Re: [FYI] WEBKIT

2008-09-11 Thread David Bovill
True - haven't done that - think it wouldn't distinguish between identical
frameworks installed in different places. I guess my main interest is where
the WebKit framework that Rev uses is.

By looking in the bundles of Safari and the nightly WebKit.app builds - it
is clear that Safari is using a system library framework, while the
WebKitt.app bundles the frameworks inside the bundle - which makes sense. I
assume Rev does the same thing as Safari, all though I have established that
some Safari plugins do not take with Rev's WebKit. Apparently this is
because plugins can be written in such a way as to depend on Safari
specifics and not just WebKit?

2008/9/10 Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>
> > I'm trying to figure out which WebKit framework revBrowser uses, and
> > therefore how it interacts with upgrades, and installation of Safari
> > plugins.
>
> Can you get the user agent? It should have the version and build number of
> WebKit that it uses in the result (or so I've been told).
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Re: [FYI] WEBKIT

2008-09-10 Thread Ken Ray


> I'm trying to figure out which WebKit framework revBrowser uses, and
> therefore how it interacts with upgrades, and installation of Safari
> plugins.

Can you get the user agent? It should have the version and build number of
WebKit that it uses in the result (or so I've been told).

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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Re: [FYI] WEBKIT

2008-09-08 Thread David Bovill
It's a little confusing. I've been trying to figure out the details, as its
also relevant to how revBrowser works - particularly with things like
plugins for Safari. This is the question I've asked on the WebKit forums:

 As the WebKit.app nightly build and Safari are both based on the Webkit
framework - how exactly does this work. My guess is that the nightly build
uses a more recnet framework bundled in the OSX package, and Safari uses the
a framework buried somewhere in the system/library?

2008/9/7 Colin Holgate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
>
>  The DEVELOP menu is hidden when first installed, but can be turned on in
>> preferences --> advanced
>>
>
> Do you know that it's in Safari too?


I'm trying to figure out which WebKit framework revBrowser uses, and
therefore how it interacts with upgrades, and installation of Safari
plugins.
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Re: [FYI] WEBKIT

2008-09-06 Thread Stephen Barncard
I haven't looked at it in a while. It's come a long way. The version 
numbers look the same. Perhaps the newly installed webkit is working 
with both (and Rev!).  Whatever, I've got two instances running at 
the same time, Safari and Webkit.



On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote:

The DEVELOP menu is hidden when first installed, but can be turned 
on in preferences --> advanced


Do you know that it's in Safari too?


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Re: [FYI] WEBKIT

2008-09-06 Thread Colin Holgate


On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote:

The DEVELOP menu is hidden when first installed, but can be turned  
on in preferences --> advanced


Do you know that it's in Safari too?


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[FYI] WEBKIT

2008-09-06 Thread Stephen Barncard
The discussion of the new Google Browser last week got me looking 
into Webkit, available for all platforms.   I just downloaded the 
latest 'Nightly build', because quite frankly, I was ready to think 
about chucking Safari because of all the crashes, etc lately.


Anyway, my early tests here reveal a much more stable, and faster 
browser. And for those that have to do more than surf the web and may 
actually have to work with it, this browser has some nifty developer 
tools, with really good UI design.  I mean BEAUTIFUL actually. The 
Apple Uniform Design actually got to the design tools.


http://houseofcubes.com/rev/screenshot.png

It includes an amazing timeline display on WHEN each element on the 
page loads, acts as a media reader for each item (resources), a 
separate view that shows resource sizes in the same way as the 
TIMELINE. Also a percentage bar at the top that shows TYPES of 
resources that are used in the page.


At the bottom the error list scrolls and shows tag mismatches and 
resource misinterpretations. Nice to see how a browser deals with 
your stuff. You can also LOOK at the source code, and opposed to the 
shamefull (non) formatting of Safari in the past, this INDENTS and 
COLORS the code very nicely. Also a DEBUGGER .


Two other tabs here say Profiles and Databases but nothing was 
inside. Not sure what that's for.



The DEVELOP menu is hidden when first installed, but can be turned on 
in preferences --> advanced




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