Re: Quicktime for Windows 98?

2006-01-09 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:32 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
I thought the media player wars would dictate a strategy by Apple  
to  make sure *any* Windows user could easily run QT. At least  
Apple has not deleted it from their web site... a search turns up  
any number of old versions, which in itself is confusing:


http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime652forwindows.html

Does anyone know if QT 6.5.2 was the latest and last one released  
for Windows 98? Every time I search on Apples site I would land on  
a different one 6.2.5, 6.3... and there was no way to know which is  
the latest for Windows 98


6.5.2 is the newest 6.x release I believe.  The 6.5.2 download page  
you mention above is the url we have used for our customers who need  
6.x.



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Re: Quicktime for Windows 98?

2006-01-09 Thread jeffrey reynolds

Sivakatirswami,

Apple is very careful about the quicktime distribution. If you want  
to distribute quicktime with your product you have to jump through  
several hoops to do so. They are very restrictive. You can only  
distribute the most current version of QT with your product. If you  
reissue the product you also have to update the quicktime w/in 6  
months. Also your installer must also run the quicktime installer in  
one installation step. they also want reports on your distribution of  
discs containing qt and samples of the disc for verification.


they use to have the requirement that your application must only work  
with the newest version of quicktime, at least they have dropped that!


Also they dont license qt for download, you have to send folks to the  
qt site for that.


bottom line is its really a mess to try and fufill all these  
regulations and i have just stepped back to having folks need to have  
quicktime or download it themselves.


I can see why apple has abandoned 98 for its current, supported,  
software. its way past its lifetime for support and I am sure they  
just cant afford to support all legacy systems out there with all the  
lastest qt festures.


I wish their distribution agreement was less restrictive, but i guess  
it is how they ensure there are not a lot of discs being distributed  
now with a 5 year old version of quicktime on it (there are, but this  
just reduces this greatly).


so any distribution by you of the older versions of qt will have to  
be under the table.


if you search around the apple downloads you can find the qt 6.3  
installer there for download. I think its the last version that ran  
under 98, so you could send folks there, but I would not trust that  
it is going to continue to be there for ever, although apple has been  
pretty good about keeping old stuff around for legacy systems, just  
sometimes not that easy to find!


http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120261

cheers,

jeff

On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



100,000 hits logged on to just one of our web sites in December 2005
whose user agent was Windows 98 .So if we deploy a free app
that requires QT... ? unique IP's? hard to say... (webalizer is
deficient to say the least) don't know maybe that represents 40,000
users? They are left stranded?

I thought the media player wars would dictate a strategy by Apple
to  make sure *any* Windows user could easily run QT. At least Apple
has not deleted it from their web site... a search turns up any
number of old versions, which in itself is confusing:

http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime652forwindows.html

Does anyone know if QT 6.5.2 was the latest and last one released for
Windows 98? Every time I search on Apples site I would land on a
different one 6.2.5, 6.3... and there was no way to know which is the
latest for Windows 98

I filled in Apple's Feedback with a suggestion to Apple they add a
link to an older version on their Windows QT page.


Thanks to Richmond for sending me an installer.

Sivakatirswami


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Quicktime for Windows 98?

2006-01-08 Thread Sivakatirswami
I have a small app out for testing. One windows user in New Delhi,  
who was getting overwhelmed with viruses in XP and 2000, was told by  
someone there to go back to Windows 98, which he did. OK --  so  
movies were not playing and I sent him a small stack to test for QT  
and it was not installed. I told him to go to www.apple.com/ 
quicktime/  and lo! Quicktime player apparently is only now available  
for windows 2000 or XP... Or did he read that page incorrectly? I  
find it hard to believe that QT is no longer available for Windows  
98... or is Apples web page for Windows users just confusing?


Sivakatirswami


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Re: Quicktime for Windows 98?

2006-01-08 Thread Rick Harrison


On Jan 8, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:

I have a small app out for testing. One windows user in New Delhi,  
who was getting overwhelmed with viruses in XP and 2000, was told  
by someone there to go back to Windows 98, which he did. OK --  so  
movies were not playing and I sent him a small stack to test for QT  
and it was not installed. I told him to go to www.apple.com/ 
quicktime/  and lo! Quicktime player apparently is only now  
available for windows 2000 or XP... Or did he read that page  
incorrectly? I find it hard to believe that QT is no longer  
available for Windows 98... or is Apples web page for Windows users  
just confusing?


Sivakatirswami



Window's 98 if it came out as late as 1999 is now 7 years old.
In computer terms it is an OS that is a Dinosaur 2 times over.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Apple no longer supports it.

Someone might have a mirror site out there with the older
Quicktime if you are lucky.

Good luck!

Rick Harrison


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Re: Quicktime for Windows 98?

2006-01-08 Thread Mark Schonewille

Sivakatirswami,

Write me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll help you.

Best,

Mark

Sivakatirswami wrote:
I have a small app out for testing. One windows user in New Delhi,  who 
was getting overwhelmed with viruses in XP and 2000, was told by  
someone there to go back to Windows 98, which he did. OK --  so  movies 
were not playing and I sent him a small stack to test for QT  and it was 
not installed. I told him to go to www.apple.com/ quicktime/  and lo! 
Quicktime player apparently is only now available  for windows 2000 or 
XP... Or did he read that page incorrectly? I  find it hard to believe 
that QT is no longer available for Windows  98... or is Apples web page 
for Windows users just confusing?


Sivakatirswami



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Re: Quicktime for Windows 98?

2006-01-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Sivakatirswami wrote:

 Quicktime player apparently is only now available
 for windows 2000 or XP... Or did he read that page incorrectly? I
 find it hard to believe that QT is no longer available for Windows
 98... or is Apples web page for Windows users just confusing?

The info may be incorrect, but if true, the decision wouldn't be surprising
given that MS has publicly stated it is phasing out Win98.  June 30, 2006 is
apparently the key date (but if you have deep enough pockets you can
presumably get continued support):

Microsoft will not publicly release non-critical security hotfixes for
Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, or Windows Millennium Edition.
However, customers may request a non-critical security hotfix through
On-Demand Security Hotfix support, which is offered for these products
through June 30, 2006. When a request is received, Microsoft will
investigate the issue and try to provide an appropriate response to the
customer.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=LifeAn1

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Development  Design
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E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: http://www.tactilemedia.com

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RE: Quicktime for Windows 98?

2006-01-08 Thread Scott Kane

 Microsoft will not publicly release non-critical security 
 hotfixes for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, or 
 Windows Millennium Edition. However, customers may request a 
 non-critical security hotfix through On-Demand Security 
 Hotfix support, which is offered for these products through 
 June 30, 2006. When a request is received, Microsoft will 
 investigate the issue and try to provide an appropriate 
 response to the customer.
 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=LifeAn1


There is a similar issue with XP Home:

  http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-usx=19y=12p1=3221 

Scott


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Re: Quicktime for Windows 98?

2006-01-08 Thread Sivakatirswami
100,000 hits logged on to just one of our web sites in December 2005  
whose user agent was Windows 98 .So if we deploy a free app  
that requires QT... ? unique IP's? hard to say... (webalizer is  
deficient to say the least) don't know maybe that represents 40,000  
users? They are left stranded?


I thought the media player wars would dictate a strategy by Apple  
to  make sure *any* Windows user could easily run QT. At least Apple  
has not deleted it from their web site... a search turns up any  
number of old versions, which in itself is confusing:


http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime652forwindows.html

Does anyone know if QT 6.5.2 was the latest and last one released for  
Windows 98? Every time I search on Apples site I would land on a  
different one 6.2.5, 6.3... and there was no way to know which is the  
latest for Windows 98


I filled in Apple's Feedback with a suggestion to Apple they add a  
link to an older version on their Windows QT page.



Thanks to Richmond for sending me an installer.

Sivakatirswami



On Jan 08, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Recently, Sivakatirswami wrote:



Quicktime player apparently is only now available
for windows 2000 or XP... Or did he read that page incorrectly? I
find it hard to believe that QT is no longer available for Windows
98... or is Apples web page for Windows users just confusing?



The info may be incorrect, but if true, the decision wouldn't be  
surprising
given that MS has publicly stated it is phasing out Win98.  June  
30, 2006 is

apparently the key date (but if you have deep enough pockets you can
presumably get continued support):

Microsoft will not publicly release non-critical security hotfixes  
for

Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, or Windows Millennium Edition.
However, customers may request a non-critical security hotfix through
On-Demand Security Hotfix support, which is offered for these products
through June 30, 2006. When a request is received, Microsoft will
investigate the issue and try to provide an appropriate response to  
the

customer.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=LifeAn1

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Development  Design


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