[OT] Plovdiv . . . / hard CASE

2010-05-25 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 Somebody on this Use-List surmised that Plovdiv, Bulgaria might
be rather like Madison, Wisconsin (or thereabouts).

Going in search of a new PATA 160 GB disk (not that
easy now that everybody except Richmond has
gone SATA) I ended up parking my car next to
this place:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Plovdiv/backside-cafe/153149382431

Had no time so didn't pop in for a drink; but fell for it
instantly: I mean, with a name like that, who wouldn't . . . :)
 

Tonight I am disciplining myself to work through my CASE problem;
where a CASE loop goes AWOL when the stack becomes a standalone.

Theories so far:

case 101
if the vis of group CONZ is true then
send mouseUp to img 2327k
break
 else
send mouseUp to img f2310.png
break
end if

doesn't hold; so . . .  Perhaps:

case 101
if the vis of group CONZ is true then
send mouseUp to img 2327k
break
   end if
   if the vis of group CONZ is false then
send mouseUp to img f2310.png
break
end if

(err . . . tried that one last night; no joy)

case 101
if the vis of group CONZ is true then
send mouseUp to img 2327k
break
   end if
   if the vis of group VWLZ is true then
send mouseUp to img f2310.png
break
end if

(groups CONZ and VWLZ flip their visibility back and forth)

if this doesn't work I will go for a pair of off-screen images that
VIS in-sync with the groups and pop them into the case statement.

Will keep you posted.

--

May yet end up walking across town to the Backside Cafe if things get 
too, too other . . .  :(


At least I might learn some Turkish; after all, having lived on-and-off 
for over 10 years
in a town that was part of the Ottoman Empire for some 500 years, and 
where 25% of
the population are either Turkish-speaking ethnic Turks or 
Turkish-speaking ethnic

Romanies it is a little bit disgraceful I have not a word of Turkish.

Richmond.
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Re: [OT] Plovdiv . . . / hard CASE

2010-05-25 Thread J. Landman Gay

Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Tonight I am disciplining myself to work through my CASE problem;
where a CASE loop goes AWOL when the stack becomes a standalone.


There's not enough info to say what's going wrong, but you'd save 
yourself a lot of time if you set a breakpoint near the top of the 
switch structure and step through it line by line. That would show you 
whether a case instance is executing or not, which line of the script 
isn't activating, what the state of the variables are, whether or not 
the engine thinks a group is visible, and so forth. Without that, it's 
just stabbing in the dark trying to guess what's happening.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: [OT] Plovdiv . . . / hard CASE

2010-05-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque-

Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 10:25:49 AM, you wrote:

 There's not enough info to say what's going wrong, but you'd save
 yourself a lot of time if you set a breakpoint near the top of the 
 switch structure and step through it line by line. That would show you

Unless you've got some trick in mind I don't know about, that isn't
going to help Richmond in a standalone...

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-Mark Wieder
 mwie...@ahsoftware.net

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Re: [OT] Plovdiv . . . / hard CASE

2010-05-25 Thread J. Landman Gay

Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 10:25:49 AM, you wrote:


There's not enough info to say what's going wrong, but you'd save
yourself a lot of time if you set a breakpoint near the top of the 
switch structure and step through it line by line. That would show you


Unless you've got some trick in mind I don't know about, that isn't
going to help Richmond in a standalone...



Oh. Oops. Forgot it was a standalone thing. I guess the only recourse 
then is to sprinkle a bunch of answers into the code, i.e., case 101, 
got here, vis is true, etc. Or better, log all that to a text file.


Richmond: there should be no difference between the visibility of a 
group in a stack and in a standalone, so I think something else is going 
on. My first impression was that running cross-platform would mean that 
the keycodes aren't the same across OSs, but if you're running the 
standalone on the same system you developed in, then that's not it.


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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: [OT] Plovdiv . . . / hard CASE

2010-05-25 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 25/05/2010 20:25, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Tonight I am disciplining myself to work through my CASE problem;
where a CASE loop goes AWOL when the stack becomes a standalone.


There's not enough info to say what's going wrong, but you'd save 
yourself a lot of time if you set a breakpoint near the top of the 
switch structure and step through it line by line. That would show you 
whether a case instance is executing or not, which line of the script 
isn't activating, what the state of the variables are, whether or not 
the engine thinks a group is visible, and so forth. Without that, it's 
just stabbing in the dark trying to guess what's happening.



Thanks so much; you caught me before the time I would
have wasted had I not had your advice.

Richmond.
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Re: [OT] Plovdiv . . . / hard CASE

2010-05-25 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 25/05/2010 20:30, Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 10:25:49 AM, you wrote:


There's not enough info to say what's going wrong, but you'd save
yourself a lot of time if you set a breakpoint near the top of the
switch structure and step through it line by line. That would show you

Unless you've got some trick in mind I don't know about, that isn't
going to help Richmond in a standalone...


The problem; very simply stated is that the CASE loop works 100% in a stack;
but when built into a standalone does not.

So I will have to muck around with alternative ways of doing the same thing
(and in RunRev . . . Thank the Lord . . .  there are many, many ways) 
and, each time,

build a standalone and see if the thing still works.
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Re: [OT] Plovdiv . . . / hard CASE

2010-05-25 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 25/05/2010 20:40, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 10:25:49 AM, you wrote:


There's not enough info to say what's going wrong, but you'd save
yourself a lot of time if you set a breakpoint near the top of the 
switch structure and step through it line by line. That would show you


Unless you've got some trick in mind I don't know about, that isn't
going to help Richmond in a standalone...



Oh. Oops. Forgot it was a standalone thing. I guess the only recourse 
then is to sprinkle a bunch of answers into the code, i.e., case 101, 
got here, vis is true, etc. Or better, log all that to a text file.


Richmond: there should be no difference between the visibility of a 
group in a stack and in a standalone, so I think something else is 
going on. My first impression was that running cross-platform would 
mean that the keycodes aren't the same across OSs, but if you're 
running the standalone on the same system you developed in, then 
that's not it.



I'm testing on the Mac PPC I'm developing on.

I'm off to have supper (Yup; 9.15 over here in the Wild East) and then 
boogie on
down; shame, though, really, I lost track of my leopard-skin posing 
briefs years

ago: really used to help with the coding . . .  :)
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Re: [OT] Plovdiv . . . / hard CASE

2010-05-25 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 25/05/2010 20:40, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 10:25:49 AM, you wrote:


There's not enough info to say what's going wrong, but you'd save
yourself a lot of time if you set a breakpoint near the top of the 
switch structure and step through it line by line. That would show you


Unless you've got some trick in mind I don't know about, that isn't
going to help Richmond in a standalone...



Oh. Oops. Forgot it was a standalone thing. I guess the only recourse 
then is to sprinkle a bunch of answers into the code, i.e., case 101, 
got here, vis is true, etc. Or better, log all that to a text file.


 You know that sometimes (just sometimes, mind) I am a bit slow to 
think my way

round things . . .

Now in my 'Devawriter' I have the same problem with groups and their VIS 
being flipped;


So: cracked open the stack and found (I mean, how come I am so flaming 
thick that after
a matter of about 3 months I had forgotten how I effected that) that 
there is absolutely no
reference to the VIS of a groups into which my faux buttons (images) are 
grouped; but to
the VIS of an image outwith the group which has its visibility set to be 
the same as the group.


Why?

Probably stupid Richmond encountered the same problem just before 
Christmas . . . . .   :(




Listening to Peter Sarstedt: http://www.petersarstedt.com/
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Re: [OT] Plovdiv . . . / hard CASE

2010-05-25 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 25/05/2010 20:40, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Mark Wieder wrote:

Jacque-

Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 10:25:49 AM, you wrote:


There's not enough info to say what's going wrong, but you'd save
yourself a lot of time if you set a breakpoint near the top of the 
switch structure and step through it line by line. That would show you


Unless you've got some trick in mind I don't know about, that isn't
going to help Richmond in a standalone...



Oh. Oops. Forgot it was a standalone thing. I guess the only recourse 
then is to sprinkle a bunch of answers into the code, i.e., case 101, 
got here, vis is true, etc. Or better, log all that to a text file.


Richmond: there should be no difference between the visibility of a 
group in a stack and in a standalone, so I think something else is 
going on. My first impression was that running cross-platform would 
mean that the keycodes aren't the same across OSs, but if you're 
running the standalone on the same system you developed in, then 
that's not it.


I have just tried all possible combinations within the Card script; all 
that work in the stack.

Each time; on building a standalone the script fails.

So; what I shall do, is start a new stack that includes those 2 groups 
and the card script and

see if that works; and build up my stack from that.

Very, very queer indeed.
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