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[Stgecft]

Fields have the "Shared tex on each card" property to control letting you 
enter different text in the same field of different cards. How do I get my 
check box buttons to act independently on new pages of the same background.

In order to get them to copy over when "New Card" is sellect, they have been 
grouped and their background behavior is set to true.  Should I be grouping 
these buttons and asking in the script for them to e coped and pasted on the 
new card?  

How about a little help?

Randy Kent
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[Tim Chambers]

Does anyone know what to do after importing the control for a Quicktime 
movie?
I have know idea what to do in the properties box or how to script it.

Would it be easier to do animations in the Animation Manager?
Tried that too, and couldn't make heads or tails of it.
I'm running an iMac with OSX 1.2.3.

Tim Chambers

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[Martin Baxter]

>Yates, Glen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote:
>
>If indeed Rev allocates memory from the system
>heap, then to optimize memory usage on a low memory mac, you should decrease
>the applications memory partition from the "Get Info" window. That will
>leave more memory available for the system heap to grow into.
>
>-Glen Yates
>

That's true enough Glen, however, it is not my idea of a solution. More a
remedy of desperation.
The solution is surely for the application to not do that in the first
place. I can't believe it's really necessary, and it makes your computer
crash.

Anyway I thought of an even better solution - I erased Revolution from the
Quadra - no more problem. Everything happy now. Aaahh.

martin

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[Gustavo Chirinos]

Hi,

I'm just beginning to play with the Starter Kit of Revolution.
Have anybody been able to open a connection with a local MySQL database 
under OS X?

I have a local MySQL databases (installed and open through the Terminal) 
and would like to see how easy would be to create a front-end from 
Revolution.

Thanks in advance,
Gustavo Chirinos

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[Kurt Kaufman]

K.M. wrote:

"...you could also check the "baseconvert" function

It's already built-in ;-)..."

Ouch!  :-)
I should have just started typing "conver..." into the Transcript 
Language Dictionary set to "Filter with".
Well, next time...

-Kurt

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[JohnRule]

Recently, Chipp Walters wrote:

> I need some help. I'd like to execute a command at the
> end of a movestack, but the movestack message is sent
> multiple times while the stack is being dragged
> around. For instance:
> 
> on moveStack
> beep
> end moveStack


on moveStack
  if the mouse is up then beep
end moveStack


This seems to work OK...

JR
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Dear Revolutinaries,
is there anybody coming to Padova (Italy) at webb-it from the 5th of 
July to the 7th of July?
There will be people form Runrev talking about Revolution!
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[Jerry Thomas]

Dear Group, 

I am a newbie to Revolution but not a newbie to multimedia development. 

I need to build a project like TurboTax Deluxe or Taxcut 
Deluxe. This program interviews, then informs by numerous videos, then 
leads people down a decision making trail, then asks for user input, Then calculates, then fills out all the correct forms which the user then prints out. Much like the tax programs I mentioned. 

In fact EXACTLY like the functionality of those programs. 

One of the elements of this is the use of two databases (I haven't selected any databases or database programs yet) 

This is a self contained CD. All the data in the databases will be stored on the CD and the data will be accessed to do calculations within the program. There will be no internet access This is a commercial program. 

What would you recommend to use with Revolution as a database method? 
These databases are only two dimensional. ROWS are Income in graduated steps and COLUMNS are Number of Children. 

All of your suggestions are welcome 


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[Jerry Thomas]

I am a new user of Revolution. I noticed that both Videos and Images are not 
embedded and need to connect with external files. This is easy when I'm 
building, the images and videos are right there on my hard drive. But when I 
build to CD I need relative paths so that the images and videos I burned to 
disc will play in anyones CD drive regardless of the Drive letter.  How do 
you create/insert relative paths in Revolution?


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[Jerry Thomas]

Dear Dr. miscdas,

Unfortunately, your suspicions are incorrect. If there were a straight 
mathematical relationship in the table I would be in high clover. The table 
is graduated with a formula only known to an outfit in Colorado. It comes 
from a computer run with six or seven variables that massage the numbers 
with an unseen hand. As I indicated the data are discrete numbers and have 
no easily discernible math relationship. I have to enter the data in the 
table by hand. The data are used in a simple arithmetic formula to calculate 
the rest of the numbers in my project. The user will see the intersection 
data that has been brought forth by this "lookup" table and it will be 
printed in a form. They will not see the table it came from .  This is a 
database or an array, albeit a very simple one and I need to know how to 
program it in revolution. Thanks for your help though.


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[Jerry Thomas]

I am a new user of Revolution. I noticed that both Videos and Images are not 
embedded and need to connect with external files. This is easy when I'm 
building, the images and videos are right there on my hard drive. But when I 
build to CD I need relative paths so that the images and videos I burned to 
disc will play in anyones CD drive regardless of the Drive letter.  How do 
you create/insert relative paths in Revolution?

I am resending this for publication in full on the list. I was advised by a 
kind gentleman on the users mail list that Import as Control would work.  
Well, Yes and No.  I was able to import as control images, text and snapshot 
but not video or audio files.  Is there a secret to this? Video files work 
great from the toolbar.  Then there is the question of whether you would 
want embedded video files sized 387mb as anything but external files. I am 
running Rev version 1.1.1 on a PC running Windows 98SE.

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[Jerry Thomas]

Dear Folks,

Are additional pattern backgrounds avaiable for Revolution? There are 
backgrounds available in the color pallete but they are from the days when 
16/256 color was all that was available. I'm looking for something kinder 
and gentler -- Clouds, a pale off white soft texture, something easier on 
the eyes and brain.
Any suggestions, And if I can get something else, how do I get it into 
Revolution.  I have some great tiled bitmaps that work well in other 
programs.

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[Gareth Jones]

Hello, people

I have an Address stack that I use daily. Too often, however, I click 
on it with the arrow cursor instead of the "hand" cursor. I would 
like to add a command to the OpenStack handler that would set the 
cursor to "hand." Unfortunately, this doesn't do the trick:

on openStack
  set the cursor to "hand"
end openStack

Any suggestions?

-Gareth
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[Alex Rice]

Does anyone see something wrong with this code- why it would work for 
some variables, but not others?

--
-- endSession
-- delete global variables associated with this session
--
on endSession
  put the namespace of this stack into tPrefix
  if tPrefix = empty then
exit endSession
  end if
  set the itemDelimiter to comma
  repeat for each item tGlobal in the globalNames
if matchText(tGlobal, "^" & tPrefix) then
  put "delete global" && tGlobal into tScript
  do tScript
end if
  end repeat
end endSession
Sometimes, not always, I get this exception. It is always the case that 
I can do the same command from the message window without an exception.

 • There was an Execution Error at 11:36:47 AM
Error description:  do: error in source expression
Object: stack "libSessionMgmt" of stack "/.../...rev"

do tScript

Value: delete global vf__dateModified
Alex Rice, Software Developer
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[Emmanuel Companys]

Just moved my stacks from 1.1.1 to 2.0 under macOS 10.2.6. The problems 
I encounterd seem to much to be due to RR bugs.
That why I'd would like to know whether some other user have had them 
too... and any suggestion to bring things back to normal!

A. Impossible to save one of the stacks (see below)

B. A weird button behavior: (see my other post)

---
When  trying to save one of the stacks I moved from 1.1.1 I get the 
alert:
Cant' save the stack Litteris due to an error:
can't open stack backup file
Check the file path, and that the file name is not too long.

This stack is the only one using combo box buttons, whose height is 
shrinked in 2.0 (see my previous post).
If I open it under 1.1.1, everything goes back to normal!

I tried to copy the stack into the R-R folder, with no success.

Where is this 'backup file' located? What to do to move to stack to 2.0?

Manuel

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[Michaeldb B]

Sims wrote..

> could you convert them?
> would using .25 work for you?.

I guess so..but, at this stage, I can't tell!.

M.D.B.
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[menno]

Hi all,
I found a problem (a bug?) in RunRev 2.0r2-Distribution Builder:
once called from the file menu the Distribution Builder window hides almost completely 
the buttons on its bottom (they are 
barely visible by their upper line).

I verified this behaviour in the following systems:
Apple Powerbook g4 12" 867Mhz with MacOSX 10.2.6 (quicktime updated to 6.2);
Apple Powermac g4 "sawtooth" 450Mhz with MacOSX 10.2.5 (quicktime 6.0);
Apple Powermac g4 "sawtooth" 450Mhz with MacOSX Server 10.2.3 (quicktime 6.0).


What's the probkem?

TIA


Piero Menno
Italy




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[Martin Baxter]

>John Tenny wrote :
>Is there a chart comparing the commands syntax between HC and Rev?

You might find it worth having a look at metacard's documentation for this.
Last time I looked (about a year ago) it had a list showing HC and SC
commands that are unsupported or partially supported in transcript.

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[Martin Baxter]

Joe,

I believe this is a known bug in v2 - see below:

martin baxter

>Gardner, Joseph A wrote
>When I click on the "Import File..." button nothing happens

>At 6:05PM -0700 6/5/03, Edwin Gore wrote:
>>I have worked with images before, but only as controls, and setting the
>>image of the control to a file.
>>
>>Today, I decided to fool around with windowShape for somethign I am
>>working for. I selected the "Image Library" menu item, selected my stack
>>in the pull down on the library window, but nothing happens when I click
>>on import.
>>
>>What am I doing wrong?
>
>Nothing - you seem to have found a bug (which I've bug reported).
>
>As a workaround for now, you can use the File menu > Import as Control >
>Image File to import the file, instead of doing it in the Image Library
>window.
>
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[Yves COPPE]

Hello,

Working on Mac OSX 10.2.6 FR and Rev 2.0.1

I have a problem I didn't know with Rev 1.1.1

the command : "create folder"

1) works fine when I create a folder
BUT
2) doesn't work if the new created folder has a diacritical char
for example :

create folder "../test" works fine

create folder "../répétition" doesn't work  (if I write  "repetition" 
(without the "é") it's good)

what to do ?

Greetings.
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[rtamesis]

I want to create a gradient background for my stack without having to import an image 
for that purpose. Can anyone tell me how to accomplish this? Thanks!

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[rtamesis]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:28:36 -0400
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I don't know if this is a bug or not. I'm using Revolution 2.0.2 under OS 
X. The background fill of the stack is set at white. I then imported a 
colored image as a background into my stack. When I then add a 
pushbutton, the white background fill of the stack shows up around the 
button if I set the button as a Default button rather than the 
background image. How do I prevent the 
stack's background fill from covering my background image in this case?

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[Dan Shafer]

James Lewes asked:

CGI tutorial for denser than dummy
Have you read my CGI chapter from Volume 3 of my forthcoming book 
series on Revolution?

http://www.eclecticity.com/danshafer/chapter21.rtf

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[Nitin]

Hi All
 
I am loading controls on  window at run time. Now if I want to change the control order of the controls run-time. Is there any solution
Any Help would be appreciated
 
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I am trying to make a popup button but I can't seem to get the scripts for
the individual 
menu items in place. I assumed that once the button is made and the items
are listed, 
I would be able to access the items individually with the message box:

select menuItem X of button "Y"

and then open the script editor, but I don't get the script editors for the
menu items, just 
a single one for the whole button.  How can I select an individual menu
item and open 
its scrip editor?

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[Stephen Messimer]

Hi All,

This is just to let you know that the Public Beta of PreceptorTools has 
been release and is available for download. :-)
=
For Immediate Release

PreceptorTools Public Beta Released
The New Way to Develop Courseware - In Minutes!
Edinburgh, Scotland, 25th September, 2003

Messimer Computing, Inc. and Runtime Revolution Ltd. today jointly 
announced the release of the PreceptorTools public beta. With the 
PreceptorTools courseware builder, teachers, trainers and students can 
develop training modules, instructional aids, and presentations for 
every major platform in minutes, without any programming! Beginners can 
get started right away, while experienced Revolution developers can use 
Revolution's rich feature set to customize PreceptorTools for their own 
needs.

Steve Messimer, President of Messimer Computing, said, "With its 
easy-to use ready-made lessons, PreceptorTools is perfect for busy 
teachers. The prebuilt navigation aids, quizzes, and exams let teachers 
focus on delivering educational solutions, without worrying about how 
to code them." Messimer added, "I chose Revolution because of its 
unrivaled ease of use and power. PreceptorTools taps that power for 
teachers and courseware developers to use."

Kevin Miller, CEO of Runtime Revolution, said, "We're delighted 
Messimer Computing chose Revolution to develop PreceptorTools. In 
combination with Revolution's user-centric approach to development, 
PreceptorTools makes it even easier for courseware developers to create 
great computer-based training solutions."

To download the public beta version of PreceptorTools, visit 
. This public beta can be used 
for 30 days. PreceptorTools 1.0 will ship in fourth quarter 2003, and 
will be distributed in the Runtime Revolution online store.

About Runtime Revolution
Founded in 1997, Runtime Revolution focuses on bringing user-centric 
development tools to all major platforms. The company produces 
Revolution, Revolution Express, and Ten Thumbs Typing Tutor. Runtime 
Revolution, which recently completed its acquisition of MetaCard Corp., 
is based in Edinburgh, Scotland. For more information, please visit the 
company on the web at .

About Messimer Computing
Messimer Computing, Inc. is an applications development firm located in 
Escanaba, Michigan. It has provided systems information services, 
custom database design, and application development services to 
companies and individuals throughout the Midwest since 1986.

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I am currently working to update my website with reference material 
regarding PreceptorTools.  It will probably take another week or two to 
finish that up as there is a lot to say. Please take a moment and stop 
by the site.

http://www.messimercomputing.com

By the way, I would like to thank the members of this list for all the 
help and encouragement they have offered over the last year. You are 
all great!

Kind regards.

Steve

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[Pierre]

Hello,

I'm trying to call a function which is defined in a card, from another card of the 
same stack. I've been tryinng with the "get" and "call" keyword but each time, 
revolution tells me "can't find handler".
Does anyone can give me the right syntax to call a function ?
Do I need to define this function as a "global function" (if it is possible ...) ?

Thanks a lot

Pierre

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[Wolfgang M . Bereuter]

Hi list,
there is a very good bookmark-manger for the Mac: Url Manager. But, I 
and some collegues from another list dont know nothing like that for 
Win and Linux... Does here anybody know a crossplatform Bookmark-manger 
(idea: to have it on a USB stick and use it on 3 systems import and 
export hassfree from one OIS to another) If this does really not exist, 
wouldnt that be an idea for a rev Shareware tool...?

regards
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[Graham Samuel]

On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:41:53 -0800 (PST), Judy Perry 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 19:48 -0500 1/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The MacAddict review noted that Rev seems to crash unexpectedly, but I've
honestly not had that problem since the OSX appearance manager thingy got
fixed...  It crashes ALOT in the class lab, but the machines in there only
have 128 MB RAM.
For me Rev 2.1 crashes a good deal, on Mac OSs O9.2.2 and 10.2.8 and 
on Windows XP. Not a RAM issue, I think (the Windows machine has 
256Mb and the Mac 448mb). It's usually something to do with quitting 
Rev when the thing I'm working on has its own 'quit' script, or when 
I try to purge out the thing I've been working on (Save, then Close 
and Remove from Memory) and then try to start working on another 
stack file. The Distribution Builder sometimes suffers in the same 
way (try to close it then go on to something else). This is all 
slightly hard to pin down - doesn't happen with obvious consistency, 
so I have never been quite sure enough of any of the sequences to 
produce exact formulae for bugzilla.

Graham

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[Stephen Messimer]

Hi all,

This is to let you know that  version 1.0 of PreceptorTools courseware 
development system was released today. Free 30 day downloads are 
available both on the Run Rev web site and on my website as well. 
PreceptorTools may be purchased online at the Runtime Revolution online 
store beginning today!

I would like to take the opportunity to thank everyone at Runtime 
Revolution for their support and encouragement the last year and a 
half. I would also like to thank my Beta testers for their hard work 
and commitment.  Finally, I want to thank the members of this list who 
helped me understand the subtleties and power of Revolution.

The current version is optimized for Mac OS Classic (9.2 preferred ) 
and Mac OSX (10.2.6 or > preferred) Revolution 2.0 or greater is 
required if you wish to use PreceptorTools automated email features.  
Finally Quicktime 5.0 or greater is required if you wish to use the 
buttonPlayer objects or the movieQuiz objects that are part of the 
PreceptorTools Object Toolkits.

I plan to offer a Windows distribution early this coming year.  If 
anyone here would like to be a Windows Beta tester please contact me 
off list.  Preceptor is a set of stacks and a plug in so it should work 
OK within the windows environment.  Some users have found the Beta 
stable others have had lots of problems.  So if you download it you are 
on your own for the meantime. I will not be addressing any windows 
related questions until the formal testing regime begins after the new 
year.

If you have any questions comments or problems with PreceptorTools 
please feel free to join the use-preceptorTools list.  Initially, this 
will be the location where I will handle preceptorTools support.  To 
sign up go here: http://www.runrev.com/preceptortools/moreinfo.html.  
There is also a comprehensive web-based reference for PreceptorTools on 
my website. While this is still in the development process it does 
contain the definitive reference to the application.  If you can't find 
the answer to a question regarding PreceptorTools don't hesitate to 
contact me. I am currently the only person working on the development 
of this project so I may not be able to get back to your personal email 
right away.  I will do my best to answer within a day or so.

Best regards to you all and thanks again for your help.

Steve

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[JohnRule]

<< I think doubleclicking a stack should start up the Rev UI as well. When
<< someone wants to test, he/she can use the Suspend UI command.

<< Terry


I would have second this motion...a double-clicked stack is unusable (too 
many 'things' missing).

JR
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[Glenn E. Fisher]

doug,
executing at 1:24:38 PM
TypeHandler: can't find handler
Object  Button
LinerevMacFromUnixPath(it,convertOSX)
HintrevMacFromUnixPath
Thinking that I am not sending the file path correctly, I am trying 
this Rev function. So Rev can't find a built in function ? huh? What's 
up?

 There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in.
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If revMacFromUnixPath is a function, shouldn't you call it like a 
function
instead of like a command? Like:
get revMacFromUnixPath(it,convertOSX)

Read Jacque's page again. :-)
http://www.hyperactivesw.com/functions.html
HTH,
Glenn
Glenn E. Fisher University of Houston - Retired
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[Ben Fisher]

Thanks,

-Ben

> Yup. See the "files" function in the dictionary,
> particularly "the 
> detailed files" option. That gives this info.

and the "convert" function that is able
to show the seconds of the creation
and modification time in a specific date:
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[Ben Fisher]

>What is the perpendicular distance between a point and a line?

>Application for which there is no redeeming social value:


Thanks for sharing that code, James. I'm taking calculus right now and that 
type of thing might come in handy. Also thanks for not using "repeat until the 
mouse is up." I always make that mistake because of hypercard habits.

-Ben
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[Ben Fisher]

> 
> hi i want a premade website for free

Cory, here's a site with webpage templates for free.

http://freesitetemplates.com/templates/browse/frames/
http://www.free-webhosts.com/free-website-templates.php

Then you could upload that onto a free web hosting service, which will put your 
site online for free. Sometimes these hosts will have ads, but the best don't 
have any. Search for them here at http://www.free-webhosts.com/

http://www.000k.com/refer.php?id=benjam0 - best ever! go there now if you want 
free hosting!
This service is really good - you get 125 Mb of space and no ads
It's a little complicated to set up, just click "Order Service"

-Ben
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[Ben Fisher]

Jim, have you tried rounding the number? I know it shouldn't make a 
difference but maybe it's a problem with using floating points.

Jim
on mouseUP
 >  set the loc of grc "ball" to 100, 100
 >  put .1 into dx
  > put .1 into dy
   >put the loc of grc "ball" into tBallLoc
   >repeat 5000
  >   add dx to item 1 of tBallLoc
   >  add dy to item 2 of tBallLoc
   --   set the loc of grc "ball" to round(item 1 of 
tBallLoc), round(item 2 of tBallLoc)
  >   --wait 1 millisec
 >  end repeat
 >  set the loc of grc "ball" to 100,100
end mouseUP
-Ben
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[graham samuel]

Bob Hartley wrote:
At 17:56 24/02/2005, you wrote:
Some of us can't make it in june to Monterey ;(
But maybe some might like to meet somewhere in
the old continent for a drive-in and Bring your
own Rev WIFI, cheese and wine (or beer)
LAN Party?
Where and when are the 2005 Rev gatherings here
in Europe? Anyone know?

How about one in Edinburgh Close to RunRev HQ. OK I'm Bias, it is
also 40 mins on the train from my house, however, I can adise on
accomodation. :-)
Ah, Edinburgh! Haven't been there for a long time... I have a memory of 
Princes Street which I wager nobody else on this list has! If anyone is 
serious, put me down as 'interested'.  Accommodation can't be that  
hard to find in such a centre.

Graham

Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France
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[Alan Gayne]

Dear Ken & Dick,
In fact, both versions work just fine, IF the intial "startRolling" 
command is sent to my text field from an outside message source, such 
as the a button or the message box.

"send "startRolling" to fld "topic text""
But the need to use a button to get things started, kind of defeats the 
intuitive nature of the original concept.  After all, if you need a 
button to start, why involve the field at all?  You could just use the 
button to start, stop and resume the scrolling.

So, is there any way to the initiator into the field script AND to get 
the scrolling to stop and resume with alternate clicks?

Thanks in advance,
Alan Gayne
Subject: Re: "Rolling Credits" - Stop them and start them again
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="US-ASCII"
On 3/5/05 3:51 PM, "Alan Gayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
first click - nothing.  second click, text scrolls about 1 pixel, then
nothing.
The first click would have no effect because variable "sPaused" hasn't 
been
initialized as "false."

The text would not scroll further because handler "rollCredits" never 
sends
"rollCredits," because variable "maxscroll" hasn't been initialized, 
because
nothing executed "startRolling."

On 3/5/05 12:20 PM, "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
on CancelPending pWhat
  if pWhat = "" then put "all" into pWhat
  switch pWhat
  case "all"
repeat with x = (the number of lines of the pendingmessages) down 
to 1
  cancel (item 1 of line x of the pendingMessages)
end repeat
break
  default
repeat with x = (the number of lines of the pendingmessages) down 
to 1
  if line x of the pendingMessages contains ("," & pWhat & ",") 
then
cancel (item 1 of line x of the pendingMessages)
  end if
end repeat
break
  end switch
end CancelPending
There's a way to do that a little simpler and faster.  It's simpler 
because
it has no switch. It's faster because it invokes "filter" instead of 
testing
each line within a loop.

on cancelPendingMessages pMessageName
  -- note: empty implies cancel all pending messages
  put the pendingMessages into tPendingMessages
  if pMessageName is not empty then
filter tPendingMessages with "*," & pMessageName & ",*"
  end if
  repeat for each line tPendingPessage in tPendingMessages
cancel item 1 of tPendingPessage
  end repeat
end cancelPendingMessages
I hope this helps, without offending Ken.
-- Dick
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[Lars Brehmer]

Hi all!
I just downloaded the 2.5.1 trial (MacOS X, panther) and have a 
question.

I did this when 2.5 came out, and while I like it better than 2.2 in 
most ways, back then I could never successfully download the standalone 
engine for the older Mac OS.  This was one of the reasons I let the 
trial just expire with no purchase.  I assumed this would be fixed in 
2.5.1, so I tried it and guess what?  When I try to build a standalone 
for Mac OS I get the same result - it won't download the Standalone 
engine.  For Windows no problem, now and back with the 2.5 trial.  Is 
there something ridiculous that i am missing here?  Or is there a way 
to download it outside of RunRev and just place it in the components 
folder?  This is getting frustrating, because I really need it, and 
2.5. does a much better, easier job with Windows icons, and I had hoped 
the same with Mac OS!

Anyone know a cure for this hiccup?
Cheers,
Lars Brehmer
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[Melitón Cardona Torres]

I have this in a field:
IPAE 16
IPAE 1
IPAE 7
LAG 1
JKAL 3
JKAL 11
JKAL 2
and I wish to get this (same alphabetical order, sorted numeric by 
second word of each):

IPAE 1
IPAE 7
IPAE 16
LAG 1
JKAL 2
JKAL 3
JKAL 11
I would be grateful for your suggestions.
Thanks in advance
Ton Cardona
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[graham samuel]

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:16:10 -0600, Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

On 3/31/05 1:05 PM, "graham samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm developing some simple printing routines using RR 2.5.1 and OSX
10.3.8. I have a little Epson inkjet printer that works very happily
with all my purchased apps such as word processors, graphic programs
etc. But with Rev I'm having a bad time.
1. I arranged for the initialisation routine in my app to read the
paper size and the margins and to make my stack the same size as the
printPaperSize and my print area the same size as the page minus the
margins. I then attempted to construct something to print. The card to
be printed looks perfectly OK, but the printer doubles the left margin
from the absurdly large 72 points (more later) to a completely daft 
144
points - at least it looks that way. This shows up even on the OSX
preview, and even when I propose to print on a different printer, 
which
makes me think it must be me, except for the screen appearance and
dimensions of the card to be printed, which look OK. For example, the
left hand edge of the field to be printed is definitely 72 pixels from
the edge of the card, and the card is definitely 594 pixels wide, 
which
corresponds to the width of an A4 page. I just can't guess what I'm
doing wrong.
Check out the printMargins property (among other "print-" properties).
Perhaps if you set the printMargins to 0,0,0,0 you'd get closer to what
you're looking for? The default is 72,72,72,72 (1 inch on all sides).
Well, I did that - I was already using the printMargins settings (72 
all round) to calculate where on the card to put the field that 
contains the print content, but at your suggestion at the last minute, 
just before the actual print statement, I set them to all 0s without 
going back and altering the position of the field. The result was (to 
me) extremely strange: the printing worked properly, in that each 
margin was now 1 inch (72 pixels). This also included the top and 
bottom margins. In reality my particular printer won't print on the 
whole paper surface, so margins of zero are meaningless. Thus I'm at a 
loss to understand why it worked. Eventually I'll try it on the PC and 
see if the thing behaves differently.

Thanks very much for the advice - I just wish I understood why it 
worked. It seems to me pretty much like a bug in RR.

Graham

Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France
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[hershbp]

I'm wondering why 2.2 is crashing on almost like 1.1 ?
One example if I delete a very big group of buttons  or a group of 
buttons that is one on-top of another.
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[Mathewson]

dear xtalk afficionados,

2 related problems:


Imagine 2 RR stacks called ?A? and ?B? respectively.

There is a button on stack ?A? that contains the following
command:

on mouseDown
  send "menuPick Import As Control|Image File..." to button
"File" of stack "revMenubar"
set the name of img 1 to "XX"
   copy img "XX" to card 1 of stack ?B?
delete img "XX"
end mouseDown

What this command is meant to do is to allow the user to
import an image into stack ?B? by clicking on the button on
stack ?A?..

1.  It works in Mac OS X  but does not seem to in
 Windows 98

2.  Any idea of a ?quick and dirty? way to do this without
sending a menuPick command (i.e. so the stack will function
equally well under Metacard as under RR)..?

Richard Gaskin has been extremely kind in pointing me to
his Handy Handlers at the revJournal site...but I am a bit
of a lazy slob and am sure there is a quicker and simpler
way round this problem.

would be extremely grateful

richmond mathewson
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[Ton Cardona]

I would like to compare the modification date of a binary file on an 
ftp server with that of a corresponding binary file in a folder on the 
hard disk.

The purpose is to download files of the ftp server ony when their 
modification date date is older than those of the files in the hard 
disk

I guess there must be a way of doing it, but I am unable to find out 
how.

Thanks in advance,
Ton Cardona
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[Hershel Fisch]

Le 1 sept. 04, à 01:33, Hershel Fisch a écrit :
>> >>>  2) If this is the case then why is the err , invalid 
database type.
>>> >>> To see if postgres is running normally lauch the activity 
monitor
>>> app and search the postgres thread. To see if the "postgres" user is
>>> rightly set, test "su - postgres" at the shell prompt and, then if
>>> you are prompted for the password, type "postgres". If something
>>> goes wrong, postgres need to be reinstalled (prefer the Marc
>>> Liyanage's installer --
>>> ).
>> Sorry , don't know what and where the activity monitor is.
>> The su - postgres is ok. >> And I did use entropy's installation.
>>[Hershel-Fischs-Computer:~] hershel% su - postgres >Password:
>[Hershel-Fischs-Computer:~] postgres% /usr/local/bin/pg_ctl stop -D
>/usr/local/pgsql/data/ >waiting for postmaster to shut down..done
>postmaster successfully shut down
>[Hershel-Fischs-Computer:~] postgres% /usr/local/bin/postmaster -D
>/usr/local/pgsql/data -i >LOG:  database system was shut down at 
2004-08-31 19:11:05 EDT >LOG:  checkpoint record is at 0/C1E4D0 >LOG:  
redo record is at 0/C1E4D0; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown TRUE >LOG:  
next transaction id: 6911; next oid: 19457
>LOG:  database system is ready.
OK, the database is cleanly loading and running. If you can't access it
from the Rev application, it can have to do with, at least :

- PHP not proeperly installed and configured in "httpd.conf"
I don't use PHP.
- the tcp/ip sockets support is not actived in the "hba.conf" file of 
the postgres server
Once I messed around with the "hba.conf" file and that was it don't 
even ask .. I had to reinstall PostgreSQL
I'v started the database with the -i flag as you could see above. Also 
it runs beautiful with RR 2.2.1, MacSQL and sqlboss.

Let me know the end ;)
Believe me I'd love to , but so far I can't use 2.5 because of this 
problem.
Any help is greatly appreciated. Hershel Fisch

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[Yves COPPE]

Hi Ken,
...
This was from a tip on my site:
on extract_ID3v1 someData, @songTitle, @artist, @album, @aYear, 
@comments,
 @genre
  put char -128 to -1 of someData into last_128Bytes
  if char 1 to 3 of last_128Bytes is "TAG" then
get binaryDecode("a3a30a30a30a4a30c", last_128Bytes, tabBit, 
songTitle,
artist, album, aYear, comments, genre)
return true
  else
return false
  end if
end extract_ID3v1

...
I don't understand how your script runs :
I have a script ::
on mouseUp
  answer file "Choose your mp3 file"
  if it is empty then exit to top
  put url("binfile:"&it) into tData
  extract_ID3v1 tData,songTitle,artist,album,aYear,comments,genre
end mouseUp
but I get nothing ...
can you help me ??
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[Christoph Wollek]

Halo,
is there a possibility to use Metacard or RR on BeOS?
Thanks in advance
Christoph Wollek
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[Jean-Pierre Soto]

Hello,

I have made a virtual keyboard where the user can move each key when  
holding controlKey.
All is Ok, but I need to change geometry of each key to follow the  
bottom of the stack.

(I want to open the keyboard on the bottom of my main stack)

The user can still move each key but when I resize the keyboard  
stack , the key return to there previous vLocation.


Can anybody help me with that ?

Thanks,
Jean-Pierre


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[Bob Sneidar]

UPDATE: 

Well I discovered what my problem was. I commented out the method I employed 
which used sqlYoga for all the queries, and wrote a new method using only RevDB 
API calls. The sqlYoga method took about 1 to 1.5 seconds per iteration, so for 
100 single record queries, let's say roughly 2 minutes. The RevDB method took 
less than 10 seconds for 100 queries. 

I guess what I am saying is that if you need to do lots of small queries like I 
am doing, and you don't mind learning a little SQL, the RevDB commands and 
functions are going to be a TON more efficient. But if you are doing a few 
queries here and there, the performance hit would be minimal, and sqlYoga can 
save you enormous amounts of trouble learning SQL and get you going much 
quicker. 

Bob


On May 21, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

> Hi all. 
> 
> Anyone have any idea how fast the queries to the On-Rev SQL databases are on 
> average? I was using a method where I was looking up a key from one query of 
> 100 records at a time and querying a mySql database at my On-Rev site ONE 
> RECORD AT A TIME! I discovered that the queries were taking about a second, 
> which now that I think about it, is about right, with internet lag and all. 
> 
> So now I have to think about using joins. My problem now becomes, I am 
> looking up values from a table in one database, in a table  tables residing 
> in another database. Can I even create a join like that? Don't the tables 
> have to reside in the same database to do a join like that? 
> 
> Barring that, I suppose I can compile a list of key values, and do a single 
> query for records with key values in that string, then loop through and add 
> the records that don't exist, but how to do that with a single query! Sheesh! 
> If I were using Foxpro this would be child's play. 
> 
> I'm wondering if the Relational aspect of Trevor's sqlYoga would be able to 
> do this, but again, I think I have to be working with two tables in the same 
> database for that to work. Trevor?
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
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[Jerry Daniels]

Hugh,

For all intents and purposes, you are on the money. 

Couple answers to your question marks below...

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Rodeo now in beta:
http://rodeoapps.com/limited-pre-release-offer

On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:28 AM, FlexibleLearning  
wrote:

> THANK YOU for taking the time to write such a comprehensive answer and for
> being gentle with me. I hope others will have found your further
> explanations helpful also. As a struggling 50-something rev developer who
> wants to stay in the game, you are describing me completely.

You're welcome. Your questions forced me to the heart of the issue.

> What you have done sounds nothing short of quantum (if not the decimation of
> Rev itself). My needs are purely practical; I leave 'lifestyle' to those
> that can afford it. The process therefore as I have to understand things
> is...
> 
> 1. Write Rev stack. Limit functionalities to (limitations list?).

No groups (unless datagrid) yet.
No graphics, yet.
Transfer just notes that these are not transferred. No errors.

> 2. Use the Rodeo transfer utility on a Mac to compile the stack as
> 'Rodeo-Talk' to your account on the Rodeo server.
> 3. Use a Mac to edit the work now in 'Rodeo-Talk' using the Rodeo Editor,
> hosted on Rodeo's server.

Or user can also log into their Rodeo dev space and edit their definitions 
using any webkit compliant browser, tho the desktop Rodeo editor might be 
better for many at this time.

> 4. Save and Test the webApp (how?). Re-visit the Rodeo Editor to
> de-bug/improve.

Sarah and I have used a client side load tester to help with un-covering bugs. 
We are still working on our debugger. It will be like tRev's decoder.

> 5. Copy the webApp to your site.

Will be easier than that...click deploy button and choose/create a target(s).

> 6. Tell people the url so they can view it in a webkit-compatible browser
> such as Chrome or Safari.

Or create a Mac client app which is a customized browser for the Mac users you 
might have.

> Requirements: (for developer)
> 1. A Mac with a webkit-compatible browser

Mac with Leopard or Snow Leopard has this by default. We do have users who 
develop on non-Mac in a webkit browser like Chrome or Safari, but Mac desktop 
is easier to work in at this time.,

> 2. An account with the Rodeo server at $189/year

$149 until we release in August, then $249. Right now there is much work for us 
to do in order for us to create client/customer-pleasing apps. Check out our 
time-line in the post linked above in my signature.

> At some stage it would be helpful to see some video examplars that show the
> functionalities available. I have a set of 20 interactive careers lessons
> written in rev that the client wants delivered in a browser. Rodeo sounds
> the way to do this, with the additional benefit that the lessons could also
> be viewed on an iPad (and utimately on an iPhone also).
> 
> PLEASE tell me I got it now!

Oh, yeah. You got it.

> Hugh,
> 
> You're not being thick. Rodeo is not for everyone on earth and not for
> everyone on the list. Obviously. However, it is very important to a HUGE
> number of us. You could easily be one of those people for whom it satisfies
> no need. The AHA is in the eye (or heart) of the beholder. Not everyone here
> or there are going to have it.
> 
> Addressing some specifics you mentioned:
> 
> - Webkit is an engine for many web browsers, especially the mobile ones. I
> think FireFox and IE will use webkit eventually. Maybe sooner than we think.
> In any case, it's simple to develop and app and tell your customers to get a
> webkit browser (Chrome or Safari on any platform are excellent).
> 
> - Many apps use webkit to render their screens...not just web browsers.
> That's what iTunes was and is. There are many more out there doing the same
> thing. Their value in the marketplace is much more than a web page in a
> browser.
> 
> - The above are technical and business reasons for choosing webkit as our
> prime target for Rodeo's deliverables.
> 
> - There are many, many people who will simply not download a web plugin.
> Ever. Steve Jobs (rightly or wrongly) has placed nails in the coffins of
> more plugins than just Flash.
> 
> - Sarah, MJ and i think the desktop wars are fading as an issue as more
> developers on all platforms simply use webkit in a browser or a shell app to
> do their bidding. This allows them to compete with cheaper labor markets.
> There is, however a steep learning curve for many to do this. Rodeo
> definitions are an antidote to this problem.
> 
> - We chose an Xcode Desktop Mac app as our shell app to house our editor and
> as a shell app to house other folks' web pages who develop in Rodeo because
> of its superior webviews.
> 
> - The next step for Rodeo is to make a shell app for iOS devices (in Xcode)
> that does the same as our Mac desktop shell app. iPad is a magic word for
> getting work, good prices paid for work, and availability of work. LIke it
> or not, iPad sales are astounding. 

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[Richmond Mathewson]

Colin Holgate wrote:

"I think the term is Guerilla Marketing. Gorilla Marketing would be  
things like "Get your King Kongs Here!"."

Awfully sorry to disabuse you; I am well aware of the difference between 
Guerillas and Gorillas, and my message was sent by way of monkeying round!

Kisses, Richmond.


A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle.


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[Peter Baral]

Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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[Richmond Mathewson]

Mark Schonewille wrote:

"I think  
there are more people on this list who have already invented their own  
systems to save preferecnes, make installers, get the versioning right  
etc.

I don't expect RunRev Ltd to create a general-purpose solution for  
each of the issues in your list, because everybody will need something  
slightly different. We will probably all end up creating our own  
systems anyway."

Now what I am going to write will be, I hope, contentious and stimulate
a lot of CONSTRUCTIVE comment:

I don't like being spoon-fed, and have spent my life in Education
trying to wean both kids and adult learners off a dependency on
spoon-feeding. I believe that when we were made/born we came with
reasonably efficient brains - and those brains are to be used.

What I like about Runtime Revolution consists of both its capabilities
and what it does not offer prepackaged; or, let me draw a parallel with
English (a language, as a Scot, I have made my living from for many years);
RR supplies the grammar, the syntax and the vocabulary; but, thank God, 
it does not supply the sentences; that is to say, it allows us an awful
lot of freedom. This has been demonstrated time and time again on this 
Use-List, where many people have come up with many solutions to a single
problem - this is fantastic. I, for one, have never had an urge to live
in a totalitarian state (especially as I live and work in a country that used 
to be a totalitarian state, and is still, 20 years later, suffering, 
considerably, from the psychological aftermath), in fact one of the reasons
I like life in Bulgaria rather than Scotland is that society is not becoming 
increasingly rule-bound. Nobody can accuse Runtime Revolution of being
rule-bound! And, ultimately it is psychologically healthier for us to
retrace parts of inventing the wheel (hence the collection of slide-rules down 
in my school, which I force on my pupils for 1 day a year).

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.



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[Richmond Mathewson]

viktoras didziulis wrote:

"I should agree with Dave's point. Especially in countries, where English 
is not native language like Lithuania and Bulgaria ;-) "

he is exactly right.

The only 2 things that can be said in RR's favour 
(as opposed to PASCAL and Co.) are:

1. the programming language can (but doesn't always!) resemble a 
real, spoken language.

2. objects 'walk around with their own code' (c.f. Visual Basic 5).

I teach an intro to RunRev (3 x 90 minutes) as part of a
"Summer of Fun" English course (sorry about the awful title,
but what else do you call that sort of course?)for kids who 
already have a fair bit of English. Without a modicum of English 
the kids would be lost.

As a experiment, I got BBC BASIC running inside some
BBC Micro emulators

[ http://www.stairwaytohell.com/index2.html ]

and got some kids going with that. Their only, initial
objection, was that they had become dependent on a GUI
and felt "funny" with a command line: after a few gruff
"Grow Ups" they got on with things. Now they preferred RR,
but only from the point of view that they could make
visual programs; they didn't really see the programming
language as particularly easier.

Of course if one wants one can go all the way to those
"programming languages" where all one does is drag building
blocks around a screen. However, my experience teaches me that while
kids can rapidly get a blood-rush to the brain by getting
working 'programlets', they learn little or no transferable
skills; take them from that and shove them in front of a machine
with RR, or BASIC, and they are stuck fast, back at ground zero.

What has to be admitted by the "I want it now, and preferably
with no effort at all" brigade is that everything comes at a price:
and I, for one, don't want to spend my old age in a world inhabited
by people who can't or won't make a mental effort for anything.

All the members of this Use-List have dragged themselves through the
learning curve of at least one programming language (err, what do you 
call it again; RevTalk, Revolution, Transcript, and so on); and, like it
or not, that is a necessary part of the process of understanding how
programming languages work. And, without that sort of understanding,
however "user-friendly" a language/RAD is, sooner or later one is
going to come up against a socking great mental wall.

I usually spend the first 60 minutes with the computers turned OFF,
and play around with lots of yoghurt pots and beans 
(the Container Metaphor); and talk a lot of rubbish about production
lines in factories. Plus, prior to that, throw slide-rules at the kids so
that Mathematics moves out of the computers and calculators into
their brains.

I am sick to death of people who go on
a course and then inform me they can program computers because they
can read their e-mail, type a letter in Word, and run up a spread-sheet
in Excel.

Frankly, 'programming' by dragging virtual LEGO blocks around is not
programming; unless, of course, you consider the ability to knock up
a power point presentation the peak of programming skills!

As every Bulgarian child, supposedly, is taught English at school (and
the 'supposedly' is how I make my money), there should not be a
particularly high barrier for teenagers to jump over with RR.

The barrier, in Bulgaria, comes from the fact that educational-method 
is still rooted in the 'swot-and-regurgitate' school of thought that
Britain abandoned in the 60s. This stifles the type of abstract
and creative thought that is needed for good programming (try and
make a concrete model of a for-next loop).

However, in Bulgaria there is hope, as education can move into the space
that in Britain (amongst other places points-west) was abandoned for
the effortless pap that now passes for education.

Sorry about the rant; but I do feel extremely strongly about the
above points.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.


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[Richmond Mathewson]

Wilhelm Sanke wrote:

"the specific "volatile" nature of PNG-images just having been created in 
Revolution"

Maybe . . .

However it may have something to do with the way I made my odd-shapes
templates:

I initially exported primitives from Open Office Org. Draw as PNG
images [these do not contain transparent areas], then opened them in GIMP,
sprayed the white [i.e. would-be transparent areas] with PINK, and then
selected the pink, layered that onto a metallic template, deleted the 
pink, leaving a metallic shape - then saved as a PNG.

I wonder if exporting my initial primitives from Open Office Org. Draw as 
GIF images [which do contain transparent areas] and playing around
with them will allow me to end up with PNG images that behave themselves
with Runtime Revolution.  


I have yet to try exporting button shapes as GIF images. I suppose
this would circumvent any "volatility" related to RR and PNG images.

However; it is Friday night - off to a concert of music by Buxtehude
(my favourite composer) with my wife - and tomorrow I have to sort out
the kitchen units I messed-up installing the dishwasher. So, will
try the above on Sunday.

---

I do feel that the documentation on imageData and alphaData is woefully
lacking. The "happy, little experiments" I seem to be conducting at the
moment, leave me no clearer on the subject: idiot savant!

---

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.


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[Nhan, Tran Thi Thanh]

Dear all,

As I known, in Visual .Net has a plug-in called "Visual Assist" with
symbol "Apple". It helps developers in coding remember the syntax, key
word, properties...to avoid typing mistakes. Are there any the same one
in Run Rev?

Thanks so much
Nhan 
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[Haroldo Mauro Jr.]

Hi everybody, I just joined this list. I used Hypercard for many years, since I 
got my first Mac in 1991. Then, some years ago swiched to  Supercard, which 
I've been using a lot.  I've had Revolution Studio for over a year but only now 
am trying to use it more steadly. So, here's what I need help with right now.
In a converted Hypercard stack, an arrowKey handler in the stack script is not 
behaving as expected. So I checked the Revolution dictionary and found this 
example below, which I tested on my stack and it didn't work, just the same:

(example from Rev dictionary)
on arrowKey theKey -- make Up arrow go to the first card
  if theKey is "up" then go to card 1
  else pass arrowKey
end arrowKey

Instead of going to card 1 it kept going to the next card each time I pressed 
the up arrow key, and after the last card the stack just closed. 

Here's my original handler, from the Hypercard stack script, which doens't work:
(handler is in stack script)
on arrowKey whichKey
  if whichKey is "right" then
if the optionKey is down then
  go first card of next bg
else
  go next card of this bg
end if
  end if
  if whichKey is "left" then
if the optionKey is down then
  go last card of previous bg
else
  go previous card of this bg
end if
  end if
end arrowKey

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Harold
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[Peter Brigham]

Thanks. I used Iconographer to make a .icns file and after some
tweaking got the icon to show up. Problem solved. Now on to creating
a Windows icon



Iconographer can do that too. Just load your OS X icon file and save
as, choosing the Windows .ico format.

Cheers,
Sarah


Oh. Duh, I didn't see that. I'll try it. Thanks

-- Peter

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[Peter Brigham]

Jim Sims wrote:


On Jan 1, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Peter Brigham wrote:



The problem is with Leopard; my wife has an intel mac and it runs
fine on that with Panther. So the Win build in Mac Studio 2.8.1
build 471 fails for Leopard. Do later builds work? or will I have
to wait for 2.9?





OS X (10.4.11) PPC

Does not open here.

sims

ClipaSearch Pro
http://www.ClipaTools.com

Across Platforms - Code and Culture
http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/


Weird. Do you get any error message? I just downloaded the file from  
the website and opened it fine. I'm using a Mac iBook G4, OSX 10.4.1.  
I have a mainstack that doesn't splash, it remains hidden, and serves  
only to open my data stack. The script of the only card in the  
mainstack consists entirely of:


on preopenstack
  set the visible of this stack to false
end preopenstack

on openstack
  go stack "recipesData" in a new window
end openstack

The preopenstack handler in the data stack script is as follows  
(there is no openstack handler):


on preOpenStack
  set the tool to browse
  set the cursor to arrow
  if the environment = "development" then
set the menubar of this stack to ""
  else
set the menubar of this stack to "RFmenubar"
  end if
  set the backcolor of the templatecard to 218,225,197
  if the platform = "macOS" then
put the macHelp of this stack into h
  else if the platform contains "win" then
put the winHelp of this stack into h
set the textfont of btn "FileM" to "Tahoma" -- menubutton
set the textfont of btn "EditM" to "Tahoma" -- menubutton
set the textfont of btn "HelpM" to "Tahoma" -- menubutton
set the textfont of btn "new" to "Tahoma"
set the textfont of btn "delete" to "Tahoma"
set the textfont of btn "import" to "Tahoma"
set the textfont of btn "export" to "Tahoma"
set the textfont of btn "find" to "Tahoma"
set the textfont of btn "print" to "Tahoma"
set the textstyle of btn "new" to "bold"
set the textstyle of btn "delete" to "bold"
set the textstyle of btn "import" to "bold"
set the textstyle of btn "export" to "bold"
set the textstyle of btn "find" to "bold"
set the textstyle of btn "print" to "bold"
set the textfont of fld "notes" to "Times New Roman"
set the textfont of fld "ingr" to "Times New Roman"
set the textfont of fld "dir" to "Times New Roman"
set the textfont of fld "help" to "Times New Roman"
  end if
  set the htmltext of fld "help" to h
  put the uRect of this stack into rct
  put item 3 of rct - item 1 of rct into wndW
  put item 4 of rct - item 2 of rct into wndH
  put the working screenrect into scrRct
  put item 3 of scrRct - item 1 of scrRct into scrW
  put item 4 of scrRct - item 2 of scrRct into scrH
  set the maxwidth of this stack to scrW
  set the maxheight of this stack to scrH
  if wndW > scrW or wndH > scrH then
set the rect of this stack to scrRct
storeRFrect
  else
set the rect of this stack to rct
  end if
end preOpenStack

This is all initialization stuff that should not prevent the stack  
from opening in some form or other, AFAICT. And it opens fine on my  
G4 mac and my wife's Intel mac, both running OSX 10.4.1 (I guess  
that's Tiger, not Panther as I said before). Any ideas anyone?


A different puzzle (or maybe not?): When the build is done, if I copy  
the mac version of the standalone to a different folder to force the  
finder to recognize the custom icon, that doesn't work, I still have  
the generic mac app icon. After some fiddling, I found that the  
Revolution.icns file that the standalone builder creates in the app  
bundle appears to be corrupt -- at least it crashes IconBuilder when  
I try to open it. But if I make a copy of my custom .icns file  
(created with IconBuilder) and rename it "Revolution.icns" and  
substitute it in the bundle for the one that Rev created, the icon  
then appears when I copy the app to a different folder, and all  
appears well. Has anyone else seen this? Could this be related to the  
above problem of the app not opening for some people?


-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
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-- Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even  
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[Mark Greenberg]

My students are animating three characters on a card by hiding and  
showing .png images against a background.  Each character has a dozen  
moves or so, and each move has between 5 and ten frames.  Each figure  
is approximately 400 x 600 pixels in size.  My question is which  
would be faster, having the frames be separate image objects and  
using hide/show; or having just three image objects that draw their  
contents from images on another card with a repeat loop and something  
like...


Put image "p1punch" & frameNo of Card 2 into image "Player1Main"?

Speed is important because we are starting to reach the limit of the  
computers' ability to display the images.


Thanks in advance,

Mark Greenberg
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[Sadhu Nadesan]

Sadhu Nadesan
Sent via iPhone by AT&T



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[Peter Brigham]

On May 27, 2008, Lars Brehmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


...This brings me to a second question - in my standalone the close
button saves all substacks , but apparently choosing quit in the MacOS
menubar doesn't save anything. What must be done in order to have
quitting from the menu bar save changes as well?

Cheers,

Lars


I had this problem also, and various people on the list suggested the  
solution. You have to cover all the ways you can quit from a  
standalone, on both platforms. Here's the thread I saved:


From: Mark Schonewille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:16:34 +0100
Re: Re: saving data in a standalone before quit
(Was Re: (mac) application menu)

Peter,

When you use the Quit menu item, Mac OS X sends an event to  
Revolution. You can catch this message with the AppleEvent handler or  
the shutdownRequest handler. On Mac OS X, I prefer to use the  
AppleEvent handler most of the time.


If you use either the AppleEvent handler or the shutdownRequest  
handler without a pass command, the application will not quit by  
itself (you can also lock messages and issue the quit command).


When you press command-Q, the Quit menu item should work just like  
when you use the mouse to select this menu item and you can catch the  
AppleEvent and shutdownRequest messages again. However, your script  
may catch the commandKeyDown message. If you don't pass this message  
with the pass command, your application may not quit.


There are versions of Revolution that don't pass the commandKeydown  
message because of a bug. There are also versions that don't pass the  
AppleEvent message.


If you are using Rev 2.8.1, problems with quitting are probably due  
to a script.


Best regards,

Mark Schonewille



From: Marty Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:04:20 -0800
On: How to use Revolution 
Re: (mac) application menu

This was driving me crazy too. After messing around with it, I pieced
the following together and it's worked for me (I am using Rev 2.6.1):

on appleEvent pClass,pID,pSender  --I got this from Ken Ray's web site
  switch (pClass & pID)
  case "aevtquit"
answer "Save changes?" with "Don't Save" or "Save"
if it is "Save" then
  doSaveStuff
  pass appleEvent
else pass appleEvent
break
  default
pass appleEvent
break
  end switch

end appleEvent

on closeStackrequest
  Global homeStack
  if the short name of this stack is homeStack then
answer "Save changes?" with "Don't Save" or "Save"
if it is "Save" then
  doSaveStuff
end if
  end if
  pass closeStackrequest
end closeStackrequest

on shutdownRequest --I only use this for Windows
  Global homeStack
  if the platform contains "Win" then
if the short name of this stack is homeStack then
  answer "Save changes?" with "Don't Save" or "Save"
  if it is "Save" then
doSaveStuff
  end if
end if
  end if
  pass shutdownRequest
end shutdownRequest


Marty Knapp

**

Where to put the handlers depends on the structure of your stack  
system. You want them high enough up in the hierarchy to trap the  
messages no matter where the user is when the quit/close is  
triggered, but keep in mind that putting them in the main stack  
script will cause closeStackrequest to be called every time a  
subordinate stack closes.


-- Peter

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[darryl moore]

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[Robert Sneidar]

Hi All.

I am having an issue that I know was addressed in a previous post but  
I cannot seem to find it. I have established some functions to work  
with mySQL databases, and all is working fine except that whenever I  
build an SQL statement with values that include commas, carriage  
returns and the like, it hoses the sql statement. Isn't there a way  
of delimiting reserved characters in an sql statement? Something like  
preceding them with a backslash?


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM

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[Randall Lee Reetz]

Struggling with AppleScript.

All I want to do is run a script that opens a finder folder from a  
path (i.e. Macintosh HD:Users:MeUser:Desktop:myFolder:).


Well, this morning it works (after a reboot).  Last night it  
wouldn't.  Same exact script... from Script Editor and from SuperCard  
(oops).


Also, and I have no idea if this is related, copy and paste is not  
working (on my 1GHz PowerBook PowerPC G4 10.4.11).  Also, before my  
reboot this morning, my computer wouldn't open folders from the Doc  
Bar.  What could these problems be caused by?  Any ideas?


Randall
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[Shao Sean]

modified it some to be a little cleaner as well as allowing the data  
grid to know that it is sorting on the custom sorted column..



command sortDataGridColumn pColumn
  constant kColumnSize = "size"
  local tOldSortKey
  lock screen

  switch (pColumn)
case kColumnSize
  lock messages
  put the dgProps["sort by column"] of me into tOldSortKey
  set the dgProps["sort by column"] of me to kColumnSize

  if (the dgColumnSortDirection[kColumnSize] of me =  
"ascending") then
set the dgColumnSortDirection[kColumnSize] of me to  
"descending"

  else
set the dgColumnSortDirection[kColumnSize] of me to "ascending"
  end if
  unlock messages

  sortDataByKey kColumnSize, "numeric", the dgColumnSortDirection 
[kColumnSize] of me, FALSE


  set the dgHilite of group tOldSortKey of group "dgHeader" to  
FALSE

  set the dgHilite of group kColumnSize of group "dgHeader" to TRUE
  break
default
  pass sortDataGridColumn
  break
  end switch
end sortDataGridColumn
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[bar...@libero.it]

I am getting quite frustrated with this list. Everytime I get up enough courage 
to ask a question somebody throws in an example, to somebody else, which 
answers it! That's why I read all the digests every day and just wait for the 
tip I need to turn up, although it makes me feel like a lurker which is a name 
I don't like.
I just wanted to acknowledge this and say  thanks to ALL of you 
for the kind help. It may be a slower method of learning but it's certainly 
more enjoyable than wading through the Docs. Also the Docs don't have backchat 
as well.  {;-)) 
Just please keep it up.
Barry
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[Beat Cornaz]

Trevor wrote :

>Otherwise as long as you have > 1 column in your data grid tabbing
>will just work by default. I just tested by:

>1) Dragging a data grid table onto a new stack
>2) Adding two columns worth of data
>3) Double-clicking on column 1 to edit
>4) Pressing tab key.

I had also tested it this way. I have just done it again with another  
new mainstack. But the result is different from what you get. At step  
4) the open cell closes, but the next cell does not open.
I then replaced the dataGridLib.rev in my Toolset with a fresh copy I  
had downloaded and now it works as it should. It has happened before  
to me that the dataGridLib.rev  somehow got a bit off and after  
replacing it was ok again. I didn't think it would be the case this  
time as all other datagrid stuff worked beautifully.


So problem solved,

best, Beat


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[John Ridge]

I'm in the habit of pasting text from a specific website into a stack  
I use for keeping research notes. I'm surprised and pleased that the  
Paste command copes with styled text - even better, I can then re- 
format the text, changing fontsize and font, and still keep other  
styled elements such as colour.


But for some reason (maybe the website has just been redesigned?)  
there is now no white space between paragraphs. No problem, I thought  
- I'll script my "New Note" button to do all the work, including the  
pasting - so after checking the docs I tried


set the htmlText of fld "Notes" to the clipboarddata["HTML"]

which is fine. But my attempts to add white space seem to be  
destroying all the styling...


I've tried

replace "" with "" in fld "Notes"

which I thought was pretty subtle. Hmm... I must be missing something  
obvious here, as usual.


TIA for any help

Best wishes
John
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[Muaadh Salih]

Our problem is as follows:
We have two Unicode fields set for Arabic or Hebrew (that is from right to left 
system) .we put ,let's say four words into feild 1 (manually) then locked both 
fields.
we scripted field 1 with something like
on mouseUp
put the clicktext into myword
put myword after field 2
put Uniencode(space,"UTF8") after field 2
end mouseUP

When we clicked the first word of field 1 we got the last word that has been 
placed into field 2, Clicked at the 2nd to have the penultimate word...
It appears that when Rev shows text as right to left text it still thinks,sees 
from left to right.

This has been reported to Rev.people and agreed that an improved Unicode 
function might be appearing in the next update. Alas we are still in the 
current one!

We had the same problem in HyperCard before but that was solved by emulating a 
mouseclick into an unlocked field and hence the follwing logic:

set the unlocktext to false
click at the mouseloc
click at the mouseloc
get the selection
lock the fields
do the resrt
We wrote our langauge learning stacks ( Jumbled sentences, clze test...) using 
the above logic.
We should get the same in rev if we send a doubleclick message to unlocked 
field ( in thes case Rev. sees selection exactly as itis).

This does not work as far as we can see.

Any help?!!
Ken:
I will send you the stack as soon as get to my office.
 many thanks




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Can you elaborate? There must be a better way to accomplish what you're
doing than to try and emulate a user's double-clicking... can you provide
some more information on what you're trying to do?

Thanks,

Ken Ray


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[Devin Asay]

Heather, et al,

I decided to unsubscribe my former email address (which is actually  
an alias and which wreaks mischief on mail list submissions) and  
resubscribe with my new gmail address. When I attempted the latter, I  
discovered it had already been done for me (thanks, Heather.)  
However, the message that I sent yesterday morning, datetime stamped  
" Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:56:53 -0600", never showed up on the list. Is  
my new address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps in list member limbo  
somewhere?


Thanks and Regards,

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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[Stewart Lynch]

I have just purchased the e-Book on "Using Revolution's Engine for
Internet CGI's and the following link does not work.  I am looking for the
engine that will run on my Windows system.

Any thoughts?

>From the text
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Go to http://www.runrev.com/revolution/downloads/engines and look for the
latest
version of the engines (at this writing, it’s 2.1.2). Click on that folder
link and then
choose the engine for the server on which you wish to run your CGIs.

This link works, but it is not what I need.
 For the purposes
of this chapter, which uses Mac OS X as the demonstration platform, you’d
go to
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/downloads/engines/2.1.2/cgi/


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[Marielle Lange]

Dear Bob,

Welcome to revolution. Many resources exist, but they tend to be  
spread in different places of the web. It may take you a few days to  
discover hidden jewels.


You will find some code for a tree view at:
http://revolution.lexicall.org/stacks_education.php? 
category=tools_plugins&lastadded=added%20any%20time
The last item in the list, tree view. You may want to also have a  
look at the ontology manager which can be seen as version 2 of the  
tree view. The code in the tree view stack was somehow messy and was  
extensively rewritten for the ontology manager.


You will also find a list of various websites which propose  
revolution stacks at:
http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/tiki-index.php? 
page=RevolutionSnippetStacks


Best wishes,
Marielle



Hi,

I'm new to Revolution (like today new) and I have to admit that I  
was a bit surprised that there is no tree view in Revolution. Lack  
of a tree isn't going to kill me, but it would be nice. I'm also a  
little surprised that nobody has commented on this post... what am  
I missing?


At any rate, the URL below doesn't seem to work for me. Is there an  
alternative URL?


Thanks,
Bob


 


Marielle Lange (PhD),  Psycholinguist

Alternative emails: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage
http://homepages.lexicall.org/mlange/

Easy access to lexical databaseshttp://lexicall.org
Supporting Education Technologists  http:// 
revolution.lexicall.org



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[Marielle Lange]

Hi Xavier,

Thanks for this warning. I am aware of this. I have come across some of these
when investigating about how wikis are used in education.

Editing is only allowed for registered users but I still expect random spam to
happen occasionally, like on this wiki:
http://www.jpublish.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=RecentChanges.

The regular backup should help restore things back to normal rapidly. A  paper
on wikis in wired, a few months ago [wired news, wiki becomes a way of life:
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,66814,00.html] indicates that at
wikipedia the spam get fixed in less than 5 minutes. I cannot promise that of
course, but the perspective of a few hours disruption are nothing compared to
the benefit a wiki could bring to the revolution-education community. I can
always come back to a more secure model (password protected _directory_ access)
if needed.

I regularly have a look at your blogs and forums. My intention was not to create
concurrence, only to create a resource targetting a more specialized public.

You evoked the slahsdot.org model... In fact, the wiki framework I use, tikiwiki
let you add such a news+comments system (the module is installed, I disabled it
on my wiki as well as the blogs -- more info at: http://tikiwiki.org/, open
source, easy to install, easy to manage). Why not also consider RSS feeds? This
would facilitate the rapid exchange of news about revolution on the different
websites.

Marielle,

>Last month, I had a hacker insert half a dozen comments of totally doubtful
>origin into my story's comments - some 900 comments in total! Not good for
>my google ranking... I'd suggest you be aware that html PUT or SEND forms
>can be had for a ride at your expense...

>But i was bolder, i required no registration for comments - too bad for
>me... Fixed now... ;)

>MySQL cleansing was done thanks to RunRev in 5 minutes time thanks also to
>phpmyadmin...

>I'd like to share more openly but there always that user-level-agreement
>thing that is not working ;)

cheers
Xavier
http://monsieurx.com/taoo
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[Dave Rousseau]

Please stop sending me this junk email I do not know how or when I got
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[Eric Chatonet]

Hi everyone,
If you had a couple of minuts, could some of you test the speed of  
this internet connexion function from different places around the  
world and tell me the results?
Just email me off list (address below): I won't to pollute :-)
I shall be grateful.

on mouseUp
  put the milliseconds into tStart
  put InternetConnected() into temp
  put temp && "in" && the milliseconds - tStart && "milliseconds"
end mouseUp
function InternetConnected
  return url "http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/Test.txt"; = true
end InternetConnected
Speed appears variable at each call (here from 30 to  more than 200  
milliseconds)
but it's reliable and speedy enough for me ;-)

Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

So Smart Software
For institutions, companies and associations
Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc.
Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch
Plugins, tutorials and more on our website

Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
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[brad]

This is probably something obviouse. Here's the script:

answer file "Please select a file."
put there is a file it
put URL it into field "Entities"

The second line outputs true. The third line just places the path into the
field, not the file's contents (it's just a text file I'm trying to
import). I get exactly the same results if I remove the URL from the
statement. I've tried adding 'put "field:" & it...

OS 10.3.9, RR 2.5.1

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[Marielle Lange]

>I remember a game called "Chip Wits." You had a robot and had to teach him
>to walk around rooms and halls in a house using a simple programming
>language. It was so much fun!!!
>Great logic game. I loved it!!!

This? 
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[Vjstbenz]

Calm down Richard

it is just your version of life...that works for you.

..people who make software for computers.may never ever get that entity 
outside of their four bedroom wallsyou know...

.and often is the case...thatcommercial software developers 
themselves.are equally as cruel to one-anotherwhen developing in 
teamsirrispective of which corporation/s...finally own the copyrights 
on the software materialitself

The intellectual property rights on s/w...which incase you did not know 
Rich.last for ever...are where all the LEGAL emphasis is 
placed.(copying an idea/patent)

Rich if you count the time you'r assigining 'value' to here...in some context's 
of life...that is a fine thing to do(you sent a long e-mail...lots of time 
spent there...well done)

in a larger picture Richard ...i don't have the 'time' to explain away...all of 
my actionshere...(or defend them)
It was a gift to the listexcept...you don't see it the same...

machines work ahead of man...and have done for decades Richso

ofcoursevolunteering a product like a s/w tool demofor free... can also 
often mean.that there was never any market for that product in the first 
place...(globally)

hence the patent/s thing

In the future Richard ...the 'values' of life that you describe here are 
changing and peoples values and their 'value' as a personin lifeare 
changing...but not always reciprocally or in earnest...

Today Rich? do you think Billy Gates wanders around the globe in his little 
camper van (like he started out)looking for people...who have not got his 
signed copy of his diskof windows?

no no

Billy Gatesis busy...enough Richhe decidesthings like...'should 
Msoft give 33 billion pounds as a christmas present to it's share holders?(tax 
etc).or not?

not 'does it have to give' the cash out?..
'should it give the cash out?' as a christmas gift?.

(like a s/w demo..is a gift...)

turns out..Msoft did give out this cash. 33bill$...last 
christmas

33 billion dollars ...3 dollars.on each person's share in their 
portfolio

www.google.com.produces serials...on a simple search.
google is worth 5 billion now Rich...

.i have respect for LAW ...do you think google do?

.Rich, how many people do you think it would take...to make a new computer 
operating system today?(software)...and how much time and cost?...(don't 
answer thatlook in your toasterthere is one in there)

Richyou have the audacityto speakon behalf of many many 
many other members of a mailing list (like you have donevia your 
e-mail)it's not right to do that Richis it?

..no, i have not noticed that many of the list members make computer 
software to SELL (hobbies usually)...(i am new)but it does show you about 
the. time/versus/value.thing aboveso

Ethically Rich, your actions in one e-mailare far worse than any issue 
likesoftware piracyin lifeso

Richard...kindly take you opinions...and bury them...somewhere in a dark 
place...OK?(sounds like you may have just the right place dude'look 
up')

:-)

Ben
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[Marielle Lange]

> Any Game Theory adepts in the list?

In theory, yes... in practice too many other things to do :-.

Why not create an entry page on the education wiki, projects page
.
It's easier to manage for us, educator... we contribute when we can find a week
where we can actually do some rev programming (wish could do it more often).

Is this:  of
interest to you? Dynamic programming, game-oriented

Thanks for the code, I was looking for a similar solution to another problem.

Marielle
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[zack]

Hello,

Are there any example stack on how to create Bar Graphs in RunRev.  I  
want to have say 5 numbers graphed in a vertical bar chart. I have  
some cool graphics I can use to build the bars but I really have no  
idea how to begin.


Thanks in advance

z


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[Marielle Lange]

Same here it may have something to do with the RR server upgrade.
Best,
Mariele

>Hi all,
>I posted 3 or 4 emails since yesterday from my home mail adand none made
>it in the list?
>Any clues? TIA

>cheers
>Xavier

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[Marielle Lange]

>Jon,
>
>My point exactly: "a large array of numbers" = "data" So is the photograph
>you are computing the histogram on. Would either of these change, if you
>switch languages? Hence, they are external to your language, or "data."
>
>I write business application software, so I've never had to compute a
>histogram and admit I have no clue as to what's involved in that process.
>
>But, if you know the kind of data manipulation you will be doing in advance,
>you can parse, index, or otherwise reorganize the source data in such a way
>as to minimize large data sources or "large arrays."
>
>Now, depending on how well you organized your data, whether your language is
>in pcode or machine compiled, results in only milliseconds of difference.

Jim,

I support your view... I often have to manipulate huge lexical databases (50.000
lines, 50 columns). Usint the same computer language, I was often able to cut
running time down from 30 minutes to 2 min. by using more effective resource
management techniques.

Jon,

If you cannot see ways in which you can reorganize your data... why not consider
using Awk for your array processing (something that Awk excels at). Awk is
freely available on any platform, doesn't take more than 200K, and can be
learned in one day for your purpose (simple array processing). It is quite easy
to call to it to do array processing on large data and get the result back to
revolution. You will find information about Awk at
 (Why GAWK for AI?)


Marielle
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[Robert Hartley]

Hi Rod

I don't know what happened to my mail's text: I assume a script you wrote 
but just for the others her is my submission

Application Name: ABcitation
Version: 1
Availablility: February
Publisher: Armbase
Website: www.armbase.com
Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Platforms: Microsoft Windows
OS X Native?: No (but in th future)
Demo available: Full application shareware
Price: 5 dollars
Description (30 words or less) Bibliography manager for scientific journal 
references. There are many "Free" apps that are better. But they have a 
steep learning curve. ABcitation is simple, and simple to use. :-)

Cheers
Bob; Sunny Glasgow


Dr. Robert Hartley, Spinal Cord Group, West Medical Building,
University of Glasgow, Glasgow. G12 8QQ
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[Dan Soneson]

However, try putting the output of the function into the field:
put cube(3) into fld 1 -- the output goes into the message box, not
the field.
Tried here and it works with a field...!?

If you try this with a standard Transcript function:
	put sqrt(4) into fld 1 -- works as expected, with output to the 
field.
Has this always (not) worked like this? Have I just missed it all
these years?
I could swear I've done this successfully before.
Works here and should work for you...!?

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
Sorry, totally clueless...

Regards

Klaus Major
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www.major-k.de
I can confirm Devin's experience. When calling the function directly 
from the message box nothing in the field changes, the the result goes 
into the message result box, as if it were a simple put command. 
However, calling the function from a button script works just fine. So 
does putting the result into a variable and putting that variable into 
the field (in the multi-line version of the message box).

I'm using Rev 2.1.2 on Mac OS X 10.2.6. Maybe it's different in 
Panther? Windows?

Looks like a bug in any case.
Dan
Daniel B. Soneson
Director, Language Lab
Southern CT State University
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[Dan Soneson]

Check into the selectedLoc function. This would allow you to (under
lockScreen) select the chunk of text that is your placeholder, then use
the selectedLoc() to determine where the topLeft corner of the 
selection
is, and then use that to draw your entry field.

HTH,

Ken Ray
Thanks, Ken. That's perfect! I simply use a unique initial character 
for each word and another unique end character. I then use the offset 
function to identify and select each character in turn, get the x,y 
coordinates, do a bit of recalculation and then create a field that 
begins at the initial  character and ends after the ending character. I 
don't even have to delete this word, just cover it with the new field. 
It works and looks terrific.

Thanks again.

Dan

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[cspenner]

I built a Linux stand alone project on Windows.  The 'Answer file' and 'Ask file' just 
blow right through when running on the Linux platform.  No system windows appear, no 
errors either.

Works correctly when I build for Windows. (to run on Windows)

Any help would be appreciated.

(Using Runrev V2.1  and Build on Windows XP.  To platform Linux Redhat 9)
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[Chris Sheffield]

I found what I think is a bug with the player object in Revolution version
2.2 on Windows.  It seems to only happen with Win 2000 and Win XP Pro.  Why
only these two, I'm not sure.  But we've done tests on Win 98 and Win XP
Home and not had any problems.
 
Anyway, I'm wondering if someone can just take a couple minutes and verify
this for me.  Just create a new stack and put a single player object in it.
Set the filename of the player object to any audio file (probably any kind
of media file would work; haven't tested video though).  Hide the player
object, click the browse button, and start the player with "start player 1"
in the message box.  It should play for about half the audio and then cut
out.  It's strange because the file still continues to play, there's just no
sound.
 
This was working fine with 2.1.2, but not with 2.2, so something has
changed.  The trick is to hide the player.  If it's visible, it works just
fine.  I can work around this for now by just moving my player off screen,
but I'd like to not have to do that.  Can someone confirm and let me know,
and then I'll post it as a bug.
 
Thanks,

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally
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[Beat Cornaz]

Hello everyone,

I'm new to Rev (coming from Hypercard) and I'm delighted with the 
many new possibilities of Rev.

My question : I made a script to move and change direction of a line 
(a graphic). Works well until I want the former top to be beneath the 
former bottom. E.g. My line runs from bottom left to top right. Now I 
grab the top right side and drag it down. All goes well until the the 
top comes within 2 pixels from the bottom coordinate. I can't manage 
to go lower than the bottom, even if I exchange the bottom and top 
coordinates. What happens is that the line is horizontal now and 
moves down as a whole. The left side does not stay in its former 
location in de y direction but moves along (downwards) with the new 
bottom coordinate. It must be possible to do, as in the edit mode it 
is no problem to drag the top of the line in my example to a place 
below the former bottom.

Thanks a lot for any answers,
Greetings , Beat
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