Re: Progress Made?

2006-03-22 Thread Graham Samuel
I'm sorry for Arthur Urban and his experience of perpetual crashing  
on WinXP, and I'm glad to see Jacqueline's statement that the  
problem has been acknowledged and is being fixed. I just want to  
confirm that this doesn't affect everyone: at present I am switching  
an app I'm developing between OSX and and WinXP machine many times  
each day, with both machines running RR2.7.0, and for me both are  
entirely stable. Incidentally I also find that I don't have to zip  
my .rev files to swap them between machines (I use an external server  
for both archiving and swapping), which I believe is contrary to some  
other people's experience.


For me it would be interesting to find out what are the exact  
circumstances causing these crashes, just in case I suddenly create  
them by accident. But it certainly ain't a universal problem.


Graham




Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France

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Re: Progress Made?

2006-03-22 Thread Rob Cozens


Hi Arthur,


Has there been any progress with the perpetual crashing in WinXP?


I personally have made progress: I have not crashed the Script Editor 
(or anything else) in over a week.


What have I done?  I've made a conscious effort to apply the changes 
made to each handler in a script before changing another handler in the 
same script.


If you, like moi, tend to modify more than one handler in a large 
script before applying the changes, you might try doing what I'm doing 
and see if you find the SE more stable.


Or you might, as I promised RR Support I would, try opening a stack 
with a large script and start cutting and pasting between the script 
and a text file at random to see if you can force a crash.



Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company

And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee.

from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631)

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Re: Progress Made?

2006-03-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

Chipp Walters wrote:

 I, too, keep having Rev crash in the middle of programming (twice in the
 last hour). I was wondering if there's a 'recipe' for this so I can
 watch out for it?

I'm not sure. It appears to have something to do with copying and 
pasting into the script editor, so that's when you should be most 
careful. Save a lot.



 Also, any word on when we can expect a patch?

The update release, due out Very Soon.

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Re: Progress Made?

2006-03-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

Arthur Urban wrote:
 It would be great if I could help out. Is there a specific means to
 generate a crash log?

I'd like some confirmation about this from a regular XP user, but it is 
my understanding that if you get the error dialog from Windows saying 
the program must exit, there will be a button at the bottom of the 
dialog offering to show more detail. If you click that, you will see a 
bunch of gibberish. That gibberish is the crash log, which you can copy 
and paste into a text file.


However, I don't use Windows as my daily platform so if someone knows 
more, please post.


And thanks for your willingness to help. I think they have this one 
isolated now, but in the future any crashes should always be reported to 
Bugzilla.


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Progress Made?

2006-03-21 Thread Arthur Urban
Has there been any progress with the perpetual crashing in WinXP? I 
literally save every couple of minutes because of the instability of the 
IDE. I would like to note to any Rev Developers that might be listening 
though, is that the crash potential is the highest when I have text 
selected in the script editor. Obviously it does not crash every time 
text is selected, but if I know I'm going to cut/paste a number of lines 
of code, or comment/uncomment them, I save first. Selecting the text 
itself does not invoke the crash, but attempting to do other things 
(like click in the selected text, or making Rev think I'm dragging text) 
these seem to be real catalysts for the crash scenario.


Can we please get this fixed? Surely the Rev Developers themselves user 
their own tool on WinXP. It must be crashing like crazy for them too, no?

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Re: Progress Made?

2006-03-21 Thread Mark Smith

Arthur, check out this thread:

http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2006-February/ 
076870.html


Best,

Mark

On 22 Mar 2006, at 00:40, Arthur Urban wrote:

Has there been any progress with the perpetual crashing in WinXP? I  
literally save every couple of minutes because of the instability  
of the IDE. I would like to note to any Rev Developers that might  
be listening though, is that the crash potential is the highest  
when I have text selected in the script editor. Obviously it does  
not crash every time text is selected, but if I know I'm going to  
cut/paste a number of lines of code, or comment/uncomment them, I  
save first. Selecting the text itself does not invoke the crash,  
but attempting to do other things (like click in the selected text,  
or making Rev think I'm dragging text) these seem to be real  
catalysts for the crash scenario.


Can we please get this fixed? Surely the Rev Developers themselves  
user their own tool on WinXP. It must be crashing like crazy for  
them too, no?

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Re: Progress Made?

2006-03-21 Thread J. Landman Gay

Arthur Urban wrote:

Has there been any progress with the perpetual crashing in WinXP?


Yes, I believe they have isolated it. It took quite a while to even get 
a stack that would crash on the development machines, so it wasn't a 
universal problem for everyone. Lots of people seem to be running 2.7 
without any trouble. Eventually more data came in through tech support 
so that the team could address it. It's always a good idea to send bug 
reports to Bugzilla, and crash logs if you have them.


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Re: Progress Made?

2006-03-21 Thread Chipp Walters
I'm working on a small project and for the first time trying to use 2.7 
because of it's anti-aliased graphics (which are great!)


I, too, keep having Rev crash in the middle of programming (twice in the 
last hour). I was wondering if there's a 'recipe' for this so I can 
watch out for it?


Also, any word on when we can expect a patch?

best,

Chipp

J. Landman Gay wrote:

Arthur Urban wrote:


Has there been any progress with the perpetual crashing in WinXP?



Yes, I believe they have isolated it. It took quite a while to even get 
a stack that would crash on the development machines, so it wasn't a 
universal problem for everyone. Lots of people seem to be running 2.7 
without any trouble. Eventually more data came in through tech support 
so that the team could address it. It's always a good idea to send bug 
reports to Bugzilla, and crash logs if you have them.




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Re: Progress Made?

2006-03-21 Thread Arthur Urban
It would be great if I could help out. Is there a specific means to 
generate a crash log?


J. Landman Gay wrote:

Arthur Urban wrote:

Has there been any progress with the perpetual crashing in WinXP?


Yes, I believe they have isolated it. It took quite a while to even 
get a stack that would crash on the development machines, so it wasn't 
a universal problem for everyone. Lots of people seem to be running 
2.7 without any trouble. Eventually more data came in through tech 
support so that the team could address it. It's always a good idea to 
send bug reports to Bugzilla, and crash logs if you have them.



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