Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
on startup put the effective filename of me into thePath put the files into theList filter theList with *.rev put line 1 of theList into theStack put the short name of me into theStandalone hide this stack go stack theStack if the result then show stack theStack put theStack return into field error put the result after field error beep pass startup end if send closeme to stack theStandalone in 1 second end startup on closeMe close this stack end closeMe On 18 Nov 2010, at 18:19, Bob Sneidar wrote: Just thot I'd say, the player was one of the selling points for me. To be able to distribute a stack I made for the company I work for, along with a player, without having to futz with all the idiosyncrasies of standalones was very appealing. I was disappointed when support for the player went away. Bob On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Joseba Aguayo wrote: No Jacqueline, no. The support team respond me this: Dear Joseba Aguayo, Thank you for your request. If you are referring to the old DreamCard Revolution Player, it is no longer supported or available. If you mean the Web Plugin, that is here: http://revweb.runrev.com I hope this helps, Regards, Heather - Is incredible Un saludo. Joseba Aguayo Fernández (jagu...@telur.es) On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:58 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
Eheh. Of course. DOH! Bob On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:56 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: on startup put the effective filename of me into thePath put the files into theList filter theList with *.rev put line 1 of theList into theStack put the short name of me into theStandalone hide this stack go stack theStack if the result then show stack theStack put theStack return into field error put the result after field error beep pass startup end if send closeme to stack theStandalone in 1 second end startup on closeMe close this stack end closeMe On 18 Nov 2010, at 18:19, Bob Sneidar wrote: Just thot I'd say, the player was one of the selling points for me. To be able to distribute a stack I made for the company I work for, along with a player, without having to futz with all the idiosyncrasies of standalones was very appealing. I was disappointed when support for the player went away. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
Just thot I'd say, the player was one of the selling points for me. To be able to distribute a stack I made for the company I work for, along with a player, without having to futz with all the idiosyncrasies of standalones was very appealing. I was disappointed when support for the player went away. Bob On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Joseba Aguayo wrote: No Jacqueline, no. The support team respond me this: Dear Joseba Aguayo, Thank you for your request. If you are referring to the old DreamCard Revolution Player, it is no longer supported or available. If you mean the Web Plugin, that is here: http://revweb.runrev.com I hope this helps, Regards, Heather - Is incredible Un saludo. Joseba Aguayo Fernández (jagu...@telur.es) On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:58 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
Kaixo: How it's possible that RunRev delete the Revolution Player from his Web?? Update the software, but don't delete old files that your client use! This is a serious company? Un saludo. Joseba Aguayo Fernández (jagu...@telur.es) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
On 11/17/2010 11:23 AM, Joseba Aguayo wrote: Kaixo: How it's possible that RunRev delete the Revolution Player from his Web?? Update the software, but don't delete old files that your client use! This is a serious company? Un saludo. Joseba Aguayo Fernández (jagu...@telur.es) ___ The whole situation is all rather odd: Prior to RunRev changing the name of their product to Livecode quite a range of earlier versions of Runtime Revolution were available for download; presumably as a service to people whose backups have gone screwy; and a very nice and friendly service it was too - in keeping with the very nice and friendly image RunRev projected in general. As soon as Runtime Revolution changed to Livecode all those downloads vanished: this reminds me of all those popular revolutions that, like Chronos, ate their own children once power had been established. It might not be a bad idea to remember what subsequently happened to Chronos and Robespierre. As I am a natural conservative sort of fellow (i.e. I conserve all sorts of odds and ends in case I may need them later) I have burnt all the variants of RevStudio 4 as well as quite a few earlier recensions, onto CDs, external hard drives and so on - so I can be a revolutionary backslider should I choose. Yours, Sanson, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
On 11/17/10 3:23 AM, Joseba Aguayo wrote: Kaixo: How it's possible that RunRev delete the Revolution Player from his Web?? Update the software, but don't delete old files that your client use! This is a serious company? They are not deleted, but are no longer supported so they aren't on the web site. Write to supp...@runrev.com and they will give you a download link. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
On 11/16/2010 12:44 PM, Joseba Aguayo wrote: Hello: Beware with RunRev This is the incredible answer of the RunRev service support : Dear Joseba Aguayo, Thank you for your request. If you are referring to the old DreamCard Revolution Player, it is no longer supported or available. If you mean the Web Plugin, that is here: http://revweb.runrev.com I hope this helps, Regards, -- Help, Help. I need a Revolution Player for Mac and Windows. RunRev with its anxieties to update something, has eaten it. I cannot believe it. I suspect that a lot of the current problems are summed up in that marvellous phrase RunRev with its anxieties to update Funnily enough, I have put off releasing my Devawriter Pro because I suffer from a different set of anxieties: I don't want to release software where end-users will point out 4 years later that some bugs are still there. I have a fantasy: a version of RR/LC that is not heaving with a super-set of fancy but rarely used capabilities, but where 99% of the stagnating bug-reports have been sorted out. Un saludo. Joseba Aguayo Fernández (jagu...@telur.es) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
Hi Joseba, you could use Ken Ray´s stackrunner instead http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm Regards, Matthia Am 15.11.2010 um 09:23 schrieb Joseba Aguayo: Hello: I have a similar problem. I send an email to supp...@runrev.com, with the question Where can I download the revolution player? and nobody respond the question. What happen in runrev.com? Un saludo. Joseba Aguayo Fernández (jagu...@telur.es) On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:16 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Hi all, I've asked support to tell me where I can get a new copy of Rev 4.0.0, but sometimes they take forever to respond. Do any of you have a link to the proper download site? TIA, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
On 11/16/2010 01:28 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi Joseba, you could use Ken Ray´s stackrunner instead http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm Regards, Matthia Thanks: I have just downloaded all the versions of StackRunner (2.0 and 1.3) to add to my special RunRev resources external hard drive. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
Thanks Matthias. Are you in the RunRev support team? Perhaps NO, but you solve the problem. (The RunRev support team create problems) Eskerrik asko Matthias. Un saludo. Joseba Aguayo Fernández (jagu...@telur.es) On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:01 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Hi Joseba, you could use Ken Ray´s stackrunner instead http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm Regards, Matthia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
I love how unconnected discussions come together! I just downloaded stackrunner and it seems to solve all my issues regarding standalone startup banners/using test files versus live files. I point it to my application .rev file and it runs it as if it were a standalone, opening the live application database instead of the test one, but with no banner of any sort. The only downside is that the OSX menubar item for the aplication says StackRunner instead of my application's name. So while I'm a happy camper, this seems to completely circumvent Revoution's plan to strongly discourage commercial distribution of LiveCode Personal applications via the startup banner or am I missing something? Pete Haworth On Nov 16, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Richmond wrote: On 11/16/2010 01:28 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi Joseba, you could use Ken Ray´s stackrunner instead http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm Regards, Matthia Thanks: I have just downloaded all the versions of StackRunner (2.0 and 1.3) to add to my special RunRev resources external hard drive. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
On 11/16/2010 08:04 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I love how unconnected discussions come together! I just downloaded stackrunner and it seems to solve all my issues regarding standalone startup banners/using test files versus live files. I point it to my application .rev file and it runs it as if it were a standalone, opening the live application database instead of the test one, but with no banner of any sort. The only downside is that the OSX menubar item for the aplication says StackRunner instead of my application's name. So while I'm a happy camper, really? I am afraid that at present I feel that RunRev are camping things up a bit; so who is camper than whom can be the next direction this discussion takes. this seems to completely circumvent Revoution's plan to strongly discourage commercial distribution of LiveCode Personal applications via the startup banner or am I missing something? Frankly, distributing a stack with a stackrunner as a commercial package doesn't look that good; especially as anybody who can get their paws (sweaty or otherwise) on a copy of RR/LC can merrily start mucking around with your stack. Pete Haworth On Nov 16, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Richmond wrote: On 11/16/2010 01:28 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi Joseba, you could use Ken Ray´s stackrunner instead http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm Regards, Matthia Thanks: I have just downloaded all the versions of StackRunner (2.0 and 1.3) to add to my special RunRev resources external hard drive. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Richmond wrote: On 11/16/2010 08:04 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I love how unconnected discussions come together! I just downloaded stackrunner and it seems to solve all my issues regarding standalone startup banners/using test files versus live files. I point it to my application .rev file and it runs it as if it were a standalone, opening the live application database instead of the test one, but with no banner of any sort. The only downside is that the OSX menubar item for the aplication says StackRunner instead of my application's name. So while I'm a happy camper, really? I am afraid that at present I feel that RunRev are camping things up a bit; so who is camper than whom can be the next direction this discussion takes. Sounds like we need to establish a scale of camp-ness this seems to completely circumvent Revoution's plan to strongly discourage commercial distribution of LiveCode Personal applications via the startup banner or am I missing something? Frankly, distributing a stack with a stackrunner as a commercial package doesn't look that good; especially as anybody who can get their paws (sweaty or otherwise) on a copy of RR/LC can merrily start mucking around with your stack. Agree with that. That's one of the reasons I've never liked using a secondary stack file as a solution to the problem of not being able to store data in a standalone. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
On 11/16/2010 09:34 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Richmond wrote: On 11/16/2010 08:04 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I love how unconnected discussions come together! I just downloaded stackrunner and it seems to solve all my issues regarding standalone startup banners/using test files versus live files. I point it to my application .rev file and it runs it as if it were a standalone, opening the live application database instead of the test one, but with no banner of any sort. The only downside is that the OSX menubar item for the aplication says StackRunner instead of my application's name. So while I'm a happy camper, really? I am afraid that at present I feel that RunRev are camping things up a bit; so who is camper than whom can be the next direction this discussion takes. Sounds like we need to establish a scale of camp-ness That reminds me of one of my favourite bits in the Bible; where Jezebel does her boyfriend with a tent peg. this seems to completely circumvent Revoution's plan to strongly discourage commercial distribution of LiveCode Personal applications via the startup banner or am I missing something? Frankly, distributing a stack with a stackrunner as a commercial package doesn't look that good; especially as anybody who can get their paws (sweaty or otherwise) on a copy of RR/LC can merrily start mucking around with your stack. Agree with that. That's one of the reasons I've never liked using a secondary stack file as a solution to the problem of not being able to store data in a standalone. I much prefer to store data in some sort of text file, even at the risk of it becoming orphaned. Naughty types can build themselves a version of Metacard and see what happens when they build standalones with that; although experience has taught me that it is almost more trouble than it is worth. I am sticking with RR 4.0 until I can actually make some money with my Devawriter so that I can buy something with a bit more oomph than the $99 version; or RunRev have changed their marketing model as they seem to on an annual basis. - Despite the Kind regards [semantically empty if ever it was] it should be clear by now that RunRev are more interested in the whales and the sharks than bottom feeders and crustaceans like myself. The claims to 'care' about the small men and women who use RR/LC on an everyday basis do sound increasingly hollow; the removal of RevMedia meant much much more than all the subsequent protestations. Now if RunRev see their target as the biggies why don't they just say so? rather than saying one thing that is rather different from what their marketing model says. It is this thing that annoys me. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
I never read that scripture. Must be Apocrypha. On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Richmond wrote: That reminds me of one of my favourite bits in the Bible; where Jezebel does her boyfriend with a tent peg. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
On 11/16/2010 10:55 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I never read that scripture. Must be Apocrypha. On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Richmond wrote: That reminds me of one of my favourite bits in the Bible; where Jezebel does her boyfriend with a tent peg. I am sorry; it was Jael who drove a tent peg through Sisera's head: But Jael, Heber's wife, picked up a tent peg and a hammer and went quietly to him while he lay fast asleep, exhausted. She drove the peg through his temple into the ground, and he died. [ Judges 4:20-22 ] It's been awhile; I gave up reading the Bible when I found RunRev . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
Frankly, distributing a stack with a stackrunner as a commercial package doesn't look that good; especially as anybody who can get their paws (sweaty or otherwise) on a copy of RR/LC can merrily start mucking around with your stack. Agree with that. That's one of the reasons I've never liked using a secondary stack file as a solution to the problem of not being able to store data in a standalone. You *can* of course password protect your stack, and on OS X you can put the stack inside the StackRunner bundle. And of course you can change the name of the StackRunner app and even modify its info.plist file on OS X to customize it even more - the only thing you can't do is eliminate the Get Info information since that's embedded in the resources of the executable. Just my 2 cents, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
Hi all, I've asked support to tell me where I can get a new copy of Rev 4.0.0, but sometimes they take forever to respond. Do any of you have a link to the proper download site? TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
Well, I've downloaded LC 4.5.1 and it builds the application. I've only checked the Mac version at this time, but there are definitely some things that don't work in the standalone as they do in the IDE mode. Cause for a lot of head scratching. Incidentally, for those who have less than perfect vision, the LC installer is almost impossible to read. Very Dark colors and small text; probably not white. I'd still like to know why the build with 4.0 hasn't worked. Joe Wilkins On Nov 12, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi all, I've asked support to tell me where I can get a new copy of Rev 4.0.0, but sometimes they take forever to respond. Do any of you have a link to the proper download site? TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
On 11/12/10 1:22 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I'dstill like to know why the build with 4.0 hasn't worked. The errors you got indicated that some of the files required for the build weren't in their default locations, so the standalone builder couldn't find them. The most likely reason is that either the support folders or the app were moved from where they were first installed. Re-installing would fix that, which is what you did when you installed 4.5.1. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
