Linux Version
I finally have an Ubuntu machine up after steering away after bad experiences with other distros, but I haven't tried RR on it yet. Does anyone have any impressions? 3.0 beta impressions also welcome. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Version
Hi Mikey, In using Rev 3.0.0 DP-8 to RC-2, all the tested platforms (see below) gived the same very good results (stability, speed, script editor/ debugger,...) and i don't think i will go back to Rev 2.9.0 anymore. Results of tests in native mode of a Rev n-tier app i'm working on : - Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 (client and server app components native devlopment platform) : App runs 100% OK - Win XP Pro SP2 (native client component deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK - Debian Etch x86 (native server component prefered deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK Results of tests as Sun's VirtualBox 1.6.2 virtual machines : - Win XP Pro SP2 (native client component deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK - Debian Etch x86 (native server component prefered deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK - Ubuntu 8.04 x86 (native server component possible deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK - openSuse 11 x86 (native server component possible deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK One more quick note : Even if i went in the past (1998/2004) using extensivelly Suse Linux to run critical apps in ASP mode, i'm yet lots more confortable with Debian (or - the Debian based - Ubuntu) than with the Netware openSuse 11 not so "up to date" distro... Best Regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 24 août 08 à 23:52, Mikey a écrit : I finally have an Ubuntu machine up after steering away after bad experiences with other distros, but I haven't tried RR on it yet. Does anyone have any impressions? 3.0 beta impressions also welcome. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Version
Pierre, Does RevPrintField work properly? Do virtual desktops work properly? Peter -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Linux-Version-tp19135238p19151516.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Version
Peter, Pierre, Does RevPrintField work properly? To be sure, could you send me a test stack of your own that i could use to verify and report the result ? Do virtual desktops work properly? Yes. Best Regards, Peter -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Linux-Version-tp19135238p19151516.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Version
Pierre always to amaze me :-D Pierre would you consider writing a little piece about deploying cross-platform n-tier solutions with Rev after this project is deployed. cheers andre On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Pierre Sahores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mikey, > > In using Rev 3.0.0 DP-8 to RC-2, all the tested platforms (see below) gived > the same very good results (stability, speed, script editor/debugger,...) > and i don't think i will go back to Rev 2.9.0 anymore. > > Results of tests in native mode of a Rev n-tier app i'm working on : > > - Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 (client and server app components native > devlopment platform) : App runs 100% OK > - Win XP Pro SP2 (native client component deployment platform) : App runs > 100% OK > - Debian Etch x86 (native server component prefered deployment platform) : > App runs 100% OK > > Results of tests as Sun's VirtualBox 1.6.2 virtual machines : > > - Win XP Pro SP2 (native client component deployment platform) : App runs > 100% OK > - Debian Etch x86 (native server component prefered deployment platform) : > App runs 100% OK > - Ubuntu 8.04 x86 (native server component possible deployment platform) : > App runs 100% OK > - openSuse 11 x86 (native server component possible deployment platform) : > App runs 100% OK > > One more quick note : Even if i went in the past (1998/2004) using > extensivelly Suse Linux to run critical apps in ASP mode, i'm yet lots more > confortable with Debian (or - the Debian based - Ubuntu) than with the > Netware openSuse 11 not so "up to date" distro... > > Best Regards, > -- > Pierre Sahores > mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 > www.sahores-conseil.com > > > Le 24 août 08 à 23:52, Mikey a écrit : > >> I finally have an Ubuntu machine up after steering away after bad >> experiences with other distros, but I haven't tried RR on it yet. >> >> Does anyone have any impressions? 3.0 beta impressions also welcome. >> >> -- >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth >> On the second day, God created the oceans. >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >> and did a little diving. >> And God said, "This is good." >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Version
As the must in about XTalk, IDE and RAD, in about AI versus BI, in about trigonometrics and vectorial drawing, in about n-tier without having to wait after Java wakes up,... Rev is always and again so greatly amazing us all in making our mind wider ;-) Pierre always to amaze me :-D Pierre would you consider writing a little piece about deploying cross-platform n-tier solutions with Rev after this project is deployed. Even if you will have to rewrite some of this to makes the result more readable, Andre ;-D Best, Pierre cheers andre On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Pierre Sahores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Mikey, In using Rev 3.0.0 DP-8 to RC-2, all the tested platforms (see below) gived the same very good results (stability, speed, script editor/ debugger,...) and i don't think i will go back to Rev 2.9.0 anymore. Results of tests in native mode of a Rev n-tier app i'm working on : - Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 (client and server app components native devlopment platform) : App runs 100% OK - Win XP Pro SP2 (native client component deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK - Debian Etch x86 (native server component prefered deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK Results of tests as Sun's VirtualBox 1.6.2 virtual machines : - Win XP Pro SP2 (native client component deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK - Debian Etch x86 (native server component prefered deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK - Ubuntu 8.04 x86 (native server component possible deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK - openSuse 11 x86 (native server component possible deployment platform) : App runs 100% OK One more quick note : Even if i went in the past (1998/2004) using extensivelly Suse Linux to run critical apps in ASP mode, i'm yet lots more confortable with Debian (or - the Debian based - Ubuntu) than with the Netware openSuse 11 not so "up to date" distro... Best Regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 24 août 08 à 23:52, Mikey a écrit : I finally have an Ubuntu machine up after steering away after bad experiences with other distros, but I haven't tried RR on it yet. Does anyone have any impressions? 3.0 beta impressions also welcome. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Version
Hello, Just one word about revPrintField (and revPrintText), both of them don't print accented and other special chars under Linux (Ubuntu). It's really a stopper if you need it. Best regards, ÉrIC Le 25 août 08 à 22:54, Peter Alcibiades a écrit : Pierre, Does RevPrintField work properly? Do virtual desktops work properly? Peter -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Linux-Version-tp19135238p19151516.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- My NeXT computer will Be a Mac too! -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
open source and the linux version
The reason for the economic power of the open source model is the possibility of derivative works. This is the underlying reason why, were one consulting to Rev, it would be one alternative one would advise exploring in depth. Not necessarily going down that route in the end. But certainly exploring at a deeper level than some of the reflex-reaction comments about Open Source seen here, and looking hard at how money can be made in that environment. Because how and whether it is possible to compete in an environment in which there are unlimited derivative works is the key issue facing the proprietary closed source software industry over the next ten years, for Rev just like anyone else. Its worse if you are, in Porter's phrase, potentially 'stuck in the middle' in terms of scale: not big enough to be a low cost producer, but getting too big to be a true niche only supplier. To understand the power of derivative works, look at what happened with PythonCard. The authors had a ready made scripting language in Python. Then they had a ready made widget set in wxPython. Their task in constructing PythonCard was fairly small scale. Look at MurgaLua as another example. The author had Lua, and he also had FLTK ready made and right there to hand. He just had to merge them. On the other hand, if you were wanting to develop a card-model language in the closed source environment, think what you would have to do. A scripting language, an IDE...it doesn't bear thinking about. But PythonCard was a manageable task because it is a derivative work. Exactly the kind of thing that the closed source model prevents and exists to prevent. Because this is just "exploiting someone else's work". Yes, and the Open Source movement positively aims at an environment in which this will happen. When people get free markets, they do not necessarily do what you would like with them, or what Marx or Ayn Rand said they should or would do. They don't vote how you might like, either. When some of you say on this forum that you wish 'Linux' would standardize on one distribution, preferably Ubuntu, this is what you are missing. Ubuntu was a derivative work on Debian. One of ten or twenty. Debian in turn is derivative on thousands of independently done applications. This is why there are hundreds of distributions on DistroWatch. Some people react to this by condemning the existence of all this choice as confusing - but it only exists because the market has produced and sustained it. People may not like it, but this is the power of the model, and this is why it is not going away. It is, contrary to the muddled feelings some people have about it, a typically free market phenomenon. It is people responding to the needs and desires of users. It is just that they are not responding in quite the way, and with the restricted motivations, that you were used to from the fifties and sixties, and that you wrongly think of as characterising open market behaviour. We also need to look at the end user. The situation the Rev Linux user finds himself in right now is a typical example of why end users move to open source applications. We are currently on 2.6.1, when the rest of the world is on 2.8 and rising. That is, they are two releases ahead of us. Increasingly, we can't participate. We cannot open stacks written in 2.7 and on. And, there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. We cannot even find out when and whether a new version is coming out. What are we to do? Probably be patient, and hope, and console ourselves with the thought that the people involved in Rev are very pleasant, the product is great, and one day it will all work out. In fact, the Linux beta will be out any day now. But at some point, some of us will also quietly open up a browser, drift over to Amazon, and order Hetland's wonderful book on Python. And while there, notice a very fine introductory book on Lua by Jung and Brown. And think to ourselves, yes, I need a bit of insurance just around now. After all, Hypercard was wonderful, had very nice people involved with it, and it did get orphaned, and there was nothing any of us could do about that, either Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: open source and the linux version
That's the feeling I get when I see the age of some of the bugs... Cheers, Luis. On 7 Jun 2007, at 10:39, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Snipped. But at some point, some of us will also quietly open up a browser, drift over to Amazon, and order Hetland's wonderful book on Python. And while there, notice a very fine introductory book on Lua by Jung and Brown. And think to ourselves, yes, I need a bit of insurance just around now. After all, Hypercard was wonderful, had very nice people involved with it, and it did get orphaned, and there was nothing any of us could do about that, either Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] altSQLite ships Linux Version and more...
You altSQLite users are in for a treat. The new Linux version is out and it's a FREE upgrade to existing altSQLite3 users! Check out the altSQLite website for details: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altSQLiteCover/default.htm Also, there's a new version of the Demo/Installer which installs the connector and QueryBuilder files correctly on Rev 2.7. Plus, Mac users now get a free update to altSQLite3 which fixes a few obscure bugs, and updates the SQLite version so it's more compatible with other open source SQLite products. Enjoy, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] altSQLite ships Linux Version and more...
On 14 Mar 2006, at 13:05, Chipp Walters wrote: Plus, Mac users now get a free update to altSQLite3 which fixes a few obscure bugs, and updates the SQLite version so it's more compatible with other open source SQLite products. Thanks Chipp, I'm very pleased with altSQLite3 - it makes database use with Rev about as easy as it could be. What with altBrowser, altFont and InterfaceDesigner I think that you've got a fairly indispensable group of utilities there! Karen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Looking for a portable Linux version of revMedia 4
Hi all, Recently i have been testing revWeb plugin and revMedia 4 in Puppy Linux 4.3 and noticed that, at least in my setup, they do not work at all. Maybe the video card have part of the culprit or the video drivers used in this version of Puppy. Does someone have created a portable version of revMedia 4 that i could copy in a Pendrive and test with different live versions of Linux (running directly from the CD)? Thanks in advance. alejandro ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
LiveCode Linux version: graphic effects issue with the name of a push button
Dear LC users, For the first time, I gave a try to the linux version of LiveCode (4.5.0). When I apply any graphic effect on a push button with the inspector, the name of the button disappears. What I'm doing wrong? (the showname property is well set to true) Thanks for any help. Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode Linux version: graphic effects issue with the name of a push button
Yes, I get this too. Always assumed it was a feature, just the way it works. How are you modifying the button graphic? What I have done is underlay a graphic with a transparent button not showing its name, but you'll have thought of that. Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/LiveCode-Linux-version-graphic-effects-issue-with-the-name-of-a-push-button-tp3021185p3021834.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode Linux version: graphic effects issue with the name of a push button
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Peter, Thanks for your reply. > Yes, I get this too. Always assumed it was a feature, just the way it works. This is working like a charm with windows and OS X, not on linux. > How are you modifying the button graphic? I tried with any graphic effects available in the inspector: dropShadow, innerShadow, etc. If the button has an icon, the icon is correctly displayed but not the name of the button. > What I have done is underlay a graphic with a transparent button not showing >its name, but you'll have > thought of that. Thanks for the suggestion. Another solution could consist to have a field with the name over the opaque button itself. After several tests I obtained the effect I expected for the three platforms. This is something to take in care for cross-platform projects. Thanks. Best regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode Linux version: graphic effects issue with the name of a push button
Zryip, another thing which is probably a Linux peculiarity, the DGH is asking should it do an upgrade. So you say yes, but then it can't open the file. Its probably permissions. The LC app is installed into /opt, and of course the user does not have write permissions in /opt, which is what the DGH will require. I'll have to try it as root but that's almost certainly what it is. No longer recall exactly how I got it to install in the first place, it was probably by copying into plug-ins as root. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/LiveCode-Linux-version-graphic-effects-issue-with-the-name-of-a-push-button-tp3021185p3022209.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode Linux version: graphic effects issue with the name of a push button
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: > > Zryip, another thing which is probably a Linux peculiarity, the DGH is asking > should it do an upgrade. So you say yes, but then it can't open the file. > > Its probably permissions. The LC app is installed into /opt, and of course > the user does not have write permissions in /opt, which is what the DGH will > require. I'll have to try it as root but that's almost certainly what it > is. No longer recall exactly how I got it to install in the first place, it > was probably by copying into plug-ins as root. Peter, You can define your own plugins folder and install DGH (or other plugins) in it with no problem of permissions. Follow these steps: 1) Create a folder in your disk to install additional LC stuff. For example a folder "My_LiveCode" located here: home/theslug/My_LiveCode 2) Check your LC preferences. In the "Files & memory" tab, you have the path for "User extensions". Select the folder you created in step 1). You should obtain something like: home/theslug/My_LiveCode 3) Quit LC 4) In the home/theslug/My_LiveCode folder, create a new folder named: Plugins (this name is case sensitive, so be sure to have P in uppercase) 5) Copy DGH in the Plugins folder located here: home/theslug/My_LiveCode/Plugins 6) Launch LC. DGH should ask for an update 7) Confirm the update. All should be working as expected. Best regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
