Re: No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !
Francis, One more small point. When I drop my files onto (would you believe it ?) a Lexar JumpDrive, and move to the PC, I find that I have twice the files I thought. I get the same number of Alias ? files, equivalent to the files I copied. How do I remove this problem ? I have simply ignored the files that whose names start with ._. I suspect these files contain the resource fork data -- if the file has any. Since Rev stacks have nothing in the resource fork, it shouldn't be an issue...and hasn't been for moi. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company A human being is a part of the whole, called by us Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest--a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty. -- Albert Einstein ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ._ files (was: No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !)
Francis, One more small point. When I drop my files onto (would you believe it ?) a Lexar JumpDrive, and move to the PC, I find that I have twice the files I thought. I get the same number of Alias ? files, equivalent to the files I copied. How do I remove this problem ? I have simply ignored the files that whose names start with ._. I suspect these files contain the resource fork data -- if the file has any. Since Rev stacks have nothing in the resource fork, it shouldn't be an issue...and hasn't been for moi. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company For those wondering about those ._ files, here is the explanation from the guilty party, Apple itself: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106510 For most files, these ._ are actually empty and in case of Rev stacks safely ditched. Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ._ files (was: No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !)
What this article doesn't say is what happens if you don't see both file, then what does not 'safely ignoring' the file do? Is it unsafe to delete the file in some cases? And how does the file get put back together? Does the OS know how to do this? The second new file has the name of the original file prefixed by a ._ and contains the resource fork of the original file. If you see both files, the ._ file can be safely ignored. Sometimes when deleting a file, the ._ component will not be deleted. If this occurs you can safely delete the ._ file. Tom On Mar 9, 2006, at 12:03 PM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Francis, One more small point. When I drop my files onto (would you believe it ?) a Lexar JumpDrive, and move to the PC, I find that I have twice the files I thought. I get the same number of Alias ? files, equivalent to the files I copied. How do I remove this problem ? I have simply ignored the files that whose names start with ._. I suspect these files contain the resource fork data -- if the file has any. Since Rev stacks have nothing in the resource fork, it shouldn't be an issue...and hasn't been for moi. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company For those wondering about those ._ files, here is the explanation from the guilty party, Apple itself: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106510 For most files, these ._ are actually empty and in case of Rev stacks safely ditched. Robert Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ._ files (was: No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !)
Those prefixed files are created everytime you copy something from HFS, HFS+ partitions to some flat file partition such as CDFS, Fat32, Ext2... The finder creates it so that it does not lose resource fork information. Deleting it might endanger your app depending on how the app was programed. On an app that makes heavy use of the resource fork for storing icons, images and stuff, you can be sure that deleting that file will break things. The finder will also reassemble the files as they are moved back onto HFS/HFS+ Cheers andre PS: Gotta love those ADC docs... On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: What this article doesn't say is what happens if you don't see both file, then what does not 'safely ignoring' the file do? Is it unsafe to delete the file in some cases? And how does the file get put back together? Does the OS know how to do this? The second new file has the name of the original file prefixed by a ._ and contains the resource fork of the original file. If you see both files, the ._ file can be safely ignored. Sometimes when deleting a file, the ._ component will not be deleted. If this occurs you can safely delete the ._ file. Tom On Mar 9, 2006, at 12:03 PM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Francis, One more small point. When I drop my files onto (would you believe it ?) a Lexar JumpDrive, and move to the PC, I find that I have twice the files I thought. I get the same number of Alias ? files, equivalent to the files I copied. How do I remove this problem ? I have simply ignored the files that whose names start with ._. I suspect these files contain the resource fork data -- if the file has any. Since Rev stacks have nothing in the resource fork, it shouldn't be an issue...and hasn't been for moi. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company For those wondering about those ._ files, here is the explanation from the guilty party, Apple itself: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106510 For most files, these ._ are actually empty and in case of Rev stacks safely ditched. Robert Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lazy River Software™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com Lazy River Metal Art™ - http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/metal.html Meeting Wear™ - http://www.cafepress.com/meetingwear Semantic Compaction Systems - http://www.minspeak.com SCIconics, LLC - http://www.sciconics.com/sciindex.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !
This is exactly the same problem I had with my students last week. Only neither one would open. Judy On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Rob Cozens wrote: Francis, One more small point. When I drop my files onto (would you believe it ?) a Lexar JumpDrive, and move to the PC, I find that I have twice the files I thought. I get the same number of Alias ? files, equivalent to the files I copied. How do I remove this problem ? I have simply ignored the files that whose names start with ._. I suspect these files contain the resource fork data -- if the file has any. Since Rev stacks have nothing in the resource fork, it shouldn't be an issue...and hasn't been for moi. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !
Hi to all, and thanks for your comments about the .xxx files when moving from Mac to PC, I think the name of the thread has now changed to What the h are these files ?. I more or less guessed what the files were. My problem is not what they are for, but HOW TO STOP THEM FROM BEING COPIED, when I move from Mac to PC. Simply because they are a PAIN ! Sometimes I copy folders with 200 or 300 files from my Mac to my PC, and I can tell you, ignoring these .xxx files is not as easy as it looks ! -Francis In the quantum world, what you see is what you get and nothing is real. The best you can hope for is a set of delusions that agree with one another ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !
Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: and thanks for your comments about the .xxx files when moving from Mac to PC, I think the name of the thread has now changed to What the h are these files ?. I more or less guessed what the files were. My problem is not what they are for, but HOW TO STOP THEM FROM BEING COPIED, when I move from Mac to PC. Simply because they are a PAIN ! Sometimes I copy folders with 200 or 300 files from my Mac to my PC, and I can tell you, ignoring these .xxx files is not as easy as it looks ! http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/ Good luck. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !
When you zip the files they are joined into one file, which in my experience, allows them to survive the transit through the many routers and other pieces of gear on the internet. This file is usually smaller than the sum of the parts as well so there are some time savings involved in zipping them as well. On Mar 8, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Thanks for the clarifications. I will zip my files now before transferring, although I would love to know WHY this solves problems. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !
I more or less guessed what the files were. My problem is not what they are for, but HOW TO STOP THEM FROM BEING COPIED, when I move from Mac to PC. Simply because they are a PAIN ! Sometimes I copy folders with 200 or 300 files from my Mac to my PC, and I can tell you, ignoring these .xxx files is not as easy as it looks ! -Francis A job for a nifty Rev plugin (or just a function) that zaps those files into oblivion given a folder path? Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
No OpenStack ..... ! Now Ending !
Hi Rob, Thanks for the clarifications. I will zip my files now before transferring, although I would love to know WHY this solves problems. One more small point. When I drop my files onto (would you believe it ?) a Lexar JumpDrive, and move to the PC, I find that I have twice the files I thought. I get the same number of Alias ? files, equivalent to the files I copied. How do I remove this problem ? Bets from Paris -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
