Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-13 Thread Pierre Sahores 
Hi Katir, Frank,...
Here are the pg conf files set of my OSX development box (PWB G4 1Ghz, 
768 Mo RAM, OSX 10.3.6) :


Best Regards, Pierre
Le 13 déc. 04, à 19:45, Sivakatirswami a écrit :
Frank, thanks for your patient responses
Still no go..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data 
-l logfile restart

nothing happens, activity monitor doesn't show any start postgres 
processes started.

So, I'm stumped at this moment.
Is there some other log that will tell give us any useful feed back on 
what is happening.

Pierre:  Yes, I suppose I could  do a complete re-install, but, since 
two days ago I *was* able to start the server and all that I did in 
the interim was to "touch" the pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf files, 
I *really* would like to fix this "manually" so that I get a grip on 
the issues and not simply "quit" and start over again.  though, if 
there is no definitive diagnostic then I may have not choice...

In the meantime I'm logging into our new server in Connecticutt where 
Postgres is running just fine and going through the tutorials via 
ssh...  creating test data bases and doing my "homework." (I'll have 
more to ask you about the rev ap server you installed after I get a 
little deeper into it...)

So, not having it running on my own machine is not a show stopper, 
just a nuisance.. normally I would be doing this kind of  R & D during 
hours when I am off line... now I have to do it during on-line hours= 
"eats my day job time." i.e. the time when I should be working on web 
design, content and team coordination etc.

Pierre, perhaps you could email me off list your own pg_hba.conf and 
postgresql.conf files that you are using on your OSX machine, I would 
install those and see if it works

Thanks!
Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.HimalayanAcademy.com,
www.HinduismToday.com
www.Gurudeva.org
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On Dec 13, 2004, at 7:18 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
This is trying to connect to PostgreSQL through a UNIX domain socket 
rather than TCP/IP.  This should still be working, but if not, try a 
command like this:

psql -h  -U  dbname

So, no I cannot even start up the server at all.
Did you check the activity monitor again to see if it was running or 
not?  The above given error message is a connectivity problem, any 
does not necessarily mean that the server is not running.
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-13 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr. 
Actually, I could probably delete that line from mine and not miss it 
at all.  That line is for IPv6 addressing support.

The "local" line is to enable UNIX local domain sockets.
The first "host" line (the one before all the "" stuff) is for the 
"localhost" address (which is typically implemented on a fake ethernet 
controller. referred to as a loopback device, independent of the actual 
ethernet card in your computer).

The second "host" line (with "" stuff) is for the "localhost" 
address with IPv6 support.

The third "host" line is one which I added myself; this one supports 
access from the actual ethernet card (IPv4 addressing).  "host all all" 
should be as I have placed it here.  192.168.0.5 is the static IP 
address of my machine (but really any IP address known to be on your 
subnet should work fine), and "255.255.255.0" is the subnet mask of the 
machine.  "password" as opposed to "trust" means that a password should 
be required ("trust" assumes that everyone is being truthful and does 
not demand a password).

This info may be of interest to anyone trying to set up PostgreSQL:  to 
access PostgreSQL from Rev, you need TCP/IP to be enabled in 
postgresql.conf (tcpip_socket = true); you also need a line in 
pg_hba.conf which dictates how authentication should be handled; for 
local access, the defaults should be fine, except that after setting 
your database user 'postgres' password, you should really change 
"trust" to "password" everywhere.  As for network access, you need to 
add a line similar to the one I did, otherwise connections from across 
the network will not be accepted.  Of course, if you don't want others 
to access PostgreSQL on your machine from across the network, don't add 
that line.

And yes, for the problem you are describing, best to post it to a 
PostgreSQL mailing list or forum.  This is getting too far OT for this 
list.

On Dec 13, 2004, at 3:15 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
I *had* deleted the line  with all the :::
but.. seeing this.. I reinserted it..think, so, my pg_hba.conf looks 
just like yours


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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-13 Thread Sivakatirswami 
OK, see previous memo on this...
I *had* deleted the line  with all the :::
but.. seeing this.. I reinserted it..think, so, my pg_hba.conf looks 
just like yours

but:
katir:/Users/katir postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data -l logfile restart

still fails, no error msg... just, nothing happens.
I guess i should take this to a postgres forum now... ? Thanks for you 
patience and help so far... at least i can start up via the postmaster 
(see previous memo)

Sivakatirswami
On Dec 13, 2004, at 9:20 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
Hmm.
The only non-comment lines in my pg_hba.conf are as follows:
# TYPE  DATABASEUSERIP-ADDRESSIP-MASK   
METHOD

local   all all 
password
# IPv4-style local connections:
hostall all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255   
password
# IPv6-style local connections:
hostall all ::1   
:::::::password

hostall all 192.168.0.5   255.255.255.0 
password

My postgresql.conf is stock from the installer at 
http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/postgresql/, except for 
uncommenting the tcpip_socket option and setting it to true.

And this is working fine.
When modifying these files, did you check to ensure that you did not 
modify permissions on the files/folders up to that point without 
switching them back?  Wrong permissions on the data directory and its 
contents will cause postgres to abort startup.

You should be able to get results similar to these (watch the mode 
bits for the data dir and its contents; note that your results may 
vary slightly in other ways, and probably will):

Frank-Engels-Computer:/usr/local/pgsql root# ls -l
total 120
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel155 15 Nov 11:44 .bash_history
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel135 15 Nov 11:42 .psql_history
drwx--  12 postgres  wheel408 13 Dec 08:16 data
  <--
drwxr-xr-x   3 postgres  wheel102 15 Nov 11:31 doc
drwxr-xr-x  22 postgres  wheel748 15 Nov 11:31 include
drwxr-xr-x  51 postgres  wheel   1734 15 Nov 11:31 lib
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel  47761 13 Dec 08:16 logfile
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel   1338 26 Nov 22:28 postgres.log
drwxr-xr-x  13 postgres  wheel442 15 Nov 11:31 share
Frank-Engels-Computer:/usr/local/pgsql root# cd data/
Frank-Engels-Computer:/usr/local/pgsql/data root# ls -l
total 56
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel 4 15 Nov 11:38 PG_VERSION
drwx--   6 postgres  wheel   204 15 Nov 11:44 base
drwx--  22 postgres  wheel   748 13 Dec 08:16 global
drwx--   3 postgres  wheel   102 15 Nov 11:38 pg_clog
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel  3376 15 Nov 11:43 pg_hba.conf  
<--
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel  1441 15 Nov 11:38 pg_ident.conf
drwx--   5 postgres  wheel   170  6 Dec 17:42 pg_xlog
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel   15 Nov 11:43 postgresql.conf  
   <--
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel60 13 Dec 08:16 postmaster.opts
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel46 13 Dec 08:16 postmaster.pid
Frank-Engels-Computer:/usr/local/pgsql/data root#

On Dec 13, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
More on this...
I can start the dbase in the foreground..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data
LOG:  database system was shut down at 2004-12-13 08:56:00 HST
LOG:  checkpoint record is at 0/9E0780
LOG:  redo record is at 0/9E0780; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown TRUE
LOG:  next transaction ID: 551; next OID: 17153
LOG:  database system is ready

I see three postgres processes now in the activity monitor... but I 
can't find a way to issue commands to it from the cmd line.. there is 
no prompt after the last line above.


but

katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data -l logfile restart
doesn't work.. see below.

On Dec 13, 2004, at 8:45 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Frank, thanks for your patient responses
Still no go..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data -l logfile restart

nothing happens, activity monitor doesn't show any start postgres 
processes started.

So, I'm stumped at this moment.
Is there some other log that will tell give us any useful feed back 
on what is happening.

Pierre:  Yes, I suppose I could  do a complete re-install, but, 
since two days ago I *was* able to start the server and all that I 
did in the interim was to "touch" the pg_hba.conf and 
postgresql.conf files, I *really* would like to fix this "manually" 
so that I get a grip on the issues and not simply "quit" and start 
over again.  though, if there is no definitive diagnostic then I may 
have not choice...

In the meantime I'm logging into our new server in Connecticutt 
where Postgres is running just fine and going through the tutorials 
via ssh...  creating test data bases and doing my "homework." (I'll 
have more to ask you

Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-13 Thread Sivakatirswami 
Success, sort of -;)
Even though trying to start up with
/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl/ -D /usr/local/pgsql/data -l logfile restart
fails...
postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data
works and I can connect now with Revolution... obviously because we 
changed the postgresql.conf tcpip setting to "true"great!... And

 if I quit my shell sesson and open a new one I can immediately
% su postgres
./psql katir_test
and I get
Welcome to psql 7.4.5, the PostgreSQL interactive terminal.
etc...
I'm up and running in console mode as well... ;-)
but,
a)  I'm not sure if there are hidden issues that will be problematic 
later because I did not restart the server with pg_ctl and
b) this work around (booting the postmaster instead of running pg_ctl) 
begs the question of why

katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data 
-l logfile restart

fails...
Sivakatirswami



On Dec 13, 2004, at 9:03 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
More on this...
I can start the dbase in the foreground..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data
LOG:  database system was shut down at 2004-12-13 08:56:00 HST
LOG:  checkpoint record is at 0/9E0780
LOG:  redo record is at 0/9E0780; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown TRUE
LOG:  next transaction ID: 551; next OID: 17153
LOG:  database system is ready

I see three postgres processes now in the activity monitor... but I 
can't find a way to issue commands to it from the cmd line.. there is 
no prompt after the last line above.


but

katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data -l logfile restart
doesn't work.. see below.

On Dec 13, 2004, at 8:45 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Frank, thanks for your patient responses
Still no go..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data -l logfile restart

nothing happens, activity monitor doesn't show any start postgres 
processes started.

So, I'm stumped at this moment.
Is there some other log that will tell give us any useful feed back 
on what is happening.

Pierre:  Yes, I suppose I could  do a complete re-install, but, since 
two days ago I *was* able to start the server and all that I did in 
the interim was to "touch" the pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf files, 
I *really* would like to fix this "manually" so that I get a grip on 
the issues and not simply "quit" and start over again.  though, if 
there is no definitive diagnostic then I may have not choice...

In the meantime I'm logging into our new server in Connecticutt where 
Postgres is running just fine and going through the tutorials via 
ssh...  creating test data bases and doing my "homework." (I'll have 
more to ask you about the rev ap server you installed after I get a 
little deeper into it...)

So, not having it running on my own machine is not a show stopper, 
just a nuisance.. normally I would be doing this kind of  R & D 
during hours when I am off line... now I have to do it during on-line 
hours= "eats my day job time." i.e. the time when I should be working 
on web design, content and team coordination etc.

Pierre, perhaps you could email me off list your own pg_hba.conf and 
postgresql.conf files that you are using on your OSX machine, I would 
install those and see if it works

Thanks!
Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.HimalayanAcademy.com,
www.HinduismToday.com
www.Gurudeva.org
www.Hindu.org
On Dec 13, 2004, at 7:18 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
This is trying to connect to PostgreSQL through a UNIX domain socket 
rather than TCP/IP.  This should still be working, but if not, try a 
command like this:

psql -h  -U  dbname

So, no I cannot even start up the server at all.
Did you check the activity monitor again to see if it was running or 
not?  The above given error message is a connectivity problem, any 
does not necessarily mean that the server is not running.
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-13 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr. 
Hmm.
The only non-comment lines in my pg_hba.conf are as follows:
# TYPE  DATABASEUSERIP-ADDRESSIP-MASK   
METHOD

local   all all 
password
# IPv4-style local connections:
hostall all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255   
password
# IPv6-style local connections:
hostall all ::1   
:::::::password

hostall all 192.168.0.5   255.255.255.0 
password

My postgresql.conf is stock from the installer at 
http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/postgresql/, except for 
uncommenting the tcpip_socket option and setting it to true.

And this is working fine.
When modifying these files, did you check to ensure that you did not 
modify permissions on the files/folders up to that point without 
switching them back?  Wrong permissions on the data directory and its 
contents will cause postgres to abort startup.

You should be able to get results similar to these (watch the mode bits 
for the data dir and its contents; note that your results may vary 
slightly in other ways, and probably will):

Frank-Engels-Computer:/usr/local/pgsql root# ls -l
total 120
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel155 15 Nov 11:44 .bash_history
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel135 15 Nov 11:42 .psql_history
drwx--  12 postgres  wheel408 13 Dec 08:16 data 
 <--
drwxr-xr-x   3 postgres  wheel102 15 Nov 11:31 doc
drwxr-xr-x  22 postgres  wheel748 15 Nov 11:31 include
drwxr-xr-x  51 postgres  wheel   1734 15 Nov 11:31 lib
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel  47761 13 Dec 08:16 logfile
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel   1338 26 Nov 22:28 postgres.log
drwxr-xr-x  13 postgres  wheel442 15 Nov 11:31 share
Frank-Engels-Computer:/usr/local/pgsql root# cd data/
Frank-Engels-Computer:/usr/local/pgsql/data root# ls -l
total 56
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel 4 15 Nov 11:38 PG_VERSION
drwx--   6 postgres  wheel   204 15 Nov 11:44 base
drwx--  22 postgres  wheel   748 13 Dec 08:16 global
drwx--   3 postgres  wheel   102 15 Nov 11:38 pg_clog
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel  3376 15 Nov 11:43 pg_hba.conf   
   <--
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel  1441 15 Nov 11:38 pg_ident.conf
drwx--   5 postgres  wheel   170  6 Dec 17:42 pg_xlog
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel   15 Nov 11:43 postgresql.conf   
  <--
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel60 13 Dec 08:16 postmaster.opts
-rw---   1 postgres  wheel46 13 Dec 08:16 postmaster.pid
Frank-Engels-Computer:/usr/local/pgsql/data root#

On Dec 13, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
More on this...
I can start the dbase in the foreground..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data
LOG:  database system was shut down at 2004-12-13 08:56:00 HST
LOG:  checkpoint record is at 0/9E0780
LOG:  redo record is at 0/9E0780; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown TRUE
LOG:  next transaction ID: 551; next OID: 17153
LOG:  database system is ready

I see three postgres processes now in the activity monitor... but I 
can't find a way to issue commands to it from the cmd line.. there is 
no prompt after the last line above.


but

katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data -l logfile restart
doesn't work.. see below.

On Dec 13, 2004, at 8:45 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Frank, thanks for your patient responses
Still no go..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data -l logfile restart

nothing happens, activity monitor doesn't show any start postgres 
processes started.

So, I'm stumped at this moment.
Is there some other log that will tell give us any useful feed back 
on what is happening.

Pierre:  Yes, I suppose I could  do a complete re-install, but, since 
two days ago I *was* able to start the server and all that I did in 
the interim was to "touch" the pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf files, 
I *really* would like to fix this "manually" so that I get a grip on 
the issues and not simply "quit" and start over again.  though, if 
there is no definitive diagnostic then I may have not choice...

In the meantime I'm logging into our new server in Connecticutt where 
Postgres is running just fine and going through the tutorials via 
ssh...  creating test data bases and doing my "homework." (I'll have 
more to ask you about the rev ap server you installed after I get a 
little deeper into it...)

So, not having it running on my own machine is not a show stopper, 
just a nuisance.. normally I would be doing this kind of  R & D 
during hours when I am off line... now I have to do it during on-line 
hours= "eats my day job time." i.e. the time when I should be working 
on web design, content and team coordination etc.

Pierre, perhaps you could email me off list your own pg_hba.conf and 
postgresql.conf files that you are using on your OSX machine, I would 
install those and see if

Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-13 Thread Sivakatirswami 
Frank, thanks for your patient responses
Still no go..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data 
-l logfile restart

nothing happens, activity monitor doesn't show any start postgres 
processes started.

So, I'm stumped at this moment.
Is there some other log that will tell give us any useful feed back on 
what is happening.

Pierre:  Yes, I suppose I could  do a complete re-install, but, since 
two days ago I *was* able to start the server and all that I did in the 
interim was to "touch" the pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf files, I 
*really* would like to fix this "manually" so that I get a grip on the 
issues and not simply "quit" and start over again.  though, if there is 
no definitive diagnostic then I may have not choice...

In the meantime I'm logging into our new server in Connecticutt where 
Postgres is running just fine and going through the tutorials via 
ssh...  creating test data bases and doing my "homework." (I'll have 
more to ask you about the rev ap server you installed after I get a 
little deeper into it...)

So, not having it running on my own machine is not a show stopper, just 
a nuisance.. normally I would be doing this kind of  R & D during hours 
when I am off line... now I have to do it during on-line hours= "eats 
my day job time." i.e. the time when I should be working on web design, 
content and team coordination etc.

Pierre, perhaps you could email me off list your own pg_hba.conf and 
postgresql.conf files that you are using on your OSX machine, I would 
install those and see if it works

Thanks!
Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.HimalayanAcademy.com,
www.HinduismToday.com
www.Gurudeva.org
www.Hindu.org
On Dec 13, 2004, at 7:18 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
This is trying to connect to PostgreSQL through a UNIX domain socket 
rather than TCP/IP.  This should still be working, but if not, try a 
command like this:

psql -h  -U  dbname

So, no I cannot even start up the server at all.
Did you check the activity monitor again to see if it was running or 
not?  The above given error message is a connectivity problem, any 
does not necessarily mean that the server is not running.
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-13 Thread Sivakatirswami 
More on this...
I can start the dbase in the foreground..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D 
/usr/local/pgsql/data
LOG:  database system was shut down at 2004-12-13 08:56:00 HST
LOG:  checkpoint record is at 0/9E0780
LOG:  redo record is at 0/9E0780; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown TRUE
LOG:  next transaction ID: 551; next OID: 17153
LOG:  database system is ready

I see three postgres processes now in the activity monitor... but I 
can't find a way to issue commands to it from the cmd line.. there is 
no prompt after the last line above.


but

katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data 
-l logfile restart
doesn't work.. see below.

On Dec 13, 2004, at 8:45 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Frank, thanks for your patient responses
Still no go..
katir:~ postgres$ /usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data 
-l logfile restart

nothing happens, activity monitor doesn't show any start postgres 
processes started.

So, I'm stumped at this moment.
Is there some other log that will tell give us any useful feed back on 
what is happening.

Pierre:  Yes, I suppose I could  do a complete re-install, but, since 
two days ago I *was* able to start the server and all that I did in 
the interim was to "touch" the pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf files, 
I *really* would like to fix this "manually" so that I get a grip on 
the issues and not simply "quit" and start over again.  though, if 
there is no definitive diagnostic then I may have not choice...

In the meantime I'm logging into our new server in Connecticutt where 
Postgres is running just fine and going through the tutorials via 
ssh...  creating test data bases and doing my "homework." (I'll have 
more to ask you about the rev ap server you installed after I get a 
little deeper into it...)

So, not having it running on my own machine is not a show stopper, 
just a nuisance.. normally I would be doing this kind of  R & D during 
hours when I am off line... now I have to do it during on-line hours= 
"eats my day job time." i.e. the time when I should be working on web 
design, content and team coordination etc.

Pierre, perhaps you could email me off list your own pg_hba.conf and 
postgresql.conf files that you are using on your OSX machine, I would 
install those and see if it works

Thanks!
Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.HimalayanAcademy.com,
www.HinduismToday.com
www.Gurudeva.org
www.Hindu.org
On Dec 13, 2004, at 7:18 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
This is trying to connect to PostgreSQL through a UNIX domain socket 
rather than TCP/IP.  This should still be working, but if not, try a 
command like this:

psql -h  -U  dbname

So, no I cannot even start up the server at all.
Did you check the activity monitor again to see if it was running or 
not?  The above given error message is a connectivity problem, any 
does not necessarily mean that the server is not running.
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-13 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr. 
On Dec 12, 2004, at 7:45 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
;-( things are getting worse instead of better. Now I seemed to have 
shot myself in the foot and cannot even get the postmaster/server to 
start up at all...let alone connect with rev... OK, following all the 
advice as bes as I can and also the postgres docshere's where i 
stand:

===
OK first of all Pierre was correct, after initdb on installtion, the 
pg_hba file was in fact automatically installed with two client 
authenticate records as follows:

pg_hba.conf
# TYPE  DATABASEUSERIP-ADDRESSIP-MASK   
METHOD

local   all all 
trust
# IPv4-style local connections:
hostall all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255   
trust

# I infer from this that "localhost" should work automatically, 
assuming we can start the server and tcp/ip connections are allowed...

So I then edited postmaster.conf and uncommented only three lines, 
tcpip, max_connections and port
These should all take on defaults, only the tcpip_socket value is 
wrong.  That is the only one you should need to uncomment, then set it 
to true.

Uncommenting the other lines certainly should not hurt, though...
# - Connection Settings -
tcpip_socket = true
max_connections = 50
# note: increasing max_connections costs about 500 bytes of 
shared
# memory per connection slot, in addition to costs from 
shared_buffers
# and max_locks_per_transaction.
#superuser_reserved_connections = 2
port = 5432
#unix_socket_directory = ''
#unix_socket_group = ''
#unix_socket_permissions = 0777 # octal
#virtual_host = ''  # what interface to listen on; 
defaults to any
#rendezvous_name = ''   # defaults to the computer name

# - Security & Authentication -
#authentication_timeout = 60# 1-600, in seconds
#ssl = false
#password_encryption = true
#krb_server_keyfile = ''
#db_user_namespace = false lines
(and more lines, all commented out)

OK, that seems to fulfill everyone's guidance... but:
katir:/usr/local/pgsql/data postgres$ pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data 
-i -l logfile start
This should have been "restart", not "start".  Also, you should not 
need to specify "-i" since the tcpip_socket=true option was given in 
postgresql.conf.


katir:/usr/local/pgsql/data postgres$
katir:/usr/local/pgsql/bin postgres$ ./psql katir_test
psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket "/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
katir:/usr/local/pgsql/bin postgres$
This is trying to connect to PostgreSQL through a UNIX domain socket 
rather than TCP/IP.  This should still be working, but if not, try a 
command like this:

psql -h  -U  dbname

So, no I cannot even start up the server at all.
Did you check the activity monitor again to see if it was running or 
not?  The above given error message is a connectivity problem, any does 
not necessarily mean that the server is not running.

??
Sivakatirswami

On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:08 AM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
Hi , in order to run thru a tcp/ip connection it has to be enabled 
first , to do so eithre you enable the tcp/ip or you start it
with an -I flag.
su - postgres
password
postgres% "/usr/local/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data –I" ( 
this is the -I flag you enter)
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-13 Thread Pierre Sahores 
Hello Katir,
If you run in troubles with the Postgres for Mac OS X installation 
process, take time to reinstall from scratch in using the Mark 
Liyanage's Postgres.DMG and How-to that you can find at 
.

Best Regards,
Pierre
Le 13 déc. 04, à 01:45, Sivakatirswami a écrit :
;-( things are getting worse instead of better. Now I seemed to have 
shot myself in the foot and cannot even get the postmaster/server to 
start up at all...let alone connect with rev... OK, following all the 
advice as bes as I can and also the postgres docshere's where i 
stand:

===
OK first of all Pierre was correct, after initdb on installtion, the 
pg_hba file was in fact automatically installed with two client 
authenticate records as follows:

pg_hba.conf
# TYPE  DATABASEUSERIP-ADDRESSIP-MASK   
METHOD

local   all all 
trust
# IPv4-style local connections:
hostall all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255   
trust

# I infer from this that "localhost" should work automatically, 
assuming we can start the server and tcp/ip connections are allowed...

So I then edited postmaster.conf and uncommented only three lines, 
tcpip, max_connections and port

# - Connection Settings -
tcpip_socket = true
max_connections = 50
# note: increasing max_connections costs about 500 bytes of 
shared
# memory per connection slot, in addition to costs from 
shared_buffers
# and max_locks_per_transaction.
#superuser_reserved_connections = 2
port = 5432
#unix_socket_directory = ''
#unix_socket_group = ''
#unix_socket_permissions = 0777 # octal
#virtual_host = ''  # what interface to listen on; 
defaults to any
#rendezvous_name = ''   # defaults to the computer name

# - Security & Authentication -
#authentication_timeout = 60# 1-600, in seconds
#ssl = false
#password_encryption = true
#krb_server_keyfile = ''
#db_user_namespace = false lines
(and more lines, all commented out)

OK, that seems to fulfill everyone's guidance... but:
katir:/usr/local/pgsql/data postgres$ pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data 
-i -l logfile start
katir:/usr/local/pgsql/data postgres$

katir:/usr/local/pgsql/bin postgres$ ./psql katir_test
psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket "/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
katir:/usr/local/pgsql/bin postgres$
So, no I cannot even start up the server at all.
??
Sivakatirswami

On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:08 AM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
Hi , in order to run thru a tcp/ip connection it has to be enabled 
first , to do so eithre you enable the tcp/ip or you start it
with an -I flag.
su - postgres
password
postgres% "/usr/local/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data –I" ( 
this is the -I flag you enter)
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-12 Thread Sivakatirswami 
;-( things are getting worse instead of better. Now I seemed to have 
shot myself in the foot and cannot even get the postmaster/server to 
start up at all...let alone connect with rev... OK, following all the 
advice as bes as I can and also the postgres docshere's where i 
stand:

===
OK first of all Pierre was correct, after initdb on installtion, the 
pg_hba file was in fact automatically installed with two client 
authenticate records as follows:

pg_hba.conf
# TYPE  DATABASEUSERIP-ADDRESSIP-MASK   
METHOD

local   all all 
trust
# IPv4-style local connections:
hostall all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255   
trust

# I infer from this that "localhost" should work automatically, 
assuming we can start the server and tcp/ip connections are allowed...

So I then edited postmaster.conf and uncommented only three lines, 
tcpip, max_connections and port

# - Connection Settings -
tcpip_socket = true
max_connections = 50
# note: increasing max_connections costs about 500 bytes of 
shared
# memory per connection slot, in addition to costs from 
shared_buffers
# and max_locks_per_transaction.
#superuser_reserved_connections = 2
port = 5432
#unix_socket_directory = ''
#unix_socket_group = ''
#unix_socket_permissions = 0777 # octal
#virtual_host = ''  # what interface to listen on; defaults 
to any
#rendezvous_name = ''   # defaults to the computer name

# - Security & Authentication -
#authentication_timeout = 60# 1-600, in seconds
#ssl = false
#password_encryption = true
#krb_server_keyfile = ''
#db_user_namespace = false lines
(and more lines, all commented out)

OK, that seems to fulfill everyone's guidance... but:
katir:/usr/local/pgsql/data postgres$ pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data 
-i -l logfile start
katir:/usr/local/pgsql/data postgres$

katir:/usr/local/pgsql/bin postgres$ ./psql katir_test
psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory
Is the server running locally and accepting
connections on Unix domain socket "/tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
katir:/usr/local/pgsql/bin postgres$
So, no I cannot even start up the server at all.
??
Sivakatirswami

On Dec 12, 2004, at 9:08 AM, Hershel Fisch wrote:
Hi , in order to run thru a tcp/ip connection it has to be enabled 
first , to do so eithre you enable the tcp/ip or you start it
with an -I flag.
su - postgres
password
postgres% "/usr/local/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data –I" ( 
this is the -I flag you enter)
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-12 Thread Hershel Fisch 
On Friday, December 10, 2004, at 11:51 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Alright... I've successfully installed PostGreSQL on my mac... in the  
terminal it's up and running, I've created a database and just now did

select * from taskroster
and got my two test rows returned... but..
in the Mac's activity monitor... i don't see a process named "Postgres"
just the tcsh shell I have open to talk to Postgres...
And also, in rev, this fails:
 put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","localhost","katir_test","postgres","myPas 
sWord")

could not connect to server: Connection refused
Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
Hi , in order to run thru a tcp/ip connection it has to be enabled  
first , to do so eithre you enable the tcp/ip or you start it
with an -I flag.
su - postgres
password
postgres% "/usr/local/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data –I" (  
this is the -I flag you enter)
Hershel Fisch


my computer name on the lan is "katir.hindu.org"  but
 put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","katir.hindu.org","katir_test","postgres", 
"myPassWord")

does not work either..
I'm sure this must be simple...
TIA
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-11 Thread Sivakatirswami 
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
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On Dec 11, 2004, at 6:38 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
You shoud note that the server is not one of the "My Processes" in the  
activity monitor.  Show "Other User Processes" or "All Processes" and  
a process name of "postgres" should be listed three times.
;-) "such a novice am i"
OK great, yes: "Other User Processes" show three  and Andre's console  
test:

Last login: Fri Dec 10 18:24:45 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
[katir:~] katir% ps -auxc |grep "post"
postgres  5559   0.0  0.138040980 std- SFri03PM   0:00.07  
postmaster
postgres  5562   0.0  0.035308184 std- SFri03PM   0:00.00  
postgres:
postgres  5563   0.0  0.034320272 std- SFri03PM   0:00.01  
postgres:
[katir:~] katir%

shows we are indeed up and running, as we suspected since all things  
are working from the cmd line.


I find it highly unlikely that the server is not running if you were  
able to execute a query; being able to communicate with the server is  
generally an indication that it is running ;-)



just the tcsh shell I have open to talk to Postgres...
And also, in rev, this fails:
 put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","localhost","katir_test","postgres","myP 
assWord")

could not connect to server: Connection refused
Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
About the TCP/IP connections, they are set by default for the  
localhost only (and it enought to feet the app server needs..). You  
can if needed tune this in modifying the needed line in the  
"postgresql.conf" file.
No, this is *not* the default for the current release versions of  
PostgreSQL.  By default, TCP/IP connections (the only kind you can  
make to PostgreSQL through Rev) are disabled.  You need to make  
changes in two files in the data directory of PostgreSQL:

You need to enable TCP/IP connections in postgresql.conf, and you need  
to configure your authentication settings in pg_hba.conf.

This is not described on the page listed below, but is mentioned in  
the PostgreSQL documentation; for details see:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/static/client-authentication.html
Thanks... I'll check it out and let you all know what happens.
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-11 Thread Andre Garzia 
go to your terminal, type:
ps -auxc | grep "post"
it will list postgre if it is running. My postgre process is called 
postmaster I think not postgreSQL... anyway the above shell command 
will catch postgre, postmaster, whatever contains post

On Dec 11, 2004, at 2:38 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
You shoud note that the server is not one of the "My Processes" in the 
activity monitor.  Show "Other User Processes" or "All Processes" and 
a process name of "postgres" should be listed three times.

I find it highly unlikely that the server is not running if you were 
able to execute a query; being able to communicate with the server is 
generally an indication that it is running ;-)
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-11 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr. 
On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:05 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:
Hello Katir,
Le 11 déc. 04, à 05:51, Sivakatirswami a écrit :
Alright... I've successfully installed PostGreSQL on my mac... in the  
terminal it's up and running, I've created a database and just now  
did

select * from taskroster
and got my two test rows returned... but..
in the Mac's activity monitor... i don't see a process named  
"Postgres"
Need to be visible there (3 lines of postgres processes), else the  
server is not running.

Did you use the best Mac OS X suited installer available all around at  
. Else, it's the  
best to do. Marc Liyanage explains all what need to be done to install  
and set up PostgreSQL on our Macs, where the Apple's official page is  
mainly "approximative"...
You shoud note that the server is not one of the "My Processes" in the  
activity monitor.  Show "Other User Processes" or "All Processes" and a  
process name of "postgres" should be listed three times.

I find it highly unlikely that the server is not running if you were  
able to execute a query; being able to communicate with the server is  
generally an indication that it is running ;-)



just the tcsh shell I have open to talk to Postgres...
And also, in rev, this fails:
 put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","localhost","katir_test","postgres","myPa 
ssWord")

could not connect to server: Connection refused
Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
About the TCP/IP connections, they are set by default for the  
localhost only (and it enought to feet the app server needs..). You  
can if needed tune this in modifying the needed line in the  
"postgresql.conf" file.
No, this is *not* the default for the current release versions of  
PostgreSQL.  By default, TCP/IP connections (the only kind you can make  
to PostgreSQL through Rev) are disabled.  You need to make changes in  
two files in the data directory of PostgreSQL:

You need to enable TCP/IP connections in postgresql.conf, and you need  
to configure your authentication settings in pg_hba.conf.

This is not described on the page listed below, but is mentioned in the  
PostgreSQL documentation; for details see:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/static/client-authentication.html

my computer name on the lan is "katir.hindu.org"  but
if you expect to run the connection inside a Rev application's  
server..., use this instead of your revOpenDatabase command :

 if PGLinkOpen is a number then get revdb_disconnect("projetsdac")
put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","katir.hindu.org","katir_test","postgres", 
"myPassWord") into PGLinkOpen
It's best to send it once only in app server mode (when it start) and  
for each new request in CGI mode. Use PGLinkOpen as a global value.
Personally, I like to use a custom property for this:
set the database of this stack to revOpenDatabase(...)
if the database of this stack is not a number then
  answer error "Failed to connect to the database." & the lineDelimiter  
& the lineDelimiter & the database of this stack titled "Connection  
Failure"
  quit
end if


 put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","katir.hindu.org","katir_test","postgres" 
,"myPassWord")

does not work either..
Let us know how it goes...
Best, Pierre
I'm sure this must be simple...
TIA
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Re: Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-11 Thread Pierre Sahores 
Hello Katir,
Le 11 déc. 04, à 05:51, Sivakatirswami a écrit :
Alright... I've successfully installed PostGreSQL on my mac... in the  
terminal it's up and running, I've created a database and just now did

select * from taskroster
and got my two test rows returned... but..
in the Mac's activity monitor... i don't see a process named "Postgres"
Need to be visible there (3 lines of postgres processes), else the  
server is not running.

Did you use the best Mac OS X suited installer available all around at  
. Else, it's the  
best to do. Marc Liyanage explains all what need to be done to install  
and set up PostgreSQL on our Macs, where the Apple's official page is  
mainly "approximative"...

just the tcsh shell I have open to talk to Postgres...
And also, in rev, this fails:
 put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","localhost","katir_test","postgres","myPas 
sWord")

could not connect to server: Connection refused
Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
About the TCP/IP connections, they are set by default for the localhost  
only (and it enought to feet the app server needs..). You can if needed  
tune this in modifying the needed line in the "postgresql.conf" file.
my computer name on the lan is "katir.hindu.org"  but
if you expect to run the connection inside a Rev application's  
server..., use this instead of your revOpenDatabase command :

 if PGLinkOpen is a number then get revdb_disconnect("projetsdac")
put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","katir.hindu.org","katir_test","postgres"," 
myPassWord") into PGLinkOpen
It's best to send it once only in app server mode (when it start) and  
for each new request in CGI mode. Use PGLinkOpen as a global value.

 put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","katir.hindu.org","katir_test","postgres", 
"myPassWord")

does not work either..
Let us know how it goes...
Best, Pierre
I'm sure this must be simple...
TIA
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Connecting to PostGreSQL on same machine: Mac OSX

2004-12-10 Thread Sivakatirswami 
Alright... I've successfully installed PostGreSQL on my mac... in the  
terminal it's up and running, I've created a database and just now did

select * from taskroster
and got my two test rows returned... but..
in the Mac's activity monitor... i don't see a process named "Postgres"
just the tcsh shell I have open to talk to Postgres...
And also, in rev, this fails:
 put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","localhost","katir_test","postgres","myPass 
Word")

could not connect to server: Connection refused
Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting
TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
my computer name on the lan is "katir.hindu.org"  but
 put  
revOpenDatabase("Postgresql","katir.hindu.org","katir_test","postgres"," 
myPassWord")

does not work either..
I'm sure this must be simple...
TIA
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
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