Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
how great this ajax is! Previously i almost ranted on some stuff where
ajax was not "secure" and overid some stuff i set in Firefox...

I decided to keep my day positive... but it comes back!!!

http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/10/14/126233.shtml?tid=172&tid=95&tid=220

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Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
> even a "toy" language like blitzmax is exciting because it offers 
> arcade-quality possibilties in the interface department (in slick opengl 

> 3d etc) & is cross-platform, early days yet but possible to do 
> server/cgi with & talk to sqlite .. but it's ultimately nostalgic & the 
> forum participants are mainly a younger generation.

Apparently Rev seems deaf to our pleading for an opengl extension or 
"real" graphics... Rev works great to animate up to 10 poligons but
that's it (on a big PC too...)... im sure they're working on it though...

> rev can't do that and it doesn't need to but i find the new version of 
> rev quite stable & have been happily using it the last few days for a 
> project, although i still get weird coloured syntax highlighting issues, 

> more so that ye ol metacard :)

Apparently Rev is hard of hearing on that since last year...
There's a few bugzillas on it too - I even proposed them a real text 
coloring engine that works great since 5 years or so when i rewrote the
MC script editor... but as usual, no one was much interested...

Since then someone managed to make another editor with similar features
which others did seem interested in. 

It's a really weird market, these revolutionaries! ;)

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Re: Revolution back to HyperCard

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
What you describe there is the find stack.

The find command simply takes you directly to the card that contains the 
information and hilites it with a rectangle...

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/10/2005 09:39:10:

> How does the find function works? Does it only list the cards where the 
word
> searched is found?
> Thank you very much in advance for your cooperation.
> 
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Re: Rev vs. AJAX... Ajax vs TAOO

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Alex

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/10/2005 12:56:50:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >Did Linus write the help first or the code for linux before people 
started 
> >
> >collaborating with him? Did people ask him "what is it for?"
> >
> > 
> >
> No, first thing he had was an "elevator pitch". In his case, he didn't 
> need to create it specifically as an elevator pitch - but what he had 
> was a simple, 30-50 second description of what he was doing that was 
> understandable to almost any potential collaborator.
>
> "I'm doing an open-source, freely licensed version of Unix - it will be 
> library and API compatible so all your code, shell scripts and general 
> usage will work on it."
> 
> TAOO doesn't, as far as I know, have that. 

That's the first line on my website!!! 

http://monsieurx.com/TAOO also has that as front story...

and there's the documentation...

> I've not managed to get a 
> good "feel" for what TAOO does, or what it would be like to use, or how 
> it would change the everyday tasks to be done in developing an app using 

> TAOO. And I can't go download something and try it out  which you 
> could do with Linux a long time before it was really "done".

strange i did put out more than one example made with TAOO's parts.
Tried to describe it in few words... 

When i made a documentation stack - nobody found it useful. I said at one 
point that it was an
example - and people still didn't see it... I can't tell you how lost i am 
at that point!

Nor did i ever hear you ask "how it should feel"...

> I suspect that's largely because of the second reason - Linux was an 
> incremental project, that most people became familiar with somewhat 
> early on. TAOO has been going for years, so it's already a big, 
> multi-faceted, multi-tentacled "thing" - and so is much harder to 
> describe. It's difficult (if not impossible) for you to extract a 
> "bite-sized chunk" of it to complete (i.e. get out of beta, release it, 
> maybe even partly document it and thereby attract co-developers and 
> users), because doing so would lose one of its primary current benefits 
> to you, namely its completeness.

And the few examples available in Monsieurx's downloads are "useful" yet 
independent tools
of the whole (they get better with the rest but they work without the 
other tentacles! 

Yet hardly anyone comments or does send feedback... So i dont update to 
get more rants and
less comments - granted but still... 

How should it feel? Faster, more featured - but absolutely non-different! 
GUI-regardless ;)

Thanks for your comments...

Something more about ajax that's interesting business-wise...
http://computerbusinessreview.com/article_news.asp?guid=EB771D64-F33F-4504-A6DB-7417D22CB379

 
>  I wish I could tell you how to resolve that problem, but I'm afraid I 
> can't 

You have so far! Keep trying... What i really dont get is why some lame
projects get praise while hard-work projects get none...

cheers
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Re: cWinCursor broke in 2.6.1?

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
if you go to the msg and type
cWinCursor

rev puts 

put the cWinCursor of the selectedObject
which results in 200308

but if you put 

put there is an image id 200308
= false!!!


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/10/2005 10:28:01:

> Xavier,
>   The bugzilla description you filed says :
>  >>>The cursor's hotpoint if far left off the cursor which makes the 
drag
> operation really awkward.
>  but I think we are talking about different things.
>  In getting an error on this line of code: set cursor to the cWinCursor 
of
> me
>  the script error reads: "cursor: can't find image"
>  as a simple test just create a new stack, open the object library, and
> place a "win style stack resizer" button. As soon as you mousenter it 
tries
> to find that cursor number but cant, and thus errors out.
>  - TJ
>  On 10/13/05, MisterX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi TJ
> >
> > I filed a bugzilla on it yesterday
> >
> > http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3182
> >
> > I don't remember the bugzilla for color cursors but it should have a
> > million
> > votes on it by now ;)
> >
> > cheers
> > Xavier
> > http://monsieurx.com
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TJ 
Frame
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:31 PM
> > > To: How to use Revolution
> > > Subject: cWinCursor broke in 2.6.1?
> > >
> > > Is it just me or is the "Win Style Stack Resizer" button
> > > broken now in 2.6.1?
> > > Seems the custom number for that cursor is now wrong And
> > > while we are on the subject, does anyone have a list of other
> > > system cursor numbers for Windows? I bet there are more but I
> > > cant seem to locate a lost of them.
> > > It would be nice if Rev either had a larger number of built
> > > in-cursors or it came with a "cursor" stack of lots of custom
> > > cursor images in the proper format that we can include if we want.
> > > - TJ
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Re: cWinCursor broke in 2.6.1?

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
OUCH!

i tested it and it's worse than that! I can't even edit the script where 
the error is
I cant close the script window... Rev is not responding to ignore error...

Time to force quit rev!

Time to force quit Rev now...

A bit more testing: if you dont close the object library, you can't edit 
the script of the object.
If you close it, edit the script of the the windows resizer button, the 
scritp editor seems broken - can't 
resize it!

And that's not all... revonline doesn't work - proxy is set correctly - 
but since it's revonline is password 
protected i can't even report that either!!! 

OUCH

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/10/2005 10:28:01:

> Xavier,
>   The bugzilla description you filed says :
>  >>>The cursor's hotpoint if far left off the cursor which makes the 
drag
> operation really awkward.
>  but I think we are talking about different things.
>  In getting an error on this line of code: set cursor to the cWinCursor 
of
> me
>  the script error reads: "cursor: can't find image"
>  as a simple test just create a new stack, open the object library, and
> place a "win style stack resizer" button. As soon as you mousenter it 
tries
> to find that cursor number but cant, and thus errors out.
>  - TJ
>  On 10/13/05, MisterX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi TJ
> >
> > I filed a bugzilla on it yesterday
> >
> > http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3182
> >
> > I don't remember the bugzilla for color cursors but it should have a
> > million
> > votes on it by now ;)
> >
> > cheers
> > Xavier
> > http://monsieurx.com
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TJ 
Frame
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:31 PM
> > > To: How to use Revolution
> > > Subject: cWinCursor broke in 2.6.1?
> > >
> > > Is it just me or is the "Win Style Stack Resizer" button
> > > broken now in 2.6.1?
> > > Seems the custom number for that cursor is now wrong And
> > > while we are on the subject, does anyone have a list of other
> > > system cursor numbers for Windows? I bet there are more but I
> > > cant seem to locate a lost of them.
> > > It would be nice if Rev either had a larger number of built
> > > in-cursors or it came with a "cursor" stack of lots of custom
> > > cursor images in the proper format that we can include if we want.
> > > - TJ
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Re: Rev vs. AJAX... Ajax vs TAOO

2005-10-14 Thread xbury . cs
The only difference i see between Ajax and TAOO is that Ajax is loaded 
from the web whereas TAOO is running on the disk. Not that TAOO can't be
downloaded, updated online (which is not done yet)... 

So what reproachs there are ni Ajax, Rev makes up for it. I pull that off
the link and info i saw in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX.

What is interesting is how Ajax is ported across different languages like
TAOO! i just wished i knew how to get people intersted in collaborating in
this open source manner and project because so far that seems nearly 
impossible in this rev market... 

Did Linus write the help first or the code for linux before people started 

collaborating with him? Did people ask him "what is it for?"

Maybe this is a taste of what's to come...

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/12/238253&tid=185&tid=218

But like ajax, if no one helps, rev is not going anywhere fast imoho in 
this
realm of opensource collaboration or web apps - we all do our thing in our
corner and each does his best (which has been worthy of praise) but still
long term, i dont see it happening in rev...

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Re: Rev vs. AJAX...Or Web-Aware Apps vs. Web Apps

2005-10-13 Thread xbury . cs
Chipp, 

I agree but it's still a good idea to be able to play with apps the way 
CMS or ajax or web based plugins do!

If this kind of power is built in your stacks, in the long run, you're the 
clear winner - assuming 
you get the same amount of features + the flex of Rev... At least that's 
how i experience it across my work
at home and my scripting's result at work... Both are interchangeble, work 
on any data types and the
GUIs are just there wherever i go... 

And i proudly cover any of the points Dan mentioned!

cheers
Xavier 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 14/10/2005 08:24:09:

> Dan Shafer wrote:
> 
> > Now, lest you conclude that I'm ready to chuck Rev in favor of Laszlo 
> > or AJAX, let me assure you that isn't in the cards, at least not yet. 
> > Because standalone apps still have some big advantages and of course 
> > Rev adds to those with its rapid development capability for cross- 
> > platform software. Standalone apps are still:
> > 
> > * generally faster than Web apps
> > * not dependent upon a reasonably fast Internet connection
> > * not dependent on a server "out there somewhere" being up and running 

> > and not overloaded
> > * better looking with better user experiences (at least potentially)
> > * easier to protect against unauthorized use
> > * able to read and write data to and from the user's local drive 
(which 
> > neither Laszlo nor AJAX can do, being confined in a security  sandbox)
> 
> Dan and I have been going around on this for awhile now privately. 
> Frankly, I'm not a real big AJAX fan. In fact, I think it's not much 
> more than the current flavor of the month.
> 
> A couple more bullet points to add to your list:
> 
> 1) How many companies would seriously consider using AJAX (or Rev for 
> that matter) for a large-scale revenue producing project? Not startups, 
> mind you, but companies who really need apps that perform...like Adobe.
> 
> 2) And this one really gets me. It's bad enough to have to modify your 
> code every operating system update, but with AJAX and LASLO, you now 
> have to provide maintenance on every browser version update (Firefox, 
> IE, Safari, Konqueror, Opera, PDA browsers(?)) as well as every Flash 
> plugin update. Not to mention you're at the total mercy of the creators 
> of those products as well as all the standards committees who are 
> 'pushing for nextgen' type stuff. So, if Macromedia thinks Flash is too 
> difficult to program and change their scripting paradigm for Flash 
> (they've done it 3 times before!)-- your hosed. Or, MS decides to no 
> longer play nice with CSS standards groups because they don't want to 
> lose any more market share (heck they do this already with the .doc 
> format) and purposefully make their browser incompatible-- again you're 
> hosed.
> 
> 3) Ever try debugging AJAX apps? Whew!!! From what I know, there are 
> very few decent debuggers for Javascript and the XML doc object common 
> in browsers these days.
> 
> Just a few of the many reasons I don't really see the 'browser based 
> apps' ever really competing.
> 
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Re: Browser Fields

2005-10-13 Thread xbury . cs
Hi guys,

im working on such a hierarchical beast... but with not just files 
involved (i have active directory domains, 
subnets, servers, drives, shares, files in use, etc...

i'll try to simplify... After i fix my PC's overheating issues...

As for incremental searches, it's just a look searching the next word and 
adding the findings to the
results list. Isn't it? Let me know if you can't see how it's done...

Please explain in what way it is incremental? search words, searching 
targets?...

cheers
Xavier

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> 
> On Oct 13, 2005, at 12:40 AM, Jesse Sng wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone attempted to implement the kind of browser set of fields 
> > that you see in iTunes and in the OS X Finder? I need to design 
> > something like that for a particular application that will allow 
> > the user to browser a hierarchical set of data that is partitioned 
> > into categories and subcategories.
> >
> > Currently, that's set up as a series of hierarchical folders and 
> > subfolders on the file server and I want to provide an easy way for 
> > them to browse and then use the data files.
> 
> I'm interested too. And along with that, I'd be interested if anybody 
> had code they wanted to share for incremental searches. I can't quite 
> figure out how that's done (efficiently).
> 
> Charles Hartman
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Re: Field Problems

2005-10-13 Thread xbury . cs
this could be a selectionchanged handler intercepting it... 

try to run this handler with "lock messages" before you run it...

if it still kills the (it's NOT a thread) execution, it's probably an 
error in myline... If it runs, there's a frontscript (maybe) event handler
catching your change of selection (but im doudtfull)...

BTW, to hilite a line in a "listbehavior" field, i've found it more
reliable to use "set the hilitedline of fld x to myline" than the
good old "select line..."

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/10/2005 15:07:49:

> Hi All,
> 
> I am experiencing a problem using a Field List. I have a handler that 
> updates the field, and in it I have the following lines:
> 
> enable me
> disable me
> select line myLine of me
> 
> All of which, when stepped over with the debugger cause the Handler 
> to quit, actually the whole message thread in killed.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea of what could be causing this problem?
> 
> Thanks a lot
> Dave
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Re: Manipulate Stacks with Duplicate Names?

2005-10-12 Thread xbury . cs
not mistakenly because Tuv once told me you just CANT rely on stack ids. 
Actually they change across
sessions (not very smart IMOHO) so i too just avoid them...

The stack path is probably the best reference after the stack's name...

cheers
Xavier

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> >> Is there any way to distinguish between newly created
> >> (unsaved) stacks that have the same name?
> 
> > How about using the stack's ID?
> 
> I seem to recall reading on the list long ago that it was somehow 
possible
> for multiple opened stacks to have duplicate IDs, and (because of this)
> referencing stacks by ID wasn't reliable.  Is this actually the case or 
have
> I spent years mistakenly avoiding referencing stacks by ID?
> 
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> 
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RE: [OT] Microsoft Office's New UI Blazes Some New Trails for Us

2005-10-12 Thread xbury . cs
Given their HEAVY use of tags in word html or rtf exports, sounds scary 
already!


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> > IMO, the fact that MSWord saves files in their own proprietary markup 
> > language *should* discourage anyone from ever using it. It'd sure be 
> > cool if more adopted Massachusetts Open Doc policy. 
> > http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122685,00.asp
> 
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> 
> I'm on the beta team for Office 2006 (Office 12).
> It would seem, at this point, that they are going
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Re: QT version on Windows

2005-10-11 Thread xbury . cs
Here's a VBS script that will printout the version

Option Explicit
Dim oFSO
Dim sPath, sFileVer, sFileName

sPath = "d:\app\quicktime\quicktimeplayer.exe"
Set oFSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")

sFileVer = oFSO.GetFileVersion(sPath)
sFileName = oFSO.GetFileName(sPath)

Wscript.Echo sFileName & " " & sFileVer
Set oFSO = Nothing

which outputs:

quicktimeplayer.exe 6.3.0.17 


if you dont know how to run a vbs script, here's how:
  put fld "script" into dscript -- this contains your script...
   put dscript into url "file:c:/temp/test.vbs"
  get shell("cscript /nologo" && "c:/temp/test.vbs")
  put it
 
enjoy
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Re: weird msg-box phenom?

2005-10-11 Thread xbury . cs
Charles,

if i remember well, i saw it once that the rev script debugger uses the 
space as a trigger to move your
debugging point forward (depending on the focus of the button selected in 
the debugging window).

As for the variable watcher, there's a preference to hide when not in the 
script editor... but i may be
wrong...

cheers
Xavier



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> While I'm debugging a script (stopped at a breakpoint), when I try to 
> use the message box to check something, it lets me type up to & 
> including one blank space; then the insertion point disappears and 
> the box takes no characters. When I click inside it again it accepts 
> characters up through one more blank space; and so on. Do others get 
> this?
> 
> Now that I mention it: I don't remember it being true before, but it 
> is now, that the Variable Watcher window disappears whenever there's 
> no script running. Am I just forgetting? It's a pain -- the debug/ 
> edit cycle has to include starting up that window again . . .
> 
> (OS 10.4.2; Dreamcard 2.6.1 but it happened on 2.6 before I upgraded)
> 
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Re: QT version on Windows

2005-10-11 Thread xbury . cs
I think i found a few more hints...

First, the registry version and the application's version do no match. The 
registry say 630800
while the application's version says 6.3.17. 

After some digging, i found that most Quicktime files also say 6.3.17...

But while searching, i found what could be what Sims is looking for...

C:\WINNT\system32\QuickTime\Uninstall.log

which contains:

[C:\home\Administrator\WINDOWS - Header]
Signature=VISE
Version=0001
UninstallKeyName=QuickTime
Product Name=QuickTime 6
[C:\home\Administrator\WINDOWS - WinNT]
AdminPrivileges=1
RemoveInUseFiles=1
[C:\home\Administrator\WINDOWS - Directories2]
count=11
0=D:\app
1=D:\app\QuickTime

As you can see, the version is "again" different Grrr
But on the other hand, you get all the paths for files and registry 
installed...

cheers
Xavier


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 12:45:23:

> 
> On 11 Oct 2005, at 09:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > put queryregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\apple Computer,
> > Inc.\quicktime\version","text") into data
> >
> > get binarydecode("h*", data, x)
> > you get x = "00080360"
> >
> > if you reverse that string you get what i saw correctly in the 
> > registry..
> 
> This gives me what I see in the registry. (in this case version 7.0.2)
> 
> 
> put queryregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\apple Computer, Inc. 
> \quicktime\version","text") into data
> local t1,t2,t3,t4
> get binaryDecode("H2H2H2H2",data,t1,t2,t3,t4)
> put t4&t3&t2&t1
> 
> --> 07028000
> 
> I'm not sure if this is any help to sims. I assume digits 1-2 are the 
> main version number, digit 3 is the subversion, and digit 4 is the 
> sub-sub version. But this probably needs some more confirmation.
> 
> I also see there's a registry entry that give the location of QuickTime.
> 
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\apple Computer, Inc.\quicktime\InstallDir
> 
> Any use?
> 
> > Nothing else seems to not work the way it's supposed to but im no 
> > expert
> > in the binarydecode function...
> 
> I know what you mean. I think the docs may need some revision. Every 
> time I read about binaryDecode and binaryEncode my head hurts. 
> Generally, it's trial and error.
> 
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Re: QT version on Windows

2005-10-11 Thread xbury . cs
Besides my usual takes at quicktime, i noticed that there is yet another 
one i could throw...

I saw there's a nice QTInfo application in the folder however you have to 
open that application to get
any info. 

Otherwise, i got a WMI script to find this info but it's involved and may 
not run on PCs without WMI...

Actually, im still trying to make it run... 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 13:03:35:

> At 11:45 AM +0100 10/11/05, Dave Cragg wrote:
> >>Nothing else seems to not work the way it's supposed to but im no 
expert
> >>in the binarydecode function...
> >
> >I know what you mean. I think the docs may need some revision. Every 
> >time I read about binaryDecode and binaryEncode my head hurts. 
> >Generally, it's trial and error.
> 
> Many thanks for this Dave & Mr. X - gives me something to play with 
> for a while.
> 
> It would be very, very nice if one could check the QTVersion 
withoutneeding to
> load QuickTime however!  If you load it and cannot/do not use it then 
you
> cannot set cantuseqt to true without quitting.
> 
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Re: QT version on Windows

2005-10-11 Thread xbury . cs
Sims, 

im using version 6.3 so no i dont have that folder...

put queryregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\apple Computer, 
Inc.\quicktime\version","text") into data
 
get binarydecode("h*", data, x)
you get x = "00080360"

if you reverse that string you get what i saw correctly in the registry...
Nothing else seems to not work the way it's supposed to but im no expert 
in the binarydecode function...

i think i may have something else to chase though... ;)

cheers
Xavier


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> >My quicktime app is never installed in C:\program files!!!
> 
> Xavier,
> 
> Do you have a folder named "QuickTime" in your "Program Files"?
> 
> If you go to "C:/Program Files/QuickTime/"  do you have a folder 
> named "QTSystem"?
> 
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Re: QT version on Windows

2005-10-11 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Sims,

I tried but

After battling again with the clipboard crap not pasting right, in 2.6.1

put queryregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apple Computer, 
Inc.\QuickTime\Version","text")

looking at the data (which prevents compilation when inserted between 
quotes)...

The only way i could get a resemblence to what i see in the registry was 
using 

binaryDecode ("H*", data, x)

but after trying  HH*, i got a revcrash!!!


put queryregistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apple Computer, 
Inc.\QuickTime\Version") into data

put "xaAbBhHcCsSiInNfd" into testlist

repeat for each char c in testlist
get binarydecode(c &"*" , data, x) 
put c & tab & x & cr after fld 1
end repeat

when i tried c&c& "*" i got the crash...

i'll try again later but i have to work...

sorry
Xavier

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> At 8:18 AM +0200 10/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >
> >I have version 6.3 and the regedit key says 6308000
> 
> Xavier,
> 
> Would you please post the script that produces this for me to try?
> binaryDecode() is getting me nowhere.
> 
> TIA
> 
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Re: QT version on Windows

2005-10-11 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Sims,

Besides my previous tip, here's another... 

My quicktime app is never installed in C:\program files!!!

To find where, look first at...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\quicktime\shell\open\command

And there's another key that's interesting for you - but it's not reliable 
(no xvid or divx which i have installed)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\QuickTime.aif  -- the AIF is the 
interesting bit which are the file types QT handles...


And there's a key in the registry that gives you also the installed 
codecs...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows 
NT\CurrentVersion\drivers.desc
or
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Drivers32
but with this last one, unfortunately, you can't list the subkeys in a 
registry branch...

And i couldn't find any utility that could list the existing codecs. GSpot 
(free) tells you if you have the codec or not or what codec you need to 
play a file
but it's not exactly script friendly... I'll see if i find a vbs trick 
later...

cheers
Xavier


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/10/2005 09:43:29:

> At 1:07 AM -0500 10/11/05, Ken Ray wrote:
> >On 10/10/05 9:13 AM, "sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>  Anyone know how to check for the QuickTime version on a Windows 
machine
> >>  without using QTVersion?
> >
> >Well, you can find it in the WIndows registry at:
> >
> >   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apple Computer, Inc.\QuickTime\Version
> >
> >But it is in binary; I've tried many forms of binaryDecode() and can't 
seem
> >to be able to extract it. Anyone else want to give it a go?
> 
> Thanks for the attempt Ken.
> 
> My videos are either QT 7 H.264 or wmv files, so I need to assign one 
> or the other
> (the QT 7 H.264 are outstanding and much smaller in size)
> 
> So, for now I've resorted to the following:
> 
> set the defaultFolder to "C:/Program Files/QuickTime/QTSystem"
> put the files into tData
> if "H264" is in tData then doStuff
> 
> If   H264 is not there I give them the wmv version.
> 
> It does seem a bit strange to have to load QT (QTVersions) in order 
> to see what
> version it is! Once you do that you are stuck!
> 
> Any comments on my hack of a work around are most appreciated.
> 
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Re: QT version on Windows

2005-10-10 Thread xbury . cs
Actually, it looks like it is written in hex as the version...

I have version 6.3 and the regedit key says 6308000

I guess there is no decoding, just an encoding in the wrong mode!...

cheers
Xavier 

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> On 10/10/05 9:13 AM, "sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Anyone know how to check for the QuickTime version on a Windows 
machine
> > without using QTVersion?
> 
> Well, you can find it in the WIndows registry at:
> 
>   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apple Computer, Inc.\QuickTime\Version
> 
> But it is in binary; I've tried many forms of binaryDecode() and can't 
seem
> to be able to extract it. Anyone else want to give it a go?
> 
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Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Re: HELP!! - Geometry Gone Berserk, How to fix?

2005-10-07 Thread xbury . cs
David, Jeane,

only in theory... In practice, i've seen this not work, work wrong, 
rescrew everything...
i've never seen this work correctly... I know because i tried for MONTHS 
not to go crazy
with the thing!!!

The best way to make this work:
make a handler to save all your control's positions

try rev*geocraptry

if it doesn't work, you can "restore the geometry" with your settings.

Rev's cachegeostuff doesn't work 100% correctly...

cheers
Xavier

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> At 12:11 PM +0100 10/6/2005, David Burgun wrote:
> >HELP! I have a Stack and the geometry has gone berserk. I have a 
> >"breakpoint" inserted in a preOpenStack handler that allows me to 
> >quit the startup path. If I let it continue the Stack displays and 
> >the geometry has scaled/moved objects as if the Stack window were 
> >MUCH bigger. If I Abort in the debugger, the stack displays ok.
> >
> >However, if I type:
> >
> >revUpdateGeometry (which would have been called on the preOpenStackk 
> >path anyway)
> >
> >The geometry goes beswick!
> >
> >How it fix? Is there anyway of resetting the geometry of the Stack?
> 
> 
> With the stack in the correct state (e.g. if you abort), try typing
> 
>revCacheGeometry
> 
> in the message box. In theory this should rebuild the Geometry 
> Manager settings, and base them off the current position and size.
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Re: Display an Image from Clipboard on a Card

2005-10-04 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Todd,

All you need to do is create an image control, and put the 
clipboarddata["image"] into it

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> How do I display an image from clipboard on a card?
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: ReplaceText and Backslash

2005-10-04 Thread xbury . cs
try to "escape" the backslash first.

put replacetext( fld 1, backslash&backslash & quote , quote ) into fld 1

which is not necessary with

replace backslash & quote with quote in fld 1

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> I have a string that comes from Applescript and it has a bunch of /" in 
it.
> 
> It looks like this
> 
> Script id=\"7\" name=\"New Script 2\" includeInMenu=\"True\"
> 
> I would like to replace the Backslash Quote string with just Quote. But 
this
> does not work.
> 
> put  replaceText (theString, backslash & quote, quote)
> 
> 
> Any ideas  why?
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Re: TCP/IP error addendum

2005-10-03 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Ton

Seems like maybe you forgot to include the revdatabase library...

cheers
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> This morning I've posted an error with RR:
> When connecting to a mySQL database I get the error "Can't create TCP/ 
> IP socket (43)"
> 
> The strange thing is that there is no problem when using the IDE or a 
> standalone for Windows, only when creating a standalone for Mac OS9.
> 
> Anyone any suggestions before I put all kind of answer messages in 
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Re: Structures in RunRev

2005-10-03 Thread xbury . cs
Hi David,

Hi David,

You dont need structures. You can use the arrays for that without any 
problem

struct contact[id] {
  name;
  age;
  height;
  weigth
}

is the same as

array[id,"name"]
array[id,"height']

and so on...

cheers
Xavier

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> Hi,
> 
> In my opinion, one thing that is missing from TranScript/RunRev is 
> the ability to define structures. It would be great to be able to 
> define a structure as so:
> 
> structure("FileInfoStruct(mFileName,mFileWidth,mFileHeight)")
> 
> then access it like:
> 
> global structure("FileInfoStruc(myFileInfo(empty,0,0))")
> 
> or
> 
> local structure("FileInfoStruc(myFileInfo(empty,0,0))")
> 
> -
> 
> put "xxx" into the mFileName of myFileInfo
> put 1024 into the mFileWidth of myFileInfo
> put 768 into the mFileHeight of myFileInfo
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> Thanks a lot
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Re: High-Lighting an Image Object

2005-10-03 Thread xbury . cs
Hi David

you can change the border of he image...

on mouseenter
  set the showborder of me to true
--set the bordercolor to yellow
  repeat with x = 0 to 3
   wait 10 milliseconds
 set the borderwidth of me to x
  end repeat
  repeat with x = 3 down to 0
   wait 10 milliseconds
set the borderwidth of me to x
  end repeat
  set the border of me to false
end mouseenter

BUT, there's no bordercolor property for images... so you can't set it to 
a color...
Another possibility is to draw a button behind the image and have that 
change borders

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> I have an Image Object that I am using as the target of a Drag and 
> Drop operation. I do the same on a text field and when the cursor is 
> over the field it lights up (by setting the border color in the 
> dragEnter and dragLeave handlers. I am doing the same with the image 
> object but it has no effect.
> 
> How can I highlight an Image Object so the user knows that it is 
> capable of accepting the drop?
> 
> Thanks a lot
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Re: How to check internet connection

2005-10-03 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Pradeep,

There's many different ways to do this, but the simplest that comes to 
mind would be

put url "http://monsieurx.com"; into whatever -- any other world famous web 
site 

that shoult give you either peep or a great websites' html data but who 
cares, we just want
a proof that internet exists!

Ping or ipconfig can help but they dont prove anything...

hope that helps...
Cheers
Xavier

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> I want to check from revolution desktop program to know whether the user
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> 
> Could anyone please provide me the code or some guide to do this.
> 
> Thanks
> Regards
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Re: Detecting height of dock and taskbar

2005-09-29 Thread xbury . cs
Sarah,

Nuance! On windows, it "may" give you the height of the task bar... 

If you change the taskbar, rev doesn't notice... Rev doesn't know if it is 
up or down either...

Note this is the same with anything you change in windows (selection or 
window colors) when 
you use rev, you have to quit rev and restart it for it to notice... ;(



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> > Is there a way to detect the height of the dock in OSX and of the
> > taskbar in windows.
> >
> > I try to create a complete set of routines to: create open and save
> > documents (windows and mac).
> >
> > While opening a document I want it to be completly on the screen (also
> > the bottomRight so it's
> > possible to resize the doc) and have an offset for the topLeft from
> > other open docs.
> > For this I need to know how much room to leave at the bottom for the
> > dock or the taskbar.
> > I guess I need a shell command to do this, but unfortunatly I have no
> > clue
> >
> 
> Check out the windowBoundingRect. It gives you the usable rectangle
> allowing for the dock or taskbar. However with Macs, it does not allow
> for the menu bar, so you may need increase the 2nd item to stop your
> windows disappearing under the menu bar.
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Re: # PROBABLY SPAM #::Problems with Standalone App under Windows XP

2005-09-29 Thread xbury . cs
Hi David

Try this...
on preopenstack
  if the plaform is windows then
set the decorations of ths stack to default

But normally, you get a default window when you compile... Are you 
changing window modes? Palette?

cheers
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> I have a Standalone App that works just fine under MacOS X, however 
> under Windows XP, the window resize box does not appear! Is there 
> something I have to tweak to make this work on Mac and Windows?
> 
> As you may have guessed I don't know Windoews that well!
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Re: Locating an Application to Launch

2005-09-28 Thread xbury . cs
Hi David

> Hi,
> 
> How can I find out if an Application is available on the system, 
> especially if there is more than one version of the application 
> installed? I need something that will search all volumes on a system 
> and list all the occurances of the application?

The only reliable way i see to do this automatically is to scan the disks 
for 
the executable... 

While on windows, the registry can help, it still will not tell you if you 
have
two instances of an application installed or not... Rev doesn't even have 
a key!
So searching seems the best solution.

Assuming the user doesn't change the folders' each day, one scan should be 
enough
an maybe need some updates every x month if a change happens...

> For instance if I am looking for (say) Photoshop and there are three 
> versions on two volumes, I would like to present this to the user and 
> allow them to select the one they wish to launch. If there is only 
> one version, then just launch it.

Versions can be seen in some registry keys. On the Mac, i think you can
ask the finder for the file's information and find the version there. Now, 
on
windows, this only works if the file is installed and has a version 
registry key
but depeding on the manufacturer, this key can be anywhere... 
HKLM/software/abobo/arcobat/6.0
or HKLM\software\vereetas\nethackups\ which contains a key named 
version...

The easiest thing would be to ask the user what application he wants to 
run... This will
save you and the user lots of waiting or scripting... Let the user find 
where he installed
the application or what version he wants maybe deemed more flexible than 
the automatic
script that gets the wrong version - 

Example: runrev doesn't have any registry information in the registry so 
it doesn't know what 
version is running or where is the currently installed application to help 
the installer/updater...


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Re: A couple of 'creating games' Qs

2005-09-23 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Eva,

welcome back!

You need to check out 2 stacks that will definitely answer all your 
questions (the answer is yes)
The first stack is BVG's ChatRev (i dont have the url but it should be in 
Revonline i think under user BvG)
It handles multiple connections across the in total beauty!

http://home.wanadoo.nl/mark.sch/software/chatrev.html

The second one with the scrolling pane would be the latest stack by Hugh 
of FlexibleLearning.com
It is called Panorama or Moving wallpaper... Very nice demo!
you can find those at www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk.htm
cheers

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> Hi everybody,
> 
> I am new here and am not a Revolution user yet. But I am using MetaCard 
> and used to be on the MC list long time ago. Don't think anyone remember 

> me though. :o)
> 
> Before eventually getting involved with Revolution I need a little 
> clarification. It has to do with game development.
> 
> 1. Can Revolution handle a multi player environment?
> Up to 20 players would be enough for my needs. Keeping connection 
> between cards and stacks. Sending information between 
> clients/server/clients. I have red some tuts on handeling databases 
> which gives a hint it ought to work.
> 
> 2. Can one have a scrolling screen?
> The card is larger than the visible play area. Character stays in the 
> middle while the rest is scrolling.
> 
> 
> I want to send a thank you to Malte Brill for an excellent tutorial and 
> work on the Arcade engine.
> It made me curious if Revolution may be of use to us again.
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Re: Clipboard madness

2005-09-22 Thread xbury . cs
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >
> >> Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste
> >> information from a field to ultraedit... I tried all keyboard combos,
> >> and even the menu - just i wouldn't copy anything...[snip]copy!
> >
> >
> > I've never been able to copy from a stack field to another field via 
> > ctrl-c
> > ctrl-v.
> >
> > I jst always assumed you had to script it?
> >

> You may have decided that because of a bug whereby the IDE would not 
> cut/paste unless (or until) there was a script editor window open. Sorry 

> don't know the bug number and a (very) quick search didn't find it. But 
> it is fixed in 2.6 !! so give it a try now.

No, this is definitely not fixed! Not in 2.6, not in 2.62...

The trick is that if the menubar which is currently active doesn't have a 
copy 
command, it wont work - so yes you have to script that but even in the 
script 
editor which is the active window and which has this copy command, 80% of 
the
time, i have to "activate the menubar" or it wont work even though i am 
working
in that field! Same for comment scripts, etc...

We know, you should waste half an hour reseting your preferences - but 
that's 
useless, the problem comes back again in less than a week...

The real trick for missing copy/paste commands is to click once in the 
menu 
of the script editor or the revmenubar and THEN the menu shortcut will 
work 
(is that the fix in 2.6 you're refering to?)! 

Yesterday that wouldn't even work - not even in MC! But it might possibly
be my PC maybe... 

As far as the paste screwing up... Well, it's another story. That's the 
problem
at hand... 

Hope that helps for your copy shortcut... This doesn't resolve the problem 
that
when you paste something in rev/MC yuo dont know if the pasted text is the 
same
one you copied unless you verify it...

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Clipboard madness

2005-09-22 Thread xbury . cs
Yesterday i was BATTLING against a stack who wouldn't copy paste 
information from a field to ultraedit... I tried all keyboard combos,
and even the menu - just i wouldn't copy anything... maybe it's due to the 
environment i run this into: it runs on a windows 2003 server
which has 4 metaframes opened, 4-8 RDP windows (terminal services), Notes 
(biggest crap mail client you could find in the galaxy),
and FireFox (who doesn't know how to copy paste any better...). I managed 
to make this work via a button: select text of fld x, copy!

So why doesn't the menu or keycombos work?

Today, when i copy the line from any program

emcacl \\server\fs$\userprog\xxx /t /c /y /q /g "SYSTEM":F 
"OAAD\xxx":C

and paste it into a field (or scripteditor) and what i get is:

emcacl $\\/t /c /y /q /g "SYSTEM":F "OAAD\":C

Tested in Rev 2.6, Metacard 2.62...

3rd bugzilla entry today... Rev should sponsor those who do their 
beta-testing - but i get the feeling this is an persistent problem ;)

The big question: Is this in windows only? 

I'd like to see if any of you Mac users also have this problem before i 
enlarge further the zilla list ;)

If this was a compiler problem, how many sins would it imply? ;D

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RE: problem waiting - spellchecker

2005-09-02 Thread xbury . cs
DUH!

Appologies to Dave Cragg who suggested that... Sorry Dar, no cigar ;)

i should learn to "read" sometimes ;)

Thanks again Dave

cheers
Xavier

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> Woah cool the DarFunction!
> 
> Some Interactivity seems to be showing handy thanks to the DarFunction 
in
> this waiting-room case though!
> 
> More than i saw before... the seconds ticked but...
> 
> But even though i tried it still worked once and then
> no more... It just hanged. The "message" wouldn't budge.
> Same keyword... The hilite also i noticed was only working
> once hilited and then no more (nu behavior since new word parser
> but same result - i said before that it took 3 or 4 clicks 
> before it locked.)
> 
> So it's, as i was afraid, a scripter's error! Arghh
> 
> I started commenting out all the scripts in the button that's supposed 
to be
> hit that was unneeded. And i left the essentials. 
> 
> Suddenly i get an error!
> I was adding 1 to a wrong array item... 
> A code line from mambo #2 - the xtalk word parser!
> 
> RevError suddenly spewed in total geometric disarray (seen this before 
for
> the same reasons somewhere too?)
> 
> Type add: destination has a bad format (numeric?)
> Object Learn
> Line add 1 to xosdictionary["currentword"]
> Hint button id 1030 of group id 1080 of card id 1002 of stack
> "F:/TAOO/Palettes/SpellNO2.rev"
> 
> Why wasn't that error showing up before??? I sure am glad i didn't enter 
a
> bugzilla for the wait problem! It's the debugger not following the path
> deeper into the problem... Something Bugzillaed months ago ...
> 
> Xcellent deduction thanks to DAR! My man! You saved me a rewrite ;) The 
next
> rev made dictionary is gonna rock with your name in the credits and the
> honorous free license emeritus circle in TAOO! 
> 
> SpellNO2 learned a whole paragraph in one pass thanks to you!!! Cool! 
Now, i
> got to start watching for badly spelled words and how it suggests "the 
real
> stuff"... And work out Xceptions... 
> 
> Thanks again Dar
> 
> revcheers
> Xav
> http://monsieurx.com 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Cragg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 19:28
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution
> > Subject: Re: problem waiting - spellchecker
> > 
> > On 1 Sep 2005, at 17:20, MisterX wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > repeat...
> > >   ...
> > >   put "wait" into xosdictionary["current"]
> > >   --put the waitdepth -- always 1
> > >   --if the waitdepth < 2 then
> > > wait until xosdictionary["current"] = "continue" with messages
> > >   -- else skip... poor idea...
> > >   --end if
> > >   ...
> > > end repeat
> > > then, any button in the spellchecker GUI will do something like 
> > > ignore, fix, etc... and then
> > >   ...
> > >   put "continue" into xosdictionary["current"] end mouseup
> > >
> > > The reason the wait is in the first place is to wait for the user 
> > > input (or abort). Since it's blocked, the only way this could work 
> > > (it's in a loop that parses each word) would be if i added a double 
> > > condition with a property reset and that gets messy...
> > >
> > > This requires major code change (not again, 2 already)...
> > >
> > > Why can't this wait statement work each time it is called?
> > > If it works 2 or 3 times why not 4 or more?
> > >
> > > What can affect this?
> > >
> > > Im removing now all outside influences for the next test run...
> > >
> > > The question remains, why does it lock up?
> > 
> > What do you mean by lock up?
> > 
> > If you mean it's hanging at the "wait" statement, then the 
> > first thought would be that the condition isn't being met. 
> > One way to explore this would be to use a function as the 
> > condition, and spit out some loggable data from within the 
> > function. Perhaps something like this:
> > 
> > repeat...
> >...
> >put "wait" into xosdictionary["current"]
> >--put the waitdepth -- always 1
> >--if the waitdepth < 2 then
> >  wait until myCondition() = "continue"  with messages
> >-- else skip... poor idea...
> >--end if
> >...
> > end repeat
> > 
> > function myCondition
> >put xosdictionary["current"] into tRetVal
> >put the milliseconds && ":" && tRetVal into field "log"
> >return tRetVal
> > end myCondition
> > 
> > In this way, you can see whether the condition is being 
> > continually checked or not, and monitor the value that should 
> > be changing. At least it should give you an idea of where 
> > things are going wrong.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Dave
> > 
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Re: problem waiting - spellchecker

2005-09-01 Thread xbury . cs
Dave

Interesting idea... Adding more pending messages ;)

I'll give this a try later...

Thanks...
Xavier

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> Hi,
> 
> Just at thought, but could you do something like this:
> 
> In handler that you want to wait in:
> 
> global gConditionFlag
> 
> 
> put false into gConditionFlag
> send CheckIfDone to this card in 10 ticks -- or a good value for the 
task
> 
> global gConditionFlag
> 
> on CheckIfDone
> if gConditionFlag = false then
> send CheckIfDone to me in 10 ticks -- or a good value for the task
> exit CheckIfD
> end if
> 
> --
> -- Do the update
> --
> 
> end CheckIfDone
> 
> not sure how this would fit into your project though.
> 
> All the Best
> Dave
> 
> >Hi everyone
> >
> >I've advanced quite a lot in the spell checker BUT
> >
> >the wait until [condition] with messages
> >
> >still gives me lots of troubles.
> >
> >It works usually the first time, maybe a second time,
> >but it definitely locks up after 2-4 loops...
> >
> >By locking up, i mean that it doesn't seem to get either the
> >"with messages" or that the condition is correct.
> >
> >I checked if the waitdepth is not > 1 but it is not. And if it
> >was, how do you delete the pending waits? grrr...
> >
> >After a control-C to abort the "wait", the error message indicates
> >that the lock up happens at the "wait" statement.
> >
> >What can cause this problem? Nothing else is running or being sent
> >or listed in the pending messages...
> >
> >This is far from reliable "at all" from what i can tell. Even if i
> >debug (usually forces things to work better - or worse ;), it doesn't
> >help. I see no cause for the wait to "hang"...
> >
> >Thanks for any help on this...
> >
> >Other than that, i got a "real" word parser going, and i'll be also
> >putting back the style to the corrected words where necessary... This
> >is quite a challenging application - to be done the right way ;)
> >
> >cheers
> >Xavier
> >
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Re: problem waiting - spellchecker

2005-09-01 Thread xbury . cs
Hi everyone

I've advanced quite a lot in the spell checker BUT

the wait until [condition] with messages 

still gives me lots of troubles.

It works usually the first time, maybe a second time,
but it definitely locks up after 2-4 loops...

By locking up, i mean that it doesn't seem to get either the
"with messages" or that the condition is correct.

I checked if the waitdepth is not > 1 but it is not. And if it 
was, how do you delete the pending waits? grrr...

After a control-C to abort the "wait", the error message indicates
that the lock up happens at the "wait" statement.

What can cause this problem? Nothing else is running or being sent
or listed in the pending messages... 

This is far from reliable "at all" from what i can tell. Even if i
debug (usually forces things to work better - or worse ;), it doesn't
help. I see no cause for the wait to "hang"...

Thanks for any help on this... 

Other than that, i got a "real" word parser going, and i'll be also
putting back the style to the corrected words where necessary... This
is quite a challenging application - to be done the right way ;)

cheers
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re: mainStack scripts, now Windows??

2005-08-31 Thread xbury . cs
Lars

Try to remove the traversal=ON from most menus and buttons - it just 
wrecks havoc with hillites...

Also, test your apps on windows 2000 AND XP where the themes will change 
teh geometry of
buttons, appearance of groups, and possibly more...

Just my two cents... Please vote for all windows issues in bugzilla too ;)

cheers
Xavier 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 31/08/2005 13:58:42:

> Hi all!
> 
> I thank Richard, Eric and Robert for their concise expalnations and 
> help.   Now that I have followed that advice (a different stack with 
> no script is now the mainStack) I'm happy as a clam.  One more thing 
> though;
> 
> One of the reasons I made the major changes to my project was to try 
> to make the Windows version run better.  I work on a Mac (OSX.4.2) 
> and was a little shocked to see the newest Windows standalone.  I 
> hadn't done one for many months after I originally convinced myself 
> it would work in Windows.  Now that the program has grown and morphed 
> into something far better and is nearing completion, I made another 
> Windows build.  I always knew I would need to buy Rev for Windows, at 
> least to get the fonts looking their "best," but I was a little 
> disappointed when I launched it.  On my Mac it is flawless, but on 
> windows, so many things flicker and stacks in the backgound flash 
> black when buttons are clicked in other stacks.  And my mainStack 
> flickers black when I navigate in it.  Now, the background of the 
> stack is black, and  the mask that provides the windowShape is black, 
> so a black flash makes sense, but why does it flash at all? I mean, 
> sometines two side by side buttons, whose icons were made in 
> Photoshop and other than their labels are indentical have tow 
> different color shades!!!  All of this before AND after the mainStack 
> script thing.
> 
> What can I expect from Rev for Windows?  Does a windows standalone 
> built in Windows function better?  Will I be able to solve these 
> problems working in Windows?  Has anyone out there built an app on a 
> make and found this type of behavior in a windows sandalone?  How did 
> you fix it?  I have little Windows experience, heck, maybe it's the 
> machine (cheap HP laptog, XP Home, 1.4 ghz Celeron, enough memory)
> 
> Any advice before I shell out the cash for my second platform copy of 
> Rev?
> 
> As always, tips are appreciated, and in this case, being begged for!
> 
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Interesting article for open source code

2005-08-31 Thread xbury . cs
Hi everyone,

This could help more than one person...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/31/koders_shareware_search_engine/

enjoy
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Re: external Windows program running?

2005-08-30 Thread xbury . cs
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Lynch, Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> You can also just check every now and then to see if the application is
> among the openprocesses.
> 
> And Xavier, you can launch an app via shell command without it locking
> up - at least, Chipp's method so far has not locked up the Rev app for
> me. I would be happy to send it to you, if you wish.

I know the method, i use since 5 years... 

shell("start" && myapp)

I do these all the time at work... But the shell without the "start"
seemed to be what you wanted... 

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Re: problem waiting - spellchecker

2005-08-30 Thread xbury . cs
im using 2.6...

And it is missing the "condition"...

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 30/08/2005 10:21:16:

> 
> On 30 Aug 2005, at 08:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Superb!!!
> >
> > Thanks all for your great help!!!
> >
> > We got a spellchecker almost working...
> >
> > The revDocs need help here!!! It sure wasn't clear at all...
> >
> > wait [for] number [seconds | ticks | milliseconds] [with messages]
> >
> > doesn't imply that you can add a condition to wait for! Only time...
> >
> > Where i was confused is that this looked like a
> >
> >   read from socket IP with message "whatever"
> 
> What version of Rev are you using? The current docs show these syntax 
> descriptions:
> 
>wait {until | while} condition [with messages]
>wait [for] number [seconds | ticks | milliseconds] [with messages]
>wait for messages
> 
> But I seem to remember in earlier versions that the "condition" 
> version wasn't listed.
> 
> Cheers
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Re: problem waiting - spellchecker

2005-08-30 Thread xbury . cs
Superb!!!

Thanks all for your great help!!! 

We got a spellchecker almost working...

The revDocs need help here!!! It sure wasn't clear at all...

wait [for] number [seconds | ticks | milliseconds] [with messages]

doesn't imply that you can add a condition to wait for! Only time...

Where i was confused is that this looked like a 

  read from socket IP with message "whatever"

thansk again!
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 30/08/2005 09:09:58:

> Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
> 
> > Is there supposed to be a handler checkContinue or can i just call
> > checkContinue
> > from my other button to "trigger" the "wait with" to continue?
> 
> Just check the value of a variable that is set by whatever 
controls/handlers
> cause your checking to be completed:
> 
>  wait until gCheckContinue with messages
> 
> And in a button (simplified):
> 
>  on mouseUp
>global gCheckContinue
>-- do my spellcheck stuff
>put true into gCheckContinue
>  end mouseUp
> 
> Make sense?
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: problem waiting - spellchecker

2005-08-29 Thread xbury . cs
  wait with messages "checkContinue"
 
doesn't compile

  wait with messages checkContinue
 
causes an execution error. 

I quit MC, launch Rev to see the help about it... Ah, now i see the wait 
... "with"

ok, so i tried...

wait 0 seconds with messages checkContinue
 
still an error!

Is there supposed to be a handler checkContinue or can i just call 
checkContinue
from my other button to "trigger" the "wait with" to continue?

still lost...
Xav


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> > would wait... with messages "" block the gui too though?
> 
> Nope - you use "with messages" specifically to avoid any "blocking".
> 
> Try it in a test stack.
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Re: problem waiting - spellchecker

2005-08-29 Thread xbury . cs
All my code is modularized from the start... But i thought a loop was 
necessary.

But B is how i went about it (still untested)... 

I just remember the last word i checked and continue...

would wait... with messages "" block the gui too though?

Thanks Brian


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> Xavier,
> 
> I would suggest either:
> 
> a) use "wait ... with messages"
> 
> or
> 
> b) modularize the code such that your buttons can pick up where your 
> code left off. IOW, there is no code running while waiting for a button 
> to be pressed. Just save off your progress, and wait for the next 
> click.
> 
> Hope that helps!
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Re: Emergency Mouse Polling Help

2005-08-29 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Jonathan

the only way i can see this work is via a macro-recorder program that 
sends an event to rev... 

I dont see how else... 

-=-
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> I need to know if I can use Rev to develop a background app on Windows, 
> that determines and launches an event if a key is depressed, I know how 
> to do this in a standard app, but not in the background...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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RE: write fails

2005-08-25 Thread xbury . cs
Jon

i use open file x for append... For log files, it is crucial not to erase 
the logs...

And while the |put data into url thisurl" is great, and easy but i 
wouldn't consider it as
a good practice if the file is over a certain size... 

but of course, depends on the application... 

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> I never use open, write, close...
> 
> I did at first, but it just never occurs that I need to do it that way.
> 
> The put URL and put into URL methods are so much easier.
> 
> If you have a file named "C:/my documents/my feet stink.txt" then you
> would address it like this (in Windows):
> 
> Put "file:C:/my documents/my feet stink.txt" into tFileURL
> Put URL tFileURL into tMyText
> -- do whatever you need to do with the text
> Put tMyNewText into URL tFileURL
> 
> 
> Now, if you are using binary data, in other words you need to make sure
> Revolution does not automatically change end of line markers to its own
> format, then put "binfile:" in front of the file path rather than
> "file:"
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: write fails
> 
> Jon,
> 
> I think you need to "open file" before writing to it, or, alternatively
> use 
> the "put URL"
> 
> See the docs for detail.
> 
> Pat
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> - Original Message - 
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> 
> 
> > I'm trying to log activity to a file with what I thought was a simple 
> > approach:
> >
> > put the date & " " & the long time & "  " & m & Return into s
> > write s to file "C:/RHOADS/EEOL2/Logs/log.txt" at end
> >
> > The file is not created automatically; after creating the file
> manually, 
> > the file remains empty; the path was copy-and-pasted from Windows 
> > Explorer, so I know it is correct; the string "s" has reasonable
> contents 
> > as verified with the Variable Watcher; and there are no run-time
> errors.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > :)
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Re: Rev On Top?

2005-08-25 Thread xbury . cs
Ooops

shows i havent applescripted in a while! Woah... 6 years now ;)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25/08/2005 14:24:50:

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> >Try in AS to
> >
> >   tell finder to hide app "filemaker pro"
> >
> >or something like that...
> >
> >-=-
> >Xavier
> 
> Actually, it should be the other way. Execute as AppleScript 
> something like this:
> 
>tell application "Revolution" to activate
> 
> "Revolution" must be an actual name of the process. This should cause 
> the program to come forward.
> 
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Re: write fails

2005-08-25 Thread xbury . cs
Jon

you need to open the file first... 

see Open file... Write file... and close file... Each has it's options 
too...

cheers
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25/08/2005 15:09:21:

> I'm trying to log activity to a file with what I thought was a simple 
> approach:
> 
> put the date & " " & the long time & "  " & m & Return into s
> write s to file "C:/RHOADS/EEOL2/Logs/log.txt" at end
> 
> The file is not created automatically; after creating the file manually, 

> the file remains empty; the path was copy-and-pasted from Windows 
> Explorer, so I know it is correct; the string "s" has reasonable 
> contents as verified with the Variable Watcher; and there are no 
> run-time errors.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> :)
> 
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Re: Rev On Top?

2005-08-25 Thread xbury . cs
Peter,

Try in AS to

  tell finder to hide app "filemaker pro"

or something like that...

-=-
Xavier

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> I have a Rev stack that uses AppleScript to access a FileMaker Pro 
> database.  However, I often find that the FMPro window remains on top 
> and I have to manually bring my Rev window to the front.  I have 
> tried using the "go this stack" command to bring Rev to the top but 
> it doesn't work.
> 
> Can anyone suggest how I can make sure my Rev window is on top/in front?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: Custom Answer File Dialog?

2005-08-24 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Scott,

Check out the MetaCard built-in file-answer dialog...

It should be  step in the right direction.

I've evolved it into my FileBrowser in TAOO (see the previously posted 
screenshots)
and i have yet to add the "ask" and "answer"  capabilities to it... 

You can take it pretty far...

cheers
Xavier Bury


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willing
> to share?  I have to manage some non-standard file navigation and it 
would
> be helpful to be able to skip reinventing the wheel if possible.
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
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Re: MIDI externals

2005-08-23 Thread xbury . cs
If this can help, I think you could work this out via MIDI-OX. It's a 
virtual MIDI manager that can be controled via VBS/WSH... There's a 
section of the page below dedicated to scripting it... Im sure this will 
save you hours of externals writing...

http://www.midiox.com/

here's what it does...

"MIDI-OX is a Windows 95/NT program (also Win98/Me/2000/XP). It is a 32 
bit program which will not operate under earlier versions of Windows. 
MIDI-OX is a multi-purpose tool: it is both a diagnostic tool and a System 
Exclusive librarian. It can perform filtering and mapping of MIDI data 
streams. It displays incoming MIDI streams, and passes the data to a MIDI 
output driver or the MIDI Mapper. You can generate MIDI data using the 
computer keyboard or the built-in control panel. You can even record and 
log MIDI data and then convert it to a Standard MIDI File for playback by 
a sequencer. Some additional information is available in the MIDI and 
Audio FAQ. "

And it's free... for non-commercial use...

cheers
Xavier

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> 
> --- Ken Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Howdy,
> > 
> > Is there an external for Windows (I think
> > they're called DLL's?) that
> > will select instruments and play MIDI notes
> > instantly? Not necessarily
> > a song sequence, but a note or chord.
> 
> i am working on something similar and could
> not get Shakobox for Windows to works as
> it does with Mac. am currently expanding
> from 1 channel to 16 with some extra factors
> and so have not tried this yet. send in time,
> here we come.
> 
> here are Jacquie & Jon:
> 
> > Jacquie:
> > I had some problems with that myself 
> > when I was testing the Windows
> > version. I couldn't make it work 
> > until I used the technique where I
> > wrote a temporary text file to disk.
> 
> I think this is the way you should do it. After
> you launch
> PlayCommandAgent.exe with shell(), write your
> command out to a file
> called c:\windows\playcmd.evt . Once you close
> the file it should 
> pick up the command. To do 16 channels,
> open/write/close the file 16 times.
> 
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Re: Program bar at bottom of Windows screen is blank

2005-08-22 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Steve,

The only thing i can think of that causes this is 
- no decorations or palette mode window (but then it wouldn't be visible 
in the task bar - only in task manager)
- you set the title of the window to a space or something like that...
- any MacOS-only characters in the title?

cheers
Xavier

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> Hopefully someone can help with the following question.   A created a 
Rev 
> program using Mac and built a standalone for Windows.   The program 
> resides in a 
> folder.   On Windows, the name of the folder shows up in the program bar 
at 
> the bottom of the screen, as it should.  However, on opening the (.
> exe) program 
> the name of the the .exe program is blank in the program bar.   One user 
has 
> mentioned that this could confuse people into thinking spyware or a 
virus is 
> operating.   The name of the program did not display in the Task 
> Manager either. 
> 
> If anyone is interested in seeing the program it is available as a free 
> download from www.medmaster.net.   The program name is 
> "MedSearcher."   It is the 
> first Revolution program that I have published.   It's designed to 
> allow users 
> to quickly search any of the major medical search engines.
> Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to enable the name of the .exe 
file 
> to show up in the program bar?   Thanks.
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Re: Blowing in the Wind

2005-08-16 Thread xbury . cs
simply mind blowing...

If only rev could "paint" that fast...

cheers
Xavier

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> 
> Shh...
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Re: Help with Windows Registry

2005-08-12 Thread xbury . cs
Mike,

if the data is hex, dont use binary...
See what the key contains first...

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> Hi Ray
> By reverse I would use queryRegistry and binaryDecode ?.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> Subject: Re: Help with Windows Registry
> 
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> > > Hello
> > > I've run into getting the hexadecimal data from the windows 
registry. I
> > > need to pull the Value Data from a Dword Value but I just get a "0". 
I'm
> > > trying this:
> > > put queryRegistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\CurrentControSet\Control
> > > \IDConfigDB\Alias\0001\ProfileNumber\")into field tNum
> > > Do I need to convert this Value Data since its Hexadecimal or can 
the
> > > value be read and placed into a field without conversion ?
> > > Any help with this would be great
> >
> > Take a look at the tip at my site:
> >
> > http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/revolution.htm?_win001
> >
> > This has to do with *setting* binary data in the registry, but you 
only
> need
> > to do the reverse in order to retrieve it.
> >
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Re: Windows Event run Rev app ?

2005-08-12 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Michael

I thought about that after writing the mail however and just like snmp 
traps (used for monitoring as well),
these are not geared for events like changes in the registry and the user 
events... Only hardware or 
system states and application events.

The security login can tell some access events but since there's no way to 
query just one event, you
have to import more events each time (or dump the events and loose the 
event log each time).

cheers
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/08/2005 13:38:57:

> Xavier
> about watching for events, capturing the event viewer log then sift 
through
> it for the id ?
> Michael
> - Original Message - 
> From: "MisterX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'How to use Revolution'" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:30 PM
> Subject: RE: Windows Event run Rev app ?
> 
> 
> > Michael
> >
> > not that i know other than watching for events via the event viewer
> > or writing an vbs monitor to do so... There's also specialized apps
> > for this (sysload comes to mind) but there's many others...
> >
> > cheers
> > Xavier
> >
> > > -Original Message-
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> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Michael
> > > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 02:12
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> > > Subject: Windows Event run Rev app ?
> > >
> > > Hello
> > > Any one know if there's a function in Rev to detect a Windows event 
?
> > > detect a error log event or a registry change. What I mean by
> > > this is the Windows event executing the rev app ?
> > >
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Re: Why can't I send tabKey?

2005-08-11 Thread xbury . cs
Damn,

two mails now that Ken has "hijacked" over my previous answers to this 
list...

Am i wasting my time writing answers to see others rewrite them over 
again?

Dan,

See the first response to your mail, it resolves this issue one handed... 
Why
mess with the rest?

In addition, if you want to send this to a field in particular and still 
use a generic
card/stack level handler, here's the way

on opencard
  doTabKey afield -- note the new parameter...
end OpenCard

on doTabKey afield
  select line 1 of field afield
  or whathaveyou
end doTabKey 

Or you could just say
on opencard
  select line 1 of field 1 

why go into all these hoops and loops when there's a simple solution?

Xavier


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> Ken
> 
> While "type tabKey" doesn't generate an error, it also doesn't do 
> what I think it should.
> 
> In my book, I had a script:
> 
> on openCard
>type tabKey
> end openCard
> 
> I suggested that if you did this, you could force the first field (in 
> tab order, of course) on a card to be active when a new card opens. 
> Doesn't work (though I could *swear* I tested it in 1.1.1 or whatever 
> version was current when I wrote the book two years ago). Nothing 
> happens. So I don't know if the tabKey is actually being typed or not 
> but if it is, it's not doing what I think tabbing SHOULD do.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Aug 11, 2005, at 8:08 AM, Ken Ray wrote:
> 
> > On 8/11/05 1:37 AM, "Dan Shafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> But if I try to send tabKey, with or without quotation marks and with
> >> or without a target, I always get a "can't find handler" error.
> >>
> >
> > That's because 'tabKey' isn't treated as a handler... it's treated 
> > as a
> > keystroke. You need to "type tabkey" instead of "send". I think 
> > this would
> > be the same as functionKey, etc. But I agree with you - if it is a 
> > handler
> > that can be trapped, it should be able to be "sent". So I'd still 
> > BZ it.
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Re: Looking for suggestions/advice

2005-08-11 Thread xbury . cs
I wrote a nice mail to respond to all this but again, i got 
censured/waiting for approval...

grrr

you'll have to wait until Heather gets to it if she does in time...

in brief, i have such an engine... 

cheers
Xav

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/08/2005 07:42:17:

> 
> On Aug 11, 2005, at 12:31 AM, Rodney Somerstein wrote:
> 
> > But, short of that, does anyone have any other suggestions?
> 
> I had thought of creating something like this as well in the past, 
> and had come to the conclusion that if I were doing it, I wouldn't 
> try to implement the rules. Instead, I'd simply focus on implementing 
> correct card behavior. So the game would understand a deck of cards, 
> a face-down card, a face-up card, and a card that is visible to only 
> a subset of players, with the ability to move each of these around on 
> a virtual table.
> 
> So for example, if you and I are playing blackjack and I am dealing, 
> I grab the deck and deal out a face up card on your side of the 
> table, a face down card on my side, a face up card on your side, and 
> a face up card on my side. I then "look" at my face down card. You 
> can see that I am looking, but not what I see.
> 
> Etc., etc.
> 
> The only thing preventing me from dealing both my cards face up is 
> that we both know how blackjack works. It doesn't need to be codified.
> 
> The end result is a virtual card table that can be used to play 
> almost any card game imaginable, without any further configuration. 
> We just need to agree to the rules.
> 
> I hadn't thought of stopping at cards -- implementing chess pieces 
> would be easier than playing cards, since they have a single 
> visibility state for all players. Want to play four-handed chess? 
> Chess on a 36x36 board with fifty pieces each? No problem, no 
> definition required.
> 
> Rev would be very well suited to this, by the way.
> 
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Re: New project

2005-08-11 Thread xbury . cs
Ben,

If you wait a week i might have "all that" wrapped up...
For Rev and MC...

cheers
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> On 8/11/05 11:54 PM, "Ben Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Hi Revolution community,
> >  I was wondering if there would be any interest for a new utility I'm
> > writing in Revolution.
> > It would include a variable watcher (that can view arrays), property
> > watcher, much-improved message box, perform operations on 
files/folders,
> > script editor, command-line prompt, and maybe more. One could also 
define
> > macros to perform repetitive tasks.
> >  If you have any other ideas that would be helpful for Rev 
programmers,
> > please tell me and if it's not too hard I'll try to do it. This 
project will
> > probably done in about a month.
> >  I really like Rev's way to set up a ui, but sometimes the scripts get 
a
> > little wordy. Like after working in c++ it's hard to look at "put 3 
into x"
> > and take it seriously. I'm thinking about writing something in the 
script
> > editor that could interpret things like "x=3" and then expand them. 
Also it
> > would be nice to do things like "myButton.customProp = 4."
> 
> Sounds great to me Ben... go for it!
> 
> 
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Re: Help with Windows Registry

2005-08-11 Thread xbury . cs
Michael

it is in hex so you have to read it as a hex (if the value is larger than 
9, a-f will not make sense 
in decimal notation...

so yes, you need to read it, convert it to hex (via baseconvert for 
example)and then put it into the field
for editing. 

Reverse the line above to write it... 

cheers
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> I've run into getting the hexadecimal data from the windows registry. I
> need to pull the Value Data from a Dword Value but I just get a "0". I'm
> trying this:
> put queryRegistry("HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\CurrentControSet\Control
> \IDConfigDB\Alias\0001\ProfileNumber\")into field tNum 
> Do I need to convert this Value Data since its Hexadecimal or can the
> value be read and placed into a field without conversion ?
> Any help with this would be great 
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Re: Looking for suggestions/advice

2005-08-11 Thread xbury . cs
Rodney,

One way to go around this limitation is to build an interpreter for the 
users.
What the users could do is work on a list of instructions that your script 
interpreter would execute for them.

This way you dont have the 10 line limit... However you have to wrap into 
handlers all the instructions you need to
execute... Depends on the breath of the application naturally.

Writing an interpreter is not as hard as it seems. Word 1 is a verb like 
doget, doset, doplay, doprint, doput, etc...

Checking the parameters after this verb is where it gets interesting but 
the simpler you make it, the easier naturally.

cheers
Xavier


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/08/2005 09:31:20:

> >By far the easiest way to handle this would be by exposing 
> >Transcript to your users. Send an email to the rev crew directly 
> >regarding your needs. The ten-line limit in executables is an 
> >artificial limit designed to prevent you from creating your own 
> >development environment in Rev and distributing it. It happened with 
> >SuperCard many years back. In the past, the rev crew have expressed 
> >at least a willingness to consider a separate license specifically 
> >to cover a situation like yours.
> 
> Thanks for the advice Jeff. I agree with what you say as being best. 
> I am creating a free program, so I don't want to spend more money on 
> this hobby. I've already been paying for my Pro license each year. 
> That is already more than I should spend on this product. I suppose 
> that it wouldn't hurt to ask just in case they are willing to let me 
> do it at no extra charge. Personally, I suspect it might end up 
> selling a few extra licenses when people see what they can do so 
> easily and I tell them where to go for an environment that would let 
> them create programs of their own like that.
> 
> But, short of that, does anyone have any other suggestions?
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Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Why can't I send tabKey?

2005-08-11 Thread xbury . cs
> Unless I'm losing it -- a distinct possibility -- there's an 
> intriguing bug in Rev.
> 
> I can use the "send" command to send all kinds of system messages to 
> various objects.
> 
> But if I try to send tabKey, with or without quotation marks and with 
> or without a target, I always get a "can't find handler" error.
> 
> Rev 2.6.1 on OS X 10.4.2. Can anyone confirm before I BZ this sucker?


same with send "ResizeStack"

I posted a mail to this respect some time ago... 

the trick is to

on tabkey
   dotabkey
end tabkey

on dotabkey
  the script here
end dotabkey

send dotabkey...

and that works!
Note that if you do this with a stackinuse or frontscript and try to debug 
the 
doresizestack, you may crash rev (as usual) ;)

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> Unless I'm losing it -- a distinct possibility -- there's an 
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> 
> I can use the "send" command to send all kinds of system messages to 
> various objects.
> 
> But if I try to send tabKey, with or without quotation marks and with 
> or without a target, I always get a "can't find handler" error.
> 
> Rev 2.6.1 on OS X 10.4.2. Can anyone confirm before I BZ this sucker?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: What's wrong with this?

2005-08-10 Thread xbury . cs
GOOD Catch Dave!!!

It crashes even MC2.6

 -- in the msg

but 

 should work... 

but how come it compiles this error?

put this to that -- outputs to the msg without compile errors... but it 
doesn't crash rev...

happy bugzilla trip!
Xavier

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> Hi,
> 
> I am getting a crashing problem in revolution when I do this:
> 
> put empty into myNewList
> put the folders into myFolderList
> repeat  for each line myFolder in myFolderList
> if char 1 of myFolder is a "." then next repeat
> 
> put myNewList & myFolder into myNewList
> end repeat
> 
> It crashes on the "if" statement, if I change it to this:
> 
> if char 1 of myFolder = "."
> 
> then it works! Can't understand by RunRev should crash!
> 
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Re: me vs. this?

2005-08-05 Thread xbury . cs
> What I most don't understand (??) is the relation between "me" and 
> "this X" when "me" is an instance of type X.
> 
> Charles

Charles

"me" is used when an object queries it's own properties or objects.

for example if i clicked in a field, the field script could ask:
on mouseup
  get the hilitedline of me
  if line 3 of me is empty then print me


same for a card or a stack or any object

get the long name of me


"THIS" is almost the same...

get the long name of this card... 

Compared to "ME", this can be used anywhere... 
Where as ME is restricted  to the object querying for a property of 
itself.

Get the number of cards in this stack
or
get the number of fields in this card

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED])& Windows (*&%(&)[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-08-04 Thread xbury . cs
Well, it (the IDE) doesn't crash/quit unexpectedly in Windows 2003 when 
doubleclicking the topleft windows menubar icon.

I tried this with the XP theme on... Ah, but slight difference, im use the 
MC IDE... sorry, dont have a rev ide to try it and little time today...

I hope i got it right this time ;)

cheers
Xavier

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> MisterX-
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> Thursday, August 4, 2005, 8:59:46 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > ahem... i've done that a few times and never had a crash...
> > how did you manage?
> 
> Rev didn't crash, it just exited. Turns out all Windows apps do this
> when you double-click the title bar icon. I tried it on MSWord just
> for fun.
> 
> 
> 
> ...although, speaking of MSWord, I have noticed that if you type the
> word "cudgelation" and request a spell check, the suggested
> substitution is "cud elation". Now I'm not particulary perturbed by
> the fact that the word wasn't in the dictionary or possibly spelled
> incorrectly, but I'm quite boggled by why "cud elation" is in the
> MSWord default spelling dictionary and why it's the preferred option.
> And I'd prefer not to even think about *what* it is.
> 
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Re: Locking messages with palettes

2005-08-04 Thread xbury . cs
thanks Eric...

i was afraid this was the problem... 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/08/2005 08:31:04:

> Hi Xavier,
> 
> Unfortunately, I confirm (Mac OS X - Rev 2.6):
> Lock messages is taken into account when using "go" or "toplevel"
> It's not when you use "palette" or "modeless"
> Worth to bugzilla it :-(
> 
> Le 5 août 05 à 07:08, MisterX a écrit :
> 
> > In TAOO every message is intercepted just in case it may help...
> >
> > Im working on my new script editor plugin and the launcher bar
> > then creates a new instance of the script editor window and
> > palettizes it.
> >
> > Only TAOO was detecting as an "object" class object (because they
> > share common elements).
> >
> > So i tried to lock messages (set the lockmessages to true) before
> > i do palette "script editor x"
> >
> > But the TAOO interception still occured.
> >
> > So i found that if i "Open" the stack there's no problem, the
> > lock messages is fine.
> >
> > But if i Palette the stack, the lock messages has no effect...
> >
> > Can anyone confirm this?
> 
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Re: global problems

2005-08-02 Thread xbury . cs
it's not different. The global is persistent until you delete it.

So if you delete your global and rerun your script (as you would recompile 
in other langs), 
the global wont show up again.

I thought i had demonstrated that with my script in the little mail 
following the question yesterday...


cheers
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> "In other languages, if you removed all references to a global and 
> recompiled, of course it would disappear...? "
> 
> Exactly!  This is SO counterintuitive, no matter how useful it might be 
> I NEVER would have even considered that the language might behave in 
> this way.  Another issue for the Intro For Newbies?
> 
> :)
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> Brian Yennie wrote:
> 
> > Global properties do!
> >
> > For me, the rationale is simple: globals are the ONLY way to have data 

> > which is _not_ stack specific. As such, closing or modifying a stack 
> > should never delete global data.
> >
> > Perhaps what you're really looking for is a stack-level local 
variable?
> >
> > I'm thinking the seeming oddity of the situation has something to do 
> > with the loose restrictions on declarations in xTalk, and the runtime 
> > nature. In other languages, if you removed all references to a global 
> > and recompiled, of course it would disappear...?
> >
> >> Right... well, the point I was trying to make is that there's
> >> *nothing* else that has this persistence. Maybe I chose a bad 
example.
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re : Objet : [OT] Software Carpentry

2005-08-02 Thread xbury . cs
Nice Pierre

> Java try to be... XTalks (Metacard, Rev, 
> Supercard,..) are, pratically, doing what the author expect to get 
> from J2EE ;-)

Except for one small detail... threading... ;)

XB


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Re: global problems

2005-08-01 Thread xbury . cs
Mark,

globals are best used as "environment" variables. Not as persistent 
storage.
Your example shows that if stack b opens and fails to work with a global, 
you
didn't set a pre-requisite (nor a check) for xyz's conformity... that's 
asking for
trouble.

If stack B had this check, it could then as stack A to fill in xyz to 
later use it.

In another case, if you close stack A and delete xyz without cheking if 
another stack
could still use it, implies a fault in the logic of the program...

So one solution in this case, would be to tell stack B to look into a 
custom property
which stack A could preset for stack B before close.

Seems like a shoot-yourself-in-your-own foot script to me ;)

> no... I declare globals sometimes thinking I'll need them for
> cross-stack variables, then usually rethink things and can do without
> them. But then they're still in memory causing trouble.

I've used dozens of globals in XOS for 15 years without ONE problem... 
creating them on the fly, closing stacks, etc... but one thing i do always
is to check first for existence and validity... with that, you've got
yourself a lifesaver for every occasion... And if i open a stack that
requires a specific global, it checks first to make sure that it is
properly initialized or that it knows how to initialize it or to call
the stack that will. 

programming is a process... 

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/08/2005 08:37:43:

> Brian-
> 
> Monday, August 1, 2005, 6:56:19 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > For me, the rationale is simple: globals are the ONLY way to have data
> > which is _not_ stack specific. As such, closing or modifying a stack
> > should never delete global data.
> 
> I still don't get this. Can you give me an example of something you'd
> declare as a global and *want* it to stick around when the stack that
> declared it is closed?
> 
> > Perhaps what you're really looking for is a stack-level local 
variable?
> 
> no... I declare globals sometimes thinking I'll need them for
> cross-stack variables, then usually rethink things and can do without
> them. But then they're still in memory causing trouble.
> 
> > I'm thinking the seeming oddity of the situation has something to do
> > with the loose restrictions on declarations in xTalk, and the runtime
> > nature. In other languages, if you removed all references to a global
> > and recompiled, of course it would disappear...?
> 
> ...which is what I expected to happen here... my bad.
> 
> Here's a problem scenario as a gedanken-experiment:
> 
> Open stack A
> stack A has the global gXYZ
> *and* puts a value into gXYZ
> finish working with stack A, close and remove from memory
> 
> Open stack B
> stack B also declared global gXYZ
> now stack B is open and has a value in gXYZ
> but never initializes it
> exit the IDE
> 
> Relaunch the IDE
> Open stack B
> now stack B has no value in gXYZ
> and some functions fail that rely on gXYZ
> 
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Re: global problems

2005-08-01 Thread xbury . cs
have you tried

  global x2
  put 5 into x2
  delete global x2
  get the globalnames
  replace comma with cr in it
  put it

i dont see x2 anymore...

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> Ken-
> 
> Of course, I managed to poke around a bit and get this to happen. I
> knew there was *something going on*. Here's the real problem - doesn't
> have anything to do with loop indices at all:
> 
> Global variables are persistent in memory, even when they've been
> purged. Once you have declared a global variable, even if you have
> deleted the line of code that declared it, you're stuck with it. You
> can't change it into a local variable and you can't have another local
> variable with the same name, even in a different stack, without
> invoking a compiler error about the local variable name shadowing
> another.
> 
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RE: [OT] Windows Command Help

2005-07-29 Thread xbury . cs
Jon

Nice and extensive! ;)

Here's the simple form i use in my file browser

if the platform is "Win32" then
  put queryRegistry("HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\."&ftype&"\") into thisappClass
  put 
queryRegistry("HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\"&thisappClass&"\shell\open\command\") 
into thisapp
  delete word 2 of thisapp -- %1
  if thisapp is not empty then
launch (quote & fld "path" && thisfile & quote) with thisapp
get the result
  end if

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/07/2005 15:37:17:

> There are a number of nuances to this issue, depending on which windows
> system you are using, etc...
> 
> I pieced together the following script from scripts that others created
> for this purpose. (Just so no one thinks I am stealing someone else's
> thunder.) It seems to work pretty well...
> 
> on launchdocument pWhich
>   if there is not a file pWhich then exit launchdocument
>   revSetWindowsShellCommand
>   put revRunningWindowsNT() into tNT
>   if the platform is "Win32" then
> replace "/" with "\" in pWhich
> --put "file:///" before pWhich
> set the itemdelimiter to "."
> put the last item of pWhich into tExtension
> put "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\." & tExtension & "\" into tQuery
> put queryRegistry(tQuery) into tApp
> 
> PUT "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\" & tApp & "\shell\open\command\" into tQuery
> put queryRegistry(tQuery) into tAppCommand
> put word 1 of tAppCommand into tAppCommand
> replace quote with empty in tAppCommand
> if not tNT then
>   get shell("start " & quote & tAppCommand & quote && quote & pWhich
> & quote)
> else
>   set the hideconsolewindows to false
>   open process (tAppCommand && quote & pWhich & quote) for neither
> end if
> put the result into tResult
> --answer tResult
> if tResult = "not opened" then
>   if tAppCommand = empty then
> answer "I'm sorry, but your computer does not have an
> application associated with that file extension. Shall I attempt to open
> it with your browswer?" with "yes" and "no"
> if it is "yes" then 
>   revgourl pWhich
> end if
>   else
> get shell("start " & quote & tAppCommand & quote && quote &
> pWhich & quote)
> if the result <> empty then
>   answer "I'm afraid I was unable to open the document with the
> associated application. Shall I attempt to open it with your browser
> instead?" with "yes" and "no"
>   if it is "yes" then 
> revgourl pWhich
>   end if
> end if
>   end if
> end if
> --  else if the platform is "MacOS" then
> --if "appleScript" is not in the alternateLanguages then
> --  return "Error: AppleScript not installed"
> --end if
> --do ("open location" && quote & pWhich & quote) as appleScript
> --  else
> --if gREVWebBrowser is empty
> --then launch "mozilla" && quote & pWhich & quote
> --else launch gREVWebBrowser && quote & pWhich & quote
>   end if
> end launchdocument
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian K.
> Maher
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:59 AM
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: [OT] Windows Command Help
> 
> Hi Jon,
> 
> In Rev just use the shell.  The command would be "start
> you_file_name_goes_here".
> 
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Re: [OT] Windows Command Help

2005-07-28 Thread xbury . cs
Dan

if you type 

echo %ProgramFiles%
you will get the path by default were apps are installed

you can do a find using the F3 or WindowKey+F and search for acrobat...

if the exe is not in your paths then, there's no way windows will go 
looking for it...

I just tried it
D:\NBU 5.0\Doc>start MediaMgr_AdminGuide_SSO.pdf
it works...

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/07/2005 07:03:22:

> Not on this end.
> 
> Well, I should say that I tried it directly in the shell, not from 
> Rev. There, I typed:
> 
> start "blah\blah\doc.pdf"
> 
> It opened a new command line window and stared at me.
> 
> I'll try it tomorrow from inside Rev.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Jul 28, 2005, at 7:51 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
> 
> > get shell("start" && tPathToDocument) -- works for me
> >
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Re: Urgent (desperate) cry for help...

2005-07-28 Thread xbury . cs
according to my version here in Win2003 (like XP), i also get 

URLencode("Coördinator")=Co%F6rdinator

so i would assume the problem to be with the urlencode function or the way
windows and mac differ on that kind of translation... 

Oh yes... macs and pcs dont encode ö as the same ASCII so it must be 
perfectly normal

sorry for the bad news...
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/07/2005 14:58:41:

> I know I'm doing something wrong, there has to be a better way, but I 
> just can't figure out what I'm doing wrong...
> 
> Situation:
> - mySQL 4.1 running on a windows server
> - RR 2.6 OSX & Windows XP
> - Clients need to be Mac OS9, Mac OS-X and Windows XP
> 
> I started development on the OS-X. Data in a field on a card needs to 
> be stored in the database.
> No problem there for regular text, but when entering text with 
> special chars in, it's a no-go... The word "Coördinator" appears in 
> the database as "Co".
> 
> In a clever moment (at least that's what I thought), very early in 
> the project, I implemented the URLencode and URLdecode functions to 
> get rid of this pesky little problem.
> 
> Then D-Day arrived: We had to install at the client the first beat- 
> version of the program, to start testing.
> 
> First the OS-X Macs: Works like a charm.
> Then the Windows machines... No way of getting the data in the 
> correct way out of the database!
> 
> URLencode("Coördinator") on OSX stores "Co%9Ardinator" in the database
> URLencode("Coördinator") on Windows stores "Co%F6rdinator" in the 
> database
> URLdecode of the Mac-encoded data on the PC obviously returns the 
> wrong data :-((
> 
> The tables in mySQL are set to accept UTF-8, when I enter the text 
> manually there is no problem with special chars, so it is RR needing 
> something special.
> 
> Anyone, HELP, PLEASE
> 
> - Waht is the best way to communicate with mySQL?
> - Why is the URLencode different on both platforms WITHOUT ANY 
> NOTIFICATION IN THE MANUAL?
> - And of course: What is the proper way to enter and retrieve data in 
> and out a mySQL?
> 
> The URLencode/decode stuff shocked me, the main problem must be 
> something stupid...
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> 
> 
> Ton Kuypers
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RE: Shell "start" with value

2005-07-27 Thread xbury . cs
For most shell batches, if found it extremely useful to
1 test it in a real batch... this proves the shell command HAS to work
2 put the whole shell command into a variable - this makes it easier to 
debug...
3 Always enclose the paths (or verify that it needs) with quotes.

The verification is real easy: 

if there is a space in mypath or "&" is in mypath then quoteit(mypath)

Last but not least, and this is a real tough one to find:
make sure that the directory is a valid path before launching your shell. 

hope that gets you going!
cheers

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 27/07/2005 12:22:14:

> Ok should have given it 10 more minutes,
> Now I'm seeing it !
> got the line to work thanks for the direction,
> got it this way,
> 
> put "setx" && "iploc" && quote & tiPadd & quote && "-m" into sSetenv
> get shell (sSetenv)
> set the hideConsoleWindows to true
> 
> Thanks !!
> MisterX
> 
> On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 06:47 +0200, MisterX wrote:
> > for one, if there is a space in location, this will fail.
> > You will need to eclose it in quotes.
> > 
> > Second the iploc and tipadd are strings not values in the
> > quotes.
> > 
> >  get shell ("start" && quote & location & "setx.exe" & quote && IPLoc 
&&
> > tIPadd)
> > 
> > should work better
> > 
> > cheers
> > Xavier
> > http://monsieurx.com
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Michael
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 06:39
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> > > 
> > > Hello, 
> > > 
> > > Have run into something I just seem to not solve and asking 
> > > if someone may have an answer to this one.
> > > I'm running the shell command for and environment add and 
> > > need to add the value with it, but of couse just get IPLOC=tIPadd.
> > > tIPadd is the value of and ipaddress. 
> > > Anyone know how I can get this in there, its WinXP so I'm 
> > > using the setx.exe file to get the environment add global.
> > > 
> > > get shell ("start" && location & "setx.exe IPLoc tIPadd")
> > > 
> > > Thanks for any help
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Re: Another Doc Thought

2005-07-26 Thread xbury . cs
Hi guys,

i've had it happened too. Now, im more careful... 
you can always make sure you have selected your control by double clicking 
it...

cheers
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> That happens to me all the time. I just change the name of the main 
stack
> back. I think it happens when you think a particular object is selected 
and
> it is actually the main stack that is selected.
> 
> But how would you fix this?
> 
> 
> On 7/26/05 9:12 AM, "Charles Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> > some point (??) I discover that in the locked Inspector the name of
> > my main stack has been changed. (The title of the Inspector window
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Re: ChatRev DOWN!

2005-07-26 Thread xbury . cs
who said they didn't care?

ChatRev is by far the best communications channel for RunRev ;)

I care! ;)

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Re: empty ask result + ok = result:cancel

2005-07-26 Thread xbury . cs
Joel,

Thanks, Eric told me offlist about this version problem. I uploaded this 
morning the fix and it works
as expected. I also closed the bug...

Thanks for the help
Cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26/07/2005 09:46:00:

> Dear Mister X,
> 
> I mentioned such a bug (#3019) in build 91 and it has been 
> wonderfully fixed for the current downloable build.
> 
> In  the msg box, "put  version(), buildnumber()" should reply 
> "2.6.5,108". Otherwise download and reinstall Rev 2.6 again.
> 
> Also I agree with Eric, you should place the result() function just 
> after the ask statement:
> 
> ask "Replace what:" with lselection
> if result() is "cancel" then exit mouseup
> put it into x
> 
> Hope this help.
> 
> Joel G
> 
> 
> Le 25 juil. 05 à 04:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a 
> écrit :
> 
> > Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:04:06 +0200
> > From: "MisterX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > ...
> >   ask "Replace what:" with lselection
> >   put it into x
> >   get the result
> >   if it is "cancel" then exit mouseup
> >
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Re: # PROBABLY SPAM #::URL path to Windows server?

2005-07-24 Thread xbury . cs
K

all you need is to mount the drive and copy.

use the "net use" command. It has all the parameters you speak of.
(type "net help use" for instructions on how to use it)

Another way, assuming you have administrator priviledges is to use
a simple shell copy command...

the put url will only work with case 1...

cheers
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> If I use the 'get URL' and 'put x into URL' command to get and put 
> data from and into a file:path/data.txt file... how do I do that when 
> the data is to be held on a network server? This'll be a Windows 
> server; in one instance a steam-driven Win98 thing, in the other 
> instance something far more up to date.
> 
> I don't have one to play with right now, and I'd rather avoid ending 
> up thrashing about experimenting too much when I can get to one. But 
> I'm worried about how to handle access permissions to the file. This 
> is one of the ways recommended for handling (basic) multiple-person 
> access to a data source file, and it makes lots of sense in most ways 
> - but I can't see how to build in the username/password fileserver 
> access aspect.
> 
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Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Anomolous is among

2005-07-22 Thread xbury . cs
Fantastic, we have quantum word amongness functions in rev now ;)

Reminds me the joke:
Q: Ever seen an elephant hidden behind a light post?
A: no...
Reply: Well hidden, wasn't it? ;))


On 22/07/2005 14:14:59 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>put "penguin" is among the words of "1 2 3 4" =  FALSE
>
>put "penguin" is among the words of "1 2 3 4 " = TRUE
>
>hmm.  Comments?
>
>/H
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Re: Indexing mail list messages

2005-07-22 Thread xbury . cs
Al,

To remove the RevWordDefitiency, just replace "," with " " in yourtext

do the same for any punctuation, and all non-wordy characters the
RevWordDefitiency implies!

cheers
Xavier

On 22/07/2005 14:55:42 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>on Fri, 22 Jul 2005
>Dave Cragg wrote:
>
>> Just one small observation:
>> >   repeat for each line w in fileContent
>> > add 1 to mylinecount
>> > repeat for each word z in w
>> >   put mylinecount & comma after wordCount[z]
>> > end repeat
>> >   end repeat
>> z will include any puntuation attached to words, so
>> "script","script,", "script?", etc. will be indexed
>> separately.
>> (Unless I missed the point where you accounted for
>> this.)
>
>You are right. This first version handler
>will include words with any punctuation attached.
>This is wrong. :-(
>
>i'm working to apply the advices that alex and brian
>generously provide last night.
>When i have a complete handler that implements
>all their recomendations, i'll post the results.
>
>Did you have a regex that could handle these
>words with punctuation?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>al
>
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Re: PC/x-platform development (was Re: embed/install font)

2005-07-21 Thread xbury . cs
Brad,

I dont think nothing is stopping you from copying your stack to a mac and
running it via a demo player... 

Once the stack is made (on a PC for example), i dont think you need to
recompile it to run on Macs or Linux. 

But i could be wrong...

cheers
Xavier

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>Ah, but I only have the Mac development platform. I guess that argues
>for me to get the PC platform.
>
>Which raises a couple of points:
>
>1) I got tired of paying Macromedia for the right to develop on two
>platforms. Every time Director upgraded, I had to shell out another $800
>for the upgrade on both platforms. I'm glad that Rev Studio on the Mac
>creates xplatform executables, but it sure would be nice to have both
>platforms included in the purchase of the product.
>
>2) As the development platform depends on the player, would it be
>possible to create a limited development stack that would basically
>allow the testing of commands (like you list below) that would be
>interpreted by the player?
>
>I guess the issue comes down to this: In director you could get away
>with creating movies that were playable on a PC using a "stub" projector
>(essentially a player). It was doable, but troubleshooting was a real
>PITA. I'm thinking the same it true of Rev?
>
>Trevor DeVore wrote:
>
>> If you set the externals property of a stack while the stack is open
>> then you need to do one of two things to load the external:
>>
>> 1) Set the destroyWindow property of the stack to true.  Close the
>> stack window and open it again.
>>
>> 2) Remove the stack from memory.  Open it again.
>>
>> Here is a snippet of code that will create a new stack, set the
>> externals property and load the exteranl.  You can run this in the
>> multiline message box:
>>
>> create stack "MyStack"
>> set the destroyWindow of stack "MyStack" to true
>> set the externals of stack "MyStack" to "EnhancedWin.dll"
>> close stack "MyStack"
>> go stack "MyStack"
>> put the externalPackages of stack "MyStack"
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Re: going nuts again

2005-07-21 Thread xbury . cs
Thanks Chipp,

I'll give it an idle try ;)

Is this a problem only on windoze or Mac also? Now, i can confirm it also 
happens on win2000, XP and 2003!

After deleting the images, deleting the buttons, recreating the buttons, 
the images (to revspec)
reimporting them, reseting the patterns on the buttons, i noticed that one 
button still screws up.

Last thing i saw (but not the first time) is that if the button is 
autohilite - when you click the button
the pattern goes "black"...

Weird indeed... 

I'll keep trying to isolate this but it's the damnation of any theme group 
i create... There's always
one or the other control screwing up... no matter how i reset it...

cheers
Xavier

On 21/07/2005 07:56:31 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Hi X,
>
>I think you need the following:
>
>on idle
>reset all the background of all the buttons to what they should be
>end idle
>
>:-)
>
>Seriously,
>Here's how I'd approach it:
>
>Step 1: Can I programatically 'reset' the backgrounds by:
>
>set the backgroundPattern of btn "myButt" to ""
>set the backgroundPattern of btn "myButt" to img "moon"
>
>or if that doesn't work try setting the bgPattern to one texture, then
>the other, then back to the first. See if toggling it in this manner
>doesn't provide results. Try inserting a 'set alwaysBuffer to false'
>then back to true in-between. Just some ideas.
>
>Step 2: If you can 'force' a reset programatically, then you may need to
>fire a handler every so often to check.
>
>best,
>
>Chipp
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RE: Web site security using Rev

2005-07-20 Thread xbury . cs
Jim

Sorry, it's not how i had read it (missing details?)

Yes, in that case it is possible to have the cgi verify the security of a 
section which
you can preset wantonly. 

cheers
Xavier



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>OK, I may be spacing out here, but HTML an call a CGI script with parms,
>which, in turn, can make the HTML dynamic. I just thought this would be a
>convenient way to experiment with Rev CGI. It's a small number pages. 
-Jim
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>
>This is not something the cgi can do if you dont go via the cgi.
>Going to sub folders is not something the cgi will detect (AFAIK).
>
>Permissions should be set either at the ftp level or in IIS via the IIS
>Manager, or the NT permissions.
>Sorry, dont know about apache but i think that falls in the ftp
>permissions.
>
>cheers
>Xavier
>
>On 20/07/2005 07:43:38 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>>Has anybody used Rev to password protect a section of a website, rather
>than
>>using ASP or CF or other database solution? Just a basic login page, and
>if
>>anyone tries to go directly to a subdirectory of the login page, without
>>logging in, they get bounced back to the login page? CGI can do this.
>Anyone
>>have a demo stack or tutorial?
>>
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Re: Web site security using Rev

2005-07-19 Thread xbury . cs
This is not something the cgi can do if you dont go via the cgi.
Going to sub folders is not something the cgi will detect (AFAIK).

Permissions should be set either at the ftp level or in IIS via the IIS 
Manager, or the NT permissions.
Sorry, dont know about apache but i think that falls in the ftp 
permissions.

cheers
Xavier

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>Has anybody used Rev to password protect a section of a website, rather 
than
>using ASP or CF or other database solution? Just a basic login page, and 
if
>anyone tries to go directly to a subdirectory of the login page, without
>logging in, they get bounced back to the login page? CGI can do this. 
Anyone
>have a demo stack or tutorial?
>
>Jim
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Re: Newbie Question

2005-07-14 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Hamburger

You can either do a frontscript or the good old stackinuse

cheers
Xavier

On 14/07/2005 13:55:25 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>I'm in the process of switching from HyperCard. I put several handlers &
>functions in my home stack that are used in other stacks. Where do I put 
these
>scripts in Revolution?
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Re: Global scope of functions

2005-07-14 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Rob

Yes, that's the way. However if it is only one card, clarity can be 
improved 
if your card related scripts are in the card scripts and the stack-only
related scripts reside in the stack script. This is IMOHO the best way
 for future expansions of the software.

If you have more than one card (in a background group for example) then
it's best to keep things in the background script instead of the card. The
card script being only local to that card. Naturally the stack script 
applies
again here. But if there are 2 backgrounds, then the stack scripts may 
introduce conflicts between group operations...

The advantage of the stack script is that it sees it all in the stack...

cheers
Xavier

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>Dear Colleagues
>I'm producing a new tool for my research, and I'm trying to do this
>'properly'. In other words, I am trying to cut down the amount of coding
>scattered through the application (buttons, menus etc) and put calls
>to functions or handlers at these locations. I then assemble all the
>functions and handlers in the stack script (app is a 1 card stack).
>
>Is this the logical way forward, or have others found better ways?
>
>--
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>Rob
>
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RE: Window Positioning Bug? [WORKAROUND]

2005-07-13 Thread xbury . cs
Guys,

Also, once you select the window, type alt-space - (the menu of the window 
(topleft corner) will
drop down, and all you need is to type M (as in "Move) and then use the 
arrows to put it back
where you want it. Type C to close the darn thing ;)

set the loc of this stack to 100,100 -- (or the mouseloc) should work 
also...

cheers
Xav

On 13.07.2005 15:19:57 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Charles,
>
>I don't know about Mac, but in the case of Windows, and only for screens
>with a title bar, that show up in the Taskbar (Documentation window has 
one,
>Application Browser doesn't), you can right click on the window in your
>Taskbar and select Move, and then use the appropriate cursor keys to inch
>the window back on to your main monitor, from a monitor that has been
>removed.
>
>Now I suppose, if somebody knows the names of the Application Browser and
>Reference Documentation stacks, you could use your Message Box to set 
their
>Locations back to your main monitor. Anyone?
>
>Jim
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>
>
>
>
>On Jul 13, 2005, at 7:40 AM, Jim Bufalini wrote:
>
>
>This raises a second question, though. I run two monitors. How does Rev
>
>address the second or more monitors (I believe the limit software wise
>in
>
>WinXP is 9 monitors)? I notice, for example that the Documentation
>screen
>
>reliably comes back, where I left it, on my second screen.
>
>
>
>
>Yes -- what it does _not_ do is come back (at all!) if it last appeared 
on
>the second screen and if the second screen was since disconnected. So --
>
>
>But, the
>
>Application Browser never returns to the second screen.
>
>
>
>
>-- Rev seems to have a general problem with second displays on Mac.
>
>
>I should mention, my
>
>two screens have different resolutions, which is not uncommon.
>
>
>
>
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Re: ResizeStack help, please

2005-07-13 Thread xbury . cs
Jon

I can confirm that resizestack works in cards, backgrounds or stacks and 
even frontscripts (just be careful debuging them)...

im sure the error is elsewhere

cheers
Xavier

On 13.07.2005 15:11:37 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>I have a handler in my Stack that displays an image.  In order to get
>the size of the image right, I have some special code to do the
>scaling.  In order to keep the image looking right when the user resizes
>the card/stack, I wrote a ResizeStack handler and put the image scaling
>code in the ResizeStack handler.
>
>First confusion.  The name of the handler is ResizeStack, but it doesn't
>seem to work when it is put in the Stack. The documentation says that
>the message is sent to the Card, not the Stack, so I moved the handler
>to the Card, but it still is not called.
>
>Does it matter where the ResizeStack handler is located?   This is more
>confusing than one would hope it would be.
>
>Jon
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Re: Folder size

2005-07-13 Thread xbury . cs
Chris,

Is this for Mac or PC?

If it is for PC, there's a utility called "diruse.exe" in the Moft 
Resource kit that does this 
quite nicely... 

cheers
Xavier

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>Hello folks -
>
>Anyone know if there is an easy way in Rev of getting the size of a
>folder (together with all it's sub-folders).  I know I can do a loop
>using "detailed files" and "detailed folders" but that seems a bit
>long-winded, and I'm sure I'd be re-inventing the wheel!  Is there
>another way, or is there an existing function anywhere that I can pinch?
>
>TIA
>
>Chris
>
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Re: Transfering stack between WinXP and MacOS9

2005-07-11 Thread xbury . cs
JB,

Maybe a byte by byte file comparison could help...

cheers
X

On 11/07/2005 12:04:15 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Nope, the file name is very straightforward : Demo.rev
>(actually the same name as the original MacOS9 stack).
>
>However, I'm wondering : the stack on WinXP has been
>configured (via the "Standalone application settings" menu)
>before being saved as a standalone (of course, it's the
>source code that I'm trying to transfer)... Could it be the
>origin of the problem ?
>
>Thanks,
>JB
>
>> Any illegal file name characters (:) in the name maybe?
>>
>> just a thought...
>>
>> On 11/07/2005 11:53:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>> >Hi list,
>> >
>> >I'm facing a problem for the 1st time :
>> >I have a stack built on MacOS9 which I transfered
>> >safely to WinXP (zipped file via ftp). After improving
>> >a few thing on Win, I'd like to transfer it back on OS9.
>> >But whatever method I try, I get the message "stack
>> >corrupted" when opening it on Mac...
>> >Both versions of the stack (Mac & Win) feature the
>> >same number of bytes, and it still opens OK on Win...
>> >
>> >Such stack transfer is something I've done for years,
>> >either with MC or Rev stacks...
>> >
>> >Any clue ?
>> >Thanks,
>> >JB
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Re: Transfering stack between WinXP and MacOS9

2005-07-11 Thread xbury . cs
Any illegal file name characters (:) in the name maybe?

just a thought...

On 11/07/2005 11:53:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Hi list,
>
>I'm facing a problem for the 1st time :
>I have a stack built on MacOS9 which I transfered
>safely to WinXP (zipped file via ftp). After improving
>a few thing on Win, I'd like to transfer it back on OS9.
>But whatever method I try, I get the message "stack
>corrupted" when opening it on Mac...
>Both versions of the stack (Mac & Win) feature the
>same number of bytes, and it still opens OK on Win...
>
>Such stack transfer is something I've done for years,
>either with MC or Rev stacks...
>
>Any clue ?
>Thanks,
>JB
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Re: revDeleteFolder and Lessons Learned..

2005-07-08 Thread xbury . cs
You're too funny Klaus,

That's the script i use professionally... On EMC TB storage.
When it comes to delete 10 millions files... There's no way
I'd use Rev-Anything... I tested it for a minor monthly deletejob
and it didn't even work for the test. So...

So, if you ask a professional that does this kind of stuff for the 
past 6 years?

First test this on a test drive (or mountpoint).
Never on your data or OS drive...

Then implement... Chipp seems to know what i mean now ;)

cheers
Xavier

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>Bonjour Xavier,
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> Why not ask a professional? :)
>
>A VERY good idea!
>
>Do you happen to know one? :-D
>
>
>Best
>
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Re: revDeleteFolder and Lessons Learned..

2005-07-08 Thread xbury . cs
Guys,

Why not ask a professional? :) I delete production files in a huge huge 
file system among 20 each day.
I CANNOT make a mistake when i delete these things... We're talking 
banking production...

This is what i use for the past 4 years without ONE error...

It works in NT4, NT2000 and XP. Note that the path furnished needs to be 
"\" and not "/" delimited.

cheers
Xavier

function DeleteDir apath
  if " " is in apath or "&" is in apath and quote is not in apath
  then put quote & apath & quote into apath
  set the itemdelimiter to "\"
  get last item of shrname
  if char -1 of it is quote then delete last char of it
  if "$" is in char -1 of it then
delete char -1 of it
if length(it) = 1 or it = "IPC" then return "Danger: trying to delete 
a system share!" && shrname
  end if
  get shell("rd" && apath && "/s /q")
  return it
end DeleteDir


On 08/07/2005 13:58:29 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>On 8 Jul 2005, at 12:22, Alex Tweedly wrote:
>
>> Chipp Walters wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> Well, since I passed revDeleteFolder a single "/" and it tried to
>>> delete (w/out being able to be interrupted) the *entire* hard
>>> disk, I would say it's less dangerous to 'roll your own'. I would
>>> expect revDeleteFolder to take as an argument a valid path,
>>> including drive letter. For instance I would expect:
>>>
>>> revDeleteFolder "C:/"
>>>
>>> to delete the C drive. I don't know why just "/" does it and I'm
>>> afraid to test it with a null, especially since it can't be
>>> interrupted. Anything you roll on your own can be interrupted with
>>> a control-period.
>>>
>>>
>> "/" works  because "/" is a valid directory specifier for Rev. You
>> can do
>>set the defaultFolder to "/"
>> and it does; you don't need a drive specifier.
>> Come to think of it, you can do it in a Windows shell (or whatever
>> a DOS box is called these days) - "cd \"  works.
>
>Interesting, as
>there is a folder "/"
>returns false on XP and true on OS X. Which could prove an insidious
>danger.
>
>
>> I think it would be good to have an optional parameter pConfirm
>> which would require a user confirmation for each directory (or
>> maybe even each file ?). That would make it much more "comfortable"
>> to develop and test an application without fear of inadvertently
>> passing a bad starting directory, and the parameter could be
>> reverted to (the default of) "off" before shipping.
>
>Sounds good.
>
>Cheers
>Dave
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Re: revDeleteFolder and Lessons Learned..

2005-07-07 Thread xbury . cs
Chipp,

I did send a previous warning about these revhandlers 2 months ago...

http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-May/057551.html

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Re: SelectionChanged issue

2005-07-07 Thread xbury . cs
I would say to use the mousewithin (the howitzer canon) or an idle 
message...

Is the idle so bad?

on idle
  get the selchunk
  if it is empty or myfield is not in it then pass idle
end idle...

a millisecond trigger should do the trick too...

On 07/07/2005 10:49:55 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Hi Xavier,
>
>Not any message is sent by the engine when you just click anywhere in
>the text of a field.
>My question was:
>Is there a best way than using a pending message (kind of 75-mm gun
>to shoot a spider as we say in French -:) to know in real time if
>there is at least 1 selected char in a field and not only the
>insertion point blinking?
>At the moment I use a pending message which checks if word 4 of the
>selectedChunk >= word 2 of the selectedChunk
>I would find a light solution :-)
>
>Le 7 juil. 05 à 10:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>
>> Then cover all the events possible (closefield, enterfield, etc...)
>>
>> Dont forget to "pass" the events...
>>
>> It's the best way. Im now aware of any problems.
>>
>> One other way which i use in a plugin is to send repeated checks
>> with a
>> timed send message.
>>
>> cheers
>> Xavier
>>
>> On 07/07/2005 10:37:51 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Xavier,
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> You are right.
>>> But the problem is that I want to know that in real time to enable/
>>> disable a button :-)
>>>
>>> Le 7 juil. 05 à 10:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>>>
>>>
 Just use the selectedchunk...

 You'll see the difference between one selected char and just an
 insertion
 point
 when word 4 of the selchunk <= than word 2 of the selchunk. If i
 remember
 correctly.

>>>
>>> Best Regards from Paris,
>>>
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Re: SelectionChanged issue

2005-07-07 Thread xbury . cs
Then cover all the events possible (closefield, enterfield, etc...)

Dont forget to "pass" the events...

It's the best way. Im now aware of any problems.

One other way which i use in a plugin is to send repeated checks with a 
timed send message.

cheers
Xavier

On 07/07/2005 10:37:51 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Hi Xavier,
>
>Thank you.
>You are right.
>But the problem is that I want to know that in real time to enable/
>disable a button :-)
>
>Le 7 juil. 05 à 10:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>
>> Just use the selectedchunk...
>>
>> You'll see the difference between one selected char and just an
>> insertion
>> point
>> when word 4 of the selchunk <= than word 2 of the selchunk. If i
>> remember
>> correctly.
>
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Re: SelectionChanged issue

2005-07-07 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Eric

Just use the selectedchunk...

You'll see the difference between one selected char and just an insertion 
point
when word 4 of the selchunk <= than word 2 of the selchunk. If i remember 
correctly.

Hope that answers it... 

On 07/07/2005 10:30:48 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>When you click anywhere in the text of an editable field,
>selectionChanged is not sent by the engine (part of this behaviour is
>bugzilla #1057).
>A combination of selectionChanged and rawKeyUp does not allow to trap
>all events.
>So here is a best way than using a pending message (kind of 75-mm gun
>to shoot a spider as we say in French -:) to know if there is at
>least 1 selected char in a field and not only the insertion point
>blinking?
>
>Best Regards from Paris,
>
>Eric Chatonet.
>
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>
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Re: Setting a Group as a Background

2005-07-06 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Dave,

That's the story... But you can use the "Place" command to place your 
group on different cards if you want.
Should be an easy script...

Look at "place" in the revdocs... That's where i found it...

cheers
Xavier

On 06/07/2005 10:29:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I couldn't get the Group back that I lost last night, so I re-entered
>it all, took until 2 am!  I now have another problem, the Group was a
>"Background" and now that I have re-entered it, I can't it it to
>appear on the other cards in the stack. Do I have to delete and
>recreate all the other cards in the Stack?
>
>Help!
>
>Thanks a lot
>All the Best
>Dave
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RE: Suggestion for correcting the IDE's script editor

2005-07-01 Thread xbury . cs
Jim, Bob,

I agree with you. However remember that you can use anything to edit the 
script...

put the script of the selobj into fld 1 of stack "myeditor"
and 
set the script of the selobj to fld 1 of stack "Myeditor"

Note that the plugin architecture of RunRev permits to trap the 
RevEditScript handler so you can insert your own plugin in there.

so if your stack is a plug in and has the corresponding RevEditScript 
message handler in its' stack script

on RevEditScript 
  put the script of the selobj into fld 1 of stack "myeditor"
end RevEditScript 

then, you're near home free ;-) except for all the good features i'll be 
releasing soon ;)

The debugging however doesn't require tabs so using Rev's SE to do this 
shouldn't be too shocking ;)

As far as i know there isn't a plugin hook to debug. And the RevEditScript 
has to be tested still (last i did, all i managed was to crash Rev but 
this is apparently fixed).

As a PC user, the Rev Script Editor has come a long way to something 
that's more than quite useable and simple to use.

Im sure you'll get used to it (as Mark said) before you know it or get 
used to your own way ;)

cheers
Xavier
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On 01/07/2005 14:27:26 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Bob,
>
>A very reasonable post. As a PC programmer, the Tab key was news to me 
also.
>In the interest of "discussion" here's another idea:
>
>Over the years, I have found that editors (and word processors) are like
>religions. Everyone likes the one they are used to and are willing to go 
to
>war over it.
>
>Maybe the answer is, and I don't even know if this is possible in the Rev
>paradigm, is to give users a choice by allowing them to use 3rd party
>editors. The problem (and fear) here usually is that the debugging
>facilities of the IDE won't integrate with a 3rd party editor.
>
>So, maybe instead of trying to make The Editor a one size fits all (which
>will never happen), publish a standard against which 3rd party 
programmers
>can write alternate editors, which the debugger, and other elements of 
the
>IDE will use in the same fashion that it uses The Editor.
>
>There could be a list of approved editors and a place in Preferences to 
pick
>the one you are using. In the long run, I believe, this would be less
>programming for the Rev folks and more opportunity for the independent
>developer.
>
>Jim
>
>-Original Message-
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>Subject: Suggestion for correcting the IDE's script editor
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Re: what happened to my posts?

2005-06-30 Thread xbury . cs
Well, i was just holding my breath and nothing... ;)

now i can breathe ;)

Thanks Eric!
Xav

On 30/06/2005 08:43:26 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
>Hi Xavier,
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>The same for me so I reposted... and they appeared 24 hours later...
>Be patient ;-)
>Simple new server start problem...
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> I posted 3 or 4 emails since yesterday from my home mail adand none
>> made
>> it in the list?
>>
>> Any clues? TIA
>>
>> cheers
>> Xavier
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what happened to my posts?

2005-06-29 Thread xbury . cs
Hi all,

I posted 3 or 4 emails since yesterday from my home mail adand none made 
it in the list?

Any clues? TIA

cheers
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Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Rev Toolbar "Group" button - How does it work?!

2005-06-27 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Tim,

Look at the selectedobjectchanged message.

You can see what is in the selection via the selectedobjcets or selobjs 
function

cheers
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On 27/06/2005 10:10:03 use-revolution-bounces wrote:
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>I am trying to get the same effect as the Rev team have done with the
>"Group" button on the top toobar.
>
>When you click on an object with the "pointer" tool, the Group button on 
the
>toolbar immediately becomes available. Likewise, when you deselect the
>object, the Group button becomes disabled.
>
>How can I do this in my own stack? I can't work out what message to trap, 
as
>it seems that much fewer messages are sent when the "pointer" tool is
>selected, as compared to the "browse" tool.
>
>
>Many thanks,
>
>
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