Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?
On 01 Jul 2007, at 07:42, Chipp Walters wrote: -- snip -- - Battery good for only 400 charges, then you have to return the phone to Apple (what do you do for a phone while it's getting a new battery replacement? -- snip -- FYI : http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macword/2007/07/ iphonebattery/index.php Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
extra mousedown messages
Hi All, Having had some problems caused by extra messages generated in certain cases, I started hunting them down. For this I used the following recipe: - create a mainstack and add a push button and a field with locktext true. - set the script of the card or the stack to: on mousedown if the optionkey is down then put exit to top end if put mousedown the target the millisecs cr after msg end mousedown on mousedoubledown put mousedoubledown the target the millisecs cr after msg end mousedoubledown - try performing a mousedubbledown and keep the mouse down - then release the mouse button and observe what happens Seemingly it gives the same results on Win32 and on MacOSX. I'll give the results with a push button: in rev 1.1: mousedown button New Button 1 1178096016059 mousedoubledown button New Button 1 1178096016178 -- mouse released : no further messages in rev 2.1: mousedown button Button 1 1178096229057 mousedoubledown button Button 1 1178096229203 mousedoubledown card id 1002 1178096229208 -- mouse released : no further messages in rev 2.5.1: mousedown button Button 1178096730853 mousedoubledown button Button 1178096731000 mousedoubledown card id 1002 1178096731013 -- mouse released -- mousedown button Button 1178096731733 in rev 2.8.1 mousedown button Button 1178096881969 mousedoubledown button Button 1178096882131 mousedoubledown card id 1002 1178096882145 -- mouse released -- mousedown button Button 1178096883161 Question: is this considered normal behavior? PS: this is not the only condition extra messages are generated. TIA. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: TARGET bug..please check
Hi, For what it is worth, as there is still a focus problem with the answer dialog box in rev 2.8.1 on OS X (it still needs 2 clicks), I added a focus on line to the script after which it seems to work more or less normally here (in OS X), the selecting part that is. on closeField if the text of the target is not empty and the text of the target is not a number then beep answer Please enter a number. focus on the target select text of the target end if end closeField Greetings, Wouter On 01 May 2007, at 04:25, Chipp Walters wrote: I've discovered what I believe is to be a significant bug in the latest release version of 2.8 and would like to verify before I post it. The bug has to do with a simple target expression and has to do with existing groups on a card. It's very easy to test, if you don't mind please check it on your system and let me know what you find. Thanks in advance. put into the message box and hit return: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/chippstuff/TargetBUG.rev; best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: TARGET bug..please check
On 01 May 2007, at 22:07, Chipp Walters wrote: Whoops! Spoke too fast. Wouter, thanks for the 'focus on the target' but it doesn't work with the following stack. Check it out: put in the message box and hit return. go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/chippstuff/TargetBUG2.rev; Turns out if there is a LIST field on a lower layer, the 'focus on the target' just doesn't work. I'll post to bugzilla. -Chipp Hi again, That is why I used more or less. The workaround I normally use to not let the updates by the engine screw up the intentions of a script (because this case is no real exception), is to get behind those updates. Something like this: on closeField if the text of the target is not empty and the text of the target is not a number then beep put the id of the target into tTarId answer Please enter a number. -- the amount of millisecs may be related to processor speed send epilogue tTarId to me in 10 millisecs end if end closeField on epilogue x focus on control id x select text of control id x end epilogue ps: and in this particular case I would add an exitfield handler Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: TARGET bug..please check
On 02 May 2007, at 04:06, Chipp Walters wrote: Wouter, Yep, I ended up doing something along the lines of what you and Ken suggested. Though, why do you suggest adding an exitField handler? Just in case? -Chipp Chipp, Not really just in case. Your second example stack will not have the modal functioning without an exitfield handler. Once the dialog box is dismissed another field can be focussed (which was not the case in your first example stack). In OS X that is, I don't have a winbox here to test. on exitfield closefield end exitfield will force the re-evaluation from the closefield handler. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Identifying an IP address
JB,
On 06 Apr 2007, at 11:06, jbv wrote:
-snip-
yes, I'm using Regex :
put (\d{1,3}\.){3}\d{1,3} into myRegex
get matchtext(myIP , myRegex)
but this one detects only 4 patterns of 1 to 3 digits separated
by dots, hence my original concern : it will also include non
valide IPs such as 999.999.999.999, as well as private IPs...
if you want to check an ip number without a port number attached try
this:
put ^((\d|[01]?\d\d|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.){3}(\d|[01]?\d\d|2[0-4]\d|25
[0-5])$ into myRegex
Greetings,
Wouter
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Re: If the visible of the menubar is true?
On 01 Nov 2006, at 04:13, Ken Ray wrote: On 10/31/06 9:01 PM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/31/06 8:48 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wouter wrote: On Mac OS X (didn't test in OS 9) you can use the following to test for the visible of the menubar: put the menubar is not hidden or put the menubar is hidden hidden? Wow. Never would have guessed that one. Is that token used for any other element in the language? I wonder why visible is not used for the menubar as it is for everything else... Actually you *can* use it, like: put the menubar is visible put the menubar is not visible actually this won't work correctly (my fault for not testing thoroughly (I confess)) try: menubar visible : put the menubar is visible/hidden -- false menubar hidden: put the menubar is visible/hidden -- false But you *can't* use it this way: put the visible of the menubar put the visible of menubar -snip- Ken Ray Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: If the visible of the menubar is true?
Hi, On Mac OS X (didn't test in OS 9) you can use the following to test for the visible of the menubar: put the menubar is not hidden or put the menubar is hidden Greetings, Wouter On 31 Oct 2006, at 21:05, David Bovill wrote: How do you do that? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Re: Filthy Apples
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Home/E83D58B3-10E0-4A9C-8847- BCE665EE235C.html On 28 Sep 2006, at 21:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2006/september#tue-26-recycles Gr W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: mouse scrolling wheel
On 24 Jul 2006, at 11:18, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Some mouses come with a scrolling wheel. Is there any way to capture the rotation of the wheel in Rev ? All the best! Viktoras on rawkeyDown x put true into tPass switch x case 65308 --scroll down -- do something -- put false into tPass -- if no further passing needed break case 65309 -- scroll up -- do something -- put false into tPass -- if no further passing needed break end switch if tPass then pass rawKeyDown end rawKeyDown Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Internal security of Rev?
On 14 Jul 2006, at 09:25, Kay C Lan wrote: - snip - In the last financial year it was noted that the revenue figures were up, better than expected. After a little analysis of the number the reason revealed itself. Although 'users' had occasionally lost their parallel dongles, the USB dongles proved at lot easier to loose! As my brother would say to some poor sap who would be trying to get a new dongle without paying for a whole new license fee would say: Go into Harry Winston's and tell them your wife lost her $80,000 diamond ring and that you'd like a free replacement As for giving a reason to someone to crack your software, this is an excellent one. It resembles (or rather is) software hijacking. I'm sure there are ways to identify people who lost their dongle (for example: traces of banking in the act of the legal acquisition of the software), instead of forcing them to pay again for the software and a new dongle combo. And to complete the above comparison, I also would not buy a $80,000 diamond if a dongle was needed for wearing it in the first place. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: stack for importing Fireworks documents to Rev
On 07 Jun 2006, at 09:06, Jim Ault wrote: On 6/6/06 10:53 PM, Josh Mellicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is: http://revcoders.org/import_fw.rev I am sure this was a lot of work. Thanks for the example link, Josh, but I cannot download the file, Safari only displays the text version of it, which is not the operating stack. -snip- Maybe you know the trick to getting this on OSX 10.4.6 To get a stack when safari is downloading the text version of it is: enter the url again with the option (alt) key down. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Strange output of shellman xyz on OS X
On 31 May 2006, at 12:52, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Alex, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Bill, Underscore. The boxes are backspace characters. Aha, thanks :-) Any hints on how to clean up this to display this nicely in a Rev field? You do it based on the backspaces (numtochar(8))s. Depends how nicely you need it. VERY nice :-) -snip- Hi, from an old project for what it is worth (will display the manpage as in the terminal): (beware of the mail wraps!!!) set the htmltext of fld somename to prepMan(raw manpage) local lC function prepMan pMan if the keys of lC = then preplC put numtochar(8) into tx set the casesensitive to true put into tChars put p into tList repeat for each char i in pMan if i = cr then put numtochar(13) into i if i = space then put numtochar(14) into i if tChars[1] = then -- may not be tx if i = tx then next repeat else put i into tChars[1] end if else if tChars[2] = then -- must be tx if i = tx then put i into tChars[2] else put chartonum(tChars[1]) into a put lC[a] after tList put i into tChars[1] end if else if tChars[3] = then -- may not be tx if i tx then put i into tChars[3] else put chartonum(tChars[1]) into a put lC[a] after tList put into tChars end if else if tChars[4] = then -- must be tx for sequence if i = tx then put i into tChars[4] else if tChars[1] = tChars[3] then put blC[chartonum (tChars[3])]/b after tList else if tChars[1] = _ then put ulC[chartonum (tChars[3])]/u after tList else if tChars[1] = + and tChars[3] = o then put ulC[chartonum(tChars[3])]/u after tList else put lC[chartonum(tChars[3])] after tList put into tChars put i into tChars[1] end if else if tChars[3] = i then put blC[chartonum(i)]/b into tTemp if tChars[1] = _ then put u tTemp /u into tTemp put tTemp after tList put into tChars end if end if end if end if end repeat return tList /p end prepMan on preplC repeat with i = 33 to 255 put numtochar(i) into fld temp ### hidden field put char 4 to -5 of the htmltext of fld temp into lC[i] end repeat put /p cr p into lC[13] -- cr more readable in the debugger put space into lC[14] end preplC Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Now a TCP Question
On 27 May 2006, at 10:38, Jim Ault wrote: -snip- If anyone is interested, I can post a report here, otherwise I will not waste the list bandwidth in this niche application of Rev. The power and flexibility of Revolution has not ceased to amaze me. Jim Ault Las Vegas -snip- We/I are/am very interested how you will tackle the packet integrity, packet loss, packet order on UDP connection - server and client-wise. Please spoil some bandwidth on this and keep it posted here. TIA + greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Now a TCP Question
Thank you Alex for this explanation. Greetings, Wouter On 27 May 2006, at 17:43, Alex Tweedly wrote: -very big snip- -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mysterious Processor Use?
Hi, Did you use a player? I observed that using a player to play a sound only once in version 2.7.1-dp-4 pushes the cpu time to about 30% and keeps it there. Greetings, Wouter On 21 Apr 2006, at 04:31, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Stephen Barncard wrote: I'm looking at the activity monitor on my system and it says Revolution is using about 30% of the processor, yet there is no apparent activity taking place (pendingmessages is empty). Throbbing default button? None that I've placed. It's Rev 2.7 if that matters. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Removing password/passkey from stack
On 27 Mar 2006, at 18:26, Robert Brenstein wrote: -snip- From the menu bar, all the File Save options are dimmed, so I cannot save the stack I cannot add a field or button to the stack I cannot move the location of a control. Did you check the cantmodify of stack myStack? I should be false Did you toplevel stack myStack? Some styles prevent editing. Pray tell, what am I doing wrong? Burrton Woodruff Ripple Software -snip- Robert Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: MVC in Rev?
On 24 Mar 2006, at 06:08, Mark Wieder wrote: thierry- Thursday, March 23, 2006, 3:08:56 AM, you wrote: http://atomicobject.com/media/files/PresenterFirst.pdf ...that file is damaged and cannot be repaired... Not sure, it opens up nicely in Safari. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Get a handler from a script
Hi David, On 22 Mar 2006, at 12:53, David Burgun wrote: Hi, Nice Script! There is just one thing I don't understand? What are the: get /* i Statements for? /* this is a comment as is this */function whatever return something end whatever This is to force the tokenizing. The script is parsed line by line. The first line of the block comment will be eliminated by token 1 to - 1 of i But the first token of the second line of the block comment will be the first word -- as By adding a /* in front of that line the first token will be function Thanks a lot All the Best Dave Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Box ?
On 23 Mar 2006, at 00:25, thulme wrote: openFile myfile.txt put the result I get: Message execution error: Error description: Handler: can't find handler Hi Thulme, This means you should have a handler on openFile or you can enter in the msg box: open file myfile.txt Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Get a handler from a script
on Sun Mar 19 16:12:57 CST 2006 Geoff Canyon wrote: Unfortunately for anyone attempting this task, this is a perfectly valid script: /* this is a comment as is this */on mouseUp answer yes end mouseUp This style of commenting shows rev's inability to parse for handler names there after. Have a look at the handler list field of the revscripteditor. Take a multi handler script and comment the second handler like mentioned by Geoff above. On reopening the same script in the editor, only the first handler will show in the handler list field. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Get a handler from a script
on Sun Mar 19 16:12:57 CST 2006 Geoff Canyon wrote: /* this is a comment as is this */on mouseUp answer yes end mouseUp Another problem with this kind of commenting is shown in the following cases: /* this is a comment as is this */-function whatever return something end whatever /* this is a comment as is this */--function whatever return something end whatever Both will compile without throwing an error. Only the second one is a valid comment Greetings, Wouter PS another little update (beware of the mail line wraps): function retrieveActiveHandlers pScript put true into tFlag repeat for each line i in pScript if char 1 to 2 of word 1 of i = /* then put false into tFlag else if tFlag and token 1 of i is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of i cr after tList else if tFlag = false then if (char 1 of word 1 of i is # or char 1 of word 1 of i is - ) and */ is in i then put true into tFlag get /* i if tFlag and token 1 of it is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of it cr after tList end if else repeat for each token j in i if j is */ then put true into tFlag get /* i if tFlag and token 1 of it is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of it cr after tList exit repeat end if end if end repeat end if end if -- end repeat return tList end retrieveActiveHandlers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Combined Events
for example: on returninfield mousedown end returninfield Greetings, Wouter On 21 Mar 2006, at 17:03, Jeff Honken wrote: Is there any way to combine events so you don't have to have redundant code. I would like the same code to run on both the on returnInField and on mouseDown events. Jeff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Combined Events
Hi Jeff, This should work if the locktext and the traversalon of the field are true: on returnInField mousedown end returnInField on mouseDown answer Hello cr the millisecs end mouseDown W. On 21 Mar 2006, at 17:39, Jeff Honken wrote: Wouter, Thank you for the reply but I'm a little confused with your answer. I want the same code answer Hello to run in a field no matter if I click on the field with the mouse or press the enter key in the field and I don't want to: on returnInField answer Hello end returnInField on mouseDown answer Hello end mouseDown What I would like is something like this that will work: on returnInField or mouseDown answer Hello end returnInField or mouseDown ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Get a handler from a script
On 20 Mar 2006, at 02:12, Geoff Canyon wrote: I feel like the harbinger of doom here (with Alex as my able partner in doomsaying) but: This would still be subject to failure if, anywhere in the script, / * or */ appeared _not_ as block comment delimiters, but as part of a string. gc -snip- and what about this first draft ?: on mouseUp put removeBlockComments(the script of me) into fld 1 end mouseUp /* this is a comment #as is this */function removeBlockComments pText --toggle the # put true into tFlag repeat for each line i in pText if char 1 to 2 of word 1 of i = /* then put false into tFlag end if if tFlag and token 1 of i is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put i cr after tList else if tFlag = false then if char 1 of word 1 of i is # and */ is in i then put true into tFlag get /* i if tFlag and token 1 of it is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of it cr after tList next repeat end if end if repeat for each token j in i if j is */ then put true into tFlag get /* i if tFlag and token 1 of it is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of it cr after tList exit repeat end if end if end repeat end if end repeat return tList end removeBlockComments greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Get a handler from a script
A little update. And beware of the mail wraps On 20 Mar 2006, at 10:50, Wouter wrote: -snip- /* this is a comment #as is this */function removeBlockComments pText --toggle the # put true into tFlag repeat for each line i in pText if char 1 to 2 of word 1 of i = /* then put false into tFlag end if if tFlag and token 1 of i is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of i cr after tList else if tFlag = false then if char 1 of word 1 of i is # and */ is in i then put true into tFlag get /* i if tFlag and token 1 of it is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of it cr after tList next repeat end if end if repeat for each token j in i if j is */ then put true into tFlag get /* i if tFlag and token 1 of it is among the items of on,function,setprop,getprop then put token 1 to -1 of it cr after tList exit repeat end if end if end repeat end if end repeat return tList end removeBlockComments Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Get a handler from a script
On 19 Mar 2006, at 21:51, Mark Wieder wrote: -snip- Here's a line I learned from Jerry Daniels: filter tScript with [ofsgOFSG][nueNUE][ ntNT]* Will also keep lines which start with set and sen like in: set the itemdelimiter to tab send mouseup to me or lines which start with a combination of those characters like in: sendSomeCommand paramX suntanLotion skincomplex -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DRM for Images and Text in Stacks
Hi Sivakatirswami, On 07 Mar 2006, at 10:42, Sivakatirswami wrote: Dream with me for a moment: -snip- Insights anyone? A possibility to protect your images is to encrypt them using a blowfish or another algo (included in the enterprise version) and put the result into fields or custom props (or whatever container of your choice). The code to deencrypt this pictures and place them in their respective image containers is kept in the password protected stack. The necessary key to deencrypt when loading a encrypted pict stack: - may be burried somewhere in the stack (or somewhere else) - must be supplied (dialog box or internet connection) The last system will need the most time to crack. So there is no real need for a special plugin. Sivakatirswami Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript
On 28 Feb 2006, at 03:55, Dick Kriesel wrote: -snip- A rugged id is a native long id stripped of any of group id clauses and of stack clauses, intended for use within a single stack. A rugged long id is a native long id stripped of any of group id clauses, intended for use across multiple stacks. Thank you for the definitions. On 28 Feb 2006, at 11:21, Dick Kriesel wrote: On 2/28/06 2:06 AM, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getProp uRuggedID get the long id of the target if word 1 of it is card then return word 1 to 3 of it if card is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it word -7 to -4 of it) return word 1 to 3 of it end uRuggedID getProp uRuggedLongID get the long id of the target if word 1 of it is among the words of card stack then return it if card is among the words of it then return (word 1 to 3 of it word -7 to -1 of it) return (word 1 to 3 of it word -3 to -1 of it) end uRuggedLongID What about a control on a card in a substack? this could do (partly): getprop uRuggedID get the long id of the target -- if word 1 of it is card then return word 1 to 3 of it if word 1 of it is among the words of card stack then return it if card is among the words of it then put num of words in char 1 to offset(of card id,it) + 1 of it into tStart return (word 1 to 3 of it word tStart to tStart + 3 of it) end if return word 1 to 3 of it ### end uRuggedID getprop uRuggedLongID get the long id of the target if word 1 of it is among the words of card stack then return it if card is among the words of it then put num of words in char 1 to offset(of card id,it) + 1 of it into tStart return (word 1 to 3 of it word tStart to -1 of it) end if return (word 1 to 3 of it word -3 to -1 of it) ### !!! end uRuggedLongID ###: I'm not sure about the necessity of the last return statements in the getprop handlers. (I leave them out) !!!: the last return statement of the uRuggedLongID still needs to be adapted if it must stay in, but I cannot imagine on what kind of long id it would be applicable. So please jump in if you know. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript
On 28 Feb 2006, at 15:27, wouter wrote: -snip- Some corrections: getprop uRuggedID get the long id of the target if word 1 of it is stack then return word 1 to 2 of it ### in case it is a substack if word 1 of it is card then return word 1 to 3 of it if card is among the words of it then put num of words in char 1 to offset(of card id,it) + 1 of it into tStart return (word 1 to 3 of it word tStart to tStart + 3 of it) end if -- return word 1 to 3 of it ### this wouldn't do in case of a substack end uRuggedID getprop uRuggedLongID get the long id of the target if word 1 of it is among the words of card stack then return it if card is among the words of it then put num of words in char 1 to offset(of card id,it) + 1 of it into tStart return (word 1 to 3 of it word tStart to -1 of it) end if -- return (word 1 to 3 of it word -3 to -1 of it) end uRuggedLongID Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] HOOT: Hacked Object Oriented Transcript
On 27 Feb 2006, at 23:06, Dick Kriesel wrote: -snip- ... set the uPropertyThatRefersToARevObject of the target \ to the uRuggedID of tRevObject ... getProp uRuggedID put the long id of the target into tLongID if word 1 of tLongID is not stack then -- note: stacks do not have rugged ids put word 1 to 3 of tLongID into tRuggedID put offset( of card id quote,tLongID) into tOffset if tOffset 0 then put char tOffset to offset(space,tLongID,tOffset) - 1 \ of tLongID after tRuggedID end if end if return tRuggedID end uRuggedID Comments? Rugged id's are a good idea but this handler will not do the trick. And it is difficult to deduce from this handler from where to where or which parts of the long id is what you call the rugged id. -- Dick Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Offscreen Screencapture? -- issues that affect image rendering
May be this thread can shed some light on the problem: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-January/ 028585.html (follow upstream for history) Greetings, Wouter On 03 Feb 2006, at 22:45, Richard Gaskin wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: Richard, Are you using MC or RR? If MC, then can you try on RR? thx Richard Gaskin wrote: Crashes here with a kernel protection fault: OS X 10.4.4 PowerBook G4 1Ghz - snip - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Offscreen Screencapture? -- issues that affect image rendering
This will still crash in certain cases. Because a stack with its cantmodify set to true and which buffered state is not true, cannot be forced to update its screenbuffer. The effectiveness of a screen buffer update can be seen in the difference between the pixmapID of a stack and the windowID of a stack. If those numbers are the same the stack is NOT buffered and the handler will crash gloriously. Greetings, Wouter On 04 Feb 2006, at 00:07, Richard Gaskin wrote: Works great in your version. I double-checked the differences between your code and the code on Ken's site, and I found that if I just move the line that restores the alwaysBuffer of the stack to after the export, it works: on mouseUp put /Applications/MetaCard/_testers/export wd buffer.rev into tStack put /Users/richardgaskin/Desktop/stackimage.png into tPath put PNG into tType ExportCard tStack, tPath, tType end mouseUp on ExportCard pStackPath,pExportPath,pImageType -- pStackPath is the path to the stack whose card you want to export -- pExportPath is where you want the image to go -- pImageType is one of the three formats supported by the export -- command: paint, png or jpeg put the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath into tOldBuffer -- The next two lines force the current card image -- into the offscreen buffer set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to false set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to true create invisible image -- Here's the 'meat' of the handler: set the imagePixMapID of last image to \ (the pixMapID of stack pStackPath) select last image --!NOT HERE set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to tOldBuffer do export pImageType to file pExportPath delete last image -- HERE INSTEAD: set the alwaysBuffer of stack pStackPath to tOldBuffer choose browse tool end ExportCard -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: getExif
Thanks for this stack UDI. (TIFF in the future?) Greetings, Wouter On 09 Jan 2006, at 19:20, UDI wrote: Exif data reader. Not support TIFF. All script is public domain. Have fun. http://homepage.mac.com/udi/stack/getExif10.hqx UDI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/udi/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] .ds_store Messing Up ZIP
Or use CleanArchiver, which is freeware and can compress to the following formats: gzip bzip2 zip DiskImage Stuffit StuffitX Greetings, Wouter On 04 Jan 2006, at 02:21, Ton Kuypers wrote: I use Stuffit to create SIT files for distribution to Macs and ZIP files for distribution to Windows users... And Stuffit has got an option NOT to copy these pesky hidden files... Works perfect, can advice it to anyone! Warm regards, Ton Kuypers Digital Media Partners bvba Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530 Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04 http://www.dmp-int.com On 4-jan-06, at 01:14, Scott Rossi wrote: I've been plagued by this enough that I thought I would ask... For me, creating simple ZIP archives on Mac systems that contain a few files is usually straightforward. However, I often find that when the ZIP archives starts to contain nested subfolders, I often wind up with invisible .ds_store files that corrupt the archive when it comes time to decompress on Windows systems. The only recourse seems to be to move folders over to Windows, delete any .ds_store files, and compress there. Is there any Mac utility out there that allows one to poke around inside a ZIP archive to delete these extraneous .ds_store files? Or even better, some way to tell Stuffit to ignore/delete these files in the first place? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Christmas e-cards as learning tools
Hi Scott, A very nice stack as usual. But it showed a problem on my slowbook (titanium 400 mhz) driven by mac osx. The start and end values of the scrollbars are from high to low. This forces the engine to set the thumbsize to -0. When the showvalue of the scrollbars is true (indicated by the gray line formed by the ticks) it will slow revolution down to an unresponsive condition. On my rig the unaltered stack uses over 80 % of cpu time and it takes several seconds (10 - 15) for each frame to show. The remedy is to reverse the start and endvalues of the scrollbars (from low to high) or turn off the showvalue. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow... Greetings, W. On 15 Dec 2005, at 13:18, Scott Rossi wrote: -snip- Here's one way. Execute the following in your message box (not a Web browser): go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/flurry.rev; -snip- There is some kind of intermittent bug that causes a random triangle to appear every once in a while -- not sure where this comes from. At first it was annoying but it has now started to resemble lightning for me. :-) to stop the lightning: in the runFlurry handler comment out the following line: if tShift then repeat for each line L in tPoints put L after tempSet add -H to item 2 of line -1 of tempSet #if L then put cr after tempSet end repeat --delete last char of tempSet comment out put tempSet into tPoints end if Happy Holidays. Scott Rossi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Christmas e-cards as learning tools
On 15 Dec 2005, at 18:17, Scott Rossi wrote: -snip- Good to know, thanks. What version of Rev is this? RR 2.1.6 Tested for this problem (slowdown by thumbsize 0 or start - end value descending order) down to RR 2.1 All problematic on slower macs (depending also on the graphics card). -snip- Thanks for the fix -- it's been added to the posted stack. go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/flurry.rev; Do the modifications make it work correctly on your side? Yes, works fine Best Regards, Scott Rossi Happy snowing, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More on arrays
Hi David, To base64Encode someArray first combine someArray. Greetings, W. On 06 Dec 2005, at 16:22, David Bovill wrote: Seem to remember that an array was binary data... - but base64Encode(someArray) doesn't give you anything? Anyway to get at the value of an array to dump / send it somewhere? That is without looping over everything as in previous post? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.
Hi, Same config as Ton Kuypers same results. On closing the stack no field messages are sent. Only a suspendstack message can be trapped, usable for a workaround. Greetings, WA On 01 Dec 2005, at 10:14, Ton Kuypers wrote: Problem confirmed. MAC OS 10.4.3 Powerbook G4 Last Rev IDE and engine Hope this one gets fixed or their will be a workaround... I have this problem when a user enters name and password in a login stack and hits enter to continue... very annoying... Ton Kuypers Digital Media Partners bvba Tel. +32 (0)477 / 739 530 Fax +32 (0)14 / 71 03 04 http://www.dmp-int.com -snip- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.
On 01 Dec 2005, at 11:03, Wouter wrote: Hi, Same config as Ton Kuypers same results. On closing the stack no field messages are sent. errata: exitfield is sent. Greetings, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SHA-1 algorithm in xTalk?
On 21 Nov 2005, at 17:40, David Bovill wrote: The SSL libraries that RunRev uses should be able to do this - and I would have thought considerably faster than a native and possibly less secure Transcript implementation - no? Which is easy to do with shell() and openssl. Shao Sean will offer a pure transcript version of SHA-1 in a short time. Meanwhile one can experiment with the openssl version: (this is a mac version working on OSX 10.4.3 rev 2.6.1, never tested on other OS versions/platforms, please upload the adaptations and good luck) - for hash of a file: on mouseUp answer file choose file for hash if it then replace space with \space in it put OSSL(it) into fld 1 end if end mouseUp function OSSL pPath return word -1 of shell(openssl dgst -sha1 pPath) end OSSL - for hash of a password or other string(s): on mouseUp put OSSL(fld 1) into fld 2 end mouseUp function OSSL pText put the tempName.tmp into tPath put pText into url (file:tPath) ## adapt time according to rig (may be not necessary) wait 0 with messages return word -1 of shell(openssl dgst -sha1 tPath) end OSSL Other hashes are available -- man pages sha1 Option to sign a file by adding a flag -- man pages sha1 Other services of openssl -- man pages openssl On 21 Nov 2005, at 17:35, Alessandro Manotti wrote: Sorry if I introduce myself in this posts. Please note that md5 is no more reliable! Since it was officially cracked. Even Sha-0 was cracked, but it is far incomplete/primitive then sha-1, which is the only reliable hash system to verify digital signature, software integrity, etc... SHA-1 has been compromised too. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/sha1_broken.html http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2927 etc. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filter Command
On 21 Nov 2005, at 20:29, Gregory Lypny wrote: -snip- This seems to works fine for all my companies except for TSE 100 Index Participation Fund Units. I'm getting a lot of hits that contain TSE (Toronto Stock Exchange) in the headline but not the rest of the name. This does not happen with other long names or names that have a common proper noun (e.g., Canada Bread gives me four hits all mentioning Canada Bread and none mentioning Canada or Bread alone). Any thoughts? Have a look at the chartonum of each char in the strings of the company names to make sure there are no special chars used. Like for example hard spaces, which alter the string of a word or words if in between. Filter command goes haywire if a null character (numtochar(0)) is in a text (origin could be certain wordprocessors, databases or rev itself) Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
problem with grouped field
Hi all, I encountered some problems with grouped fields with RR 2.6.1 (but also in former versions) on OS X 10.4.1 1. problem with scroll of group starting at 32779, field disappears (at 32778 it still shows)), scroll is reset at zero. But clicking where the field is supposed to be reveals some lines. 2. problem with height of field in group if65535. The height of the field is reset to zero and starts growing again when more lines are added. Recipe: ingredients: - 1 field (no vScroll) in a group (with vScroll) - 2 buttons - 2 scripts, one for each button: on mouseUp put into fld 1 repeat with i = 1 to 3200 put i cr after tList end repeat put tList into fld 1 set the height of fld 1 to the formattedheight of fld 1 set the rect of grp 1 to 10,10,138,bottom of this cd - 50 put 32760 into a ### approximation of start of problem repeat add 1 to a set the scroll of grp 1 to a put the scroll of grp 1 into b put a cr b if a b then exit repeat wait 100 millisecs with messages if the commandkey is down or the controlkey is down then exit repeat end repeat end mouseUp on mouseUp put into fld 1 repeat with i = 1 to 65400 div the effective textheight of fld 1 put i cr after tList end repeat put tList into fld 1 set the height of fld 1 to the formattedheight of fld 1 set the rect of grp 1 to 10,10,138,bottom of this cd - 50 repeat add 1 to i put i cr after fld 1 put the formattedheight of fld 1 into a set the height of fld 1 to a put the height of fld 1 into b set the rect of grp 1 to 10,10,138,bottom of this cd - 50 put i cr a cr b lock screen unlock screen if a b then exit repeat if the commandkey is down or the controlkey is down then exit repeat end repeat end mouseUp beware of mail line wraps I wanted to ask if someone could confirm this and if this is also the case on other platforms. TIA, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Finding non-common elements in two arrays
Hi again, A little update on the intersectSpecial function -- a bit speedier and 3 results in 1 array function intersectSpecial pListA,pListB,@pR if char -1 of pListA is not cr then put cr after pListA replace cr with tab 1 cr in pListA split pListA with cr and tab repeat for each line i in pListB add 2 to pListA[i] end repeat repeat for each line i in the keys of pListA put i cr after pR[pListA[i]] end repeat return the keys of pR end intersectSpecial on mouseUp put the millisecs into zap get intersectSpecial(fld 1,fld 2,a) put the millisecs - zap if it then put * Common in both: cr a[3] after tList put * Unique in list A: cr a[1] after tList put * Unique in list B: cr a[2] after tList put tList into fld 3 else put it into fld 3 end mouseUp Greetings, Wouter On 07 Nov 2005, at 01:05, Buster wrote: function intersectSpecial pList1,pList2,pMode repeat for each line i in pList1 add 1 to a[i] end repeat repeat for each line i in pList2 add 2 to a[i] end repeat combine a with cr and tab ### elements only in pList1 -- 1 ### elements only in pList2 -- 2 ### elements in both lists -- 3 if pMode = bothCommon then put *tab3 into tFilter else if pMode = uniqueA then put *tab1 into tFilter else if pMode = uniqueB then put *tab2 into tFilter else if pMode = bothUnique then put *tab1,* tab2 into tFilter repeat for each item tFilterString in tFilter put a into b filter b with tFilterString replace char 2 to -1 of tFilterString with in b put b cr after tList end repeat return tList end intersectSpecial on mouseUp put the millisecs into zap put intersectSpecial(fld 1,fld 2,bothUnique) into fld 3 put the millisecs - zap end mouseUp May be not a real speed monster but not bad either (takes 500 millisecs for 2 fields with 25000 lines on an iMac G5 1.8 gHz) Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: question: how much info fits in a field?
Hi, Have a look in the docs - topics with filter limits (using a field with these amounts can make it/rev quite unwieldy) Greetings, Wouter On 31 Oct 2005, at 22:00, Andre Garzia wrote: Folks, I am using a field to record TCP Flow on a given port on my system by redirecting tcpflow app using appleEvents which makes much easier to debug CGI apps since all traffic is inside a nice field, the problem is, how much info can I dump into a field, I am loggin all traffic, so after couple hours browsing, I might have tons of megs, so what is the maximum ammount a field can handle before I need to dump the log to a file? Cheers andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: How trim: Bug in RegExp engine
On 25 Oct 2005, at 23:39, Thomas Fischer wrote: -snip- 3. It seems that regular expressions are to be avoided in time sensitive parts of the script anyway. Playing around a little bit I found that the RegExp solution I suggested took far more time than any other solution (by about a factor of 10 compared with the fastest solution). Probably this should be optimized in an updated version. It seems that regular expressions in Perl are by a factor 6 faster (and again 8 times faster on my PC laptop). On the other hand, this shows that those cumbersome repeat loops are surprisingly fast. The fastest is: while char 1 of testString is space delete char 1 of testString end repeat taking about 1.8 microseconds per round (11 ticks for 10 repeats), and with a string whiteSpace = tab return a loop with while char 1 of testString is in whiteSpace takes about twice as long. word 1 to -1 of testString removing whitespace at the front and the end simultaneously is only a little slower, while using token token 1 to -1 of testString takes surprisingly three times as long as using word. These timing tests are not completely fair because: while char 1 of testString is space - removes only space from front if any delete char 1 of testString end repeat word 1 to -1 of testString - removes tabs, spaces and returns from front and back of string if any token 1 to -1 of testString - removes tabs, spaces, hard spaces, and returns from front and back of string if any You compare time it takes for frontal removal of space if any with time it takes for frontal and back removal of tab and space if any or tab, space and hard space (semicolon and return) if any. To make it more fair, the time testing handlers should be equalized on the removal of tabs, spaces and hard spaces from front and back of a string. On the other hand this gives an indication of which way to use in what case. Greetings, Wouter PS for token 1 to -1 of testString - watch out for semicolon as it will be treated as a whitespace or itemdelimiter for token. In the docs is stated that (semicolon), space, return, and tab are the itemdelimiters for token. As hard spaces are also removed this listing is not complete and hard space should be added. For me it seems kind of weird to the consider (semicolon), space, (hardspace), return, and tab as itemdelimiters for token, because they are removed as being whitespaces and are not really acting as an itemdelimiter. On the other hand tokens themselves are more acting like a special kind of itemdelimiter. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constellation
Hi, Some interesting articles about outliners can be found at: http://www.atpm.com/10.12/atpo.shtml http://www.atpm.com/11.02/atpo.shtml http://www.atpm.com/11.03/atpo.shtml http://www.atpm.com/11.04/atpo.shtml http://www.atpm.com/11.06/atpo.shtml http://www.atpm.com/11.08/atpo.shtml http://www.atpm.com/11.10/atpo.shtml etc... Greetings, Wouter On 21 Oct 2005, at 21:43, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: What is an outliner? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Garzia Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:33 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Constellation On Oct 21, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: It is a fundamental Truth of the Universe (when you reach my advanced stage of life you can even afford to pontificate now and again) that everything takes longer than you think it will even when you take into account that everything takes longer than you think it will. I have told you my theory that if every project takes longer than imagined than you just go stacking them like domino tiles and hope that when you finish a easy one they will all be solved in chain reaction! :-) jokes apart, I think the best approach to get something done is 1) write a spec, something to guide you, like what problem you're trying to solve (thats an important question), how should your app behaves. 2) Adopt modular paradigm like model-view-controller, something to split GUI from code so that your code will be portable and maintainable. 3) Follow deadlines, even if you don't have one, go and create artificial one with punishments like: if I pass 10 of october without an alpha version of my new superduper rev game I shall be honor bound to drink a cup of orange juice with 3 spoons of salt 4) Always research, chances are someone created something similar to what you're trying to do, see how they did it, learn from others. For example, I love outliners and am trying to build a little one for personal use in Rev, I just downloaded everything from MORE to OmniOutliner and checked... decided I need to learn more :-) at least this is what my workflow looks... and yes, it still takes longer than planned. andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constellation's Great, But the Rev IDE Doesn't Suck
Hi Ken, Yes that is true, I couldn't test it on panther by lack of it. But should have asked around before mailing, sorry for the fuzz. Greetings, Wouter On 20 Oct 2005, at 10:31, Ken Ray wrote: - snip - Meanwhile on Mac OS X one can use shell: put shell(system_profiler -xml SPDisplaysDataType) into tXMLDisplayData and parse this pList to extract the necessary information. Actually I think this may only be on Tiger - I'm sitting here on Panther an I don't have that data type... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constellation's Great, But the Rev IDE Doesn't Suck
On 18 Oct 2005, at 19:54, Richard Gaskin wrote: David Burgun wrote: You can't seem to get any information as to how many monitors are attached, or how big the Desktop is, this affects production software too. I was actually thinking of writing an external command to handle multiple monitors, the thing that has been putting me off is that I'd have to write it for Windows too, and I have no experience of programming at that level under Windows. Please consider adding your votes to this excellent suggestion from Ben Rubinstein: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=193 Meanwhile on Mac OS X one can use shell: put shell(system_profiler -xml SPDisplaysDataType) into tXMLDisplayData and parse this pList to extract the necessary information. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
num of bgs versus num of grps
Hi All, As there is a lot to do about background groups may be this is the right time to ask about a completely undocumented feature (at least I cannot find any reference to it (and I know this is not a reference either :-)) put the number of backgrounds is different from (though the docs state group and background as equivalent)put the number of groups put the number of groups : will report the total number of groups on the current card (and not in the complete stack if it is a multicard stack) put the number of backgrounds : will report the number of groups to be found at cardlevel of a complete stack (one or multicard stack). in a 1 card stack: - If there are several groups it will report the number of groups, whether the backgroundbehavior is set or not - if there is a group in a group in a ... it will be counted as 1 group in a multicard stack: - it will report the total number of groups at cardlevel in that stack 3 groups on each of 2 cards without backgroundbehavior set to true will be reported as 6 groups - if the backgroundproperty of a group is set to true it will be counted only once 3 groups on each of 2 cards with backgroundbehavior of 1 group set to true will be reported as 5 groups Can anyone confirm this? TIA Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: importing an image from a window that is offscreen
Hi, Yes you can. Use and adapt the scripts of this thread: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-January/ 028585.html Greetings, Wouter On 12 Oct 2005, at 17:53, Lynch, Jonathan wrote: Is there any way to use the import snapshot command to take an image from a stack that is located to the right or left of the screen? Right now, when I try it, it does not work. Basically, it seems that it does not draw anything that is offscreen, and thus cannot take a picture of it. Can I force it do so? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Speed optimisation
Hi, May be this will do? (just to give an idea, can be tweaked) function newTime oldTime,addedSec set the twelvehourtime to false convert oldTime to seconds add addedSec to oldTime convert oldTime to long time if length(oldTime) = 8 then return oldTime else return 0 oldTime end newTime Greetings, Wouter On 05 Oct 2005, at 08:58, Rob Beynon wrote: Dear Colleagues, I have a function that takes a time in this format hh:mm:ss.s and to which I add a variable number of seconds, then output the updated time in the same format. hh can be greater than 24! Here's the function. Problem is, it seems slow (I need to do this call about 150,000 times each file I process). I would appreciate any insights into making this function faster function newTime oldTime,addedSec put the replacetext(oldTime,:, ) into splitTime put the first word of splitTime into h put the second word of splitTime into m put the third word of splitTime into s put s + addedSec into newSec put newSec mod 60 into remainSec put (newsec-remainSec)/60 into addedMin put m + addedMin into newMin put newMin mod 60 into remainMin put (newMin-remainMin)/60 into addedHr put h + addedHr into newHr if length(remainSec) = 1 then put 0 remainSec into remainSec if length(remainMin) = 1 then put 0 remainMin into remainMin if length(newHr) = 1 then put 0 newHr into newHr put newHr : remainMin : remainSec into newTime return newTime end newTime -- All best wishes, Rob (Created at 07:55 on 05/10/2005) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What's mdimport ?
Hi, A bit OT but a very simple way to turn spotlight off or rather prevent it from searching (and updating its database by mdimport) : - in the systemprefs -- spotlight -- Privacy - drag/add the volume(s), folders or files you don't want spotlight to search to that list This is reversible very easily. Greetings, Wouter On 16 Sep 2005, at 05:02, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Can anyone tell me what mdimport is? I'm using a Mac with OS X and a utility called Activity Monitor to monitor my CPU usage, and mdimport very often is in the 90% + range. What is this that is soaking up my CPU usage?? I think it's related to Spotlight. The spike is probably while it's indexing. Yes, it's Meta Data Import and is Spotlight doing it's indexing. I haven't had any trouble with it but one of my colleagues has. Getting more RAM helped (as it always does) but I think it might have been because he had some constantly changing folders containing thousands of text files. Whether you use Spotlight or not, I know of no way to turn it off. Welcome to Tiger. Here is a shareware utility to turn Spotlight off on http://www.fixamacsoftware.com/software/spot/index.html but if you are comfortable using Terminal, you can do it yourself http://rixstep.com/2/20050528,00.html although this description doesn't tell you how to turn it back on again if you change your mind! Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with Sort command
may be this will help: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-March/013809.html Greetings, Wouter On 05 Aug 2005, at 19:46, Luis L. Rodríguez Oro wrote: Hello The problem is(in my opinion): in transcript: árbol boca -- mistake in other languages: árbol boca the problem have repercussions on(Example): Sort lines of field Glosario if the text of field Glosario is: cuando caminemos te daré un beso bajo él árbol hasta_sacarte_un óvulo ñato the command sort return: --ERR bajo beso caminemos cuando daré hasta_sacarte_un te un árbol él ñato #65523;óvulo When really should return: árbol bajo beso caminemos cuando daré él hasta_sacarte_un ñato óvulo te un The correct is: A Á a á N n Ñ ñ ... O Ó o ó I hope that your understand my limited English. If the mistake is my, please say me!! - Revolution Email List in Espanish at: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/revolution_es/ - Lic. Luis Rodríguez Oro Programador I N S T E D - __ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10 former Re: OS X 10.4 vs. 10.3 incompatibility
The grey bar occurs if the number of ticks (divisions) is so high they cannot be drawn separately. One of the possibilities to cause this is the thumbsize = 0. But there are other possibilities, look for extreme settings, like in the end value in relation with a small thumbsize. Greetings, Wouter On 03 Aug 2005, at 03:32, John Vokey wrote: Nope. Thumbsize is 11. One other strange change: a grey bar occurs a few pixels below the slider that doesn't appear with any previous version of OS X. On 2-Aug-05, at 6:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OS X 10.4 vs. 10.3 incompatibility
Is it possible the thumbsize of the slider is 0? This tends to slow down rev enormously in Tiger (may be also in older OS but can't test it anymore) Setting it to 1 resolves this problem. Greetings, Wouter On 02 Aug 2005, at 23:55, John Vokey wrote: I have encountered a strange system incompatibility. Stacks that ran/run fine under Mac OS X 10.3.x, produce the following peculiar behaviour under 10.4.2 (whether using the MC or RR IDE). I have a slider in a group that also contains a default (throbbing) button, which is to be clicked when the slider is in the position the user wants. All is fine under 10.3.x (i.e., the button throbs and the slider tracks the mouse as the user slides it back and forth); under 10.4.2, the button s-l-o-w-l-y throbs (i.e., you can see each step of the throb animation), and the slider no longer keeps up with the mouse (i.e., it lags by a lot). It is like the whole system has been slowed down by a factor of 2 or 3 (i.e., 100 or a 1000-fold). Yet, other default buttons throb correctly. (I have no other sliders in these stacks). It is clearly not my code (indeed, I have used this group successfully since at least MC 2.2, and probably before, and on all other versions of OS X). I receive the list in digest mode, so please respond directly to me if you have any insights. -- - JRV There are 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary, and those who don't ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revDeleteFolder and Lessons Learned..
Hi all, Why patch revDeleteFolder with revDeleteFolderXXX? Why not patch this backscript in a different way? Like adding a param (and adapting the handler) : on revDeleteFolder pSrcFolder pWithoutWarning which only will run in stealth mode if the pWithoutWarning is explecitely set to true. (of course you must refrain from turning it on the first time you use it during development) Older apps will still be able to use it, but only in warning mode. Greetings, Wouter On 08 Jul 2005, at 12:03, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Dave, Well, since I passed revDeleteFolder a single / and it tried to delete (w/out being able to be interrupted) the *entire* hard disk, I would say it's less dangerous to 'roll your own'. I would expect revDeleteFolder to take as an argument a valid path, including drive letter. For instance I would expect: revDeleteFolder C:/ to delete the C drive. I don't know why just / does it and I'm afraid to test it with a null, especially since it can't be interrupted. Anything you roll on your own can be interrupted with a control-period. The non-interruptibility of the command is a huge issue, IMO, and one I'm not willing to take any more chances on. I haven't looked at the code, but as Xavier mentioned, it seems like it should be an engine level issue, not a shell call. You are certainly welcome to use it to your hearts content-- I won't be. Once burned, twice shy. best, Chipp Dave Cragg wrote: But I'm not entirely clear of the lesson to be learned. Is the problem really with revDeleteFolder, or with the nature of script locals? If we don't use revDeleteFolder, but we want to delete a folder, then we have to roll our own routines. This can be plenty dangerous too. So do we warn people not to use revDeleteFolder, and leave them to their own potentially dangerous devices. Or simply warn people to be *extremely* careful when deleting folders and check they are in fact deleting the intended folder. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: recOnline Viewer
On 08 Jul 2005, at 14:39, David Burgun wrote: Hi All, Is there anyway to stop the revOnline Viewer window from popping up everytime I launch RunRev? It is sooo annoying! It wouldn't be too bad, if there were not so many bugs in the IDE that make it necessary to relaunch RunRev. I really can't see the point of popping up this window EVERY time you launch rev, anyone else agree? I MUCH better thing to do IMHO would be to open the Application Browser on the last stack used. Now that would be useful. At the very least I reckon the display of the revOnline window should be a Preference. It is. Just my 5 cents worth All the Best Dave Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: weird influence of the gridsize and the grid on the drawing of squares by script
Thanks Jeanne, I agree with and appreciate your answer. I wish this had been mentioned on the drag command page too. Greetings, Wouter On 30 Jun 2005, at 05:02, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: At 8:45 PM +0200 6/29/2005, Wouter wrote: After reinvestigating bug 2683 for which Mark Waddingham asked a recipe, the weird influence of the gridsize and the grid on the drawing of squares by script surfaced. Will it become an undocumented feature or is this a bug? Anyway I didn't know until now. 1 new stack and 1 button with the following script will show: Wouter, I don't think this is a bug although the doc for grid could be clearer. The drag command is supposed to emulate drawing with the mouse, so it should respect the grid. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
weird influence of the gridsize and the grid on the drawing of squares by script
Hi all, After reinvestigating bug 2683 for which Mark Waddingham asked a recipe, the weird influence of the gridsize and the grid on the drawing of squares by script surfaced. Will it become an undocumented feature or is this a bug? Anyway I didn't know until now. 1 new stack and 1 button with the following script will show: on mouseUp put gridsize into tOldgridsize put the grid into tOldgrid set the grid to true ### Mark Schonewille for this detail if there is no img test then create img test set the rect of img test to 0,0,400,400 set gridsize to 1 creategrid 50,50 set gridsize to 2 creategrid 160,50 set gridsize to 3 creategrid 50,160 set gridsize to 4 creategrid 160,160 set gridsize to 6 creategrid 50,270 set gridsize to 10 creategrid 160,270 set gridsize to tOldgridsize set the grid to tOldgrid end mouseUp on createGrid x,y ### topleft of grid choose the rectangle tool set the filled to true set the brushcolor to 255,255,255 set the pencolor to 0,0,0 put 10 into tCol ### number of columns put 10 into tRow ### number of rows put 10 into tSq### tSq = size of square put 1 into tCY repeat tRow put (y + (tCY * tSq) - tSq) into tY put 1 into tCX repeat tCol put (x + (tCX * tSq) - tSq) into tX drag from tX,tY to tX + tSq ,tY + tSq add 1 to tCX end repeat add 1 to tCY end repeat choose browser tool end createGrid So when drawing by script, the gridsize and/or the grid should be taken care of. May be the influence of those settings have a bigger scope (not tested yet). Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to put a dash in front of a menu item
Hi Claudi, Putting a space in front of the dash (or any other character) could solve your problem, if you can live with a space in front of the dash that is. Greetings, Wouter On 26 Jun 2005, at 21:55, Claudi Cornaz wrote: Hi all Still working/improving my demo of a textMenu. It's almost ready. I can now also increase/decrease textsizes. Lighten/darken is just a snap away (it's the same as increase/decrease with a slight twist) and the menu displayscorrectly all attributes. There is just one thing I'd like to add to it: putting a dash in front of a menu(item). Is there a way I can achieve this? This way the user could see if a selection has mixed attributes or if it's all the same. The way I found in the documentation, and after some tests (like putting a \ in front of the - which does'n't give quite the desired effect. ) it doesn't work. As far as I discovered we can put a checkMark or a diamond in front of a menu but not a dash. I hope I am wrong, am I? In case we indeed, can't put a dash in front of a menu, wouldn't this be a usefull enhanchement? Should I, in a yet to figure out way, post this as a request? All best wishes Claudi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: repeat for each in reverse order ?
Hi, Using the following to reverse the order of lines of a field containing 525605 chars in 14194 lines reversing by: on mouseUp put fld 1 into x put the long seconds into zap repeat for each line i in x put icr before tList end repeat put the long seconds - zap put tList into fld 1 end mouseUp takes 60 seconds on a slowbook (G4 400 mhz) reversing by: on mouseUp put fld 1 into x put the long seconds into zap split x by return get the keys of x sort it numeric descending repeat for each line i in it put x[i]cr after tList end repeat put the long seconds - zap put tList into fld 1 end mouseUp yields around 0.413007 seconds on a slowbook (G4 400 mhz) (which is not too bad) The amount of chars and lines has a big influence on the speed in the first handler, while in the second handler it has not. Greetings, Wouter On 27 Jun 2005, at 14:40, Dennis Brown wrote: The repeat for each only goes in forward sequential order starting at the beginning, except for arrays where the order is indeterminate. I have requested a sequential access enhancement to allow for constructing this type of looping in a more flexible way (like parallel instantiation, starting at an arbitrary point, and reverse order), to make it possible to wander all over your data sequentially with the speed of the repeat for each method. However, it would be most useful with some improved string delimiter handling. Bugzilla # 2773 Having a reverse order repeat for each might be up to twice as slow as the forward version depending on how it is implemented, because it has to go backwards to the previous delimiter then forward to pick up the data, though it could pick up the data in reverse order on the way back. However, even twice as slow would be much faster than any other method. Dennis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cascade menus
Hi John, The behavior you see for your cascade button is because of the autoarm property. Turn it off by script, as the inspector is not showing it (at least I cannot find it in the 2.6 inspector, may be others know where it is located). Instead of the way you use the menuhistory you also could use the param of the menupick handler (which contains the label of the the tab clicked): on menuPick tWhich go tWhich set the label of me to Cascade tWhich end menuPick Greetings, Wouter On 14 Jun 2005, at 10:15, John Ridge wrote: I know from an earlier thread that there is an issue over the implementation of the cascade style (it's really intended for use in nested menus, so its standalone behaviour is non-standard - you must mouseDown *outside* the menu text before you can select a menu item). But I have an experimental stack in which it won't even do this correctly. I've uploaded it to RevOnline as Tab menu (user jmr). I'd be grateful to anyone who can tell me what is going wrong here. Unless, of course, it works perfectly on your platform! Mine is Mac OS9. -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cascade menus
Hi John, I had another look at your stack and the cascade button in question. It must have sustained some shape-shifting for its properties to be set that way. To have the cascade button work as you like, you should: - turn autoarm on - turn traversalOn off And the property inspector is lousy in this aspect (too). Better use one of the widgets available or make your own. Greetings, Wouter On 14 Jun 2005, at 18:55, John Ridge wrote: on 14/6/05 9:54 am, Wouter wrote : Hi John, The behavior you see for your cascade button is because of the autoarm property. *** Thanks, Wouter. Mind you, I'm still puzzled by the other stack in which it seems to work with autoArm set to true. What I want is a button that displays its menu as the mouse rolls over it - i.e. autoArm true. With autoArm false, the cascade turns into a humble dropdown or popup. And, as you rightly ask - why doesn't the Property Inspector give us a hint about this? OK - so many properties, so little space in the PI window. Sigh... -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cascade menus
Also have a look at Bug 1338. At2004-06-26 19:51 --- -- it was changed to enhancement In 2.6 still as buggy as ever. But if you really need cascade style buttons they can be simulated very easily. Greetings, Wouter On 14 Jun 2005, at 10:15, John Ridge wrote: I know from an earlier thread that there is an issue over the implementation of the cascade style (it's really intended for use in nested menus, so its standalone behaviour is non-standard - you must mouseDown *outside* the menu text before you can select a menu item). But I have an experimental stack in which it won't even do this correctly. I've uploaded it to RevOnline as Tab menu (user jmr). I'd be grateful to anyone who can tell me what is going wrong here. Unless, of course, it works perfectly on your platform! Mine is Mac OS9. -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bouncy Updated for 2.6
On 07 Jun 2005, at 09:36, Geoff Canyon wrote: I've updated the Bouncy stack with the Revolution graphic for 2.6. It now happily bounces around the screen with a deep mask. The engine handles it very nicely (disclaimer: handles it nicely on my 1ghz PowerBook. Please let me know how it behaves on older hardware). Wooow! Even on a slowbook (titanium 400mhz with an underpowered graphics card) it bounces very nicely (up to 3 clones). snip Regards, Geoff Canyon Inspired Logic Tnx. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: using split to build multi-dimensional arrays ?
On 07 Jun 2005, at 13:44, jbv wrote: Hi list, When I run the following script : put a,b,c,d,e into L repeat with j=1 to 2 repeat with i=1 to 5 put item i of L into W[j,i] end repeat end repeat combine W using cr and comma put W I get this : 1,1,a 1,2,b 1,3,c 1,4,d 1,5,e 2,1,a 2,2,b 2,3,c 2,4,d 2,5,e -- but when I add the 3 following lines : put W into W1 split W1 by cr and comma put W1[2,5] I get empty... Does that mean that split can't be used to build 2 dimensional arrays ? Thanks, JB Better use a different char to combine the array if you want to split it later back into an array. You used the comma already as an itemdelimiter. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the ScreenRect
Hi, There are more problems with second screens than the screenrect, see bug 2426 (mousecolor, dropper tool not picking up color on second screen). Which is still a bug in rev 2.6. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sort question
Hi Jack, You could do for example: on mouseUp get field 1 sort it set the itemdelimiter to . sort lines of it numeric ascending by item 1 of each put it into fld 2 end mouseUp Greetings, Wouter On 03 Jun 2005, at 18:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I need a field to sort numerically and when I try it I get the result below. I checked the docs and experimented with the numberformat without success. Help! jack 1.101- 10.101- 10.201- 10.301.1- 10.351- 10.401- 10.501- 11.101.1- 11.151- 2.101- 2.301- 20.101- 3.101- 4.101- 4.991- 5.101.1- 5.151- 5.201- 5.301- 5.351.1- 5.401- 5.451- 5.501- 5.651- 5.701- 6.101.1- 6.201.1- 6.301- 6.401.1- 7.101- 7.151.1- 7.201.1- 7.251- 7.401- 7.501.1- 8.101- 8.301- 9.101.1- 9.351- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sort question
On 03 Jun 2005, at 20:09, Jim Ault wrote: Greetings, jack snip on sortFldSource put fld source into tSource --lines to sort sort lines of tSource numeric by numberConvert(each) put tSource into fld destination --output for your review end sortFldSource function numberConvert pStrToConvert if pStrToConvert is then return else set itemdel to . if the last char of pStrToConvert is - then put the last char of pStrToConvert into tSign delete the last char of pStrToConvert end if put item 1 of pStrToConvert into tIntPart put item 2 of pStrToConvert into tDecPart1 if the number of items in pStrToConvert 2 then put item 3 of pStrToConvert into tDecPart2 else put into tDecPart2 end if put tSign tIntPart . tDecPart1 tDecPart2 into tReply return tReply end if end numberConvert Thanks to jeanne a. e. devoto for this (each) form of the sort lines of command. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 6/3/05 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim, I don't know on your computer but on my mac this handler gives the following result for Jack's list: 10.101- 11.151- 4.101- 5.101.1- 20.101- 11.101.1- 10.501- 10.401- 10.351- 10.301.1- 10.201- 9.351- 9.101.1- 8.301- 8.101- 7.501.1- 7.401- 7.251- 7.201.1- 7.151.1- 7.101- 6.401.1- 6.301- 6.201.1- 6.101.1- 5.701- 5.651- 5.501- 5.451- 5.401- 5.351.1- 5.301- 5.201- 5.151- 4.991- 3.101- 2.301- 2.101- 1.101- To make it more universal (no matter leading or trailing - and +) one could change it to: on mouseUp get field 1 put numsort(it,ascending) into fld 2 end mouseUp function numSort pList,pDirection set the itemdelimiter to . repeat for each line i in pList put i into x if char -1 of word 1 of i is in -+ then put char -1 of word 1 of i char 1 to -2 of word 1 of i into x if the num of items in x 2 then put item 1 to 2 of x item 3 of x into x put i into numArray[x] end repeat put the keys of numArray into y if pDirection = ascending then sort lines of y numeric ascending else sort lines of y numeric descending repeat for each line i in y put numArray[i] cr after tList end repeat return tList end numSort Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Speed of XML vs SQLite
Hi, For what it is worth, have a look at this: http://www.15seconds.com/issue/010410.htm (don't forget the first part) and at Mark Brownell's handlers and techniques as an option for rev's functions. Greetings, Wouter On 23 May 2005, at 14:57, Levi Kendall wrote: Hi all, I'm considering using XML for building a database but my concern is that for data retrieval it might become very slow as more and more data is added. Would using functions such as revXMLMatchingNode be as slow as doing a full text search of the xml or would it be at least comparable to performing a lookup in an actual database? Another speed concern would be finding a node with multiple matching attributes. Is this a good idea or would I be better off using something like SQLite? Thanks, Levi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone using Tiger Yet?
Hi, Only a small problem. On all my macs running Tiger, the triangles/arrows indicating a submenu in the revmenubar and in popup menus (like the one used in the inspector) do not show, though the submenus work. Anybody seen the same? Greetings, Wouter On 03 May 2005, at 10:34, Chris Carroll-Davis wrote: Hello all. Not seen any problems with Rev yet, but the driver for my wireless card is now broken and Photoshop won't open a dragged or double- clicked file. Other than that ok. Anyone else got any reports? Chris On 2 May 2005, at 06:34, Roger Guay wrote: Been using it for 2 days . . . no problems yet. And, I love it! On May 1, 2005, at 9:00 AM, use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 9 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 08:24:50 -0500 From: Burrton Wodruff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone using Tiger Yet? To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Folk, Anyone using Tiger with Rev yet? Any problems? Burt Woodruff RippleSoft ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays
On 28 Apr 2005, at 17:59, Dennis Brown wrote: Frank, This is a simplified algorithm that I think would best translate directly between Transcript and PostgreSQL for a time trial. Just make sure the PostgreSQL code is an item by item algorithm also. Thanks, Dennis Transcript output on my machine: 1,000,000 Element Sum = 50050 Elapsed Time = 11.467659 seconds. on mouseUp global gTestArray if number of lines of the keys of gTestArray is not 100 then --already done the init put empty into gTestArray --start with an empty a variable repeat with x = 1 to 1000 repeat with y = 1 to 1000 put x into gTestArray[x,y] end repeat end repeat end if -- put the long seconds into st Method6 get the long seconds put Elapsed Time =(it - st)seconds. after msg end mouseUp on Method6 -- Add elements using keyed arrays global gTestArray put 0 into total repeat with x = 1 to 1000 repeat with y = 1 to 1000 add gTestArray[x,y] to total end repeat end repeat put 1,000,000 Element Sum = total end Method6 -- Hi, On my slowbook (400 mhz G4) Method6 takes around 27 - 28 seconds. In this case all values are added. So if the handler is changed accordingly: on Method6 -- Add elements using keyed arrays global gTestArray put 0 into total get the keys of gTestArray repeat for each line i in it add gTestArray[i] to total end repeat put 1,000,000 Element Sum = total end Method6 It only takes between 5 - 6 seconds (on my slowbook) Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making Revolution faster with really big arrays
On 28 Apr 2005, at 17:59, Dennis Brown wrote: Frank, This is a simplified algorithm that I think would best translate directly between Transcript and PostgreSQL for a time trial. Just make sure the PostgreSQL code is an item by item algorithm also. Thanks, Dennis Transcript output on my machine: 1,000,000 Element Sum = 50050 Elapsed Time = 11.467659 seconds. on mouseUp global gTestArray if number of lines of the keys of gTestArray is not 100 then --already done the init put empty into gTestArray --start with an empty a variable repeat with x = 1 to 1000 repeat with y = 1 to 1000 put x into gTestArray[x,y] end repeat end repeat end if -- put the long seconds into st Method6 get the long seconds put Elapsed Time =(it - st)seconds. after msg end mouseUp on Method6 -- Add elements using keyed arrays global gTestArray put 0 into total repeat with x = 1 to 1000 repeat with y = 1 to 1000 add gTestArray[x,y] to total end repeat end repeat put 1,000,000 Element Sum = total end Method6 -- Hi again with a little addition, The initialization of the test array takes about 36 seconds. Following version does the same in much shorter time: on mouseUp put the long seconds into zap --if number of lines of the keys of gTestArray is not 100 then --already done the init put empty into gTestArray --start with an empty a variable repeat with i = 1 to 1000 put icomma after x end repeat repeat 1000 put x after gTestArray end repeat split gTestArray by comma put the long seconds - zap --end if put the long seconds into st Method6 get the long seconds put Elapsed Time =(it - st)seconds. after msg end mouseUp In this case the initialization takes about 10 seconds on the slowbook ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constraining the pointer
On 22 Apr 2005, at 11:53, David Glasgow wrote: Revlistas, This is a fairly lengthy preamble, so be patient. I have an assessment that may be used with people with significant motor skills problems. At a point when they have to use a rating scale I constrain the pointer so it can't 'fall' of the scale. I know this is contrary to the HIG gospel, but it works very well. As soon as they have made a legitimate rating, the pointer is released. I suspect they don't even notice what happens, because of course they don't *want* to move off the scale, it just sometimes happens with a muscular jerk or difficulty stopping a purposeful move one way or the other. Anyway, the build using 1.1.1 worked fine on Win Mac classic. I downloaded the latest Rev, and tried a build of the assessment stack. I was disappointed with how many things broke, including the first effort at an OSX build. Among the many glitches, I found that the constraining script resulted in horribly jerky and delayed mouse movements. The scale is unusable on OSX (10.3.8 - or maybe 7) but fine in classic and win. Is this an OS X thang? Well obviously it is, but is it at the Rev or OS end? The script is below: Yes it is a hack, but it works OK. (By way of explanation the field 'container' is contiguous with the scale the +4 and - 4 are just my way of adjusting the margin of error around the scale. Any suggestions as to what might be happening would be gratefully received - or any alternative suggestions as to how to obtain the same effect if within (field container,mouseloc()) = false then get the mouseloc switch case item 2 of the mouseloc the bottom of field container put (the bottom of field container -4) into item 2 of it break case item 2 of the mouseloc the top of field container put (the top of field container +4)into item 2 of it end switch switch case item 1 of the mouseloc the left of field container put (the left of field container + 4) into item 1 of it break case item 1 of the mouseloc the right of field container put (the right of field container- 4) into item 1 of it end switch put (item 1 of the topleft of this stack) + (item 1 of it) into item 1 of it put (item 2 of the topleft of this stack) + (item 2 of it) into item 2 of it set the screenmouseloc to it end if Best Wishes, David Glasgow Hi David, I don't know in which kind of control structure you used the code above, but I changed it a bit and put it inside a mousemove handler. The code seems to work without jerks or delayed mousemovements or extra overhead: on mousemove x,y get rect of fld container if x,y is not within it then if xitem 1 of it then put (item 1 of it + 4) into tX --left of field container else if xitem 3 of it then put (item 3 of it - 4) into tX --right of field container else put x into tX if yitem 4 of it then put (item 4 of it - 4) into tY --bottom of field container else if y item 2 of it then put (item 2 of it + 4) into tY --top of field container else put y into tY put (left of this stack) + tX into item 1 of tLoc put (top of this stack) + tY into item 2 of tLoc set the screenmouseloc to tLoc end if end mousemove Hope this works for you. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constraining the pointer
On 23 Apr 2005, at 00:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe that mega-IF statement is truly necessary. Try this instead: on mouseMove X,Y put the rect of fld container into Fred put min (item 3 of Fred - 4, max (item 1 of Fred + 4, X)) into X put min (item 4 of Fred - 4, max (item 2 of Fred + 4, Y)) into Y set the screenMouseLoc to (X,Y) end mouseMove If the mouseLoc is within the specified rectangle, the mouse's X co-ord will be less than item 3 of the rect, and greater than item 1 of the rect. Thus, max (item 1 of rect, the mouse X) will always result in a number *at least* as large as that item 1, and min (item 3 of rect, the mouse Y) will always result in a number *no greater than* that item 3. Plug the results of the max into a min (sorry about how that sounds, but you get the idea, right?), and you end up with a number that *must* be somewhere between item 1 of the rect and item 3 of the rect. Something similar applies to the mouse's Y co-ord, and items 2 and 4 of the rect. Hope this helps... Yeah it is a nice idea. But to make it work fluently you'll have to add at least 1 if statement and adjust the screenmouseloc coordinates by adding the left and top of the stack to x,y respectively. Otherwise you'll end up with a constrain out of the card by jump off the left side, which people with significant motor skills problems won't really appreciate. Without the if statement the x,y coordinates will be set continuously which makes it very slow and jerky, at least on my slowbook. on mouseMove X,Y put the rect of fld container into Fred if x,y is not within Fred then put min (item 3 of Fred - 4, max (item 1 of Fred + 4, X)) into X put min (item 4 of Fred - 4, max (item 2 of Fred + 4, Y)) into Y set the screenMouseLoc to (left of this stack +X,top of this stack + Y) end if end mouseMove Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RegEx Replace Text -- strip leading and trailing spaces
On 14 Apr 2005, at 01:49, Ken Ray wrote: On 4/13/05 2:47 PM, Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: get matchText(pString, (?s)^[ \t\r\n]+(.*?)[ \t\r\n]+$, tReturnVal) This will strip leading and trailing whitespace from a multiline string. But given that you say that word 1 to -1 is that much faster I am going to switch to that. Those of us still trying to break away from our previous languages like to complicate things on occasion ;) Unfortunately neither your nor the word 1 to -1 solution will take into account hard spaces (non-breaking spaces) that could be part of the whitespace on either side of the string. So to fix that, you would need to use: get matchText(pWhat, (?s)^\s+(.*?)\s+$, tReturnVal) I agree that the word 1 to -1 solution will do what you want 95+% of the time, but just wanted to make sure that everyone knew there was at least one 'hole' in that approach in case anyone cared. ;-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, lots of things happen when sleeping :-). The matchtext version is s much slower (about 30x which makes it for me a no no in an extended repeat loop). The hard space if any, can be dealt with in a one time replacement by a soft space in the container to parse, out of the repeat loop. (is the non breaking space numtochar(16)? On the mac this is mostly represented by a non-space character for most fonts (rectangle or down arrow, etc) in rev/mc) Once it is replaced the following is faster than the regex to strip only the leading spaces. Much faster when used inline in a repeat loop ( 10x faster than the regex replacetext version), less when administered by a function (around 4x faster): put word 1 to -1 of pString into x replace x with , in pString put x item 2 of pString into strippedString (or return x item 2 of pString for the function ) You could put this into a oneliner but this makes it about 2x slower than the above: return word 1 to -1 of pString item 2 of (replacetext(pString,word 1 to -1 of pString,,)) but still at least more than 2x faster than the regex replacetext version. Regards, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RegEx Replace Text -- strip leading and trailing spaces
Thanks Eric Regards, Wouter On 14 Apr 2005, at 10:54, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Wouter, Le 14 avr. 05, à 10:52, Wouter a écrit : The hard space if any, can be dealt with in a one time replacement by a soft space in the container to parse, out of the repeat loop. (is the non breaking space numtochar(16)? On the mac this is mostly represented by a non-space character for most fonts (rectangle or down arrow, etc) in rev/mc) Hard space is numToChar(202) My ASCII Picker (free utility on my web site) might help you. Amicalement, Eric Chatonet. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Message Sending Problems
On 14 Apr 2005, at 11:48, David Burgun wrote: But this results in the following error: Object: value is not a boolean Object: Arrows Line: do myDoText Hint: 1 I have checked the text in myDoText and it's fine and reads: send Increment 1 to graphic G-1027 I don't understand why I am getting this error? Any ideas anyone? change: put send Increment 1 myType the cPropTargetObjectName of me into myDoText to put send quote Increment 1 quote myType the cPropTargetObjectName of me into myDoText (there is a space in Increment 1 so rev tries to evaluate as a boolean) Also how can I get the type of an object? Is there a property for it? I can't seem to find one! put word 1 of the name of control num into tObjName or put word 1 of the name of the Target into tObjName etc. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RegEx Replace Text -- strip leading and trailing spaces
And what about a one line non regex solution like: put word 1 to -1 of x into x? (I know, not as elegant and impressive as a true regex ;-) Gr W. On 13 Apr 2005, at 12:14, Matt Denton wrote: G'day all Regular Expression syntax in ReplaceText is driving me a bit loopy right now, I was hoping someone out there could work out what I'm doing wrong... I want a single RegEx expression using ReplaceText to strip out leading and tailing spaces, leaving any spaces in the middle untouched. I've got it working in 2 lines of code, but I'm SURE I can do it in one. (I've spent an hour trying to reduce this to one line... I know, why not go for a swim or something more constructive with my time...) This works: put replaceText(tSomeText, ^ +,empty) into tFirstPass put replaceText(tFirstPass, +$,empty) into tSecondPass But when I try and combine: put replaceText(tSomeText, ^ ?| +$,empty) into tOnePass I can't get it to work!! I've tried many variations and the logic SEEMS to be right... obviously not. Anyone? I'll award the winner with a jar of Vegemite from Australia. Cheers M@ Matt Denton ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RegEx Replace Text -- strip leading and trailing spaces
On 13 Apr 2005, at 18:09, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Apr 13, 2005, at 3:14 AM, Matt Denton wrote: G'day all Regular Expression syntax in ReplaceText is driving me a bit loopy right now, I was hoping someone out there could work out what I'm doing wrong... I want a single RegEx expression using ReplaceText to strip out leading and tailing spaces, leaving any spaces in the middle untouched. Matt, I use this regex to strip whitespace: get replaceText(pString, ^[ \t\r\n]+|[ \t\r\n]+$, ) -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] No offence, but this won't strip whitespaces at both ends of a string in one pass. And it is about ten times slower for one pass than: get word 1 to -1 of pString (which does strip leading and ending whitespaces in one pass, but true it is no regex). Gr W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RegEx Replace Text -- strip leading and trailing spaces
On 13 Apr 2005, at 21:47, Trevor DeVore wrote: snip Is there a way to do ltrim (trim whitespace on left of string) in plain transcript? Right now I just use: function str_lTrim pString get replaceText(pString, ^[ \t\r\n]+, ) return it end str_lTrim -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] In plain transcript one could do: function str_lTrim pString return char 1 to -2 of word 1 to -1 of (it x) end str_lTrim But it is about 2 times slower than the regex solution in this case. So the choice is obvious :-) Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to get the difference between two lists?
On 04 Apr 2005, at 05:44, Dar Scott wrote: On Apr 3, 2005, at 9:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote: I can of course do a repeat loop through the small list and remove those items from the comprehensive list, but I'm wondering if there's a faster way to do this. Some wild ideas: 1. Convert the smaller list into a regex and use replaceText(). snip It would have been nice if the filter function was fully regex compatible then Dar's idea of turning it into a regex statement could produce something like a one-liner. For the proposed example with the current state of the filter function it needs 2 lines (not counting the lines for the preparation of the regex)3 filter tOrigList without [56] filter tOrigList without 1[18] Gr W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to get the difference between two lists?
Could you compile a oneliner regex that worked in rev's filter function? completely amazed, W. On 05 Apr 2005, at 18:58, Dar Scott wrote: On Apr 5, 2005, at 7:40 AM, Wouter wrote: It would have been nice if the filter function was fully regex compatible then Dar's idea of turning it into a regex statement could produce something like a one-liner. I tried it and it was a oneliner. It was awfully slow. It took six seconds (IIRC) for a thousand and couldn't compile the regex for 10,000. There have been several times when I tried using the replaceText() function and was surprised at how slow it was. I may be thinking about it wrong. Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming Services and Software ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to get the difference between two lists?
On 05 Apr 2005, at 20:03, Dar Scott wrote: snip // filter version function shortListDar5 pL, pEx filter pL without replaceText(pEx,\n,|) return pL end shortListDar5 Dar This was the reason I was lamenting that rev's filter command is not fully regex compatible. Your replaceText part returns a | delimited list. But the | (or) does not work in the filter command. Not as in filter x without 5|6|11|18 nor as in filter x without [56]|1[18]. The | seems even to be ignored between [ ] brackets. Gr W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sorting by date senile?
On 09 Mar 2005, at 15:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Im trying to sort a list of dates - nothing hard right? set itemdelimiter to tab sort lines of fld dateIndex datetime descending by item 1 of each The dates are in item 1 - no prob. The dates are tested with month before or after... (all days are set to 1) But what I get is this! (or backwards!) - never mind the 2nd, 3rd columns... 01/10/1932 173310 2 01/10/1908 173310 2 01/09/1908 9523814 2 01/06/1908 419840 1 01/01/2004 2415830 11 01/05/2003 6293645 115 01/01/2000 5664075122 42593 01/12/1999 6476478340 39207 01/12/1998 3215445 1245 Is this a bug? I tested this in MC first and thought this was an old but but after testing it in RR 2.5 and get the same wacky result! cheers Xavier Hi Xav, This is probably due to the dates 1970. Dates from 1970 on up to 2032 will sort correctly by your syntax. You will have to do some math, but you are good at that ;-) Gr W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sorting by date senile?
Hi, The centurycutoff system works from 1902 up. If you have earlier dates you will have to use another system. The reason is dates are calculated with the seconds. Gr W. On 09 Mar 2005, at 17:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Klaus, Awesome! But this doesn't solve a problem with the conversion of dates to dateitems prior to 1970s! I'll bugzilla that I think! Shouldn't the centurycutoff be defaulted to 00? I would seem more logical... regards, Xavier On 09.03.2005 17:00:56 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Try this one: ... set the centurycutoff to 00 sort lines of fld dateIndex datetime descending by item 1 of each ... Works here for me: 01/06/1908 xyz... 01/09/1908 01/10/1908 01/10/1932 01/12/1998 01/12/1999 01/01/2000 01/05/2003 01/01/2004 Is this a bug? I am afraid this is a feature (of some sort...) ;-) Danke Klaus! Good going! Now im much less confused - but still scared of this feature! cheers Xavier - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more rawkeydown problems
On 06 Mar 2005, at 20:04, J. Landman Gay wrote: snip I'm not sure it is a bug, it is just the differences between operating systems. The Rev engine just passes on the key codes that the operating system sends. If you have the MC IDE, see the Character Chooser in the MetaCard Tools menu for examples of these differences. Sometimes you can use the macToISO and ISOtoMac functions to translate between the character sets, but I don't think those functions work with non-ascii keystrokes. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On 07 Mar 2005, at 00:23, Sarah Reichelt wrote: snip While differences between keyboards operating systems are annoying, the keys you are checking are mostly available using other messages. In NumLock is on, the numeric keys generate arrowKey messages and if NumLock is on, the number can be read directly in a keyDown or keyUp handler. Cheers, Sarah Thank you Jacqueline, Sarah and Tobi for your responses. The rev rawkeydown handler reports a kind of mixed raw keys values: ascii code and raw code in the range between 65000 - 65999. Seeing Tobi's little app. (tnx Tobi) I'm inclined to think the values of the rawkeydown handler in rev in the region above 65000 are due to rev's own system of administering values to keys (but i'll be wrong ;-) So I'm not sure this is due only to differences between operating systems and by this not a bug. If the help key is giving a value of 268762986 on mac os x, I consider this not a correct value though it is unique for the help key on mac os x. The same for the `key in american qwerty keyboard layout, it should give the ascii value and not a zero. And so on... Sarah you said: In NumLock is on, the numeric keys generate arrowKey messages and if NumLock is on, the number can be read directly in a keyDown or keyUp handler On win yes but not on mac os x. The numlockkey doesn't affect the value of the numerical keys on the numerical keypad in mac os x. And there is no numLockKey function we could use to poll the numLockKey condition like there is a capsLockKey function. (and the keyboard is not broken as the numlockkey works in win vpc) Revolution, being a crossplatform RAD, should make keyboard input as uniform as possible between platforms regarding it's own application and offshoots. But I'll refrain from bugzilla-ing until further notice. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
more rawkeydown problems
Hi All, If crossplatform uniformness is not your piece of cake then please don't read this mail. But for those who really need to process keyboard input here are some more keyboard anomalies to check. All values are from a rawkeydown handler. - the key straight under the escape key (qwerty `/ ~ or §/± or something else depending on which qwerty you use) will give a 0 value on mac os x when an american qwerty keyboard layout is chosen but not with another keyboard layout. - help key on mac os x gives value 268762986 instead of 65379 (win vpc) - the numlock key on mac osx x enters a char in the field when focused and editable: numtochar(27) - the values of the numeric keyboard on mac differ from these of win !!! On mac os x the value without numLock is the same as with numLock, not on win vpc. On win vpc side there are also some anomalies (see below). ### numerical keyboard 65429 ### 7 mac os x 65463 ### 7 - numlock win vpc 65360 ### 7 + numlock win vpc 65430 ### 4 mac os x 65460 ### 4 - numlock win vpc 65361 ### 4 + numlock win vpc 65431 ### 8 mac os x 65464 ### 8 - numlock win vpc 65362 ### 8 + numlock win vpc 65432 ### 6 mac os x 65462 ### 6 - numlock win vpc 65363 ### 6 + numlock win vpc 65433 ### 2 mac os x 65458 ### 2 - numlock win vpc 65364 ### 2 + numlock win vpc 65434 ### 9 mac os x 65465 ### 9 - numlock win vpc 65365 ### 9 + numlock win vpc 65435 ### 3 mac os x 65459 ### 3 - numlock win vpc 65366 ### 3 + numlock win vpc 65436 ### 1 mac os x 65457 ### 1 - numlock win vpc 65367 ### 1 + numlock win vpc 65437 ### 5 mac os x 65461 ### 5 - numlock win vpc 65461 ### 5 + numlock win vpc !!! no change 65438 ### 0 mac os x 65456 ### 0 - numlock win 65379 ### 0 + numlock win 65439 ### . mac os x 65454 ### . - numlock win 65535 ### . + numlock win !!! value of deletekey on mac !!! 65493 ### = mac os x 61 ### = win vpc the chartonum value other keys of the numerical keyboard are the same These are tests on a apple usb keyboard. May be there will also be differences on laptop keyboards. If someone can test and confirm the above then this can be bugzilla'ed. TIA Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2 little questions
This is what I needed. Thank you very much Ken Gr W. On 04 Mar 2005, at 01:21, Ken Ray wrote: On 3/3/05 5:24 PM, Wouter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03 Mar 2005, at 22:01, Ken Ray wrote: What I meant was: commandkey is the applekey on mac, equivalent on windows is the windows key or startkey? Well, I guess it depends on keyboards. Both of my keyboards are Logitech wireless keyboards that have three keys to the left of the space bar, labelled: Ctrl Start/Alt/Option Alt/(apple symbol)/(cloverleaf symbol) Yes, I know, the two alts not withstanding, these generate the following keys (note that in Windows they are generated automatically; in Mac the raw keycodes for the modifier keys aren't generated until you type another key and you get the raw keyCode for *that* key instead): Windows -- Ctrl -- (65507) / controlKey is 'down' Start/Alt/Option -- (65388) / no modifier keys are down Alt/(apple symbol)/(cloverleaf symbol) -- (65513) / optionKey is 'down' Mac Ctrl -- controlKey is 'down' Start/Alt/Option -- optionKey is 'down' Alt/(apple symbol)/(cloverleaf symbol) -- commandKey is 'down' HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2 little questions
Hi All, Two little questions: 1. in the transcript dictionary is stated: - on unix and windows systems, the commandkey function returns the same value as the controlkey function. This can be verified in VPC. But which is the value returned by the equivalent of the commandkey on the mac in windows? (because of the special assignment of the commandkey on the mac, this cannot be retrieved in VPC) 2. noticing a difference in behavior of buttons between platforms (one more :-): - a button with the traversalon set to true (default condition) will take the focus out of a field when activated by mouse in windows, but not so on mac. Which is correct behavior and which is preferable? TIA. Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2 little questions
On 03 Mar 2005, at 22:01, Ken Ray wrote: On 3/3/05 3:44 AM, Wouter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Two little questions: 1. in the transcript dictionary is stated: - on unix and windows systems, the commandkey function returns the same value as the controlkey function. This can be verified in VPC. But which is the value returned by the equivalent of the commandkey on the mac in windows? If you're talking about the key that is marked as the commandKey on a Mac keyboard, this is actually the alt or option key in Windows, and returns that the optionKey is down. What I meant was: commandkey is the applekey on mac, equivalent on windows is the windows key or startkey? And which value has this key in a rawkeydown handler?65xxx or empty? Thanks Ken for your response. Gr W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unlimited undo's for text fields
J. Landman Gay Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:06:30 -0800 On 2/26/05 2:07 PM, Dar Scott wrote: snip Can't do it on a Mac. The OS doesn't send any messages for the shift key and command key unless they are paired with an alpha-numeric keypress. Windows OS does. Rev has no way of knowing when the user depresses the shift key alone. Weird because most games (red faction, jedi knight, unreal, quake, etc... ) on the mac succeed in this, why can't rev? Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unlimited undo's for text fields
Yeah, but Dar's bug entry is also pointing to some other illogical behavior in the way rawkeydown is working even on the Win32 platform. Though rawkeydown is triggered by any of the modifier keys on Win32, you still have to poll for their keydown condition if combined with any other key. Which indeed is not very efficient. It would be nice to have a more uniform behavior across platforms of these basic commands And a polling loop on modifierkeys in rev-talk does sound like an unnecessary overload if it can be done more efficiently by the engine itself. Gr, Wouter On 28 Feb 2005, at 15:44, Paul wrote: I think Dar is right in that a message is not sent when a modifier key is pressed on the Mac, but one can check to see if a modifier key is down. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J. Landman Gay Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:06:30 -0800 On 2/26/05 2:07 PM, Dar Scott wrote: snip Can't do it on a Mac. The OS doesn't send any messages for the shift key and command key unless they are paired with an alpha-numeric keypress. Windows OS does. Rev has no way of knowing when the user depresses the shift key alone. Weird because most games (red faction, jedi knight, unreal, quake, etc... ) on the mac succeed in this, why can't rev? Greetings, Wouter They do it by polling, i.e. they sit in a tight loop watching the keymap (an internal Mac data structure that has the status of all the keys on the keyboard). FYI, there was a decision made, a long time ago (circa 1983), that the Mac event system would not report shift, option, command or control key downs to applications. The only way to determine if those keys are down is via polling, which can be done in Revolution by using an idle handler... on idle if the shiftkey is down then ... do something end if end idle -- Frank ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unlimited undo's for text fields
Message: 21 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:21:52 -0800 (PST) From: Alejandro Tejada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unlimited undo's for text fields To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Wouter, Your unlimited undo code is impressive. Later, when your time permits, Could you comment about how this code works? In Windows, this line calls an error message: put word 1 to 7 of the long id of it into tFName Keep up your good work! :-) al Hi Al, One of the things that caused the error you mentioned is the not so uniform transplatform behaviour of commands like rawkeydown in this case. A little test showed a big difference between mac and win32 platform. The modifier keys, the shift and capslock keys are not triggering a rawkeydown message on the mac-side. But they do on the win32 platform. If the people at RR could make this behavior more uniform between platforms it would enhance crossplatformity Hopefully they will consider Dar Scott bug 1434 when doing this eventually. (will repost the code when this problem is solved) Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unlimited undo's for text fields
On 25 Feb 2005, at 05:40, MisterX wrote: Good job! I'll definitely test this later! Does it work also in Script editors? cheers Xavier snip Hi Xav, Depends on how you organize your code. If this has to work on all editable fields, refine the code and insert it into the frontscripts. But I couldn't test it on the other platforms yet. Let me know if it works. Gr W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
test
Please disregard this message. And if you can read this, thank you Heather. Gr W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
unlimited undo's for text fields
Hi All, For those who like unlimited undo's (or is it ram limited undo's?) an undo framework starter for text in fields. This script can be placed in a stackscript and will act on all (editable) fields. Drag dropping text from one field to the other is supported. It is functional and tested on OS X. But for the other platforms I don't know yet. Adapt as necessary and beware of the mail wraps! global gHistory local lSC,lData on rawkeydown x writeHistory x pass rawkeydown end rawkeydown on dragstart put the selectedchunk into lSC pass dragstart end dragstart on dragend put the dragData[text] into lData send checkdragdata to me in 20 millisecs pass dragend end dragend on checkdragdata put the selectedchunk into tSC get word -2 to -1 of lSC put word 1 to 7 of the long id of it into tFNameOrig get word -2 to -1 of tSC put word 1 to 7 of the long id of it into tFNameDest if tFNameOrig = tFNameDest and not (word 2 of tSC word 4 of tSC) then put d,lSC,tSC,hexadize(lData) cr after gHistory[tFNameDest] else if tFNameOrig tFNameDest then delete word 3 to 4 of lSC put x,lSC,hexadize(lData) cr after gHistory[tFNameOrig] put v,tSC,hexadize(lData) cr after gHistory[tFNameDest] end if put into lSC put into lData end checkdragdata ### first item indicates the action ### w = write ### v = paste ### x = cut ### b = backspace ### d = dragplaced on writeHistory x put the selectedchunk into tSC get word -2 to -1 of tSC put word 1 to 7 of the long id of it into tFName if the commandkey is down then switch x case 122 ### z reverseHistory break case 118 ### v put clipboardData[text] into x put v,tSC,hexadize(x) cr after gHistory[tFName] break case 120 ### x put the value of tSC into x if x then delete word 3 to 4 of tSC put x,tSC,hexadize(x) cr after gHistory[tFName] end if break end switch else switch x case 65421 ### enter in field case 65307 ### escape key case 65308 ### scrollwheel up and down case 65309 case 65361 ### arrowkeys case 65363 case 65362 case 65364 -- do nothing break case 65288 ### backspace if word 4 of tSC 0 then if word 2 of tSC word 4 of tSC then get the value of tSC delete word 3 to 4 of tsC else if word 2 of tSC word 4 of tSC then delete word 2 to 3 of tSC get the value of tsC end if put hexadize(it) into x put b,tSC,x cr after gHistory[tFName] ## b = backspace end if break case 65293 ### return in field delete word 3 to 4 of tSC put w,tSC,hexadize(return) cr after gHistory[tFName] break default delete word 3 to 4 of tSC put w,tSC,hexadize(numtochar(x)) cr after gHistory[tFName] break end switch end if end writeHistory on reverseHistory put word 1 to 7 of the the focusedobject into tFName if gHistory[tFName] = then beep exit reverseHistory end if get line -1 of gHistory[tFName] delete line - 1 of gHistory[tFName] switch item 1 of it case b put dehexadize(last item of it) into x if x = return then put cr into x else if x = space then put space into x else if x = tab then put tab into x else replace quote with quote quote quote in x replace cr with quotecr quote in x put quote x quote into x end if do put x before item 2 of it break case w do delete item 2 of it break case v put dehexadize(last item of it) into x put the num of chars in x into y put word 2 of item 2 of it + y - 1 into word 4 of item 2 of it do delete item 2 of it break case x put dehexadize(last item of it) into x if x = return then put cr into x else if x = space then put space into x else if x = tab then put tab into x else replace quote with quote quote quote in x replace cr with quotecr quote in x put quote x quote into x end if do put x before item 2 of it break case d put dehexadize(last item of it) into x if last char of x = cr then add 1 to word 4 of item 3 of it if the num of lines in x 1 then delete last char of x if x = return then put cr into x else if x = space then put space into x else if x = tab then put tab into x else replace quote with quote quote quote in x replace cr with quotecr quote in x put quote x quote into x end if do delete item 3 of it delete word 3 to 4 of item 2 of it do put x before item 2 of it break end switch end reverseHistory ### Big Endian BinaryDecode ### function hexadize sx get binarydecode(H*, sx, x1) return x1 end hexadize ### Big Endian Binary Encode ### function deHexadize sx replace space with in sx try get binaryEncode(H*, sx, x1) catch errornum
2.5 RC 1
Hi, The changes to and speeding up of the docs in the the 2.5RC1 -- excellent -- !!! Overall security of password protected stacks -- much improved -- Congrats. WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze?
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze? From: Ken Ray Subject: Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze? Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:39:33 -0700 On 8/27/04 7:26 PM, Wouter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True the player hangs when inside the Rev folder. If one drags a stack on the app icon after the clock cursor has changed to pointer it will open in the player though the home stack won't hide. But the player works like a charm when outside the rev folder and started with a stack. This just shouldn't be... how many people are going to see another app in the Rev folder and 2x-click it to see what it does? Answer: Lots. And they shouldn't be greeted with a hanging application. It should at least say something like Move this out of the Rev folder before launching, although for the life of me I can't understand why it doesn't work in the Rev folder but does outside of it. Correct. But Rev is not really *hanging*. You still can drag stacks on the player icon and they will be loaded. Only minor change in script will resolve this in the final candidate I am sure. That's why they should still accept bugzilla reports or read the list thoroughly. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
