RE: 3D Object Viewer (was: Open-source: Presentation software)
A 3D object viewer for rev, now you're talking! My personal dream would be to see a set of openGL bindings for rev that would allow you to create a 3D viewport window on a rev stack - perhaps embedded in an image object the way Chipp's altBrowser is. BTW: OpenGL is cross-platform too :-) Gordon --- Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of objects does your presentation software use? By that, I mean, I assume it does fields, pictures, audio, and video. Any other types of objects? I have been thinking that a 3-D object viewer would be a great object. (I hope no one objects to my overuse of the word 'object' here, which, objectively speaking, I am definitely overusing). I also think a 3-D animated character generator that speaks to the viewer, using whatever text is sent to it from a handler, would be nifty. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Talluto Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:24 PM To: Revolution use Revolution Subject: Open-source: Presentation software Some time ago I created a commercial product called Multimedia Generator. This is presentation software that was designed for the education market. We ended up getting users in many different markets over time. The software is pretty easy to use, but does lack some polish and features from talented folks like you. If you are interested in joining an open-source effort to make a better presentation tool using Rev, please join the group I have created at Yahoo:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mmgen/ Thanks for taking a look! -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution = :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: 3D Object Viewer (was: Open-source: Presentation software)
I have been thinking extensively about that very idea! It would require having custom properties for each object that would appear in the 3-D space that defines that object's location in 3-D space. Then, when the card preloads, you take the data for all objects inside the group with the image that will show the 3-D picture, and create an array of all 3-D pixels. Empty/transparent pixels would not be included in the array (otherwise it would get too large to be practical). Although this interim array step would slow down the loading up of a card, it would speed up the calculations needed for navigating in the 3-D space. Then, a script calculates a line that is perpendicular to each point on an imaginary plane (the imaginary plane being the view perspective). Whatever point in the array of points that is closest to the imaginary plane, along the line that is perpendicular to that point, is placed in the Z-buffer. When the Z-buffer is full, and thus the entire viewpoint for the imaginary plane has been mapped out, then the Z-buffer is transferred into the viewing image. It sounds easy, but there is a lot to consider - like optimizing calculations so that moving through the 3-D space does not take forever, and figuring out the parallax equations, so that large objects appear to taper into the distance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Webster Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:52 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: RE: 3D Object Viewer (was: Open-source: Presentation software) A 3D object viewer for rev, now you're talking! My personal dream would be to see a set of openGL bindings for rev that would allow you to create a 3D viewport window on a rev stack - perhaps embedded in an image object the way Chipp's altBrowser is. BTW: OpenGL is cross-platform too :-) Gordon --- Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of objects does your presentation software use? By that, I mean, I assume it does fields, pictures, audio, and video. Any other types of objects? I have been thinking that a 3-D object viewer would be a great object. (I hope no one objects to my overuse of the word 'object' here, which, objectively speaking, I am definitely overusing). I also think a 3-D animated character generator that speaks to the viewer, using whatever text is sent to it from a handler, would be nifty. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Talluto Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:24 PM To: Revolution use Revolution Subject: Open-source: Presentation software Some time ago I created a commercial product called Multimedia Generator. This is presentation software that was designed for the education market. We ended up getting users in many different markets over time. The software is pretty easy to use, but does lack some polish and features from talented folks like you. If you are interested in joining an open-source effort to make a better presentation tool using Rev, please join the group I have created at Yahoo:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mmgen/ Thanks for taking a look! -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution = :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3D Object Viewer (was: Open-source: Presentation software)
Recently, Gordon Webster wrote: A 3D object viewer for rev, now you're talking! My personal dream would be to see a set of openGL bindings for rev that would allow you to create a 3D viewport window on a rev stack The iGame3D guys have it. The developed a game for uDevGames with it here: http://www.igame3d.com/ Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3D Object Viewer
A 3D object viewer for rev, now you're talking! I don't know if Bill Griffin (one of the iGame3D guys) is ready to share his mind-boggling development work with the world (it's pretty complicated stuff) but as a licensee, I'm hoping to provide a subset of what the iGame guys are doing as a simple 3D tool. http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/3dsample.pdf This is pretty niche stuff, so development time is scarce, but hopefully, it will happen later this year. Props to the iGame guys -- they're doing great things. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3D Object Viewer
At 20:37 06/01/2005, you wrote: A 3D object viewer for rev, now you're talking! I don't know if Bill Griffin (one of the iGame3D guys) is ready to share his mind-boggling development work with the world (it's pretty complicated stuff) but as a licensee, I'm hoping to provide a subset of what the iGame guys are doing as a simple 3D tool. http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/3dsample.pdf This is pretty niche stuff, so development time is scarce, but hopefully, it will happen later this year. Props to the iGame guys -- they're doing great things. Hi Scott. I use a lot of high end imaging apps that cost 4-10,000 dollars each license. Indeed in our last place we spent 25,000 dollars on 5 licenses of one app alone. These apps do an incredible amount of things that most people don't need. If you need any pointers on an app that would sell in droves for 200 dollars a piece, let me know and I'll pass on the info. cheers bob Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3D Object Viewer
on Thu, 06 Jan 2005 Scott Rossi wrote: The iGame3D guys have it. The developed a game for uDevGames with it here: http://www.igame3d.com/ Hi Scott, Are they working in versions for OS X and Windows? Last time i contacted Bill, it was only for OS X... :-( al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3D Object Viewer
Recently, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Are they working in versions for OS X and Windows? Last time i contacted Bill, it was only for OS X... :-( I thought they were doing both, but perhaps Mac is getting more attention because the number of Mac tools out there is slim. Best to check with Bill. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
