OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse?
Hello, My original mac mouse doesn't reconnects, after the Bluetooth connection is lost (e.g. after a battery change). Also not after switching the mouse on/off at the bottom. Is there any trick to reconnect the blutooth connection or to operate a mac without a mouse beside a total shut down (with possibly open programs) and restart? Sorry for asking this in this list :-) Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse?
Hi Tiemo, Are you sure that the batteries are not empty _and_ deliver sufficient current? If the current is low, it might just take a while for the Mac and the mouse to find each other. Also, there is a setting in the bluetooth control panel that might prevent bluetooth devices from connecting to your Mac. If the Mac somehow loses track of the identity of the mouse, you may need to change this setting. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum Snapper Screen Recorder is now available for Windows! Download it at http://snapper.economy-x-talk.com . On 16 mrt 2009, at 12:23, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello, My original mac mouse doesn't reconnects, after the Bluetooth connection is lost (e.g. after a battery change). Also not after switching the mouse on/off at the bottom. Is there any trick to reconnect the blutooth connection or to operate a mac without a mouse beside a total shut down (with possibly open programs) and restart? Sorry for asking this in this list :-) Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse?
Hi Mark, I changed to new batteries, which work fine, after restart. But now going into the Bluetooth configuration assistant, the assistant doesn't finds my mouse, though it works! The assistant tells me I should check that my mouse is visible. They don't tell me where to check this option. At least I can SEE my mouse :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Schonewille Gesendet: Montag, 16. März 2009 12:26 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse? Hi Tiemo, Are you sure that the batteries are not empty _and_ deliver sufficient current? If the current is low, it might just take a while for the Mac and the mouse to find each other. Also, there is a setting in the bluetooth control panel that might prevent bluetooth devices from connecting to your Mac. If the Mac somehow loses track of the identity of the mouse, you may need to change this setting. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse?
Same thing happened to me when I changed the batteries in my mouse. I think the latest OS X has a bluetooth problem in it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse?
Ok, but do you know, what the assistant means with please check if your mouse is visible? In the system-mouse-control panel there is no visible flag. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von william humphrey Gesendet: Montag, 16. März 2009 13:33 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse? Same thing happened to me when I changed the batteries in my mouse. I think the latest OS X has a bluetooth problem in it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse?
Hi Timo, the assistant does not 'see' devices that are already registered. Your mouse should be registered, regardless of the battery change. Make shure Bluetooth is active, then turn off the mouse, turn it on again and click the mouse. It sometimes takes a while (seconds up to 10) for the mouse to be recognised. Clicking in my experience helps since that seems to send a signal to the computer and eventually it connects. It helps to make Bluetooth visible in the menubar. (from the preference pane) If you have a connection the symbol changes. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/OT%3A-How-to-reconnect-a-lost-bluetooth-mouse--tp22536173p22537740.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse?
Hi Bernd, Just one click did the trick to reconnect - too easy to find out :) Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von BNig Gesendet: Montag, 16. März 2009 14:07 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: OT: How to reconnect a lost bluetooth mouse? Hi Timo, the assistant does not 'see' devices that are already registered. Your mouse should be registered, regardless of the battery change. Make shure Bluetooth is active, then turn off the mouse, turn it on again and click the mouse. It sometimes takes a while (seconds up to 10) for the mouse to be recognised. Clicking in my experience helps since that seems to send a signal to the computer and eventually it connects. It helps to make Bluetooth visible in the menubar. (from the preference pane) If you have a connection the symbol changes. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/OT%3A-How-to- reconnect-a-lost-bluetooth-mouse--tp22536173p22537740.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bluetooth/USP GPS
Camm29 wrote: RunRev can now see that data on RS232 Port 1 , you will have to check what sort of Data the GPS transmit and/or receives ? Are they simple commands etc Almost certainly yes - we did a project with Rev interfacing to (USB) GPS last year, and it was trivial to read. Almost all GPS units have an NMEA compatible mode which is very easy to work with, and is well documented on the internet. From fading memory, the Garmin units may be the outliers here. As far as the simple interface is concerned, we found that all the USB units we tested had drivers for Windows which faked being a serial device (and indeed the hardware for these things generally is designed for RS232, with a chip in front to convert to USB). Mac was a little harder but most devices turned out to be using one of two chipsets to convert their native serial to USB, and it was possible to track down Mac drivers for both of them. I'm not a serious Linux user, but in at least one of these two I recall seeing a Linux driver also. HTH, - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bluetooth/USP GPS
Hi Camm- Looking at my MacBookPro's System Preferences, it appears if I go to Bluetooth settings, that under Sharing I have the option to Start Serial Port using one of two Type settings, either Modem or RS232 . By default, the port is named SerialPort-1 . To me, that implies that if I select RS232 as my Type setting , a Bluetooth GPS will be communicating through SerialPort-1 as if it was an RS232 device. Does that make sense? thanks for your continuing help on this - I want to make sure I buy the correct GPS system! Chris CAMM29 said: Chris , Well , that's not exactly what I said ! RunRev only has in built Commands for RS232 Type Data talking via RS232 Com Ports 1-9 , My setup is PC Side (RunRev) USB to Bluetooth Dongle configured as Virtual RS232 Com Port 1 Third Party Side --- Bluetooth to RS232 Convertor So RunRev thinks its talking via a standard RS232 Link , its does not matter what the transmission medium is but RunRev must see RS232 Data on a RS232 ComPort at the end of the day !!! Hope that Helps ! Regards Camm -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bluetooth/USP GPS
Chris , It looks promising , the only thing now is the actual data to/from the GPS ? Let's say the GPS is using Bluetooth and your PC is setup for Bluetooth on RS232 Port 1 RunRev can now see that data on RS232 Port 1 , you will have to check what sort of Data the GPS transmit and/or receives ? Are they simple commands etc Regards Camm - Original Message - From: Chris Condit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Bluetooth/USP GPS Hi Camm- Looking at my MacBookPro's System Preferences, it appears if I go to Bluetooth settings, that under Sharing I have the option to Start Serial Port using one of two Type settings, either Modem or RS232 . By default, the port is named SerialPort-1 . To me, that implies that if I select RS232 as my Type setting , a Bluetooth GPS will be communicating through SerialPort-1 as if it was an RS232 device. Does that make sense? thanks for your continuing help on this - I want to make sure I buy the correct GPS system! Chris CAMM29 said: Chris , Well , that's not exactly what I said ! RunRev only has in built Commands for RS232 Type Data talking via RS232 Com Ports 1-9 , My setup is PC Side (RunRev) USB to Bluetooth Dongle configured as Virtual RS232 Com Port 1 Third Party Side --- Bluetooth to RS232 Convertor So RunRev thinks its talking via a standard RS232 Link , its does not matter what the transmission medium is but RunRev must see RS232 Data on a RS232 ComPort at the end of the day !!! Hope that Helps ! Regards Camm -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 01/06/2007 11:22 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: USB or Bluetooth GPS
Yeah , I have a working Bluetooth/USB system on Rev Though Rev has to see it as a RS232 Com Port 0 -9 ! So the Bluetooth and/or USB driver software must make a Virtual RS232 Com Port 0 - 9 Best Regards Camm - Original Message - From: Chris Condit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: USB or Bluetooth GPS Revolutionaries- I've been working on making what I call Dynamic Digital Maps using Rev (you're welcome to piggy-back using my DDM-Template to make your own, see URL below). The DDM allows one to open jpeg map images in the DDM, and supply georeference information on the image, it so you can get latitude-longitude read outs as you scroll the mouse over the image. Now that classes are out, I'd like to take some time this summer to build in the capability to track your location from a GPS system as you are viewing the map (that is, to have the GPS signal drive the cursor location instead of having the mouse do it). I've been looking over various GPS devices, and see a couple that might work that use either USB or supply Communication with Host platform Via Bluetooth Serial Port Profile and wonder if anyone can give me a pointer as to which, if either I might be able to use with Revolution. In January this year, Sarah Reichelt allowed that: The [...] problem is that Rev cannot talk directly to a USB port. For all the interface things that I do, I use serial ports and I connect them to my Mac using a USB to serial adapter. Once you install the driver for such a device, Rev sees it as a serial device even though it is connected via USB, so then the standard serial commands work fine. I can get a Keyspan serial adapter to hook up to a GPS, but that seems like a more cumbersome way to go than straight USB or Bluetooth. Especially so, since USGlobalSat has two GPS that are WAAS enabled (for higher accuracy), one that uses a USB (for $80), and the other that uses Bluetooth for $160. Appreciate any help cheers Chris -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 24/05/2007 16:01 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
USB or Bluetooth GPS
Revolutionaries- I've been working on making what I call Dynamic Digital Maps using Rev (you're welcome to piggy-back using my DDM-Template to make your own, see URL below). The DDM allows one to open jpeg map images in the DDM, and supply georeference information on the image, it so you can get latitude-longitude read outs as you scroll the mouse over the image. Now that classes are out, I'd like to take some time this summer to build in the capability to track your location from a GPS system as you are viewing the map (that is, to have the GPS signal drive the cursor location instead of having the mouse do it). I've been looking over various GPS devices, and see a couple that might work that use either USB or supply Communication with Host platform Via Bluetooth Serial Port Profile and wonder if anyone can give me a pointer as to which, if either I might be able to use with Revolution. In January this year, Sarah Reichelt allowed that: The [...] problem is that Rev cannot talk directly to a USB port. For all the interface things that I do, I use serial ports and I connect them to my Mac using a USB to serial adapter. Once you install the driver for such a device, Rev sees it as a serial device even though it is connected via USB, so then the standard serial commands work fine. I can get a Keyspan serial adapter to hook up to a GPS, but that seems like a more cumbersome way to go than straight USB or Bluetooth. Especially so, since USGlobalSat has two GPS that are WAAS enabled (for higher accuracy), one that uses a USB (for $80), and the other that uses Bluetooth for $160. Appreciate any help cheers Chris -- Dr. Christopher D. Condit, Associate Prof., Dept. of Geosciences Univ. Massachusetts, 611 North Pleasant St., Amherst, MA, 01003-9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-545-0272 My Web Page: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/condit.htm Revolution Dynamic Digital Maps: http://ddm.geo.umass.edu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: USB or Bluetooth GPS
Hi Chris Theoretically you should be able to talk to the Bluetooth serial port like to any other serial port. I know that they get a COM descriptor on Windows (at least my adapter does), and should thus behave like any other serial port. However, how it would work on other platforms I do not know. If you get it to work, I'm sure others would be thrilled to know how, and with which devices. cheers Björnke On 31 May 2007, at 21:52, Chris Condit wrote: ... I've been looking over various GPS devices, and see a couple that might work that use either USB or supply Communication with Host platform Via Bluetooth Serial Port Profile and wonder if anyone can give me a pointer as to which, if either I might be able to use with Revolution. ... -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can I make Runrev (any version) able to use Pop-port USB or Bluetooth for exchange data?
No need to add urgent to your subject line, as you see, that just makes most people ignore it... As for your question: USB: external Bluetooth: Maybe the serial interface that bluetooth has, otherwise external Wikipedia says pop-port is just a proprietary plug by nokia for usb. have fun On 25 May 2007, at 07:18, supote songthammawat wrote: Dear Everybody, I 'd like to know Can I make Runrev (any version) able to use Pop-port USB or Bluetooth for exchange data? If possible how to do. Pls guide or suggest me. Thks. Best Regard, Supote ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Urgently!!!! Can I make Runrev (any version) able to use Pop-port USB or Bluetooth for exchange data?
Dear Everybody, I 'd like to know Can I make Runrev (any version) able to use Pop-port USB or Bluetooth for exchange data? If possible how to do. Pls guide or suggest me. Thks. Best Regard, Supote ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Urgently!!!! Can I make Runrev (any version) able to use Pop-port USB or Bluetooth for exchange data between devices?
Dear Everybody, I 'd like to know Can I make Runrev (any version) able to use Pop-port USB or Bluetooth for exchange data between devices? If possible how to do. Pls guide or suggest me. Thks. Best Regard, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Urgently!!!! How can I use runrev 2.5.1 send or receive Data or File by Bluetooth or Pop-port USB from Mobile Phone to my computer?
I can do app on mobile. So data transfer and flow control on mobile is no problem for me. Thank you Sarah: I would like to know if it's possible for someone to do an external to make RunRev (any version) able to use bluetooth/usb to exchange data with mobile? The link from Ian is about config MacOSX to exchange data with Lego Mindstorms NXT. http://juju.org/articles/2006/10/22/bluetooth-serial-port-to-nxt-in-osx On 5/4/07, Ian Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3 May 2007, at 22:08, Sarah Reichelt wrote: No sorry. I've only done serial communications using a USB to serial device. I haven't done any actual USB or Bluetooth comms. I don't think either would be possible without an external. Bluetooth can in theory be accessed via a virtual serial port, but you going to get and send raw data. Going from there to uploading/ downloading actual files is likely to be a bit... 'complex'. Buried in the following link are instructions for setting up a virtual port on OS X: http://juju.org/articles/2006/10/22/bluetooth-serial-port-to-nxt-in- osx Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Urgently!!!! How can I use runrev 2.5.1 send or receive Data or File by Bluetooth or Pop-port USB from Mobile Phone to my computer?
Hi everybody, I want to know that runrev v.2.5.1 can use Bluetooth or Pop-port USB from Notebook or Desktop in order to send or receive Data or File from Mobile Phone. Please tell or suggest me. And if can do how to build or use? Please help me. Urgently!!! Thank you. Best Regard, Supote ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Urgently!!!! How can I use runrev 2.5.1 send or receive Data or File by Bluetooth or Pop-port USB from Mobile Phone to my computer?
On Thu, 3 May 2007 17:41:22 +0700, supote songthammawat wrote: Hi everybody, I want to know that runrev v.2.5.1 can use Bluetooth or Pop-port USB from Notebook or Desktop in order to send or receive Data or File from Mobile Phone. Please tell or suggest me. And if can do how to build or use? Please help me. Urgently!!! Supote, I wish I could give you a concrete answer... I know that Rev has been used in connection with certain USB devices to send/receive data, in fact there's specific support for Revolution in the BK (Bonig and Kallenbach) Service USB product (http://www.bkohg.com/products.html), but I don't think that will work with mobile phones. Others here have done some more simple USB connections (Sarah, did you do one?). As far as Bluetooth is concerned, I don't know of anyone who has used a Rev app to communicate via Bluetooth. If anyone else can add to this or provide some direction to Supote, please chime in... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Urgently!!!! How can I use runrev 2.5.1 send or receive Data or File by Bluetooth or Pop-port USB from Mobile Phone to my computer?
I want to know that runrev v.2.5.1 can use Bluetooth or Pop-port USB from Notebook or Desktop in order to send or receive Data or File from Mobile Phone. Please tell or suggest me. And if can do how to build or use? Please help me. Urgently!!! Supote, I wish I could give you a concrete answer... I know that Rev has been used in connection with certain USB devices to send/receive data, in fact there's specific support for Revolution in the BK (Bonig and Kallenbach) Service USB product (http://www.bkohg.com/products.html), but I don't think that will work with mobile phones. Others here have done some more simple USB connections (Sarah, did you do one?). No sorry. I've only done serial communications using a USB to serial device. I haven't done any actual USB or Bluetooth comms. I don't think either would be possible without an external. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Urgently!!!! How can I use runrev 2.5.1 send or receive Data or File by Bluetooth or Pop-port USB from Mobile Phone to my computer?
On 3 May 2007, at 22:08, Sarah Reichelt wrote: No sorry. I've only done serial communications using a USB to serial device. I haven't done any actual USB or Bluetooth comms. I don't think either would be possible without an external. Bluetooth can in theory be accessed via a virtual serial port, but you going to get and send raw data. Going from there to uploading/ downloading actual files is likely to be a bit... 'complex'. Buried in the following link are instructions for setting up a virtual port on OS X: http://juju.org/articles/2006/10/22/bluetooth-serial-port-to-nxt-in- osx Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How can I use runrev 2.5.1 send or receive data by bluetooth from Mobile Phone?
Hi everybody, I want to know that runrev v.2.5.1 can use Bluetooth from Notebook or Desktop in order to send or receive data from Mobile Phone. Please tell or suggest me. And if can do how to build or use? Thank you. Best Regard, Supote ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bluetooth
On 3/19/07, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:08:45 -0600, Matt wrote: Does anyone know of the way that I could use BlueTooth to connect to my Palm Pilot through Revolution? I am on a PowerBook G4 and would use the built in Bluetooth. I know that i would have to use something like open socket, but I don't know which socket to open. The purposes of this is that I would like to have a program that would make the computer act like an external keyboard. Sorry, Matt... I don't know what port you need either. Shame you're on a Mac... there's a Windows program called TapSmart KeyLink for PCs that does exactly what you are asking for: http://www.mobilityware.com/KeyLink/KeyLinkProduct.htm Rated 5 stars on PalmGear.com from the couple dozen people who reviewed it. Maybe this works through Parallels? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution That is interesting, too bad it isn't for mac. -- Matthew Peterson Programmer Christa McAuliffe Space Education Center ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bluetooth
Does anyone know of the way that I could use BlueTooth to connect to my Palm Pilot through Revolution? I am on a PowerBook G4 and would use the built in Bluetooth. I know that i would have to use something like open socket, but I don't know which socket to open. The purposes of this is that I would like to have a program that would make the computer act like an external keyboard. -- Matthew Peterson Programmer Christa McAuliffe Space Education Center ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bluetooth
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:08:45 -0600, Matt wrote: Does anyone know of the way that I could use BlueTooth to connect to my Palm Pilot through Revolution? I am on a PowerBook G4 and would use the built in Bluetooth. I know that i would have to use something like open socket, but I don't know which socket to open. The purposes of this is that I would like to have a program that would make the computer act like an external keyboard. Sorry, Matt... I don't know what port you need either. Shame you're on a Mac... there's a Windows program called TapSmart KeyLink for PCs that does exactly what you are asking for: http://www.mobilityware.com/KeyLink/KeyLinkProduct.htm Rated 5 stars on PalmGear.com from the couple dozen people who reviewed it. Maybe this works through Parallels? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bluetooth physiological data acquisition
Revvers, Every now and then I have raised this on the list, but at last seem to be getting somewhere. I have found some portable bluetooth physiological equipment which seems to be very flexible regarding ways of acquiring the data. The most simple involves an invisible process writing 80 bytes to a single line file just about once a millisecond (overwriting the previous data). My Rev application only needs to read relevant (2 to 4) bytes of that as often as I need (maybe 10-20 times a second for around half an hour ), and append that to a second file, which I can then parse and analyse later. I estimate that the final result will be about 18,000 to 36,000 lines of data. I plan to time it all with a 'send doit to me in tmills milliseconds' but I go a bit vague beyond that. Any suggestions about how to do the read-append as efficiently as possible? Should I try to read the specific bytes I want, or read and append the lot, then pick out the parts I want later? It may be a dumb question, but if the source file is in the same directory as the growing destination file, is it quicker than if the destination file is 'way over there' buried 6 deep in a different directory? Does an append get slower the larger the destination file becomes? Finally, what is the most efficient way of making the data read conditional? I had thought about putting a 'repeat while' somewhere, but I am not sure where. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bluetooth physiological data acquisition
I think I would have script locals to hold the names of source and destination files, and then simply write to the destination file each time new data is read, closing it only when finished: local sSourceFile local sDestFile on run open file sDestFile for update nextUpdate end run on nextUpdate put char 5 to 8 (or whatever) of URL(file: sSourceFile) into tData write tData to file sDestFile if (your exit condition) then endProcess else send nextUpdate to me in 300 milliseconds end if end nextUpdate on endProcess close file sDestFile end endProcess You get the idea... Best, Mark On 9 Mar 2007, at 21:22, David Glasgow wrote: I plan to time it all with a 'send doit to me in tmills milliseconds' but I go a bit vague beyond that. Any suggestions about how to do the read-append as efficiently as possible? Should I try to read the specific bytes I want, or read and append the lot, then pick out the parts I want later? It may be a dumb question, but if the source file is in the same directory as the growing destination file, is it quicker than if the destination file is 'way over there' buried 6 deep in a different directory? Does an append get slower the larger the destination file becomes? Finally, what is the most efficient way of making the data read conditional? I had thought about putting a 'repeat while' somewhere, but I am not sure where. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bluetooth physiological data acquisition
Hi David, Here's another approach: To avoid spending time on file overhead during the data collection period, you could collect the data into a variable. Then when data collection is finished, write the variable (or put it into a local URL.) Doing it this way also means the speed of putting the file in whatever location you choose is a non-issue. Of course it could be that the amount of time needed to write to a file is negligible. In that case, I would probably use Mark's approach myself, since it leaves data on the HD if the app dies during the collection process. HTH - Phil Davis Mark Smith wrote: I think I would have script locals to hold the names of source and destination files, and then simply write to the destination file each time new data is read, closing it only when finished: local sSourceFile local sDestFile on run open file sDestFile for update nextUpdate end run on nextUpdate put char 5 to 8 (or whatever) of URL(file: sSourceFile) into tData write tData to file sDestFile if (your exit condition) then endProcess else send nextUpdate to me in 300 milliseconds end if end nextUpdate on endProcess close file sDestFile end endProcess You get the idea... Best, Mark On 9 Mar 2007, at 21:22, David Glasgow wrote: I plan to time it all with a 'send doit to me in tmills milliseconds' but I go a bit vague beyond that. Any suggestions about how to do the read-append as efficiently as possible? Should I try to read the specific bytes I want, or read and append the lot, then pick out the parts I want later? It may be a dumb question, but if the source file is in the same directory as the growing destination file, is it quicker than if the destination file is 'way over there' buried 6 deep in a different directory? Does an append get slower the larger the destination file becomes? Finally, what is the most efficient way of making the data read conditional? I had thought about putting a 'repeat while' somewhere, but I am not sure where. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
Scott - - this is great info, thanks! So it sounds like the only drawback is: 1) A clunky cable interface I forgot to ask - - - are you doing this on a Mac or Windows platform? Would this work with a Mac? How does the scanner know that the data actually made it into the computer before it deletes all it's contents? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 1:25 AM Subject: Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev? I'm curious to know if the mini sends barcodes to Revolution as if you're using a keyboard I'm still trying to get details on how to possibly connect the scanner output to Rev OK, it's pretty basic -- the scanner sends the barcode digits to any region on the screen that can accept text, which means you can scan a code into a Rev field that has focus. As you guessed above, the scanner sends barcodes in the form of keystrokes (keyDown message). I tried scanning an iTunes gift card barcode and it works. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it sounds like the only drawback is: 1) A clunky cable interface Well, IMO, a scanner that has some kind of display on it would be the ideal. Because this unit has no display, there's no way to know how many items are on it or what you last scanned, but then again it's a relatively inexpensive unit. I forgot to ask - - - are you doing this on a Mac or Windows platform? Would this work with a Mac? Mac. How does the scanner know that the data actually made it into the computer before it deletes all it's contents? It doesn't care. It sends the text whether there's a field or not, the same as if you'd typed on your keyboard without being focused on a field. It works 2 ways: 1) without the cable connected, it stores scans and then dumps them when the cable is attached 2) with the cable connected, each scan is dumped immediately OK, enough [OT] for the list. Back to more important Rev matters. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flicscanner.com/ I'd love to use this device with a Rev app I'm making if at all possible. I have no idea how to interface with BlueTooth technology, however. I picked up this one at Macworld to do some experiments. http://www.intelliscanner.com/products/mini/index.html It already has software built for it, but not sure if any dev kit is available. I'll mention anything I find out. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
That's great! I emailed them yesterday asking if I could obtain one as a developer, but I haven't heard back yet. I'm curious to know if the mini sends barcodes to Revolution as if you're using a keyboard, or if you have to write some special driver connections to get data out of it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev? Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flicscanner.com/ I'd love to use this device with a Rev app I'm making if at all possible. I have no idea how to interface with BlueTooth technology, however. I picked up this one at Macworld to do some experiments. http://www.intelliscanner.com/products/mini/index.html It already has software built for it, but not sure if any dev kit is available. I'll mention anything I find out. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious to know if the mini sends barcodes to Revolution as if you're using a keyboard, or if you have to write some special driver connections to get data out of it. Here's the official word I got back from a representative: IntelliScanner mini is not designed for use with our business software (such as Inventory and the Business Integration Kit) or third-party applications. You'll probably be able to use your mini with keyboard emulation for your Revolution app, but third-party integration is unsupported with our consumer product line. I'm still trying to get details on how to possibly connect the scanner output to Rev but they clearly do not support any app development with the consumer model -- you need to go with one of their business products for that. As it stands, the connection from the scanner to the computer is a little klunky. You use two cables and a Keyspan adapter in between. Apparently, once you connect the scanner to the computer and the data has transferred, the scanner is automatically wiped clean for the next scans. I'm using the kitchen software, which connects to an (online?) database in an attempt to match your scanned codes to products in the database. It's pretty cool, but several of the products I scanned have incomplete info or do not appear in the database at all. Because of the form factor (much like a keyring flashlight) it is quite easy to scan items around the house and one can see how scanning could become addictive. Their motto: Scan responsibly. More as it comes in... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
I'm curious to know if the mini sends barcodes to Revolution as if you're using a keyboard I'm still trying to get details on how to possibly connect the scanner output to Rev OK, it's pretty basic -- the scanner sends the barcode digits to any region on the screen that can accept text, which means you can scan a code into a Rev field that has focus. As you guessed above, the scanner sends barcodes in the form of keystrokes (keyDown message). I tried scanning an iTunes gift card barcode and it works. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
http://www.flicscanner.com/ I'd love to use this device with a Rev app I'm making if at all possible. I have no idea how to interface with BlueTooth technology, however. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
There are a lot of bar code scanners out there. Most will work substituting for a keyboard and with any software. USB seems to be the lingua franca these days, in which case it should just plug in to a USB port and will simply type a number into 'the selection' in a field after scanning. This will work with any app that allows input into fields. some wands can 'remember' and timestamp many scans and could be docked periodically for data download. serial port for interface might be found in older models. Rev can do this, either through a real port on a PC or a virtual port with a Keyspan USB-serial dongle. If the device is bundled with inventory software, beware of proprietary connections and platform incompatibilities. bluetooth might work if the drivers patch into the keyboard input, the computer in use has bluetooth, and all the compatibility issues are met. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use a wire? You won't need anything else if you get a USB-as-keyboard unit. so choose wisely and talk to tech support before you buy. http://www.flicscanner.com/ I'd love to use this device with a Rev app I'm making if at all possible. I have no idea how to interface with BlueTooth technology, however. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
I'm open to the suggestion of going USB instead of BlueTooth, and picking a barcode scanner that types into an input field like a keyboard. Can anyone tell me of any favorites? In particular, any that could be wireless, collect a bunch of data, and then plug into the computer to download the data into a Revolution text field? In a message dated 1/10/07 11:37:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are a lot of bar code scanners out there. Most will work substituting for a keyboard and with any software. USB seems to be the lingua franca these days, in which case it should just plug in to a USB port and will simply type a number into 'the selection' in a field after scanning. This will work with any app that allows input into fields. some wands can 'remember' and timestamp many scans and could be docked periodically for data download. serial port for interface might be found in older models. Rev can do this, either through a real port on a PC or a virtual port with a Keyspan USB-serial dongle. If the device is bundled with inventory software, beware of proprietary connections and platform incompatibilities. bluetooth might work if the drivers patch into the keyboard input, the computer in use has bluetooth, and all the compatibility issues are met. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use a wire? You won't need anything else if you get a USB-as-keyboard unit. so choose wisely and talk to tech support before you buy. http://www.flicscanner.com/ I'd love to use this device with a Rev app I'm making if at all possible. I have no idea how to interface with BlueTooth technology, however. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
Google for bar code scanners and find a manufacturer or retail that will let you borrow or return one for testing. It's very competitive out there in that market. Tell them you're a developer... I'm open to the suggestion of going USB instead of BlueTooth, and picking a barcode scanner that types into an input field like a keyboard. Can anyone tell me of any favorites? In particular, any that could be wireless, collect a bunch of data, and then plug into the computer to download the data into a Revolution text field? -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
This is very strange. I recently bought a new Mac and ordered Apple's wireless bluetooth keyboard. I've been very happy with it and it has worked flawlessly...until I started working on a Rev application I had previously developed. Then I noticed a very strange thing. Suddenly a handler that used if the shiftkey is down didn't work anymore. Of course I thought it was a bug that was introduced in V2.6 but then I checked it in 2.5.1 (where the app was developed) and it didn't work there! So I did some testing. On a different Mac (with a different keyboard) I put this in the message box: put the shiftkey When it was down, it printed out down. When it was up, it printed out up. Duh! However, on my bluetooth keyboard, it never recognized the down state. It turns out it has the same problem for the optionkey and the controlkey! Obviously, my keyboard can type in CAPITALS, so it's not a hardware problem. In fact, the only place I've noticed this is in Rev. So... if anyone out there has an Apple wireless keyboard, would you please try the above test and let me know the results. Anybody have any clue why this would be happening? Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
Howard Bornstein wrote: Anybody have any clue why this would be happening? I have neither a Mac nor a Bluetooth keyboard - but I do have a guess. I would bet the Bluetooth keyboard is saving power by not transmitting any info to let the machine know when unimportant keys such as shift, option, etc. are depressed and released. It probably only sends that info when a real key - i.e. one which represents a character - is pressed. There *might* (if you're very lucky) be an option setting in the keyboard or keyboard driver to control that - but I'd bet against it. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 04/06/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
On 6/10/05, Alex Tweedly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would bet the Bluetooth keyboard is saving power by not transmitting any info to let the machine know when unimportant keys such as shift, option, etc. are depressed and released. It probably only sends that info when a real key - i.e. one which represents a character - is pressed. Ugh. This would be bad. I often use a if the shiftkey is down or an if the optionkey is down in a mouseup handler to provide special features. If you're right, this will no longer work for wireless keyboard users. There *might* (if you're very lucky) be an option setting in the keyboard or keyboard driver to control that - but I'd bet against it. I have no idea how to access the keyboard driver. :-( Here's a thought. iPhoto uses the option-down key to change the rotation icon from left to right. I just tried it and pressing the optionkey by itself does, in fact, cause the button to change. So the keyboard is obviously sending out the code. Why doesn't Revolution get it? Any other ideas? -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
Recently, Howard Bornstein wrote: I would bet the Bluetooth keyboard is saving power by not transmitting any info to let the machine know when unimportant keys such as shift, option, etc. are depressed and released. It probably only sends that info when a real key - i.e. one which represents a character - is pressed. Ugh. This would be bad. I often use a if the shiftkey is down or an if the optionkey is down in a mouseup handler to provide special features. If you're right, this will no longer work for wireless keyboard users. I empathize with you. Did you try investigating rawKeyDown to see if *any* messages are sent? Hopefully you will find a workaround. I recently endured some significant headaches (and subsequent embarrassment) from a client demo that refused to work on Windows. Had to get everything working on a Mac at the last minute and apologize to the client for the apparent lack of functionality in Rev. After many hours of testing/hair pulling, the issue turned out to be a malfunctioning keyboard that I only thought to check on a whim, after much help from this list. When faced with issues like these, the Reasons You're A Software Developer offer little comfort. It just goes to show that whatever you build will *never* work on every system out there and there is no substitute for, as Klaus Major says, Test, test, test. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
On 6/10/05, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I empathize with you. Did you try investigating rawKeyDown to see if *any* messages are sent? Hopefully you will find a workaround. Per the TD for rawkeydown: On Mac OS systems, no message is sent when a modifier key (Shift, Option, Control, or Command) is pressed, unless another key is pressed along with the modifier key. When I press another key, of course, the shiftkey works as expected (SEE!) I recently endured some significant headaches (and subsequent embarrassment) from a client demo that refused to work on Windows. Had to get everything working on a Mac at the last minute and apologize to the client for the apparent lack of functionality in Rev. After many hours of testing/hair pulling, the issue turned out to be a malfunctioning keyboard that I only thought to check on a whim, after much help from this list. I remember that. Ugh. When faced with issues like these, the Reasons You're A Software Developer offer little comfort. It just goes to show that whatever you build will *never* work on every system out there and there is no substitute for, as Klaus Major says, Test, test, test. Agreed. It was lucky I found this by accident. Maybe I'll find the solution by accident also. :-) -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
Perhaps the other programs are working in a different way? If you have the shiftkey down, and press a key, that would send a different raw character number than if you have the shiftkey up. The other programs that work with the shiftkey on your keyboard might be detecting the raw character number that is sent when they shiftkey is down while you press a standard key, rather than detecting whether or not the shiftkey is actually down. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Bornstein Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:09 PM To: Scott Rossi Cc: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??) On 6/10/05, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I empathize with you. Did you try investigating rawKeyDown to see if *any* messages are sent? Hopefully you will find a workaround. Per the TD for rawkeydown: On Mac OS systems, no message is sent when a modifier key (Shift, Option, Control, or Command) is pressed, unless another key is pressed along with the modifier key. When I press another key, of course, the shiftkey works as expected (SEE!) I recently endured some significant headaches (and subsequent embarrassment) from a client demo that refused to work on Windows. Had to get everything working on a Mac at the last minute and apologize to the client for the apparent lack of functionality in Rev. After many hours of testing/hair pulling, the issue turned out to be a malfunctioning keyboard that I only thought to check on a whim, after much help from this list. I remember that. Ugh. When faced with issues like these, the Reasons You're A Software Developer offer little comfort. It just goes to show that whatever you build will *never* work on every system out there and there is no substitute for, as Klaus Major says, Test, test, test. Agreed. It was lucky I found this by accident. Maybe I'll find the solution by accident also. :-) -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
On 6/10/05, Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps the other programs are working in a different way? If you have the shiftkey down, and press a key, that would send a different raw character number than if you have the shiftkey up. Right. The rawkeydown handler shows this difference. It just doesn't show anything (nor does if the shiftkey is down) when I'm only pressing the shiftkey and no other key. The other programs that work with the shiftkey on your keyboard might be detecting the raw character number that is sent when they shiftkey is down while you press a standard key, rather than detecting whether or not the shiftkey is actually down. iPhoto reacts when the option key is pressed with no other keys being pressed. That's what I want to be able to do in Rev (and can do with any other keyboard). While I don't need a raw character number, I do need to be able to respond to if the optionkey is down, which I can with a regular keyboard but which no longer works on the wireless one. :-( -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
Scott- Friday, June 10, 2005, 11:58:45 AM, you wrote: SR When faced with issues like these, the Reasons You're A Software Developer SR offer little comfort. It just goes to show that whatever you build will SR *never* work on every system out there and there is no substitute for, as SR Klaus Major says, Test, test, test. sigh First rule of thumb: if you've made a cable yourself, it's automatically suspect. That one just bit me yesterday, and I should know better... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
All, I have a 17 PB with a Bluetooth keyboard and shift, option and control key downs work just fine in mouse up handlers. So it isn't a generic problem. It's true that some? bluetooth devices won't wake a Mac up if its asleep (as it has to be alert to listen) but other than that it shouldn't matter. Jim On Jun 10, 2005, at 11:58 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Howard Bornstein wrote: I would bet the Bluetooth keyboard is saving power by not transmitting any info to let the machine know when unimportant keys such as shift, option, etc. are depressed and released. It probably only sends that info when a real key - i.e. one which represents a character - is pressed. Ugh. This would be bad. I often use a if the shiftkey is down or an if the optionkey is down in a mouseup handler to provide special features. If you're right, this will no longer work for wireless keyboard users. I empathize with you. Did you try investigating rawKeyDown to see if *any* messages are sent? Hopefully you will find a workaround. I recently endured some significant headaches (and subsequent embarrassment) from a client demo that refused to work on Windows. Had to get everything working on a Mac at the last minute and apologize to the client for the apparent lack of functionality in Rev. After many hours of testing/ hair pulling, the issue turned out to be a malfunctioning keyboard that I only thought to check on a whim, after much help from this list. When faced with issues like these, the Reasons You're A Software Developer offer little comfort. It just goes to show that whatever you build will *never* work on every system out there and there is no substitute for, as Klaus Major says, Test, test, test. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problems with Rev and Apple's Bluetooth wireless keyboard (??)
On 6/10/05, Jim MacConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I have a 17 PB with a Bluetooth keyboard and shift, option and control key downs work just fine in mouse up handlers. So it isn't a generic problem. It's true that some? bluetooth devices won't wake a Mac up if its asleep (as it has to be alert to listen) but other than that it shouldn't matter. Jim Jim, Thanks for that report. I wonder what's going on with mine then. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
