Re: Audio Triggering + Mouse Event latency

[René Micout]

Or loop station :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOhEmferYjA

Le 16 nov. 2010 à 14:46, René Micout a écrit :

> Fred,
> 1. PlayCommand Agent X (for Mac - available also for Windows) is a part 
> (engine) of Shakobox :
>http://www.hyperactivesw.com/resources_shakobox.html
> 2. For your problem : why not using something like a looper, example :
> http://forum.recordingreview.com/f62/digitech-jamman-looper-reviews-7528/
> Cordialement
> René
> 
> 
> 
> Le 16 nov. 2010 à 14:30, Fred Moyer a écrit :
> 
>> Where can I get PlayCommand? I can't find it on Jacque's site. 
>> 
>> This discussion reminds me of my problem.  I am a pianist and am trying to 
>> use Revolution in my concerts. A typical performance starts with me playing 
>> on the piano alone -- and at a specific moment I bring in a recorded 
>> accompaniment which is in a Player in Revolution. I do it with a foot pedal 
>> that generates a mouseclick (my hands are busy.) When I press the foot pedal 
>> Revolution starts the player which is already loaded with the soundfile. 
>> Here's the problem: if Revolution loads the file and I press the foot pedal 
>> within about 20 secondso, the sound plays immediately -- no problem. But if 
>> my piano solo part is longer than that, it seems that Quicktime (or 
>> Revolution?) goes into some kind of hibernation mode and now when I press 
>> the foot pedal there is a delay of perhaps a second before the sound plays. 
>> This is death for the performance! So now I have to press the foot pedal 
>> about a second before the sound starts; it is really a drag! Any ideas? 
>>  Based on this discussion, I gather it would be quicker if I could get 
>> the foot pedal to generate a keydown? Any ideas how to do this? How do you 
>> make an external mouse generate a keydown instead of a mousedown?
>>  Is there any way to set Quicktime to not go into that hibernation mode? 
>> I have Snow Leopard. Would it help to move to Quicktime Pro? Or Quicktime X?
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Fred Moyer
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 4:33 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Message: 26
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:26:25 +0100
>>> From: Ren? Micout 
>>> Subject: Re: Audio Triggering + Mouse Event latency
>>> To: How to use Revolution 
>>> Message-ID: <2769f86d-1364-4199-8005-d5376bffb...@numericable.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=iso-8859-1
>>> 
>>> Hello Anthony,
>>> I just returned from a trip and I discovered the discussion. For months 
>>> (years...) I work on this problem and the best solution I've found in terms 
>>> of responsiveness is to use PlayCommand Agent X (see Jacqueline web site 
>>> for that) which controls the QuickTime synthesizer via AppleScript. I have 
>>> a (Mac) prototype in progress (for iPad in final) called "Exapad" which is 
>>> based on the principles you have mentioned and which uses "MouseDown" to 
>>> start the sound and "MouseUp" to stop it. Hare are scripts extremely 
>>> simplified (because in application chords can be played and arpeggiated) :
>>> global vgVolumeGénéral,vgTimbre -- settings with slider and menu
>>> on mouseDown
>>> hsJouerNotes the cpNoteBase of the target -- custom property of the note or 
>>> sound (target = image or button)
>>> end mouseDown
>>> on mouseUp
>>> hsArrêtNotes the cpNoteBase of the target
>>> end mouseUp
>>> private command hsJouerNotes vpFondam
>>> SBstartNote vgTimbre,vpFondam,vgVolumeGénéral
>>> end hsJouerNotes
>>> private command hsArrêtNotes vpFondam
>>> SBstopNote vgTimbre,vpFondam 
>>> end hsArrêtNotes
>>> command SBstartNote vpI,vpP,vpV
>>> do ("tell application"&"e& "PlayCommand Agent X" "e && "to" && 
>>> "play note instrument" && quote & vpI & quote && "pitch" && vpP && 
>>> "velocity" && vpV) as AppleScript
>>> end SBstartNote
>>> command SBstopNote vpI,vpP
>>> do ("tell application" && quote & "PlayCommand Agent X" & quote && "to" && 
>>> "play note instrument"&& quote & vpI & quote && "pitch" && vpP && 
>>> "velocity" && 0) as AppleScript
>>> end SBstopNote
>>> No latency. Percussion sounds possible...
>>> I stop because I have no more place...
>>> Bon souvenir de Paris
>>> René
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Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0

[Bob Sneidar]

Eheh. Of course. DOH!

Bob


On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:56 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:

> on startup
>  put the effective filename of me into thePath
>  put the files into theList
>  filter theList with "*.rev"
>  put line 1 of theList into theStack
>  put the short name of me into theStandalone
>  hide this stack
>  go stack theStack
>  if the result <> "" then
>show stack theStack
>put theStack & return into field "error"
>put the result after field "error"
>beep
>pass startup
>  end if
>  send "closeme" to stack theStandalone in 1 second
> end startup
> 
> on closeMe
>  close this stack
> end closeMe
> 
> On 18 Nov 2010, at 18:19, Bob Sneidar wrote:
> 
>> Just thot I'd say, the player was one of the selling points for me. To be 
>> able to distribute a stack I made for the company I work for, along with a 
>> player, without having to futz with all the idiosyncrasies of standalones 
>> was very appealing. I was disappointed when support for the player went 
>> away. 
>> 
>> Bob

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Re: Strange Datagrid Column Problem

[Bob Sneidar]

My favorite personal syntax is "put 'goodFood' into the large mouth of me"

Another favorite: "get SomeOneElseToCleanUp(afterwards)"

Bob


On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:13 AM, David Bovill wrote:

> Yes - I've seen this when you refer to "me" using strange syntax like that.
> That's not me personally - you're welcome to refer to me in whatever syntax
> you like, but the behavior. Not my behavior... anyway. There does seem to be
> some downside of an English like syntax.

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Re: LiveCode Personal Banner

[Richard Gaskin]

Kevin Miller wrote:

I'm leaning towards shortening the banner time to 5 seconds.


That would be a very good option, IMO.

When SuperCard introduced a splash screen delay they originally went for 
10 seconds, but I suggested they try the breath-holding test:   when the 
splash screen appears simply hold your breath until it goes away.


Sure, 10 seconds isn't a long time for most folks to hold their breath, 
but doing so it makes one very aware of how much time passes.


On paper or in a meeting, 10 second sounds like a short time.  But in 
actual use it feels like a very long time.


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Re: Twitter and Oauth

[Erik Schwartz]

Cool. Thanks. Looking forward to it.

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Mark Schonewille
 wrote:
> I'll set up a wiki over the weekend so we're good to go on monday. See ya...
>
>

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Re: Twitter and Oauth

[Mark Schonewille]

I'll set up a wiki over the weekend so we're good to go on monday. See ya...

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On 19 nov 2010, at 16:42, Erik Schwartz wrote:

> Sounds good.
> 
> I think the mailing lists are going down at any moment so we might
> want to wait until they're back.
> 

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Re: Twitter and Oauth

[Erik Schwartz]

Sounds good.

I think the mailing lists are going down at any moment so we might
want to wait until they're back.



On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Mark Schonewille
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Shall I set up an open wiki to start with? That will give everybody a chance 
> to share whatever he or she likes.
>
> --
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> On 19 nov 2010, at 16:21, David Bovill wrote:
>
>> Me too - I've looked at oAuth, but fled in fear :) Keen to get on and crack
>> it. I've got a bit of work on Twitter clients as well I could throw in the
>> mix.
>>
>> On 19 November 2010 14:06, Erik Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be happy to help.
>>>
>>> I think this is an important area, especially as runrev gets more
>>> mobile focused, but also for on-rev and desktop apps.
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Re: Twitter and Oauth

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

Shall I set up an open wiki to start with? That will give everybody a chance to 
share whatever he or she likes.

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On 19 nov 2010, at 16:21, David Bovill wrote:

> Me too - I've looked at oAuth, but fled in fear :) Keen to get on and crack
> it. I've got a bit of work on Twitter clients as well I could throw in the
> mix.
> 
> On 19 November 2010 14:06, Erik Schwartz  wrote:
> 
>> I'd be happy to help.
>> 
>> I think this is an important area, especially as runrev gets more
>> mobile focused, but also for on-rev and desktop apps.

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Re: Twitter and Oauth

[Erik Schwartz]

It seems like the kind of thing for which a nice set of libraries
would get a ton of use.



On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Andre Garzia  wrote:
> I fled in fear as well... I call it ONoesAuth
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:21 PM, David Bovill wrote:
>
>> Me too - I've looked at oAuth, but fled in fear :) Keen to get on and crack
>> it. I've got a bit of work on Twitter clients as well I could throw in the
>> mix.

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Re: Twitter and Oauth

[Andre Garzia]

I fled in fear as well... I call it ONoesAuth

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:21 PM, David Bovill wrote:

> Me too - I've looked at oAuth, but fled in fear :) Keen to get on and crack
> it. I've got a bit of work on Twitter clients as well I could throw in the
> mix.
>
> On 19 November 2010 14:06, Erik Schwartz  wrote:
>
> > I'd be happy to help.
> >
> > I think this is an important area, especially as runrev gets more
> > mobile focused, but also for on-rev and desktop apps.
> >
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Re: matchChunk works?

[David Bovill]

Your destination is misquoted?

"(tDestino)" is not "(" & tDestino & ")"
>

On 19 November 2010 13:35, JosepM  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Not for me, well, the sample code work but this not. Why?
>
> LOCAL startMatch, endMatch
> on mouseUp
>   PUT fld "f_friends" into VAR1
>  put fld "f_look_for_friends" into tDestino
>   PUT EMPTY INTO startMatch
>  PUT EMPTY INTO endMatch
>   PUT matchChunk(VAR1,"(tDestino)",startMatch, endMatch) INTO VAR2
>   put VAR2 && startMatch && endMatch
> end mouseUp
>
> Ever I get startMatch and endMatch to empty...
>
> Salut,
> Josep
>
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Re: Twitter and Oauth

[David Bovill]

Me too - I've looked at oAuth, but fled in fear :) Keen to get on and crack
it. I've got a bit of work on Twitter clients as well I could throw in the
mix.

On 19 November 2010 14:06, Erik Schwartz  wrote:

> I'd be happy to help.
>
> I think this is an important area, especially as runrev gets more
> mobile focused, but also for on-rev and desktop apps.
>
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Re: Twitter and Oauth

[Erik Schwartz]

I'd be happy to help.

I think this is an important area, especially as runrev gets more
mobile focused, but also for on-rev and desktop apps.



On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Mark Schonewille
 wrote:
> Hi Erik,
>
> I will probably be working on Oauth very soon, with regard to Facebook. 
> Perhaps we can do something together.
>

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Re: The New FRelease

[Jim Sims]

On Nov 19, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

>> Intriguing, but a search for "Elsie four fiftyone" failed to turn up
>> anything I recognize.
>> 
> 
> LC 4 51 ?

;-)


It's a Koan, Richard.
And there ain't no ice cream in it.

:-)

sims





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Re: The New FRelease

[Andre Garzia]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> Cal Horner wrote:
>
>  I know this is a 'bit' early and I may be jumping the gun but...
>>
>> Has anyone out there installed Elsie four fiftyone and if so are there any
>> gotchas waiting to bite us in the backside?
>>
>> Or, is everything sweet?
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>
> Intriguing, but a search for "Elsie four fiftyone" failed to turn up
> anything I recognize.
>

LC 4 51 ?


>
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Re: The New FRelease

[Richard Gaskin]

Cal Horner wrote:


I know this is a 'bit' early and I may be jumping the gun but...

Has anyone out there installed Elsie four fiftyone and if so are there any
gotchas waiting to bite us in the backside?

Or, is everything sweet?

Any comments?


Intriguing, but a search for "Elsie four fiftyone" failed to turn up 
anything I recognize.


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Re: matchChunk works?

[JosepM]

Hi,

Not for me, well, the sample code work but this not. Why?

LOCAL startMatch, endMatch 
on mouseUp 
      PUT fld "f_friends" into VAR1 
  put fld "f_look_for_friends" into tDestino
      PUT EMPTY INTO startMatch 
      PUT EMPTY INTO endMatch 
      PUT matchChunk(VAR1,"(tDestino)",startMatch, endMatch) INTO VAR2 
      put VAR2 && startMatch && endMatch 
end mouseUp 

Ever I get startMatch and endMatch to empty...

Salut,
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Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

[Andre Garzia]

Thomas & Jacque,

What I am going to say here is untested. So far I haven't got the time to
try it out but "it should work" (tm).

What you see on the "Documents" interface on iTunes is the same folder you
get when you use specialFolderPath("documents"). So why doesn't all apps
shown up? Because you need a special flag in the .plist for that to work.
You need a boolean key set to true (YES), the key is:

  UIFileSharingEnabled

So if you can get to your plist and set that key to true, then, your
documents folder will magically be available on the iTunes interface. I know
that in the latest alpha of LiveCode iOS deployment thing, we have access to
an editor for the plist but I don't know if it allows you to go to the
source to edit it. If it does, then this is very easy.

Andre
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Re: Twitter and Oauth

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Erik,

I will probably be working on Oauth very soon, with regard to Facebook. Perhaps 
we can do something together.

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On 19 nov 2010, at 14:23, Erik Schwartz wrote:

> Has anyone done a runrev twitter client or other application using Oauth?
> 
> They've got many libraries but none for LiveCode
> http://dev.twitter.com/pages/oauth_libraries
> 
> I'd like to built twitter notification into an app I've built that
> interfaces with the real world via the serial port.

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Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0

[Björnke von Gierke]

on startup
  put the effective filename of me into thePath
  put the files into theList
  filter theList with "*.rev"
  put line 1 of theList into theStack
  put the short name of me into theStandalone
  hide this stack
  go stack theStack
  if the result <> "" then
show stack theStack
put theStack & return into field "error"
put the result after field "error"
beep
pass startup
  end if
  send "closeme" to stack theStandalone in 1 second
end startup

on closeMe
  close this stack
end closeMe

On 18 Nov 2010, at 18:19, Bob Sneidar wrote:

> Just thot I'd say, the player was one of the selling points for me. To be 
> able to distribute a stack I made for the company I work for, along with a 
> player, without having to futz with all the idiosyncrasies of standalones was 
> very appealing. I was disappointed when support for the player went away. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Joseba Aguayo wrote:
> 
>> No Jacqueline, no.
>> The support team respond me this:
>> 
>> Dear Joseba Aguayo,
>> 
>> Thank you for your request. If you are referring to the old DreamCard 
>> Revolution Player, it is no longer supported or available.
>> 
>> If you mean the Web Plugin, that is here:
>> 
>> http://revweb.runrev.com
>> 
>> I hope this helps,
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Heather
>> -
>> 
>> Is incredible 
>> 
>> Un saludo.
>> 
>> Joseba Aguayo Fernández
>> (jagu...@telur.es)
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:58 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
>> 
>>> DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
>> 
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Re: Strange Datagrid Column Problem

[David Bovill]

On 19 November 2010 11:47, zryip theSlug  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:54 AM, David Bovill 
> wrote:
> > Can you file this as a bug, and add the stack? I think it is related
> > to a reference resolution bug with behaviours that causes a few
> > problems when using send. I'm interested to track this bug down.
>
> For columns, "me" should refer to a group named with the name of the
> column + the number of the lines (or the index, not remember exactly)
>
> "btn 1 of me"
> or
> "btn 1 of the long id of me"
>
> should refer to a button in a group name or in group id, not to a field.
>
> Maybe interesting to study that closer.
>

Yes - I've seen this when you refer to "me" using strange syntax like that.
That's not me personally - you're welcome to refer to me in whatever syntax
you like, but the behavior. Not my behavior... anyway. There does seem to be
some downside of an English like syntax.

The behavior I get problems with is that in certain circumstances "the long
id of x" does not convert a valid reference to the "long id" when called
from within a behavior, which is surely bad behavior, for which I apologise.
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Re: Strange Datagrid Column Problem

[zryip theSlug]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:54 AM, David Bovill  wrote:
> Can you file this as a bug, and add the stack? I think it is related
> to a reference resolution bug with behaviours that causes a few
> problems when using send. I'm interested to track this bug down.

For columns, "me" should refer to a group named with the name of the
column + the number of the lines (or the index, not remember exactly)

"btn 1 of me"
or
"btn 1 of the long id of me"

should refer to a button in a group name or in group id, not to a field.

Maybe interesting to study that closer.


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Re: Strange Datagrid Column Problem

[zryip theSlug]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Peter Haworth  wrote:

Pete,

> That worked!

Odd, should work in the both cases.

> Are you familiar with the banana slug, native to the Santa Cruz area of
> California?

A few. It is endemic (native) of the area. It loves forest. Its color
allows it to hide from predators in the leaves.
It exists also a mascott, no?


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Re: Stackrunner

[David Bovill]

On 17 November 2010 19:49, Devin Asay  wrote:

>
>  start using stack "myIconStack" --or whatever it's called.
>

You don't need to "use" the stack - it just needs to be loaded into memory.
Using the stack is one way to do that,  so is making it a substack of the
main stack as then they are in the same file and both loaded at the same
time.
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Re: Strange Datagrid Column Problem

[David Bovill]

Can you file this as a bug, and add the stack? I think it is related
to a reference resolution bug with behaviours that causes a few
problems when using send. I'm interested to track this bug down.

On Thursday, November 18, 2010, Peter Haworth  wrote:
> That worked!
>
> Are you familiar with the banana slug, native to the Santa Cruz area of 
> California?
>
> Pete Haworth
>
> On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:54 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:
>
>
> Pete,
>
> Try:
> set the hilite of btn 1 of me to handleBoolean(pData)
>
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Re: OT: getting page hit-counts for on-rev account

[Pierre Sahores]

Le 19 nov. 2010 à 01:22, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

> Unless they are checking for it, Bots will trigger a hit as well. Have you 
> thought about Google Analytics? Not sure if you can use it for on-rev. 

Works 100% friendly with on-rev hosted apps.

Best,

Pierre
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
> 
>> In cpanel
>> In the "Logs" panel, click on   webalizer
>> for the appropriate domain, click on "View"
>> then click on the relevant month
>> then click on "URLs"
>> and then you should see it 
>> 
>> Hopefully there are other, perhaps better ways.
>> -- Alex.
>> 
>> 
>> On 18/11/2010 23:55, Nicolas Cueto wrote:
>>> Hello List,
>>> 
>>> I guess my question is for fellow on-rev account users.
>>> 
>>> How can one retrieve a count of the number of visitors to a specific 
>>> web-page?
>>> 
>>> Somewhere in the cpanel, I imagine. But if someone knows for certain,
>>> it'd save me a lot of digging around here and there.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: OT: getting page hit-counts for on-rev account

[Pierre Sahores]

Nicolas,

cPanel : Webalizer + Analogue

irev : <.?rev get url this.page.counter ; put 1+it into url this.page.counter 
?> or best and more secure (concurrent writes supported), an SQL data write

StatCounter

Xiti

Google Analytics

etc...

Best,

Pierre

Le 19 nov. 2010 à 00:55, Nicolas Cueto a écrit :

> Hello List,
> 
> I guess my question is for fellow on-rev account users.
> 
> How can one retrieve a count of the number of visitors to a specific web-page?
> 
> Somewhere in the cpanel, I imagine. But if someone knows for certain,
> it'd save me a lot of digging around here and there.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Question regarding Valentina DB

[Ruslan Zasukhin]

On 11/18/10 11:21 PM, "Jonathan Lynch"  wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

> I never do database stuff. But, for a project I am doing at work, I am going
> to need to. Valentina seems like the best choice for what I am doing.
> 
> Are there any older versions of the embedded form of the Valentina database
> that are free, or that are free to folks who already have a RunRev license?

> I seem to recall something like this at one time, but the cobwebs in my
> brain are pretty thick, so I could be wrong.

There was no free version of Valentina for Revolution / Livecode.
Was megabundle in the prev year for new users ...


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Re: OT: getting page hit-counts for on-rev account

[Nicolas Cueto]

Thank you for the responses.

Had a look at the on-rev cpanel's "Logs", at Google Analytics, and
briefly at statcounter.com. Google Analytics does work with on-rev
webpages (just insert some code into the html code), it is free, and
looks more attractive (and more detailed?) than on-rev "Logs". So,
being more familiar with Google than statcounter.com, went with Google
Analytics.

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Re: OT: getting page hit-counts for on-rev account

[Jim Sims]

On Nov 19, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:

> How can one retrieve a count of the number of visitors to a specific web-page?

Quite often I use a service at http://statcounter.com/

It not only counts, but shows you the pages they were on, what order they 
traveled through, how long on each page, referral, and some other bits of 
information. Helpful for fine tuning entry/landing pages to larger sites. Free 
up to five hundred records (I think) but that simply means it keeps the most 
recent 500. For a price you can add more records and other features.

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Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

[Thomas McGrath III]

Well this would be great news for  a few projects of mine. In xCode you have to 
register in the applications pList file for Document Sharing in order to 'turn 
on' this feature.

Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
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I Can Speak on the iPad Store
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8


On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:10 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> On 11/18/10 9:14 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
>> Jacqueline,
>> 
>> So then, is the Documents folder you're saving to the same folder
>> that Apple expects? In other words can you register that folder as a
>> shared folder and see the contents in iTunes?
> 
> I think so, but I've only tested in the simulator so far. But the docs say 
> the Documents folder is compatible with iTunes expectations, and that it's 
> seen and backed up by iTunes. There's no indication you need to do anything 
> in particular to get that behavior, it just happens.
> 
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Re: Drag and Drop to Item in List Field

[J. Landman Gay]

On 11/18/10 6:41 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

Getting closer now.

If I put the following script in the source list field the correct text is sent 
in the drag.
on mouseDown
set the dragData["text"] to the selectedText
end mouseDown

Target field script hilites the correct line in the list
on dragMove
   set the hilitedLines of me to (word 2 of the mouseLine)
end dragMove

However, if I also put this script in the target field script nothing happens:
on dragDrop
put the dragData["text"]
pass dragDrop
end dragDrop

What I need is the dragged text and the target field line. I believe I can only 
get that from the target field not the source field but I can't figure out how.


Add a "dragEnter" handler to the target field:

on dragEnter
  set the dragAction to "copy" -- there are other options
end dragEnter

on dragMove
  set the hilitelines of me to (word 2 of the mouseline)
end dragMove

on dragDrop
  put the dragData["text"}
  pass dragDrop
end dragDrop

As is, the dragdrop handler just puts the text into the message box. If 
you want it dropped into the field, supply a position, like "put the 
dragData["text"] & cr before the mouseline".


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Re: Drag and Drop to Item in List Field

[Bill Vlahos]

Getting closer now.

If I put the following script in the source list field the correct text is sent 
in the drag.
on mouseDown
   set the dragData["text"] to the selectedText
end mouseDown

Target field script hilites the correct line in the list
on dragMove
  set the hilitedLines of me to (word 2 of the mouseLine)
end dragMove

However, if I also put this script in the target field script nothing happens:
on dragDrop
   put the dragData["text"]
   pass dragDrop
end dragDrop

What I need is the dragged text and the target field line. I believe I can only 
get that from the target field not the source field but I can't figure out how.

Bill Vlahos

On Nov 16, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

> Terry and Marty,
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions. They both work.
> 
> Since this is a drag and drop scenario this script looks like it does what I 
> want.
> on dragMove
>   set the hilitedLines of me to (word 2 of the mouseLine)
> end dragMove
> 
> Bill
> 
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Terry Judd wrote:
> 
>> How about this...
>> 
>> on mouseMove
>>   set the hilitedLines of me to (word 2 of the mouseLine)
>> end mouseMove
>> 
>> Terry...
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/11/10 10:39 AM, "Bill Vlahos"  wrote:
>> 
>>> The following script works very well with one problem. This script hilites 
>>> the
>>> line correctly but just keeps hiliting lines as I move the mouse around and
>>> they stay hilited.
>>> 
>>> Make a scrolling field with some lines of text and put this handler in it:
>>> 
>>> on mouseWithin
>>>  set the backgroundColor of the mouseLine to "yellow"
>>> end mouseWithin
>>> 
>>> How do I have it only hilite one line at a time?
>>> 
>>> Bill Vlahos
>>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:
>>> 
 I have a list of categories and I want to drag and drop some text from a 
 list
 field onto one of the categories in the target list field. The line of text
 should hilite on the drag (before the drop) so I know which item it is 
 going
 to I should drag into.
 
 I can get most of the coding for drag and drop but there are some things I
 don't know.
 1. How do I hilite the line of text in the list field the mouse is over?
 2. How do I get the line of text in the target list field when the users
 drops the mouse?
 
 Bill Vlahos
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Re: OT: getting page hit-counts for on-rev account

[Bob Sneidar]

Unless they are checking for it, Bots will trigger a hit as well. Have you 
thought about Google Analytics? Not sure if you can use it for on-rev. 

Bob


On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:

> In cpanel
> In the "Logs" panel, click on   webalizer
> for the appropriate domain, click on "View"
> then click on the relevant month
> then click on "URLs"
> and then you should see it 
> 
> Hopefully there are other, perhaps better ways.
> -- Alex.
> 
> 
> On 18/11/2010 23:55, Nicolas Cueto wrote:
>> Hello List,
>> 
>> I guess my question is for fellow on-rev account users.
>> 
>> How can one retrieve a count of the number of visitors to a specific 
>> web-page?
>> 
>> Somewhere in the cpanel, I imagine. But if someone knows for certain,
>> it'd save me a lot of digging around here and there.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: OT: getting page hit-counts for on-rev account

[Alex Tweedly]

In cpanel
In the "Logs" panel, click on   webalizer
for the appropriate domain, click on "View"
then click on the relevant month
then click on "URLs"
and then you should see it 

Hopefully there are other, perhaps better ways.
-- Alex.


On 18/11/2010 23:55, Nicolas Cueto wrote:

Hello List,

I guess my question is for fellow on-rev account users.

How can one retrieve a count of the number of visitors to a specific web-page?

Somewhere in the cpanel, I imagine. But if someone knows for certain,
it'd save me a lot of digging around here and there.

Thanks.

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Re: Desktop to iPad

[Colin Holgate]

I haven't checked, but does LC have a full screen mode, where you get to use 
the 1024x768, and not have to show the status bar?


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Re: Desktop to iPad

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 8:09 AM, edward cawley  wrote:
> Just starting to look at Revmobile, I have an app which runs on desktop . I'd 
> like to modify it to the ipad. I reduced the stack size to 1000,700 which 
> should fit the ipad. I have an animated Gif on the first card with a 
> dimension of 700,452. When I make a landscape iPad on the simulator only a 
> portion of the image is shown. Now the simulation iPad app is not the actual 
> size of the ipad. Would the image show up in the actual device? If not, what 
> do I have to do to see what the ipad image would be?


Edward, the iPad screen is 1024 x 768 or 768 x 1024 depending on orientation.

After that, you need to take 20 pixels off for the status bar at the
top, which makes the effective dimensions 1004 x 768 or 748 x 1024.

You can set the orientation using the iphoneRotateInterface command.
If you want to control how you allow the user to rotate, you need to
handle the orientationChanged message as shown in the handbook.

When a rotation occurs, you get a resizeStack message which you can
use to adjust the size of your gif, or show/hide different images.

In the simulator, there are menu items to allow you to simulate a
rotation. The actual scale of the simulator screen depends on your
screen res, but is an accurate representation of what you will see on
the actual iPad screen.

Cheers,
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Re: Strange Datagrid Column Problem

[Peter Haworth]

That worked!

Are you familiar with the banana slug, native to the Santa Cruz area  
of California?


Pete Haworth

On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:54 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:


Pete,

Try:
set the hilite of btn 1 of me to handleBoolean(pData)


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Re: Strange Datagrid Column Problem

[zryip theSlug]

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
> I've customised a datagrid column to contain a checkbox.  Right after the
> customisation, the checkbox shows up in the column just fine.  I then added
> the following line of code in the FillInData handler for the column:
>
> set the hilite of button 1 of the long ID of me to handleBoolean(pData)
>
> .. and I get the message "an error has occurred in behavior for the column
> template: Object: can't set this property.
>
> I've used this same code in other datagrids to handle checking and
> unchecking check boxes and it works fine.
>
> So I stuck an answer information right before that line of code to display
> the name of the control just to make sure I was looking at the correct
> control:
>
> answer information the name of button 1 of the long ID of me
>
> The display shows the correct name for the check box but it says it is a
> field, not a checkbox so no wonder it can't set the hilite property!
>
> Any ideas as to how my checkbox got to be a field?  And even more puzzling,
> how does the display of the name of a button show it to be a field?

Pete,

Try:
set the hilite of btn 1 of me to handleBoolean(pData)


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Re: Reunion (was: It was once possible to set individual pixels of an image)

[Peter Brigham MD]

I think I'll make up a T-shirt that says:

on openBackground backgroundID
   if the short name of background backgroundID = "Hypercard" then
   answer "Things have changed now!"
   launch "LiveCode"
   end if
end openBackground

-- Peter

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On Nov 18, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

We should have our own Reunion party and everyone wear a Hypercard t- 
shirt! We could get drunk and talk about old times. Ok, it's enough  
that we just get drunk. I'll bring the chips and guacamole!


Bob


On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:37 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

Showing my age, but HC had an XFCN called "thePixel" (by Steve  
Drazga),

that returned the value, black or white, of any point on the screen.

For the reverse, setting a pixel, I used to choose the pencil tool  
and
click at a point. If the pixel color at that point was white, it  
would change to

black, if the opposite, well, then the opposite.

The first generation of HC users, like WW II veterans, will soon be
history.
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Re: It was once possible to set individual pixels of an image

[Bob Sneidar]

We should have our own Reunion party and everyone wear a Hypercard t-shirt! We 
could get drunk and talk about old times. Ok, it's enough that we just get 
drunk. I'll bring the chips and guacamole! 

Bob


On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:37 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

> Showing my age, but HC had an XFCN called "thePixel" (by Steve Drazga), 
> that returned the value, black or white, of any point on the screen.
> 
> For the reverse, setting a pixel, I used to choose the pencil tool and 
> click at a point. If the pixel color at that point was white, it would change 
> to 
> black, if the opposite, well, then the opposite.
> 
> The first generation of HC users, like WW II veterans, will soon be 
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Re: Blend level scale query

[Bob Sneidar]

I believe the 1-100 is a measure of percentage, not the actual bit value for 
the alpha channel (or whatever they are doing there). 100 would then correspond 
to 255 (if I do not have it backwards). If you cannot use a decimal value for 
blendLevel then I think you are stuck with 100 levels. Is it easy to discern 
the difference between 50% and 51%? If not, the point is moot. 

Bob


On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:

> Not sure what you're looking for here David.  AFAIK, blendLevel is simply a 
> percentage of opacity.  I have seen opacity treated in other tools using 
> levels from 0 to 255, so I'm pretty sure finer increments of opacity are 
> possible beyond those addressable in LC.
> 
> Regards,  
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX Design
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:55 AM, David Glasgow  
> wrote:
> 
>> Can anyone say whether the LC blend level 
>> 
>> 1/ Corresponds to any particular model of transparency and opacity?
>> 
>> 2/ Can be described in units of some kind other than the LC 1-100?
>> 
>> 3/ Might approximate a linear scale?  (Although of course these things are 
>> very trick with perceptual stuff)
>> 
>> 4/  Gives reliably similar results across different machines & OSs?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> David Glasgow
>> Carlton Glasgow Partnership
>> 
>> i-psych.co.uk
>> 
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Re: Cloning cards

[Bob Sneidar]

Whoops! I didn't mean the splash stack should "close itself" I meant "hide 
itself". Closing the "real" stack will have to have a "Quit" command at the end 
of anything else you do. Otherwise I think the splash screen will pop up again 
if you close the "real" stack. The more knowledgable among us may correct me. 

Bob


On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> Thanks Robert.
> Just haven't had the time this AM to tackle this as yet.
> 
> Joe Wilkins
> 
> On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
> 
>> Hi Joe. 
>> 
>> Not so tough. Make a brand new stack which will be your splash stack. Have 
>> that stack open the "real" stack and then close itself. Add your "real" 
>> stack along with it's substack as an included file in your standalone 
>> settings. Mince finely, stir in with a cup of lemon juice and compile. The 
>> mincing and lemon juice are not strictly necessary. 
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> 
>>> My intuition told me as much, and I've been surprised at how easily I'm 
>>> able to change the data in a Standalone by using an external text file and 
>>> then changing the text file along the way. My dilemma, now, is that this 
>>> sub-stack is already part of the standalone, so splitting it off as another 
>>> stack file may not be so easy. OTOH, it may also solve an issue I now have 
>>> communicating between that "sub-stack" and the main stack in the 
>>> standalone. We'll see once I take a look at Sarah's tutorial.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> 
>>> Joe Wilkins
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Re: Uninstaller

[Kenji Kojima]

YES! It worked.

~/Library/Preferences/RunRev/livecode.rev
was broken. 

I removed RunRev folder then reinstalled. 

Thank you very much.
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On Nov 18, 2010, at 02:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> On 11/18/10 12:59 PM, Kenji Kojima wrote:
>> Thanks Jacqueline,
>> 
>> I removed  "~/Documents/My LiveCode/Plugins/revMobilePlugin.rev" and 
>> LiveCode 4.5.1.app.
>> Installed "LiveCode 4.5.1.app" again.
>> And restart  my computer, but it did not work.
>> 
>> I removed all of LiveCode files I could find. But I am still having the same 
>> problem.
>> Even if removed every files and reinstalled a fresh LiveCode, there are old 
>> info of menu item "Open Recent Files...".
>> 
>> I think I need to remove all of LiveCode files like uninstaller does, and 
>> install a real fresh LiveCode.
> 
> I don't think any of the other files will affect the script editor, but you 
> can try removing your preferences file and the other files in here:
> 
> ~/Library/Preferences/RunRev/
> 
> That is where the recent files are stored. When you re-install, use the 
> installer. I don't think it is enough to just drag the app into the 
> Applications folder.
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Re: Uninstaller

[J. Landman Gay]

On 11/18/10 12:59 PM, Kenji Kojima wrote:

Thanks Jacqueline,

I removed  "~/Documents/My LiveCode/Plugins/revMobilePlugin.rev" and LiveCode 
4.5.1.app.
Installed "LiveCode 4.5.1.app" again.
And restart  my computer, but it did not work.

I removed all of LiveCode files I could find. But I am still having the same 
problem.
Even if removed every files and reinstalled a fresh LiveCode, there are old info of menu 
item "Open Recent Files...".

I think I need to remove all of LiveCode files like uninstaller does, and 
install a real fresh LiveCode.


I don't think any of the other files will affect the script editor, but 
you can try removing your preferences file and the other files in here:


~/Library/Preferences/RunRev/

That is where the recent files are stored. When you re-install, use the 
installer. I don't think it is enough to just drag the app into the 
Applications folder.


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Re: Stackrunner

[Richmond]

On 11/18/2010 09:21 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:

On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Richmond wrote:


On 11/17/2010 09:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where 
the image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when 
my app starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


Pete Haworth

I don't think this is all that difficult: set your prefs so ALL RR/LC 
stacks show up in lists.


The open the prefs palette for the image library stack and set its 
mainstack to your stack and

save the thing; Done!


Clone a copy of the image library stack first, then set the mainstack 
of the *copy* to your stack. If you don't work on a copy, you'll move 
the IDE image library out of the IDE and next time it looks for an 
image it won't find one.


Whoops; sorry chaps!



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Re: Stackrunner

[Peter Brigham MD]

On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Richmond wrote:


On 11/17/2010 09:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where  
the image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when  
my app starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


Pete Haworth

I don't think this is all that difficult: set your prefs so ALL RR/ 
LC stacks show up in lists.


The open the prefs palette for the image library stack and set its  
mainstack to your stack and

save the thing; Done!


Clone a copy of the image library stack first, then set the mainstack  
of the *copy* to your stack. If you don't work on a copy, you'll move  
the IDE image library out of the IDE and next time it looks for an  
image it won't find one.


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Re: Uninstaller

[Kenji Kojima]

Thanks Jacqueline,

I removed  "~/Documents/My LiveCode/Plugins/revMobilePlugin.rev" and LiveCode 
4.5.1.app.
Installed "LiveCode 4.5.1.app" again. 
And restart  my computer, but it did not work. 

I removed all of LiveCode files I could find. But I am still having the same 
problem. 
Even if removed every files and reinstalled a fresh LiveCode, there are old 
info of menu item "Open Recent Files...". 

I think I need to remove all of LiveCode files like uninstaller does, and 
install a real fresh LiveCode.

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> On 11/18/10 11:06 AM, Kenji Kojima wrote:
>> Hi Jacqueline,
>> 
>> Thanks your advise.
>> 
>>> If you are on Mac, just drag the app to the trash.
>> 
>> I tried but It did not work.
>> I think I need to remove somewhere hidden files on my Mac. Probably they 
>> were broken.
> 
> Oh, okay. You could see if you have any plugins that conflict. If you are 
> using the old Revolution folder, look in:
> 
> ~/Documents/My Revolution /Plugins
> 
> or in here for the new LiveCode folder:
> 
> ~/Documents/LiveCode/Plugins/
> 
> Move or rename the Plugins folder and restart LiveCode. See if that fixes it. 
> The script editor is inside the LC app bundle, so if you replaced that 
> already then the app isn't the problem.
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Re: Blend level scale query

[Scott Rossi]

Not sure what you're looking for here David.  AFAIK, blendLevel is simply a 
percentage of opacity.  I have seen opacity treated in other tools using levels 
from 0 to 255, so I'm pretty sure finer increments of opacity are possible 
beyond those addressable in LC.

Regards,  

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:55 AM, David Glasgow  
wrote:

> Can anyone say whether the LC blend level 
> 
> 1/ Corresponds to any particular model of transparency and opacity?
> 
> 2/ Can be described in units of some kind other than the LC 1-100?
> 
> 3/ Might approximate a linear scale?  (Although of course these things are 
> very trick with perceptual stuff)
> 
> 4/  Gives reliably similar results across different machines & OSs?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> David Glasgow
> Carlton Glasgow Partnership
> 
> i-psych.co.uk
> 
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Re: Uninstaller

[J. Landman Gay]

On 11/18/10 11:06 AM, Kenji Kojima wrote:

Hi Jacqueline,

Thanks your advise.


If you are on Mac, just drag the app to the trash.


I tried but It did not work.
I think I need to remove somewhere hidden files on my Mac. Probably they were 
broken.


Oh, okay. You could see if you have any plugins that conflict. If you 
are using the old Revolution folder, look in:


~/Documents/My Revolution /Plugins

or in here for the new LiveCode folder:

~/Documents/LiveCode/Plugins/

Move or rename the Plugins folder and restart LiveCode. See if that 
fixes it. The script editor is inside the LC app bundle, so if you 
replaced that already then the app isn't the problem.


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Re: Multi-Language-Support iOS

[Pierre Sahores]

Harald,

Seems good ! I just use, for my own, a function witch contains items & lines 
delimited rows, one sentence per row and a different translation per item.

Best,

Pierre

> Hello all,
> 
> while waiting for my first app to be reviewed I'm planning the next apps
> and also think about a better multi-language support. I hope one of the
> next versions of the iOS-Plugin will support language detection :)
> 
> In my first app (english/german) I used text files for labels and texts which
> have to be shown in seperate languages. Not very elegant.
> 
> For the next version/app I'm think about building a function which extracts
> all long IDs of objects in all stacks which have a custom property called
> "localize" (for example), which I then will put into an array and save as a
> file. So I would have a "database" of elements which have to be translated.
> This data could be completed by translators (friends, myself) with different
> languages. I would load this array while starting the app to set all 
> labels/texts
> to the language which is choosen/detected.
> 
> How do you think about this way, any better ideas?
> 
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Re: Cloning cards

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Thanks Robert.
Just haven't had the time this AM to tackle this as yet.

Joe Wilkins

On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

> Hi Joe. 
> 
> Not so tough. Make a brand new stack which will be your splash stack. Have 
> that stack open the "real" stack and then close itself. Add your "real" stack 
> along with it's substack as an included file in your standalone settings. 
> Mince finely, stir in with a cup of lemon juice and compile. The mincing and 
> lemon juice are not strictly necessary. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> My intuition told me as much, and I've been surprised at how easily I'm able 
>> to change the data in a Standalone by using an external text file and then 
>> changing the text file along the way. My dilemma, now, is that this 
>> sub-stack is already part of the standalone, so splitting it off as another 
>> stack file may not be so easy. OTOH, it may also solve an issue I now have 
>> communicating between that "sub-stack" and the main stack in the standalone. 
>> We'll see once I take a look at Sarah's tutorial.
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Joe Wilkins
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Re: Cloning cards

[Bob Sneidar]

Hi Joe. 

Not so tough. Make a brand new stack which will be your splash stack. Have that 
stack open the "real" stack and then close itself. Add your "real" stack along 
with it's substack as an included file in your standalone settings. Mince 
finely, stir in with a cup of lemon juice and compile. The mincing and lemon 
juice are not strictly necessary. 

Bob


On Nov 18, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> My intuition told me as much, and I've been surprised at how easily I'm able 
> to change the data in a Standalone by using an external text file and then 
> changing the text file along the way. My dilemma, now, is that this sub-stack 
> is already part of the standalone, so splitting it off as another stack file 
> may not be so easy. OTOH, it may also solve an issue I now have communicating 
> between that "sub-stack" and the main stack in the standalone. We'll see once 
> I take a look at Sarah's tutorial.
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Joe Wilkins

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Re: DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0

[Bob Sneidar]

Just thot I'd say, the player was one of the selling points for me. To be able 
to distribute a stack I made for the company I work for, along with a player, 
without having to futz with all the idiosyncrasies of standalones was very 
appealing. I was disappointed when support for the player went away. 

Bob


On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Joseba Aguayo wrote:

> No Jacqueline, no.
> The support team respond me this:
> 
> Dear Joseba Aguayo,
> 
> Thank you for your request. If you are referring to the old DreamCard 
> Revolution Player, it is no longer supported or available.
> 
> If you mean the Web Plugin, that is here:
> 
> http://revweb.runrev.com
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Heather
> -
> 
> Is incredible 
> 
> Un saludo.
> 
> Joseba Aguayo Fernández
> (jagu...@telur.es)
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:58 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
> 
>> DOWNLOADING REV 4.0.0
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Re: Uninstaller

[Kenji Kojima]

Hi Jacqueline,

Thanks your advise. 

>If you are on Mac, just drag the app to the trash. 

I tried but It did not work. 
I think I need to remove somewhere hidden files on my Mac. Probably they were 
broken.

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> On 11/18/10 10:27 AM, Kenji Kojima wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Where is Uninstaller.app for LiveCode?
> 
> The uninstall procedure is documented on page 5 of the User Guide, which you 
> can access from the Help menu in the IDE. If you are using Windows, the 
> uninstall is now available in Windows Add/Remove Programs control panel. If 
> you are on Mac, just drag the app to the trash. If you are on Linux, follow 
> the instructions in the guide.
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Re: Uninstaller

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On 11/18/10 10:27 AM, Kenji Kojima wrote:

Hi,

Where is Uninstaller.app for LiveCode?


The uninstall procedure is documented on page 5 of the User Guide, which 
you can access from the Help menu in the IDE. If you are using Windows, 
the uninstall is now available in Windows Add/Remove Programs control 
panel. If you are on Mac, just drag the app to the trash. If you are on 
Linux, follow the instructions in the guide.


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Re: Is it possible to access or set individual pixels of an image?

[Marty Billingsley]

Thanks to everyone who responded! I understand imageData a lot better  
now. (And the fact that transparency is stored in maskData, not  
imageData.)


Turns out I was able to solve the problem using a combination of crop  
and imageData -- now I can split an image into irregularly-shaped  
puzzle pieces.


Next step: snap a photo with the web cam so the photo can be turned  
into a jigsaw puzzle.


Thanks agin,
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Re: Cloning cards

[Richard Gaskin]

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> I'll save this approach as a plan "B"; for now, I think, I'll
> just create a brand new, expandable Main Stack that I can use
> when the user needs to create new forms. I think I can probably
> do this by just creating a dummy empty stack and, then, when I
> need additional copies of a Form, instead of cloning that Form
> in the sub-stack, I'll copy it, go to the dummy stack and paste
> it. That may also make the sequencing of Forms easier. Your
> suggestion, though I'm sure it is great, appears to be a bit too
> complex for me at this time.

Whether you clone or copy, either is just a single line of code.

The long part of my post was a function to help with the thing either 
method will still need:  where to save the file in a place you know will 
be user-writable.


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Re: Cloning cards

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Hi Richard,

I'll save this approach as a plan "B"; for now, I think, I'll just create a 
brand new, expandable Main Stack that I can use when the user needs to create 
new forms. I think I can probably do this by just creating a dummy empty stack 
and, then, when I need additional copies of a Form, instead of cloning that 
Form in the sub-stack, I'll copy it, go to the dummy stack and paste it. That 
may also make the sequencing of Forms easier. Your suggestion, though I'm sure 
it is great, appears to be a bit too complex for me at this time. Plus, it is 
always a good idea to have a Plan B around. (smile) My problem is: if I don't 
think of something, I sometimes have trouble understanding how someone else's 
way of doing things works. It's a "my brain" problem we all face in our 
declining years. The "old dog - new tricks syndrome" if you will. I'm still 
struggling with the custom properties concept. (smile) Thanks...

Joe Wilkins 

On Nov 18, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> 
> > My dilemma, now, is that this sub-stack is already part of the
> > standalone, so splitting it off as another stack file may not
> > be so easy. OTOH, it may also solve an issue I now have
> > communicating between that "sub-stack" and the main stack in
> > the standalone.
> 
> Maybe not so bad - consider trying this:
> 
> Rename the existing substack something like "SubstackNameTEMPLATE", when add 
> this when you need to create a savable document:
> 
>  -- Make the savable stack:
>  clone stack "SubstackNameTEMPLATE"
>  set the name of it to "SubstackName"
>  -- Now to save it in some writable location:
>  set the filename of it to MyDataPath()
>  save stack "SubstackName"
> 
> In a central library you can use this handy function to find the path to the 
> file for saving or opening:
> 
> function MyDataPath
>   switch the platform
>   case "MacOS"
> put specialFolderPath("asup") into tPath
> break
>   case "Win32"
> put specialFolderPath(26) into tPath
> break
>   case "Linux"
> put specialFolderPath("home")&"/Documents" into tPath
>   end switch
>   --
>   put "/MyAppName/" after tPath
>   if there is not a folder tPath then
> create folder tPath
> if the result is not empty then
>answer "Error: "& the result
>exit to top
> end if
>   put "MyDocumentName.myExtension" after tPath
>   return tPath
> end MyDataPath
> 
> 
> The above is off-the-cuff and untested, but I've written similar handlers 
> often so hopefully it will be at least mostly working and somewhat helpful. :)
> 
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Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

[J. Landman Gay]

On 11/18/10 9:14 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

Jacqueline,

So then, is the Documents folder you're saving to the same folder
that Apple expects? In other words can you register that folder as a
shared folder and see the contents in iTunes?


I think so, but I've only tested in the simulator so far. But the docs 
say the Documents folder is compatible with iTunes expectations, and 
that it's seen and backed up by iTunes. There's no indication you need 
to do anything in particular to get that behavior, it just happens.


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Re: Cloning cards

[Richard Gaskin]

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> My dilemma, now, is that this sub-stack is already part of the
> standalone, so splitting it off as another stack file may not
> be so easy. OTOH, it may also solve an issue I now have
> communicating between that "sub-stack" and the main stack in
> the standalone.

Maybe not so bad - consider trying this:

Rename the existing substack something like "SubstackNameTEMPLATE", when 
add this when you need to create a savable document:


  -- Make the savable stack:
  clone stack "SubstackNameTEMPLATE"
  set the name of it to "SubstackName"
  -- Now to save it in some writable location:
  set the filename of it to MyDataPath()
  save stack "SubstackName"

In a central library you can use this handy function to find the path to 
the file for saving or opening:


function MyDataPath
   switch the platform
   case "MacOS"
 put specialFolderPath("asup") into tPath
 break
   case "Win32"
 put specialFolderPath(26) into tPath
 break
   case "Linux"
 put specialFolderPath("home")&"/Documents" into tPath
   end switch
   --
   put "/MyAppName/" after tPath
   if there is not a folder tPath then
 create folder tPath
 if the result is not empty then
answer "Error: "& the result
exit to top
 end if
   put "MyDocumentName.myExtension" after tPath
   return tPath
end MyDataPath


The above is off-the-cuff and untested, but I've written similar 
handlers often so hopefully it will be at least mostly working and 
somewhat helpful. :)


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Re: Cloning cards

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Hi Richard,

My intuition told me as much, and I've been surprised at how easily I'm able to 
change the data in a Standalone by using an external text file and then 
changing the text file along the way. My dilemma, now, is that this sub-stack 
is already part of the standalone, so splitting it off as another stack file 
may not be so easy. OTOH, it may also solve an issue I now have communicating 
between that "sub-stack" and the main stack in the standalone. We'll see once I 
take a look at Sarah's tutorial.

Thanks, 

Joe Wilkins

On Nov 18, 2010, at 7:01 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> 
> > If we create a standalone with a menu item of "New Form" and
> > then implement it with a handler script in which we do: clone
> > this card, will this create a new card in the Standalone, keeping
> > in mind that this will be done in a sub-stack? Also, with a
> > matching menu item: Delete Form with the same concern.
> 
> Good news:  it's easy to do.
> 
> Bad news:  ...but not as a substack.
> 
> A substack of the stackfile that's been made into an executable won't be able 
> to save changes because the OS prevents executables from modifying themselves.
> 
> So instead all you have to do is what every other app does:  keep any stacks 
> that must be saved in a separate stack file.
> 
> Sarah Reichelt contributed this excellent tutorial on saving data in 
> standalones to the LiveCode Journal site, which many have found very helpful 
> for this:
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Groups as background

[JosepM]

Oh... thanks,... has already started going crazy .. I did not know you could
do this way. :)


Salut,
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Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

[Thomas McGrath III]

Jacqueline,

So then, is the Documents folder you're saving to the same folder that Apple 
expects? In other words can you register that folder as a shared folder and see 
the contents in iTunes?


Thanks

Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
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On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:43 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> On 11/17/10 4:46 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
>> 
>> I haven't tried in the latest release but before that there was no
>> way for iOS to save out a stack or a preferences file that I know of.
> 
> Basic file read/write and file URL access works now. I'm saving a text-based 
> prefs file to the Documents folder in the app sandbox.
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Re: Cloning cards

[Richard Gaskin]

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> If we create a standalone with a menu item of "New Form" and
> then implement it with a handler script in which we do: clone
> this card, will this create a new card in the Standalone, keeping
> in mind that this will be done in a sub-stack? Also, with a
> matching menu item: Delete Form with the same concern.

Good news:  it's easy to do.

Bad news:  ...but not as a substack.

A substack of the stackfile that's been made into an executable won't be 
able to save changes because the OS prevents executables from modifying 
themselves.


So instead all you have to do is what every other app does:  keep any 
stacks that must be saved in a separate stack file.


Sarah Reichelt contributed this excellent tutorial on saving data in 
standalones to the LiveCode Journal site, which many have found very 
helpful for this:




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Re: Multi-Language-Support iOS

[Harald Müller]

Hi Ron,

thank you for your remarks! That could be a way to distribute the
loaded language file to the relevant elements. But perhaps the step
via customproperties isn't necessary. When I have to change labels
and texts with a script I could also get the input directly from the
"language file".

(I do want the data to be in an external file, because the handling
of more than one translation should be easy. To make every change
inside the stack by hand wouldn't be very comfortable and the chance
to make errors would be too big.)

Regards,
Harald.


Am 18.11.2010 um 13:57 schrieb ron barber:

> Hi Harald
> I don't know if this works on iOS but In my app using Japanese and
> English, I have two custom property sets that have the same elements,
> each with names in their respective languages. The appropriate
> property set is set on preopenstack of the mainstack based on a
> preference setting.
> 
> on preopenstack
> set the custompropertyset of wd "myapp" to whichlanguage
> end preopenstack
> 
> under the custompropertyset I have a customproperty consisting of a
> list of objects and their label/content
> 
> synct,Synchronize
> multit,Multiple Copies
> 
> then I read the customproperty and
> split thelist by return and comma
> 
> then on preopenstack of the main stack or any substacks I set the
> object properties.
> 
> set the label of btn "synct" to thelist[synct]
> set the text of fld "multicopyt" to thelist[multit]
> 
> you do not have to include a customproperty that is one long list, you
> could make each label a separate cprop and call it like
> set the label of btn "synct" to the synct of wd "myapp"
> 
> 
> The important part is that you have a custompropertyset for each
> language and then set that according to your user's preferences.
> 
> HTH
> Ron
> 
> On Nov 18, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Harald Müller wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> while waiting for my first app to be reviewed I'm planning the next apps
> and also think about a better multi-language support. I hope one of the
> next versions of the iOS-Plugin will support language detection :)
> 
> In my first app (english/german) I used text files for labels and texts which
> have to be shown in seperate languages. Not very elegant.
> 
> For the next version/app I'm think about building a function which extracts
> all long IDs of objects in all stacks which have a custom property called
> "localize" (for example), which I then will put into an array and save as a
> file. So I would have a "database" of elements which have to be translated.
> This data could be completed by translators (friends, myself) with different
> languages. I would load this array while starting the app to set all
> labels/texts
> to the language which is choosen/detected.
> 
> How do you think about this way, any better ideas?
> 
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Re: Groups as background

[DunbarX]

Make sure that the background behavior ("behaves like a background") of the 
group is true, so when you add additional cards the group will appear 
there. You only need to do this once. The engine will take care of this forever.

Craig Newman
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Re: Groups as background

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Josep,

> Hi,
> 
> I have a stack with 3 card that have a group "background" as menu for all
> the cards. Now I modified the group and add some cards more. All the cards
> have different groups and the changes aren't replicated.
> 
> Why? How solve this? recreate again all the cards with delete and
> copy&paste?

no copy & paste neccessary!

Go to the card(s) here you want to place your group and choose menu 
"Object" -> "Place" group" -"Name of your group here..."

That's it :-)

> Salut,
> Josep

Best

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Re: Multi-Language-Support iOS

[ron barber]

Hi Harald
I don't know if this works on iOS but In my app using Japanese and
English, I have two custom property sets that have the same elements,
each with names in their respective languages. The appropriate
property set is set on preopenstack of the mainstack based on a
preference setting.

on preopenstack
set the custompropertyset of wd "myapp" to whichlanguage
end preopenstack

under the custompropertyset I have a customproperty consisting of a
list of objects and their label/content

synct,Synchronize
multit,Multiple Copies

then I read the customproperty and
split thelist by return and comma

 then on preopenstack of the main stack or any substacks I set the
object properties.

set the label of btn "synct" to thelist[synct]
set the text of fld "multicopyt" to thelist[multit]

you do not have to include a customproperty that is one long list, you
could make each label a separate cprop and call it like
set the label of btn "synct" to the synct of wd "myapp"


The important part is that you have a custompropertyset for each
language and then set that according to your user's preferences.

HTH
Ron

On Nov 18, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Harald Müller wrote:

Hello all,

while waiting for my first app to be reviewed I'm planning the next apps
and also think about a better multi-language support. I hope one of the
next versions of the iOS-Plugin will support language detection :)

In my first app (english/german) I used text files for labels and texts which
have to be shown in seperate languages. Not very elegant.

For the next version/app I'm think about building a function which extracts
all long IDs of objects in all stacks which have a custom property called
"localize" (for example), which I then will put into an array and save as a
file. So I would have a "database" of elements which have to be translated.
This data could be completed by translators (friends, myself) with different
languages. I would load this array while starting the app to set all
labels/texts
to the language which is choosen/detected.

How do you think about this way, any better ideas?

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Re: Unable to Affect Printer Paper Orientation?

[Scott Rossi]

> There doesn't seem to be any way to force the Print dialog to accept the
> landscape setting.
> ...
> Is there anything else I can try short of creating yet
> another dialog for users to click "No, really, I want to print landscape!" ???

[answering my own question]

I am admittedly new to LiveCode's printing features, but it turns out I was
missing a few key pieces of information...

1) I was using the form "answer printer" when apparently one needs to use
"open printing with dialog".  Not sure why both options exist but the former
appeared to be unaffected by manually setting printer properties (and led to
a couple of days of aggravation).

2) I found this tidbit buried in the user contributed notes of the Rev 4
Dictionary stack: "If you change the orientation of the printed page by
setting the value of the PrintPaperOrientation property, the value of the
PrintRectangle does not change to match it until you open printing."  This
info was key in tracking down paper orientation problems.  Many thanks to
the anonymous poster who added this to the dictionary.

Maybe the above will be helpful for anyone else struggling with print
orientation issues.

Regards,

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Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design




Recently, I wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone has come across a print dialog situation that has
> multiple ways of setting paper orientation (LC4, Windows XP).
> 
> After beating my head against the wall for several hours, I realized that the
> landscape paper  setting in the Page Setup dialog in XP is not being honored
> in the main Print dialog. Even when I explicitly script "set the
> printPaperOrientation to "landscape" before opening the system print dialog,
> the orientation setting shows up as "Portrait".  In my situation, the paper
> orientation is found in a secondary dialog that is accessed by clicking the
> Preferences button in the main print dialog.
> 
> There doesn't seem to be any way to force the Print dialog to accept the
> landscape setting.  In the Page Setup dialog, setting landscape orientation
> works as expected.  If I set the paper orientation manually and bypass the
> print dialog, I can print landscape no problem, so really the only issue is
> the main print dialog.  Is there anything else I can try short of creating yet
> another dialog for users to click "No, really, I want to print landscape!" ???
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.


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Re: Cloning cards

[Scott Rossi]

Hi Joe:

If I understand what you're asking, the answer is yes, but the cloned card
won't be saved unless your stack exists in a file that's separate from the
standalone (standalones can't modify themselves).

You'll either need to use the splash screen launcher strategy which involves
building a standalone from a small splash screen stack and using this to
launch your "real" mainstack file, or clone your cards in new stacks and
save those as external files that can be opened by your standalone.  You can
find references in the list archives (one example:
).

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design



Recently, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> A quick question before I spend a lot of time assuming it will work: If we
> create a standalone with a menu item of "New Form" and then implement it with
> a handler script in which we do: clone this card, will this create a new card
> in the Standalone, keeping in mind that this will be done in a sub-stack?
> Also, with a matching menu item: Delete Form with the same concern.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Joe Wilkins


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Re: Please suggest script

[Timothy Miller]

Thankya, Devin, Andre, Phil and Mike.

Your suggestions worked out even better than expected.

I have a little padlock icon near one corner of the field. It locks and unlocks 
the field in question, to prevent accidental erasures. Normally, the field will 
be locked when I am reading its contents.

When locktext is true, the field remains focusable. That means my new "make 
link" button works when the field is locked. As soon as the link is made, it is 
immediately clickable, unless I unlock the field. Perfect!

Cheers,


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Re: Please suggest script

[Timothy Miller]

Thankya, Devin, Andre, Phil and Mike.

Very helpful. I get it now.

Tim
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Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

[J. Landman Gay]

On 11/17/10 4:46 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


I haven't tried in the latest release but before that there was no
way for iOS to save out a stack or a preferences file that I know of.


Basic file read/write and file URL access works now. I'm saving a 
text-based prefs file to the Documents folder in the app sandbox.


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Re: [ANN] buttons for iPhone

[Robert Mann]

A warm thank you! ... all the graphic part is getting so sophisticated these
days! I'll test it next few days to make graphics for a iphone version of my
site... and I was shivering at the thought of having to spend too much time
for a non graphic man in GIMP, the chimp.  THanks for sharing. RObert,
Versailles.
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Re: Why Does this Behavior Fail?

[Web Admin Himalayan Academy]

 On 11/17/10 3:23 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

S-

Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 5:07:10 PM, you wrote:


>  I love it... simple is better "who needs behaviors if you don't need
>  behaviors" (hehe, though I still would like to know why it did not work...)

Memory's failing me here, but I think there was a thread recently
about mouseWithin messages not getting passed properly to behavior
objects...



Oh, sweet:

Jacqueline script  in the card had the effect of causing the field to go 
empty if you moved to any object that had no tip



so, following your "hunch" that "within" was failing I put this in the 
behavior button on the "off line" behaviors card:


on mouseEnter
  put the uHelpInfo of the target into tTip
  if tTip <> "" then
 set the htmltext of fld "prefsinfo" to tTip
 show fld "prefsInfo" with visual effect dissolve very fast
 show btn "closeHelp"
  end if

end mouseEnter

and it works now to simply  set the behavior of the objects on the prefs 
card. and this give better control



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Re: Why Does this Behavior Fail?

[Mark Wieder]

S-

Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 5:07:10 PM, you wrote:

> I love it... simple is better "who needs behaviors if you don't need
> behaviors" (hehe, though I still would like to know why it did not work...)

Memory's failing me here, but I think there was a thread recently
about mouseWithin messages not getting passed properly to behavior
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Re: Why Does this Behavior Fail?

[Web Admin Himalayan Academy]

 On 11/17/10 2:51 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


I have a stack that does that, but it doesn't use behaviors. I just 
put this into the card:


on mouseEnter
  put the cTip of the target into tTip
  if tTip <> "" then
set the htmltext of fld "helptext" to tTip
  end if
  pass mouseEnter
end mouseEnter

on mouseLeave
  put "" into fld "helptext" -- or hide the fld
  pass mouseLeave
end mouseLeave

Only those objects that have a cTip property will do anything. I just 
add help text to anything that needs it. I don't think I'd use 
"mouseWithin", it will trigger repeatedly. 


I love it... simple is better "who needs behaviors if you don't need 
behaviors" (hehe, though I still would like to know why it did not work...)


Right... mousewithin... i had my field blink 35 times at one point... 
I'll use this... only thing was I was putting all the tips in custom 
props for hte card rather than in individual controls. But I like your 
way too. Makes the object portable.


Thanks
Sivakatirswami


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Re: Why Does this Behavior Fail?

[J. Landman Gay]

On 11/17/10 5:51 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:

goal:

I would to put help info in custom props and then call these
automatically into display as the user pass his mouse over controls (on
a preferences card)


I have a stack that does that, but it doesn't use behaviors. I just put 
this into the card:


on mouseEnter
  put the cTip of the target into tTip
  if tTip <> "" then
set the htmltext of fld "helptext" to tTip
  end if
  pass mouseEnter
end mouseEnter

on mouseLeave
  put "" into fld "helptext" -- or hide the fld
  pass mouseLeave
end mouseLeave

Only those objects that have a cTip property will do anything. I just 
add help text to anything that needs it. I don't think I'd use 
"mouseWithin", it will trigger repeatedly.


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Re: LiveCode and the Mac App Store

[Thomas McGrath III]

Ron,

I haven't tried in the latest release but before that there was no way for iOS 
to save out a stack or a preferences file that I know of. In xCode you have a 
few choices. Either save to the settings pane via API provided by apple or you 
could save a pList to 'your sandbox' documents folder and read that in. I think 
-- not sure -- that LC is allowing an internal -- in your bundle -- documents 
folder that you can write to. I just don't know if this is the same folder that 
iOS lets you write to. The other choice you have is to write to an external 
server and read that in on launch. The problem with that approach is that the 
app would have to be connected to the internet when launched.

FWIW, If it is the exact same folder THEN it will be possible to register with 
iOS and iTunes a shared folder that will be available via iTunes for manually 
putting and getting files from/into your app.

I am working on a few different apps now and will have more info over the next 
week or so.

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On Nov 17, 2010, at 10:34 AM, ron barber wrote:

> Tom,
> Thanks for the reply and specifics. I recognize that Apple's policy is
> a work in progress and the app store will probably be somewhat
> different from the iOS store but I am looking for some guidelines to
> keep from making obvious mistakes.
> 
> So what do you do for saving prefs for your iOS app? It sounds like
> the Apple upgrade mechanism is compatible with a LC app but do we need
> to do anything to link to it?
> 
> Thanks
> Ron
> 
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Thomas McGrath III  wrote:
>> Ron,
>> 
>> I haven't used LC for the APPLE desktop store yet but I am developing a few 
>> applications for the APP iOS store. In the APP iOS store application you can 
>> not spit out stacks as in 1. and although you could auto check for upgrades 
>> 3. you could not download them because Apple won't allow it except through 
>> the APP iOS store upgrade mechanism. I do list my homepage in my app and on 
>> the APP iOS store in iTunes.
>> 
>> I would assume that for the APPLE desktop store there will be some 
>> restrictions but not as tight as the APP iOS store. I haven't looked into it 
>> yet but I would think that the auto upgrade 3. will not be possible since by 
>> using the APPLE store your are agreeing to use their auto upgrade features. 
>> Not sure about the prefs or saving a stack out or the home page listing for 
>> an APPLE desktop store application.
>> 
>> 
>> Tom McGrath III
>> Lazy River Software
>> http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
>> 3mcgr...@comcast.net
>> 
>> I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us...
>> http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com
>> 
>> I Can Speak on the iPad Store
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8
>> 
>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:06 PM, ron barber wrote:
>> 
>>> As a follow up to my earlier question _can_ we use LiveCode desktop to
>>> make desktop apps to be sold through the Apple store (Kevin's answer
>>> was a qualified 'yes') Is anyone _actually_ moving forward with an app
>>> for the Apple store?
>>> 
>>> I have an app that I want to make available in the store but I'm
>>> worried that current set up may not meet Apple guidelines.
>>> 
>>> If so could you comment on how you eliminated or modified the way you:
>>> 
>>> 1. Save prefs: currently I spit out another stack from a customprop
>>> stored in the startupstack.
>>> 2. Listing your homepage in the About or Help menus or anywhere else.
>>> In other words, Are you providing a way for users to contact you in a
>>> way that Apple likes?
>>> 3. Auto checking upgrade options: currently my app checks a file on
>>> homepage on startup and informs users if there is a newer version.
>>> 
>>> Any other parts of your application that you have modified to conform
>>> to Apple's (current) guidelines?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your suggestions...
>>> Ron
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Re: [ANN] buttons for iPhone

[BNig]

here is the stack for the iPhone buttons as a revlet:

http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/iphonebtnsrevlet/

on my local machine I could even copy the images and the button object into
a new Livecode stack.

If you copy a button object and it works you will see an install button,
click on it to make the icons visible.

Dont know about fonts etc. might not work in all the real web.

If this works you could get your buttons from a revlet...

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Re: Stackrunner

[Peter Haworth]

Thanks Devin and Richmond.

Pete Haworth








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On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Devin Asay wrote:



On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:


I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where the
image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my  
app

starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


That's the general idea. You find the stack that contains the images  
you are using as button icons, make a copy of it, then include it  
with your mainstack. You could even make it a substack of your  
mainstack to keep it in the same stack file. Then, in the stack that  
uses the images, include the statement, probably in a preOpenStack  
handler:


 start using stack "myIconStack" --or whatever it's called.

Once you do that all images in the used stack are available to be  
used in the calling stack.


Devin



On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Devin Asay wrote:



On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:


Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon
numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh
well!


Pete,

You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start
using it when it's opened by Stack Runner.

Devin




Pete Haworth

On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

Just started using this and very happy but have come across a
problem
regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image
library
in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library
when
specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and
standalone
but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons  
are
invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!).  
Any

ideas as to why this might be happening?


The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image  
library,

but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always
available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will
change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those
will work anywhere.

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Re: script interruption (suite)

[Ian McKnight]

Glad to be of help.

On 17 November 2010 21:25, Yves COPPE  wrote:

>
> Le 17 nov. 2010 à 21:26, Ian McKnight a écrit :
>
> > Hi Yves
> >
> > Try moving the lines
> >
> > send secondTimer to me in 5 Sec
> > -- record the message ID
> > put the result&cr after myPendingMessages
> >
> > out of the handler altogether, placing it immediately before the place
> where
> > the main call to toggleexercice is made.
> >
> > This should mean that a timer is started as soon as you call the main
> > handler.
> > If nothing is touched then the flag should be set to true after 5 secs
> which
> > is what the mouseclick does anyway. In this case you probably won't need
> the
> > clearMyPendingMessages handler but, maybe its overkill on my part,
> whenever
> > I use any send command I always like to clear up aftermyself this way -0
> > just to make sure.
> >
> > Try that and see.
> >
> > All the best
> >
>
>
> Hi Ian
>
>
> sorry, i've made a typo !
> after correction, it works great ! yesss!!
> many thanks 
>
>
> Greetings.
>
> Yves COPPE
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Re: script interruption (suite)

[Yves COPPE]

Le 17 nov. 2010 à 21:26, Ian McKnight a écrit :

> Hi Yves
> 
> Try moving the lines
> 
> send secondTimer to me in 5 Sec
> -- record the message ID
> put the result&cr after myPendingMessages
> 
> out of the handler altogether, placing it immediately before the place where
> the main call to toggleexercice is made.
> 
> This should mean that a timer is started as soon as you call the main
> handler.
> If nothing is touched then the flag should be set to true after 5 secs which
> is what the mouseclick does anyway. In this case you probably won't need the
> clearMyPendingMessages handler but, maybe its overkill on my part, whenever
> I use any send command I always like to clear up aftermyself this way -0
> just to make sure.
> 
> Try that and see.
> 
> All the best
> 


Hi Ian


sorry, i've made a typo !
after correction, it works great ! yesss!!
many thanks 


Greetings.

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Re: script interruption (suite)

[Yves COPPE]

Le 17 nov. 2010 à 21:26, Ian McKnight a écrit :

> Hi Yves
> 

Hi Ian,


I have noticed that
command secondTimer
global gEndFlag
   if gFlagEnd is false then put True into gFlagEnd
 end secondTimer



this command is well activated after 5 secs but the fld doesn't disappear
something misses !


Greetings.

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Re: script interruption (suite)

[Yves COPPE]

Le 17 nov. 2010 à 21:26, Ian McKnight a écrit :

> Hi Yves
> 
> Try moving the lines
> 
> send secondTimer to me in 5 Sec
> -- record the message ID
> put the result&cr after myPendingMessages
> 
> out of the handler altogether, placing it immediately before the place where
> the main call to toggleexercice is made.
> 
> This should mean that a timer is started as soon as you call the main
> handler.
> If nothing is touched then the flag should be set to true after 5 secs which
> is what the mouseclick does anyway. In this case you probably won't need the
> clearMyPendingMessages handler but, maybe its overkill on my part, whenever
> I use any send command I always like to clear up aftermyself this way -0
> just to make sure.
> 
> Try that and see.
> 


Hi Ian

no changes alas ...
after 5 secs, the fld doesn't disappear ...

Greetings.

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Re: Stackrunner

[J. Landman Gay]

On 11/17/10 2:14 PM, Ken Ray wrote:

The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library, but
StackRunner does not.


That's right - the list of things that are built in to StackRunner are
listed under the "Using StackRunner" section of the web page:

  http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Although a lot of libraries and externals are provided with SR, images are
not.


It's still a wonderful tool. I use it sometimes to send prototypes or 
ideas to clients so I don't have to build standalones repeatedly for 
little things.


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Re: Windows Version problems

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Thanks Devin, I'll keep that in mind as a possibility.

Joe Wilkins

On Nov 17, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Devin Asay wrote:

> 
> On Nov 17, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dixie,
>> 
>> I guess it IS a little confusing. I have a main-stack and two sub-stacks. 
>> The user has to answer questions presented in the Main-stack. The 
>> information required to answer the questions is located in one of the 
>> sub-stacks - The Reference Stack. When a question is presented in the 
>> Main-stack, information that will allow the question to be answered is 
>> presented by opening and going to a card in the sub-stack that contains that 
>> information. That is done automatically when the user goes to a card in the 
>> Main-stack with each question. The user must read the information and then 
>> return to the Main-stack to answer the question. The questions and the 
>> process are quite complex. Sometimes the user must answer a series of other 
>> questions in the sub-stack before s/he can answer the Main-stack question. 
>> Those questions are presented in yet a third stack. Based on how each of 
>> these questions is answered, eventually a report is generated that tells the 
>> user what they must do to their project in order to make it compliant with a 
>> set of rules that are outlined in the Reference Sub-stack. As I said, it IS 
>> quite complex.
>> 
>> Less confused? Probably not! (smile)
> 
> Joe,
> 
> It might work to use push card and pop card. The push card list can allow you 
> to go several "layers" in to a series of cards, and then you should be able 
> to "backtrack" out of the series using pop card. You'd have to be scrupulous 
> about always matching pushes with pops to end up at the original location, 
> but it should work reliably, regardless of whether the 'pushed' cards are in 
> a substack, mainstack or even a completely different stack file.
> 
> Devin
> 
> 
> Devin Asay
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Re: script interruption (suite)

[Ian McKnight]

Hi Yves

Try moving the lines

send secondTimer to me in 5 Sec
-- record the message ID
put the result&cr after myPendingMessages

out of the handler altogether, placing it immediately before the place where
the main call to toggleexercice is made.

This should mean that a timer is started as soon as you call the main
handler.
If nothing is touched then the flag should be set to true after 5 secs which
is what the mouseclick does anyway. In this case you probably won't need the
clearMyPendingMessages handler but, maybe its overkill on my part, whenever
I use any send command I always like to clear up aftermyself this way -0
just to make sure.

Try that and see.

All the best



On 17 November 2010 20:12, Yves COPPE  wrote:

>
> Le 17 nov. 2010 à 19:45, Ian McKnight a écrit :
>
> > How about sending another send in time message to change the global after
> 5
> > seconds?
> > I haven't tried itand there may be a more efficient way to code this but
> I
> > think it should work.
> >
> > The only thing is you will have quite a number of unneeded calls of the
> > secondTimer. To overcome this you need to record the send ID in a
> variable
> > and then clear these IDs from the pending messages
> >
> > For more info look up send and cancel in the dictionary
> >
> > local myPendingMessages
> >
> > on toggleexercice tDerniereDate
> >  global gEndFlag
> >   if gEndFlag is false then
> > if tDerniereDate <> empty then
> >set the blendLevel of  fld "showExercice" to 100
> >show fld "showExercice"
> >repeat with x = 100 down to 35
> >   set the blendLevel of  fld "showExercice" to x
> >   wait 1 ticks
> >end repeat
> > end if
> >
> > send secondTimer to me in 5 Sec
> > -- record the message ID
> > put the result&cr after myPendingMessages
> >
> > send toggleexercice to me in 1
> >
> >  else
> > repeat with x = 35 to 100
> >set the blendLevel of  fld "showExercice" to x
> >wait 1 tick
> > end repeat
> > hide fld "showExercice"
> > clearMyPendingMessages
> > exit to top
> >  end if
> > end toggleexercice
> >
> >
> >
> > command secondTimer
> > if gFlagEnd is false then put True into gFlagEnd
> > end secondTimer
> >
> > command clearMyPendingMessages
> > repeat for each line tMsg in myPendingMessages
> > cancel tMsg
> > end repeat
> > put empty into myPendingMessages
> > end clearMyPendingMessages
> >
>
>
>
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> the script above runs but the fld "showExercice" doesn't disappear
> sponaneously
> I still have to click in the fld to makes it disappear
> please do you have another idea for me???
> thank you very much
>
> Greetings.
>
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Re: Stackrunner

[Ken Ray]

> The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library, but
> StackRunner does not.

That's right - the list of things that are built in to StackRunner are
listed under the "Using StackRunner" section of the web page:

 http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Although a lot of libraries and externals are provided with SR, images are
not.

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Re: script interruption (suite)

[Yves COPPE]

Le 17 nov. 2010 à 19:45, Ian McKnight a écrit :

> How about sending another send in time message to change the global after 5
> seconds?
> I haven't tried itand there may be a more efficient way to code this but I
> think it should work.
> 
> The only thing is you will have quite a number of unneeded calls of the
> secondTimer. To overcome this you need to record the send ID in a variable
> and then clear these IDs from the pending messages
> 
> For more info look up send and cancel in the dictionary
> 
> local myPendingMessages
> 
> on toggleexercice tDerniereDate
>  global gEndFlag
>   if gEndFlag is false then
> if tDerniereDate <> empty then
>set the blendLevel of  fld "showExercice" to 100
>show fld "showExercice"
>repeat with x = 100 down to 35
>   set the blendLevel of  fld "showExercice" to x
>   wait 1 ticks
>end repeat
> end if
> 
> send secondTimer to me in 5 Sec
> -- record the message ID
> put the result&cr after myPendingMessages
> 
> send toggleexercice to me in 1
> 
>  else
> repeat with x = 35 to 100
>set the blendLevel of  fld "showExercice" to x
>wait 1 tick
> end repeat
> hide fld "showExercice"
> clearMyPendingMessages
> exit to top
>  end if
> end toggleexercice
> 
> 
> 
> command secondTimer
> if gFlagEnd is false then put True into gFlagEnd
> end secondTimer
> 
> command clearMyPendingMessages
> repeat for each line tMsg in myPendingMessages
> cancel tMsg
> end repeat
> put empty into myPendingMessages
> end clearMyPendingMessages
> 




Hi Ian,

the script above runs but the fld "showExercice" doesn't disappear sponaneously
I still have to click in the fld to makes it disappear
please do you have another idea for me???
thank you very much

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
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Re: Is it possible to access or set individual pixels of an image?

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote:

> You should try to do all the updates as one: get the imagedata of the image,
> make whatever changes you need to, then set the imagedata of the image
> again. There are a few gotchas when setting the imagedata. Make sure the
> image is the right size. If you're setting a 10x20 pixel image, you need to
> supply exactly 800 bytes of data. That's 4 for each pixel. The first byte is
> 0, the next three are Red, Green and Blue.

No doubt, there are more efficient ways to do it -- am just trying to show
what's possible.  You're the man when it comes to efficiency Geoff!

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Re: Stackrunner

[Richmond]

On 11/17/2010 09:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where the 
image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my app 
starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


Pete Haworth

I don't think this is all that difficult: set your prefs so ALL RR/LC 
stacks show up in lists.


The open the prefs palette for the image library stack and set its 
mainstack to your stack and

save the thing; Done!
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Re: Stackrunner

[Devin Asay]

On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where the  
> image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my app  
> starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?

That's the general idea. You find the stack that contains the images you are 
using as button icons, make a copy of it, then include it with your mainstack. 
You could even make it a substack of your mainstack to keep it in the same 
stack file. Then, in the stack that uses the images, include the statement, 
probably in a preOpenStack handler:

  start using stack "myIconStack" --or whatever it's called.

Once you do that all images in the used stack are available to be used in the 
calling stack.

Devin


> On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Devin Asay wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon
>>> numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh  
>>> well!
>> 
>> Pete,
>> 
>> You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start  
>> using it when it's opened by Stack Runner.
>> 
>> Devin
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete Haworth
>>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>>> 
 On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
> Just started using this and very happy but have come across a  
> problem
> regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image
> library
> in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library
> when
> specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and
> standalone
> but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are
> invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any
> ideas as to why this might be happening?
 
 The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library,
 but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always
 available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will
 change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those
 will work anywhere.
 
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Re: Is it possible to access or set individual pixels of an image?

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, I wrote:

> execute the following in your message box:
> go url "http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/downloads/pixel_colorize.rev";

Whoops -- something stopped working in the random colorizing portion of this
demo.  Reposted the stack with a fix (hopefully it's working correctly now).

Regards,

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Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: Is it possible to access or set individual pixels of an image?

[Geoff Canyon Rev]

You should try to do all the updates as one: get the imagedata of the image,
make whatever changes you need to, then set the imagedata of the image
again. There are a few gotchas when setting the imagedata. Make sure the
image is the right size. If you're setting a 10x20 pixel image, you need to
supply exactly 800 bytes of data. That's 4 for each pixel. The first byte is
0, the next three are Red, Green and Blue.

gc

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:

> Hi Marty:
>
> Maybe this will help -- execute the following in your message box:
> go url "
> http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/downloads/pixel_colorize.rev";
>
> See all tutorial stacks (Web link):
> http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/software/tutorials.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX Design
>
>
>
> Recently, Marty Billingsley wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to read and set the color of individual pixels in an
> > image?  ImageData is a little incomprehensible.
> >
> > Basically, I'd like to be able to do something like:
> > for each pixel in image "x",  set the color of that pixel to some
> > calculated value (or a value pulled from a pixel of another image)
> >
> > Thanks for any pointers you can give me!
> >
> >   - marty
> >
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> > The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools
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Re: Stackrunner

[Peter Haworth]

I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where the  
image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my app  
starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


Pete Haworth

On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Devin Asay wrote:



On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:


Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon
numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh  
well!


Pete,

You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start  
using it when it's opened by Stack Runner.


Devin




Pete Haworth

On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Just started using this and very happy but have come across a  
problem

regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image
library
in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library
when
specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and
standalone
but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are
invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any
ideas as to why this might be happening?


The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library,
but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always
available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will
change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those
will work anywhere.

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Re: Stackrunner

[Richmond]

On 11/17/2010 09:24 PM, Devin Asay wrote:

On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:


Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon
numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh well!

Pete,

You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start using it 
when it's opened by Stack Runner.

Devin

RR/LC is infinitely flexible, and Devin's suggestion should remind us 
all that RR/LC is itself
implemented in RR/LC (even if, frankly, that is rather difficult to 
conceptualise), and as such,
most componets of the IDE can be moved, as substacks, to one's own 
stacks, and then sent
off with StackRunner, or the Metacard IDE (that does NOT contain lots of 
components that

are present in the RR/LC setup), to do whatever one wants.

In fact, one of the first things I did, in 2001 when I "discovered" RR, 
was start unpacking the thing

as a way to understanding how it worked.

If one is not entirely happy with the RR/LC GUI one can use components 
from it to build an
individualised GUI, either on the RR/LC GUI, or by hacking the MC GUI. 
While this rarely
results in anythibg particularly better, it does prove an instructive 
exercise rather in the

same sort of way as one unpacks a series of nested Russian dolls.
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Re: Stackrunner

[Devin Asay]

On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon  
> numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh well!

Pete,

You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start using it 
when it's opened by Stack Runner.

Devin


> 
> Pete Haworth
> 
> On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> 
>> On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
>>> Just started using this and very happy but have come across a problem
>>> regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image  
>>> library
>>> in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library  
>>> when
>>> specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and  
>>> standalone
>>> but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are
>>> invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any
>>> ideas as to why this might be happening?
>> 
>> The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library,  
>> but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always  
>> available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will  
>> change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those  
>> will work anywhere.
>> 
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>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Stackrunner

[Peter Haworth]

Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon  
numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh well!


Pete Haworth

On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

Just started using this and very happy but have come across a problem
regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image  
library
in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library  
when
specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and  
standalone

but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are
invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any
ideas as to why this might be happening?


The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library,  
but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always  
available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will  
change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those  
will work anywhere.


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