Re: Printing Again - gray background when printing
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No, they are correct; it is not a bug. The background is white on Mac
OS X by default, but under Windows, it is determined by color choices
the user makes in the control panel. The "gray" printing default is
maybe not ideal, but unless you explicitly specify a default color, you
aren't given any guarantees as to what color you will actually get.
You specify what you want, or you live with what you get.
And it is a feature, too: the default color is determined based on the
environment in which the image is being rendered; in this way, the
stack "blends in" with its environment. I agree that it makes more
sense to use a white background when printing, but it is not
unreasonable to require the user to specify this. Not at all.
On Jan 29, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Bill wrote:
Gray background when printing but not visible on the screen.
I bugzilla-ed this WYSIWYG failure and the bugzilla was marked as not
a bug.
I think the gray should show on the screen the same as it prints as it
is
annoying. I wish we could re-bugzilla this and get it fixed as I
believe
that it is definitely not a feature.
On 1/28/05 7:17 PM, "Frank D. Engel, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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The gray background of the field is due to the fact that the default
background color is being inherited from the card, which in turn
inherits its default color from the stack, which in turn inherits its
default color from the engine. For whatever wacky reason (not really
relevant, I'd think), the default color of the engine is different for
printing than it is for display on the screen. Manually specify a
background color of white for the card to fix this problem.
As for the font issue, the card is being scaled when printed. By
default, 1 pixel on the screen maps to 1 point on the printer. Since
your screen is likely not 72 dpi (most have a higher resolution now),
the font appears bigger on the printout. Check the documentation on
the printScale property for more info.
On Jan 28, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
I'm baffledcan anyone help?
Mac OS 10.3.4
RunRev 2.5 Studio
To see if I can't get hold of this printing malarkey, I created a new
mainstack. I placed 1 field on the 1st card and set its 'showBorder'
to false. I pasted some text from texEdit into the field. I set the
font to monaco, and the size to 9. I chose "print card' from the file
menu, and printed the card.
On screen, the card is plain white with some 9 point monaco text on
it.
The printed page has a white border, the area of the field being
light
grey. The text is at least 11 point.
To check, I printed the same text from texEdit, all appears on the
page as expected ie. 9 point monaco.
Is this normal? Does anyone recognise this?
TIA,
Mark
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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
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$ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
$
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Re: Printing Again
Glad someone else thinks this should be fixed. Could you try your hand at
Bugzilla-ing this as I was unsuccessful?
On 1/29/05 10:15 AM, "Michael D Mays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This behavior, although logical, does not make since in a WYSIWYG
> environment. Does one ever see this inherited color except when
> printing? What would happen if the default was white instead of
> transparent? Is anyone actually printing on purpose the default color
> of the system on printed output? And if they are do they own stock in
> some ink cartridge company?:)
>
> Michael
>
> On Jan 28, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
>
>> The gray background of the field is due to the fact that the default
>> background color is being inherited from the card,
>
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Re: Printing Again
This behavior, although logical, does not make since in a WYSIWYG environment. Does one ever see this inherited color except when printing? What would happen if the default was white instead of transparent? Is anyone actually printing on purpose the default color of the system on printed output? And if they are do they own stock in some ink cartridge company?:) Michael On Jan 28, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: The gray background of the field is due to the fact that the default background color is being inherited from the card, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Again
Sorry to be dense, but doesn't this mean that in order to get a properly scaled print out, one must always know the resolution of the screen currently in use? For example, my laptop has a screen res of 100 pixels per inch, therefore, to print 9 point text on the screen as 9 point text on the page, I must use a printscale value of 0.72 (72/100). This works. Incidentally, the docs cover the use of the printscale property for printing reduced or enlarged, but there's no suggestion that it would be necessary to use it for simply printing 9 point text as 9 point text...still, it serves the purpose. But what if my app is printing from a computer with a different screen res? (I'm assuming, perhaps wrongly, that we can generally rely on printers using 72dpi). So then the question is, how can this screen dpi value be found? I haven't yet found anything in the docs, searching on 'screen', "resolution', 'pixels', 'dpi', 'dot' or 'inch'. How does everyone deal with this, or do you just set it on your own machine and then hope for the best? Or perhaps I really am just being dense. TIA, Mark On 29 Jan 2005, at 03:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the font issue, the card is being scaled when printed. By default, 1 pixel on the screen maps to 1 point on the printer. Since your screen is likely not 72 dpi (most have a higher resolution now), the font appears bigger on the printout. Check the documentation on the printScale property for more info. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Again
Frank, thanks for this. All becomes a bit clearer...I just needed to know that this stuff is normal, so that the measures taken to deal with it are not just kludges that might break later on. Thanks again, Mark On 29 Jan 2005, at 03:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The gray background of the field is due to the fact that the default background color is being inherited from the card, which in turn inherits its default color from the stack, which in turn inherits its default color from the engine. For whatever wacky reason (not really relevant, I'd think), the default color of the engine is different for printing than it is for display on the screen. Manually specify a background color of white for the card to fix this problem. As for the font issue, the card is being scaled when printed. By default, 1 pixel on the screen maps to 1 point on the printer. Since your screen is likely not 72 dpi (most have a higher resolution now), the font appears bigger on the printout. Check the documentation on the printScale property for more info. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Again - gray background when printing
Gray background when printing but not visible on the screen.
I bugzilla-ed this WYSIWYG failure and the bugzilla was marked as not a bug.
I think the gray should show on the screen the same as it prints as it is
annoying. I wish we could re-bugzilla this and get it fixed as I believe
that it is definitely not a feature.
On 1/28/05 7:17 PM, "Frank D. Engel, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The gray background of the field is due to the fact that the default
> background color is being inherited from the card, which in turn
> inherits its default color from the stack, which in turn inherits its
> default color from the engine. For whatever wacky reason (not really
> relevant, I'd think), the default color of the engine is different for
> printing than it is for display on the screen. Manually specify a
> background color of white for the card to fix this problem.
>
> As for the font issue, the card is being scaled when printed. By
> default, 1 pixel on the screen maps to 1 point on the printer. Since
> your screen is likely not 72 dpi (most have a higher resolution now),
> the font appears bigger on the printout. Check the documentation on
> the printScale property for more info.
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
>
>> I'm baffledcan anyone help?
>>
>> Mac OS 10.3.4
>> RunRev 2.5 Studio
>>
>> To see if I can't get hold of this printing malarkey, I created a new
>> mainstack. I placed 1 field on the 1st card and set its 'showBorder'
>> to false. I pasted some text from texEdit into the field. I set the
>> font to monaco, and the size to 9. I chose "print card' from the file
>> menu, and printed the card.
>>
>> On screen, the card is plain white with some 9 point monaco text on it.
>> The printed page has a white border, the area of the field being light
>> grey. The text is at least 11 point.
>>
>> To check, I printed the same text from texEdit, all appears on the
>> page as expected ie. 9 point monaco.
>>
>> Is this normal? Does anyone recognise this?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Mark
>>
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> $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual
> $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
> John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
> Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
> everlasting life.
> $
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Re: Printing Again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The gray background of the field is due to the fact that the default background color is being inherited from the card, which in turn inherits its default color from the stack, which in turn inherits its default color from the engine. For whatever wacky reason (not really relevant, I'd think), the default color of the engine is different for printing than it is for display on the screen. Manually specify a background color of white for the card to fix this problem. As for the font issue, the card is being scaled when printed. By default, 1 pixel on the screen maps to 1 point on the printer. Since your screen is likely not 72 dpi (most have a higher resolution now), the font appears bigger on the printout. Check the documentation on the printScale property for more info. On Jan 28, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Mark Smith wrote: I'm baffledcan anyone help? Mac OS 10.3.4 RunRev 2.5 Studio To see if I can't get hold of this printing malarkey, I created a new mainstack. I placed 1 field on the 1st card and set its 'showBorder' to false. I pasted some text from texEdit into the field. I set the font to monaco, and the size to 9. I chose "print card' from the file menu, and printed the card. On screen, the card is plain white with some 9 point monaco text on it. The printed page has a white border, the area of the field being light grey. The text is at least 11 point. To check, I printed the same text from texEdit, all appears on the page as expected ie. 9 point monaco. Is this normal? Does anyone recognise this? TIA, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16" John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB+sgG7aqtWrR9cZoRAmSSAJ9kiTb0FZ2fDV+M1WIRd5K5eLCp6wCfV5jj hcNceeK97I0ujX84OkaJJbk= =HcBZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Printing Again
I'm baffledcan anyone help? Mac OS 10.3.4 RunRev 2.5 Studio To see if I can't get hold of this printing malarkey, I created a new mainstack. I placed 1 field on the 1st card and set its 'showBorder' to false. I pasted some text from texEdit into the field. I set the font to monaco, and the size to 9. I chose "print card' from the file menu, and printed the card. On screen, the card is plain white with some 9 point monaco text on it. The printed page has a white border, the area of the field being light grey. The text is at least 11 point. To check, I printed the same text from texEdit, all appears on the page as expected ie. 9 point monaco. Is this normal? Does anyone recognise this? TIA, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
