683.  It also does not respect
the closeStack handler for the originating stack, leaving it open in the
taskbar.
  
Number one, why the inter-galactic coordinates?  Number two, how do I
close the first stack?  Number three, any better way of accomplishing
this?

Mark

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Allow line breaks at a char other than 'space'

2006-11-23 Thread Mark Powell
In a field, I would like to allow line breaks to occur at a forward
slash char in the same way as they occur at a space char. (I don't want
to *force* the line break...only to *allow* it if the right margin is in
play).  Is there any easy way to do this without having to calculate
effective widths etc.

Mark Powell


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Does a day start at 1:00 AM everwhere?

2006-10-27 Thread Mark Powell
I have a user-specified date.  I want to convert it to seconds and
factor in 86400 to establish the range of seconds for that date, so that
I can compare a file's creation date to determine whether that file was
created on that specified day.  The problem is I am not sure what is
used as the starting point for a date's seconds counter.  At 6:42 this
morning, I ran this:

  put the short date into theDate
  convert theDate to seconds
  put ((the seconds - theDate) / 3600)

and got 4.710556, which suggests that a date starts at 1:00 AM and not
midnight.  Is this accurate?  And more importantly, is this the way the
computation would be handled on any client machine anywhere?

Thanks

Mark Powell

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RE: Does a day start at 1:00 AM everwhere?

2006-10-27 Thread Mark Powell
Jim and Ken:

Aargh. I hate it when something I'd hope would be easy turns into a
rathole. 

My problem is that I have two inputs.  One is the user inputting a date.
Another is the creation date in seconds that has previously been
extracted via a 'detailed files' call, which has been concatenated in
the format below.   

C:/RevolutionStacks/SortTest/!?!Sept_009K.jpg!/9040/1157431138

What I wanted to do is to express the input date in seconds and test it
against item -1 of each line in the container (there are potentially 
100,000 such lines in a container). Using dateItems or 'word 1 of
tFileDateTime' as you suggest would require modification to the original
'detailed files' extraction algorithm, which doubtless will have a
ripple effect elsewhere.  So, is there not any reliable way to compare
seconds to seconds?  Or do I have to go the route of approximation.

Also Ken, the DST et. al. wrinkles you describe:  does that affect the
interpretation of a creation date extracted from the file?  Or is the
complication confined to how a particular user's computer calculates a
time query?  For example, if a user's OS displays a creation date for
foo.txt as 11/21/05, will Rev not always interpret it as 11/21/05?  Or
can fencepost error arise where Rev misinterprets the static date?

Thanks again

Mark Powell
 

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Powell
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 6:53 AM
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Does a day start at 1:00 AM everwhere?

I have a user-specified date.  I want to convert it to seconds and
factor in 86400 to establish the range of seconds for that date, so that
I can compare a file's creation date to determine whether that file was
created on that specified day.  The problem is I am not sure what is
used as the starting point for a date's seconds counter.  At 6:42 this
morning, I ran this:

  put the short date into theDate
  convert theDate to seconds
  put ((the seconds - theDate) / 3600)

and got 4.710556, which suggests that a date starts at 1:00 AM and not
midnight.  Is this accurate?  And more importantly, is this the way the
computation would be handled on any client machine anywhere?

Thanks

Mark Powell

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Multiple arguments with the filter command

2006-10-25 Thread Mark Powell
Another text filtering question, please.  I have studied the archives
but have not found precisely the solution that works.  

I have a container vContainer of file names, each line of the form 

  directory/!?!filename!/filesize/creationdate

Here are three literal examples:

  C:/The World/Asia/!?!prologue.ps!/1026/1115309596
  C:/The World/Europe/!?!Map of Europe.jpg!/3536844/1155845730
  C:/The World/!?!About1953.txt!/4288/1161776573

User-input text strings can define what files from vContainer are to be
retained. The following works to filter-in the first example above:

  filter vContainer with (*!*.ps*!*)

However, if the user wants both .ps and Europe to be retained, how
best to do it without repeat loops and a lot of temporary copies of
vContainer?  Is there a way?

One catch is that if the user inputs something like 53, the operation
must recognize the fact that the 53 in the first two examples is not a
part of the file name, thereby filtering them out, but that 53 is a
part of the file name in the third example, thereby filtering it in.
This is one reason for the exclamation point tokens in vContainer.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.

Mark Powell

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RE: Multiple arguments with the filter command

2006-10-25 Thread Mark Powell
Thanks to both Jim and Marielle for their awesome feedback.  Instead of
asking specific questions about the details of your feedback, I want to
ask a general performance question.  The filter does work within a
repeat loop like this:

repeat for each item thisItem in vInputStrings   
  get vContainer 
  filter it with (*!*  thisItem  *!*)
  put cr  it after vNewContainer
end repeat
...do something with vNewContainer

But given that vInputStrings could be very large, my concern is that the
getting and putting involved would be dangerously memory- or
processor-intensive.  What are the risks you have seen with the brute
force approach like the one above?  

Mark 


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Powell
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To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Multiple arguments with the filter command

Another text filtering question, please.  I have studied the archives
but have not found precisely the solution that works.  

I have a container vContainer of file names, each line of the form 

  directory/!?!filename!/filesize/creationdate

Here are three literal examples:

  C:/The World/Asia/!?!prologue.ps!/1026/1115309596
  C:/The World/Europe/!?!Map of Europe.jpg!/3536844/1155845730
  C:/The World/!?!About1953.txt!/4288/1161776573

User-input text strings can define what files from vContainer are to be
retained. The following works to filter-in the first example above:

  filter vContainer with (*!*.ps*!*)

However, if the user wants both .ps and Europe to be retained, how
best to do it without repeat loops and a lot of temporary copies of
vContainer?  Is there a way?

One catch is that if the user inputs something like 53, the operation
must recognize the fact that the 53 in the first two examples is not a
part of the file name, thereby filtering them out, but that 53 is a
part of the file name in the third example, thereby filtering it in.
This is one reason for the exclamation point tokens in vContainer.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.

Mark Powell

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RE: Multiple arguments with the filter command

2006-10-25 Thread Mark Powell
Aah, my ambiguity.  What I am looking for is an OR solution.  For
example, 

Keep file names with Europe OR .ps OR 53 

That is why I have a vNewContainer variable, although file names
satisfying more than one string would have to dealt with.

Mark


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Lange
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:32 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Multiple arguments with the filter command

Yep, this was the fast solution to the and problem ;-). Best strategy
to adopt then is to first sort the search items by length.  
Then run your repeat loop from longest to shortest. If lucky, you will
only have 1 or 2 items left in your file list. What matters then is the
size of your list of words to search for rather than the size of the
original list of files.

I was not quite sure to understand the use of your vNewContainer
variable. Filter will directly act on your variable such that only the
lines that the filter let go appear in the new list. So, in fact, you
could code it this way and as with the strategy outlined above, if lucky
after the first repeat, vNewContainer wlll be very small.

put vContainer into vNewContainer
repeat for each item thisItem in vInputStrings
   filter vNewContainer with (*!*  thisItem  *!*) end repeat ...do
something with vNewContainer


 Thanks to both Jim and Marielle for their awesome feedback.   
 Instead of
 asking specific questions about the details of your feedback, I want 
 to ask a general performance question.  The filter does work within a 
 repeat loop like this:

 repeat for each item thisItem in vInputStrings
   get vContainer
   filter it with (*!*  thisItem  *!*)
   put cr  it after vNewContainer
 end repeat
 ...do something with vNewContainer

 But given that vInputStrings could be very large, my concern is that 
 the getting and putting involved would be dangerously memory- or 
 processor-intensive.  What are the risks you have seen with the brute 
 force approach like the one above?

 Mark


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark 
 Powell
 Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:04 AM
 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Multiple arguments with the filter command

 Another text filtering question, please.  I have studied the archives 
 but have not found precisely the solution that works.

 I have a container vContainer of file names, each line of the form

   directory/!?!filename!/filesize/creationdate

 Here are three literal examples:

   C:/The World/Asia/!?!prologue.ps!/1026/1115309596
   C:/The World/Europe/!?!Map of Europe.jpg!/3536844/1155845730
   C:/The World/!?!About1953.txt!/4288/1161776573

 User-input text strings can define what files from vContainer are to 
 be retained. The following works to filter-in the first example above:

   filter vContainer with (*!*.ps*!*)

 However, if the user wants both .ps and Europe to be retained, how

 best to do it without repeat loops and a lot of temporary copies of 
 vContainer?  Is there a way?

 One catch is that if the user inputs something like 53, the 
 operation must recognize the fact that the 53 in the first two 
 examples is not a part of the file name, thereby filtering them out, 
 but that 53 is a part of the file name in the third example, thereby

 filtering it in.
 This is one reason for the exclamation point tokens in vContainer.

 Any ideas greatly appreciated.

 Mark Powell

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How to delete trailing spaces in a line

2006-10-24 Thread Mark Powell
I want to delete all spaces at the end of a line, be they a single space
or a couple dozen.  What is the best way to do this?

Mark Powell
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RE: How to delete trailing spaces in a line

2006-10-24 Thread Mark Powell
Thanks for the reply, Mark.  However, it must be at the end of line
only.  In addition, I need to do the operation on a container in one
call, preferably using replaceText.  I am having problems with 

...
put space  +  return into vStringToStrip
replaceText(vMyContainer,vStringToStrip,empty)
...


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Subject: Re: How to delete trailing spaces in a line

put word 1 to -1 of tLine into tLine - though this will also remove
spaces at the beginning of the line.


Best,

Mark

On 24 Oct 2006, at 17:10, Mark Powell wrote:

 I want to delete all spaces at the end of a line, be they a single 
 space or a couple dozen.  What is the best way to do this?

 Mark Powell
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RE: How to delete trailing spaces in a line

2006-10-24 Thread Mark Powell
Yes, Jim hit the nail on the head.  Does exactly what I wanted and quickly.
Mark 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ault
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:50 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: How to delete trailing spaces in a line

I believe the original question by Mark Powell was asking about removing spaces 
at the end of every line in a multi-line container, then later the he described 
trying to use replaceText and a regular expression to do the job, which it can 
do.  See my earlier post with one way of doing this.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas 


On 10/24/06 11:46 AM, André.Bisseret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't claim that it is the best way, but, in order to delete all 
 spaces at the end of a field  I am using :
 
 repeat until last char of fld leTexte is not space
  delete last char of fld leTexte
end repeat
 
 which works for a line as well (I just tried it).
 
 Best regards from Grenoble
 André
 
 
 Le 24 oct. 06 à 17:10, Mark Powell a écrit :
 
 I want to delete all spaces at the end of a line, be they a single 
 space or a couple dozen.  What is the best way to do this?
 
 Mark Powell


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Comma in file names thwarting URLdecode(the files)

2006-10-11 Thread Mark Powell
Sure this has to be a simple question but I can't find anything about it
in docs or forum.

-The long files function returns a comma-delimited list of attributes.  
-With URLdecode, a file name with comma skews item delimiting.
-Without URLdecode, a file name with percentage sign skews delimiting.
-Checking 'number of items' seems to be OS-dependent (last item empty on
Windows?!)

What am I missing?  How can I reliably derive a Windows-OS file name
from 'the files'?

Mark Powell
mark_powell (at symbol) symantec.com
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Using 'for each' to modify a container

2006-10-11 Thread Mark Powell
I want to use the 'for each' form of the repeat loop, but don't know how
to use it to modify data within a container.  For example:

repeat for each line thisLine in vContainer
  put doSomeFunction(item -2 of thisLine) into item -2 of thisLine
  --how do I get the change back into vContainer?
end repeat

Thanks!

Mark Powell
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RE: Andy's comments and positioning...

2004-02-04 Thread Mark Powell
Being a veteran of HyperCard wars at Apple, I could not agree more with
Chipp's assessment.  It is perception and (in part) simple name recognition.

Case in point, I go into my management and say I need x dollars budget to
develop this utility.  What are you developing in? they ask.  If I say
C++ or VB, they stroke their metaphorical chins and with gravitas,
acknowledge regretfully the necessity of such an outlay.  If I say
Revolution, they look they're being lobbied by Dennis Kucinich.  Don't let
the door hit you in the butt.  It is a comfort factor.

I think the positioning angle (I am very sorry to say), demands that Rev
strive to be more agnostic as far as Mac vs. Wintel is concerned.  The few
people I have spoken to who have ever heard of Revolution think of it as a
Macintosh-only thing.  That turns off a heckuva lot of potential users
before they even have a chance to learn any better.

Other things that developers can adopt are what I call placebo features,
whose presence is solely to soothe a user into feeling that their app has
been developed in a professional SDE.  One example is the cursor set (that
I believe Chipp distributes) that turns the telltale hand cursor into the
more familiar OS like cursor.  It is without reason from a purist's point of
view, but so if wearing a business suit to board meeting.  Perception.

All in all my advice is don't get angry at people who simply can't see the
forest for the trees.  As my dad used to say to me:  Don't tell me.  Show
me.  Revolution needs compelling apps whose appearance and functionality
don't telegraph how they were developed.

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Deselect on click

2004-01-22 Thread Mark Powell
Simple I'm sure, but it evades me...

I have a field that I'm using as a clickable list.  Its listBehavior,
toggleHilites, noncontiguousHilites, autoHilite, are all set to true.  The
standalone works as I want, except for one thing.  If the user has a line or
lines already selected, then clicks on another line *without* using Shift or
Command/Control keys, all the previously selected lines should un-highlight
and the new line should then be highlighted by itself.  At least that is how
it works in applications that I use.

How do I do that?

Mark
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Runtime error with 'get URL'

2004-01-14 Thread Mark Powell
I am on Windows 2000 with two machines A and B.  I develop and debug on A,
but test standalones on both A and B.  I have a runtime error that I have
isolated to the following code in the preOpenStack handler:

...
get URL ClientDataCurrent
answer calling from preOpenStack, this is what is \ 
   read from the data_current file:  return  it
if (the result is not empty) then
   exit routine
end if
put it into gWhatever
...

On machine A in both the IDE and standalone, gWhatever is populated and
everything works as desired. On machine B, the code gets nothing from the
text file (confirmed by the answer dialog during runtime).  The result
testing is not triggered in any scenario.  Moreover, on both A and B I can
validate connectivity by pasting the URL into a browser and seeing the data
directly.

Any ideas?  Are there additional tests I can do during runtime that will
shed light on this?

Mark
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RE: Runtime error with 'get URL'

2004-01-14 Thread Mark Powell
 PARAPHRASED FROM DAR 
What is 'the result' and 'the syserror'?
What version of Rev?
Is the URL on B?
Does B have to go through a proxy?

The result is empty.  Rev 2.0.1.  I did not know about 'the syserror', will
try it out.  Machine B does not go through a proxy, and similar routines in
standalones have worked on this machine before.  The URL is to a location on
the company intranet.

 PARAPHRASED FROM DAVE ===
the result may be from the answer?...
http or ftp etc?
libUrl loaded?

I put the answer dialog late in the process, same results before I inserted
it. I can go back in and remove it just to validate.  The URL is an http
one. Is the loading of libURL a function of what machine you are one (the
standalone does work on machine A).  

== ORIGINAL MESSAGE ==
I am on Windows 2000 with two machines A and B.  I develop and debug on A,
but test standalones on both A and B.  I have a runtime error that I have
isolated to the following code in the preOpenStack handler:

...
get URL ClientDataCurrent
answer calling from preOpenStack, this is what is \ 
   read from the data_current file:  return  it
if (the result is not empty) then
   exit routine
end if
put it into gWhatever
...

On machine A in both the IDE and standalone, gWhatever is populated and
everything works as desired. On machine B, the code gets nothing from the
text file (confirmed by the answer dialog during runtime).  The result
testing is not triggered in any scenario.  Moreover, on both A and B I can
validate connectivity by pasting the URL into a browser and seeing the data
directly.

Any ideas?  Are there additional tests I can do during runtime that will
shed light on this?

Mark
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RE: text encoding gotcha?

2004-01-13 Thread Mark Powell
Suddenly, I am seeing something similar in my IDE (running on Windows).  A
list is showing either the box you describe or a bold pipe at the end of
each line.  A chartonum query identifies this character as 13, and when I
replace numtochar(13) with empty, the artifact goes away.  This 'fix' is
making me nervous, because it seems to be the equivalent of saying strip
the carriage returns, which it is not doing.

I am seeing this for the first time today.  Maybe we have the same flu.

Mark

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Suddenly when I do a Win32 standalone build, when I run it on windows, 
some fields are all garbled looking. Every other character is a box- 
signifying maybe this is using a wide character encoding. This is 
bizarre- I'm not using Unicode at all. What the heck could be going on? 
Is it possible to disable the automatic MacToISO encoding for fields 
which happens when you launch a Mac-built standalone on Windows?

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RE: text encoding gotcha?

2004-01-13 Thread Mark Powell
The scripts do save to, and extract from, a standalone text file.  No
clipboard involved is involved however.

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Subject: Re: text encoding gotcha?



On Jan 13, 2004, at 10:48 AM, Mark Powell wrote:
 I am seeing this for the first time today.  Maybe we have the same flu.

Any chance you copy-pasted the contents of the field, from another app?

It seems in my case Revolution is not checking the contents of the 
clipboard carefully enough, or is misinterpreting the clipboard 
encoding.

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Update a global when going to a stack as modal

2004-01-07 Thread Mark Powell
I have a handler in stack A of the pseudo form below
  ...
  LINE 1 put Before into global gFoo
  LINE 2 go to stack B as modal; user input there goes into gFoo
  LINE 3 put gFoo into fld Information of stack A
  ...

The text that is put into the field on stack A is inevitably Before.
However, if I immediately type 

  put gFoo into fld Information

the data that was collected in stack B is put into the field in stack A as
expected.  The global is populated as I would want, except it is as if line
3 above is run before line 2.  What is going on?  Can I not switch between
stacks and collect data?  Is there a workaround?

Mark
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Setting listBehavior to false = 'break' ?

2004-01-06 Thread Mark Powell
I have a preOpenStack handler that sets the context-specific properties of
one particular field (sometimes editable, sometimes clickable, etc.).  When
using the following line 

  set the listBehavior of field foo to false

in either a switch or if/else construction, the debugger shows that my
handler acts as if there is a break statement following this line,
immediately exiting the construction without performing any downstream
instructions.  Can someone instruct me on what I am doing wrong?  Is there a
bug in the system or is there a bug between my ears?  My config is Rev.
2.0.1 on Windows.

Thanks in advance.

Mark Powell



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Referencing cells by column and row name

2003-12-30 Thread Mark Powell
Say I have 50 lines of tab-delimited data.  Each line represents one of the 50 U.S. 
states.  Each item within a line corresponds to some kind of data (population, area, 
etc.)  Is there any way using Rev's built-in commands to write something akin to 

get item Population of line Colorado

where Population and Colorado are not variables, but 'column' and 'row' names.  Is it 
possible to establish names in this way and retrieve data similarly to above?

Appreciate any and all suggestions

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Need user name, not computer name

2003-12-22 Thread Mark Powell
How can I determine one's user name?  I have been using the address property
to extract it, but have just learned that this is the computer name, which
IST changes when a computer is upgraded.  Ergo, one user can no longer
launch the standalone.  On a related note, I see through the debugger that
there are distinct globals $USERNAME and $COMPUTERNAME, but do not know how
to trace how these globals are set up by the engine.   Perhaps $USERNAME is
what I need to use?  Does this persist across hardware changes?
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RE: Need user name, not computer name

2003-12-22 Thread Mark Powell
Windows, please.

 What platform(s), Mark?

 How can I determine one's user name?
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Increasing indent factor in script windows

2003-12-18 Thread Mark Powell
Is there any way to increase the indent factor in script windows?  (i.e. instead of 
having the engine indent by two spaces per tier, have it indent by four, for example). 
 I would like to have a more pronounced nesting.

Alternately, I extract scripts for purposes of documentation and can write a handler 
to increase it.  But I am a bit stumped by the most basic thing.  How do I say in a 
script the equivalent of

if line x of script has leading spaces then double the number of leading spaces

without resorting to heavy handed repeat loops?

Appreciate your help.

Mark Powell
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Simple question--what handler am I in?

2003-12-10 Thread Mark Powell
In a script window, is there any way to automatically know what handler you
are in the middle of (i.e. without scrolling to its opening or closing
declaration)?
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RE: Acrobat exporting?

2003-11-18 Thread Mark Powell
Acrobat itself can export to rtf and ps, so if you can figure out a way to
drive Acrobat from Rev, you might have success.

Mark Powell

-Original Message-

Greetungs list!

Sorry if this was mentioned earlier but has anyone got an acrobat to
somethingelse converter? I mean from Acrobat file format converter to text,
html, xml, files pieces or stack format?

It's for the xos project!

TIA

XB
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RE: Questions about experiences

2003-11-10 Thread Mark Powell
Bjoernke:

I'll echo what Alex wrote (i.e. extolling its positives).  I spent seven
years at Apple Computer in the early 90s on a team that delivered technical
documentation using a home-grown HyperCard engine.  I was never a
programmer, but over the course of that time I became very proficient at
understanding the texture of HC.  It was like that dream where I was in a
foreign country but could somehow speak flawlessly in the local language.

Then I woke up!  I left Apple, entered the Wintel-dominated work force, and
all my HC skills were for nothing.

Nevering finding equivalent time to learn some other SDE, I was never able
to automate tasks as I would like and found myself hamstrung in trying to do
what I knew an X-Talk SDE would allow me to do.  Simple things, most of
them.  When I stumbled across Revolution last summer, I swear I felt like
singing Amazing Grace (that once I was lost, and now I am found).

Not to sound too much the groupie, but without Revolution, I'd be blind,
deaf, and mute (metaphorically speaking).

Mark Powell

-Original Message-
From: Björnke von Gierke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Questions about experiences


Hello,
I am in the process of writing an article about runrev, and would like 
to ask you about two things:

Did you experience that you wanted to make a project, but where unable 
to do it with runrev? For example because a technology was not 
supported, not fast enough or because it was otherwise not up to the 
task.

DId you realise any projects that you did not think that it would be 
possible to do with runrev?


Thank you for your time
Bjoernke von Gierke

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RE: GIF animation problem

2003-11-07 Thread Mark Powell
Hi Graham:

Have you ever seen animated GIFs overlap in any other environment?

Without having tried anything like this in the past, I'd say this is the
behavior that I would expect.  If two animated GIFs (or any other  kind of
motion graphic) were attempting to occupy common pixels within the same
window, it seems that the OS would understandably protest.  That one button
is masked behind the other perhaps doesn't insulate them in the same way
as if they were on different windows.  I am only guessing.  

If you want to have them both animate, maybe you'd have to somehow have them
within different windows so that dragging them around is not actually
dragging the icon, but dragging a stack window (the rect of the window
equalling the rect of the button, perhaps?  Aargh).  Another option may be
to test for overlapping and set the icon of the lower button to a static
image. Yet another option maybe to animate context-sensitive cursors while
dragging, instead of animating icons.  All of these ideas are pretty
nightmarish, but it is the best I can think of, apart from abandoning
animation all together.  Are you sure there is a compelling benefit in
trying to animate like this?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Graham Samuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:13 PM
To: Revolution user discussion
Subject: Re: GIF animation problem


At 12:30 + 6/11/03, I wrote:
In an app that is in an advanced state of testing, I have a couple 
of transparent buttons each of which has an icon which itself is an 
animated GIF.

[...] I didn't say clearly that the user is allowed to drag these 
buttons around the screen.

This generally works extremely well, but my beta tester has pointed 
out that just one of these animations stops working as soon as its 
border overlaps with the other one. It doesn't seem to mind 
overlapping with other, static, controls (images and grcs).

I have tried all sorts of stuff now, such as changing the size of the 
GIFs, taking away other graphics and images, etc, but the phenomenon 
continues. It seems that the GIF with the most frames is the one 
which stops moving, while the one with less frames continues to 
animate: if both have the same number of frames, or are derived from 
the same image, then both stop. It doesn't seem to be an issue of the 
relative level (layer) of each GIF, and the problem shows up in 
different OSs.

I am now totally stuck - the only thing I can think of doing is to 
rearrange the entire screen so that the buttons don't have to 
overlap. It does begin to look like a bug in the engine's 
GIF-animating routine (I guess it must have one).

Still hoping for some help.

Graham

-- 
---
  Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK  France
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RE: Hand in the script editior

2003-11-06 Thread Mark Powell
Rev is very intuitive.  It must have sensed that you needed a hand...

-Original Message-
From: Ken Norris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hand in the script editior


Hello,

Hmmm. I was just now fiddling with scripts, and I got a hand cursor in the
editor and couldn't place the blinking I-beam in the middle of a line where
I wanted it. But the hand disappeared as I moved out of the middle of the
line, and I could place the cursor at the end. Very strange. I had to close
the editor and reopen to get it to respond properly.

Has anyone else experienced that? Not a big deal, just curious what was
happening.

TIA,
Ken N.

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RE: Text field formatting

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Powell
My advice is to completely divorce yourself from anything native to
PowerPoint.  Depending on what kind of effects you need to replicate and
your display quality needs, I would suggest grabbing the slides as screen
shots, or doing Save as within PowerPoint and saving the presentation to
HTML, RTF, GIF, or whatever.  Then deal with those objects.

-Original Message-
From: Thomas J McGrath III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Text field formatting


Hello all,

I am doing a rush CD project and need to do a lot of conversions from 
existing Powerpoint presentations. I need to import text and graphics 
from Powerpoint into a card in rev. Then I need to replicate the 
special effects that were done in Powerpoint in the new card in Rev. I 
started doing the text and am having trouble even getting the text 
field formatting to look right.

A wrap around text line does not tab in to align correctly. The text 
starts at the number or bullet instead of tabbed in to align with where 
the text starts. Rev does not seem to have good text field tools for 
formatting.

Any ideas on good formatting in REV? Has anyone had to do a lot of 
importing of formatted text?
Any ideas on how to do this. I am in a crunch on this.

Thanks much,

Tom

Thomas J McGrath III
Advanced Media Group

220 Drake Rd.
Bethel Park, PA 15102
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Is there any documentation on how to build distributions?

2003-10-23 Thread Mark Powell
Is there any documentation anywhere on building distributions?

Thanks!

Mark Powell
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RE: How do I delete substacks?

2003-10-23 Thread Mark Powell
The rub is that I have no idea how those resource stacks became substacks of
my main stack.  I am guessing it happened during  an attempt at building a
distribution.  Any ideas?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Klaus Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:57 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: How do I delete substacks?


Hi Mark,

 How do I delete substacks?

See the dox - delete stack

To delete a mainstack:
...
delete stack name of stack
...

To delete a substack:
...
delete stack name of substack of stack name of mainstack
...

 What if they are Rev's resource stacks
 (revMenuBar, revIcons, for example)?

Well... ehmm...
Let me put it this way: That would not be good! ;-)

Since YOU are writing the scripts (do you?) this should be easily 
avoidable ;-)

 Thanks.

 Mark Powell
 (a former HyperCard user who is not yet clear on the concept of 
 substacks)

Hope that helps...


Regards

Klaus Major
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www.major-k.de

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Build Distribution does nada

2003-10-22 Thread Mark Powell
I have encountered a problem that is preventing me from building, even
though up until the last two days I have been able to.  Depending on what
settings I attempt in Build Distribution, I get one of two things.  

-1- 
After clicking Build Distribution, nothing happens (although the feedback
text checking for stacks in memory and Preparing to build does flash for
about a tenth of a second at the bottom of the BD window).
-2- 
I get the alert that the revLibrary group already exists, after which
nothing happens.

Another thing that is different is that my rev file now has more substacks
than it had previously (revMenuBar, revIcons, et.al).  How do I get rid of
these things and where are they?

Lastly, is there *any* documentation at all on the Build Distribution stack?
I can find none.

Thanks very much!

Mark Powell
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Ignore punctuation when addressing word n of a string

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Powell
I have a string such as now, that is a string!  But when I address word n
of the string, I get now, (when n = 1) and string! for (when n = 5).
How can I point to a string and get only the nth word, without any
contiguous punctuation getting in the way?  

Thanks in advance,

Mark Powell
Production Manager
VERITAS Education




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Ignore punctuation when addressing word n of a string [more info]

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Powell
Okay, so word automatically assumes white space as delimiter.  I can't
skim out the punctuation, so can someone suggest how I do the following.
(This example is closer my real life problem).

Within a bunch of text, I want to replace any string of pattern 

00-000

(where 0 is any integer and the dash is a literal dash) with a string of 

A HREF=#00-0-000/A

In other words, I am looking to bracket the pattern string with an HTML
index tag that uses the same literal string as a named target.  Short of
doing a char-by-char crawl, how can I accomplish this search and replace?  

ManyTIA

Mark Powell
Production Manager
VERITAS Education

---original post
I have a string such as now, that is a string!  But when I address word n
of the string, I get now, (when n = 1) and string! for (when n = 5).
How can I point to a string and get only the nth word, without any
contiguous punctuation getting in the way?  
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RE: Easier way to do text-movement algorithm?

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Powell
Jim:

Have you considered inserting token characters that can be used as
itemdelimiters?  In a stitching application I am working on now, I am using
a ` character to delimit streams of text into sections to do just the block
manipulation you describe.  I further delimit sections into subsections with
a tab delimiter, and subs into subsubs with comma delimiters.  I prefilter
the stream and substitute legitimate tick marks (and tabs and commas) with
alias strings, which I filter back out on output.   It is kludgey, but it
works well for me.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jim Witte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Easier way to do text-movement algorithm?


   I'm making an source code rearrangement application...
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RE: Bug with quote and put URL

2003-07-28 Thread Mark Powell
You might check to see that Excel is not adding quotes unilaterally during
export.  I know it encloses a cell with quotation marks if a comma is in a
cell, and it may do so under other circumstances.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: François Cuneo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bug with quote and put URL 


Hello everybody!
I have a not very funny bug to present:-)
Here is the code and it works perfectly:

*
set the itemdelimiter to tab
put item 1 to -2 of chemin into chemin
put chemin /Data/French.rev into cheminloc1


--  IMPORTATION Des FICHIER FRANCAIS (FRENCHOBJ.TXT et FrenchMsg.txt) VERS
--  LES CHAMPS DE LA CARTE 2
   
 
put put URL QUOTEfile: cheminloc1 QUOTE into field  QUOTE
messagesQUOTEof card id 1032 of me  into fich_a_importer
 
do fich_a_importer

delete line 1 of fld Objets of card id 1032 of me --j'efface le titre de
la liste
*
 
OK, all the file is correctly in the field Messages, fine.

The imported text is a tabuled text.

If I have in the text ((tab) it's when I use the tabkey):

coucou (tab) gag (tab) haha

all is good BUT if the text is with a quote:

coucou (tab) gag (tab) haha

I obtain double quote!!

coucou (tab) gag (tab) ahaha

gr.

Shure it a bug!

No?? It's me???


Thank you to say why!!!
Friendly

François
-- 
François Cuneo
Site Web dédié au Macintosh http://www.cuk.ch
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Extracting from Excel and Access

2003-07-24 Thread Mark Powell
Can anyone give me a pointer as to how to perform the following 2
pseudo-procedures

-1-
Open Excel file 'foo.xls'
Copy all the fields of sheet blah as text
put it into a var

-2-
Open Microsoft Access file 'foo.mdb'
Copy Table 'blah' as text
put it into a var

I am on Windows 2000 and I am not currently interested in querying the
contents of either.  I just want to extract and ruminate within Revolution.

Thanks in advance

Mark Powell
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Wild card searches

2003-07-23 Thread Mark Powell
Is there any way to do wild card searches of the following pseudo-form?

Look at a bunch of text and delete all chunks bracketed by ! and /!
(for example, it should delete both !m/! and !030924/! and leave nothing
behind.

Thanks in advance

Mark Powell
  
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RE: Wild card searches

2003-07-23 Thread Mark Powell
Hi Alex:

Thanks for the pointer.  However, it seems to be treat delimiters funkily,
assuming only one hit per line.  (e.g. the following returns apple x
instead of apple banana carrot x.

on mouseup
  put apple  tab  \
  !nice/!banana  tab  \
  !031110/!carrot  tab  \
  !f/!x into myBefore
  answer replaceText(myBefore, !.+/!, empty)
end mouseup

Any ideas?  I want to delete _all_ occurrences of !whatever! strings.

Mark Powell




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RE: Disappear script editors

2003-07-20 Thread Mark Powell
I switch apps through the task bar and when I return to Revolution, the
script editor is always hidden behind the stack window.  (The script editor
window does show in the Revolution Window menu.)   I am not hitting Return
or Enter or Alt-Tab.  I am on Windows 2000.  It is a two click operation...I
am in the script editor, click on a (say) Note Pad document in the taskbar,
and immediately click back on the stack button in the taskbar, and the
script editor is gone.

It is behavior that is completely unintuitive and am assuming it is
something in my settings or operations.  But kick me in the teeth if I know
what.

Mark


This never happens to me either...

Is it possible you are hitting the Return key? Hitting return will 
apply the changes in the script editor, and hitting Return again will 
close the script editor.

If you look in the Window menu in Revolution- is the script editor open 
 just hidden by another window?

What version of Windows are you running? How are you switching apps? 
task bar, Alt-Tab, something else?

Alex Rice, Software Developer
Architectural Research Consultants, Inc.
http://ARCplanning.com

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RE: Disappear script editors

2003-07-20 Thread Mark Powell
Hi Howard:
Thanks for the sanity check!  It isn't just me!  I will try your suggestion,
but am sure that it will prompt me to finally insist that my management
installed a second monitor for me.  Having a two (or three!) monitor setup
is vital with Director and Photoshop type apps and it is proving to be the
same with Revolution.
Thanks all for the help.
--Mark

-Original Message-
From: Howard Bornstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:29 PM

I switch apps through the task bar and when I return to Revolution, the
script editor is always hidden behind the stack window.  (The script editor
window does show in the Revolution Window menu.)   I am not hitting Return
or Enter or Alt-Tab.  I am on Windows 2000.  It is a two click
operation...I
am in the script editor, click on a (say) Note Pad document in the taskbar,
and immediately click back on the stack button in the taskbar, and the
script editor is gone.

Mark,

I just verified that the same thing happens on my Windows 2000 system. 
The script editor isn't really gone but is placed behind the stack.

If you leave the script editor visible somewhere on your screen, you can 
just click in it to get back into Rev with your editor showing, rather 
than using the taskbar to get back to Rev.

That's the way I do it.

Regards,

Howard Bornstein

D E S I G N  E Q
www.designeq.com


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RE: Image recognition tool

2003-07-19 Thread Mark Powell
As I understand it, Revolution can ready binary data, which suggests there
that you would have the ability to compare two files.  Others would know
this better than I.

-Original Message-
From: Sannyasin Sivakatirswami [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Image recognition tool


Probably too much to ask... but does anyone think that there would a 
way for revolution to determine if one image was a duplicated of 
another? I mean, not by file name but from the image data itself?


Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
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www.HinduismToday.com
www.Gurudeva.org
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Script Editor Menu Reference not clickable

2003-07-18 Thread Mark Powell
When I try to access the docs for the Script Editor Menu Reference, the the
cursor does not turn to browse over the links.  For example, the File menu
(Script Editor) type links are not clickable.  Any way of remedying this?
Thanks.

Mark Powell
Production Manager
VERITAS Education
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Disappear script editors

2003-07-18 Thread Mark Powell
I am new to Revolution and am on Windows 2000.  When I switch from a Rev
script editor window or help window to the window of another application and
then return to Revolution, the window is always gone.  Can I adjust a
setting somewhere so that windows will stay put when I go in and out of
Revolution.  It is extremely annoying.

Mark Powell
Production Manager
VERITAS Education
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Creating a DSN for ODBC access

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Powell
I am on Windows 2000, and have a relatively small Microsoft Access database
that I want to point to and extract raw data.  I am stumped at square one. I
would like to use the path instead of a DSN to address the database,
something like

get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,,pathToFile)

However this doesn't seem to work.  Is it required that I use a DSN for ODBC
access?  I am not understanding the advantages of having to do this and am
confounded by the interface of the Data Sources control panel that the docs
point to.  (BTW, I am a RunRev newbie, but with years of HyperCard
development in the early 90s--this product is my dream come true).  

Any help appreciated!

Mark Powell
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