Re: Fonts Unicode
On Jul 26, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Brad Borch wrote: 4. If the text pasted in is styled text from a Unicode font, the htmlText reflects this: font face=TITUS Cyberbit Basic lang=el#945;#946;#948;#966;#949;/font Note the lang='el' parameter. The el stands for Ellinas, which is the Greek word for... Greek. Presumably Rev looks at the range the character is in, determines what language it is, and sets this parameter accordingly. I get confused about what Rev thinks language means. In the unicode conversion names it seems to mean encoding scheme. Since this is pseudo-html, this may mean something else, but might mean encoding scheme. The codes are too high for any 8-bit encoding. One of the things I kept forgetting to do was set the language in the font property. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Fonts Unicode
I've been working through trying to figure out what takes precedence in the font applied to unicode text in a field. Here's what I found. Maybe this will help someone else avoid frustration. 1. For non-unicode text, the textFont of the object or its parent: the textFont of the stack the textFont of the group the textFont of the card the textFont of the object This setting applies to non-unicode text to which no specific inline style has been applied. 2. The htmlText of the text includes inline styles that allow fonts to be applied: font face=Arial size=18bde/b/font. 3. If Rev encounters unstyled unicode text, either by being pasted in or typing in with an alternate keyboard encoding, it converts it to a unicode font. The html of the text includes a font tag and the unicode entities: font face=Geneva lang=en-UC#945;#946;#948;#947;#949;/font 4. If the text pasted in is styled text from a Unicode font, the htmlText reflects this: font face=TITUS Cyberbit Basic lang=el#945;#946;#948;#966;#949;/font Note the lang='el' parameter. The el stands for Ellinas, which is the Greek word for... Greek. Presumably Rev looks at the range the character is in, determines what language it is, and sets this parameter accordingly. So it is possible to get extended characters by by setting the htmlText to include entities, or by setting the unicodeText. However, this does NOT change the actual font used; Revolution still uses whichever font it has determined is the unicode font. On the Mac, it appears to be using Lucida Grande. On the PC, it appears to be Arial. I cannot tell because the htmlText does not reflect the actual font used to show the unicode characters. Also, if you try to change the font of unicode text using the menu, the text gets converted back to single-byte characters. So, assuming I can install a unicode font on the user's machine, I'm still stuck because I have no way to force Rev to use that particular font. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
fonts unicode
I've been working through trying to figure out what takes precedence in the font applied to unicode text in a field. Here's what I found. Maybe this will help someone else avoid frustration. 1. For non-unicode text, the textFont of the object or its parent: the textFont of the stack the textFont of the group the textFont of the card the textFont of the object This setting applies to non-unicode text to which no specific inline style has been applied. 2. The htmlText of the text includes inline styles that allow fonts to be applied: font face=Arial size=18bde/b/font. 3. If Rev encounters unstyled unicode text, either by being pasted in or typing in with an alternate keyboard encoding, it converts it to a unicode font. The html of the text includes a font tag and the unicode entities: font face=Geneva lang=en-UC#945;#946;#948;#947;#949;/font 4. If the text pasted in is styled text from a Unicode font, the htmlText reflects this: font face=TITUS Cyberbit Basic lang=el#945;#946;#948;#966;#949;/font Note the lang='el' parameter. The el stands for Ellinas, which is the Greek word for... Greek. Presumably Rev looks at the range the character is in, determines what language it is, and sets this parameter accordingly. So it is possible to get extended characters by by setting the htmlText to include entities, or by setting the unicodeText. However, this does NOT change the actual font used; Revolution still uses whichever font it has determined is the unicode font. On the Mac, it appears to be using Lucida Grande. On the PC, it appears to be Arial. I cannot tell because the htmlText does not reflect the actual font used to show the unicode characters. Also, if you try to change the font of unicode text using the menu, the text gets converted back to single-byte characters. So, assuming I can install a unicode font on the user's machine, I'm still stuck because I have no way to force Rev to use that particular font. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fonts Unicode
On Jul 26, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Brad Borch wrote: So, assuming I can install a unicode font on the user's machine, I'm still stuck because I have no way to force Rev to use that particular font. This behavior in OS X 10.3 is not what I saw in 10.2: I tried several fonts with control pictures, which are not in Lucida Grande. In this case, using Unicode did not chose Lucida Grande, but one of them. Which one depended on which font was enabled. Also, if some fonts had only some, the font might still be chosen. The behavior was such that I thought I'd use imageSource if I ever got back to that project. What you see might be related to bugzilla 2493. In OX X 10.2 I think my tests were only with Lucida Grande. The control pictures were very ugly. I suspect that some OS test font was used for some reason. Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming and software ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fonts Unicode
On Jul 26, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Brad Borch wrote: Also, if you try to change the font of unicode text using the menu, the text gets converted back to single-byte characters. It would be nice if language was a separate property and not part of the font property. Then each can be changed independently. Or the IDE acted that way. (Actually, I'd personally rather do away with language and go strictly Unicode for everything. I probably don't understand all the consequences of asking for that. Unicode tries to handle round-trip conversion from and to other standards, so I think we would be happy with pasting strange encodings and with selecting any fonts--it would be usually transparent. For I/O we would want to convert, though.) Dar -- ** DSC (Dar Scott Consulting Dar's Lab) http://www.swcp.com/dsc/ Programming and software ** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
