Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-09 Thread Dan Shafer
I started calling it Ringy Dingy Park. That way, whatever telephone/telco
conglomerate owns it, I'm right.

:-)

Dan

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 Stephen-

 Saturday, April 8, 2006, 5:09:14 PM, you wrote:

  Kinda like I can't say SBC park. I always call it PacBell park.

 You're in luck. It's ATT park or something these days. I still find
 myself calling it Candlestick...

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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-09 Thread Jim Hurley


Message: 22
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:52:17 -0700
From: Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Snip)
Meander thru the book store, look at the shelves and see the impact those
names have... a variety of reactions, I would imagine.  The C++ primer as
thick as your arm.

Now imagine Revolution snuggled between them in alphabetical order...
Revolution in 21 Days
Revolution Bible
Revolution Cross-Platform Made-Easy
Rev Desktop Reference
Revolution for Network Administrators
Revolution Externals Handbook
Revolution-ize Your Office
Eye-popping Rev Interfaces

Revolution for Dummies (which is when you know you have finally arrived)

Jim Ault
Las Vegas



Brilliant!

We need to put out a Revolution for Dummies. Maybe Dan would 
consider a re-write. He could do it in Transcript--I mean Revolution:


Put Revolution at the speed of thought into tText
replace Transcript with Revolution in tText
revPrintText tText

We haven't arrived, but people would think we have, and perception 
trumps reality.


Yet another Jim.
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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark-

Saturday, April 8, 2006, 7:32:05 PM, you wrote:

 No, Candlestick was re-christened Monster Park a couple of years ago,
 and the 49er's still play there. The Giants play at PacBell, aka SCC,
 aka ATT, aka ETC ETC ETC Park.

I know, but those old habits... Candlestick had some class. I've
gotten to like the new ballpark a bit, but it's sort of sterile.

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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Lynn-

Saturday, April 8, 2006, 10:04:03 PM, you wrote:

 Saturday, April 8, 2006, 3:03:13 PM, you wrote:
 
  !!! -- Exclamation would actually be a pretty cool name 
 if you think
 
 ...it would probably just remind me of has-been bivalves...

 Painful, Mark, that certainly was ;-)

Sorry... I thought you said exclamnation. Dyxlesia strikes again.

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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-09 Thread Rob Cozens


Mark,


I still find
myself calling it Candlestick...



Still?

What do you call that older ballpark down the peninsula?

:{`)

Rob

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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Bill Marriott
Bravo, congratulations, and kudos :)

Lynn Fredricks 
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 Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media
...
 Runtime Revolution also introduces new support and learning forums at
 http://forums.runrev.com. The new forums are set up by level so that those
 new to rich media can find exactly the information they want and need to
 extend their skill sets.



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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Robert Brenstein

Bravo, congratulations, and kudos :)

Lynn Fredricks
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 Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media

...

 Runtime Revolution also introduces new support and learning forums at

  http://forums.runrev.com. The new forums are set up by level so that those

 new to rich media can find exactly the information they want and need to

  extend their skill sets.



Nice. Are the forums intended to replace this list or as an 
additional service? I hope the latter.


Also, I find the following paragraph in the pr curious:


Step up to Revolution scripting. English-like Revolution is the easiest
scripting language available - easier than Javascript or Flash ActionScript.
Yet Revolution features all the modern language features that any developer
would expect.


Is Transcript now called Revolution as well or was it just a 
simplification for the press?


Robert
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RE: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 Bravo, congratulations, and kudos :)
 
 Lynn Fredricks 

Thanks Bill!

Best regards,


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RE: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hi Robert,

 Nice. Are the forums intended to replace this list or as an 
 additional service? I hope the latter.

http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=209#209

 Also, I find the following paragraph in the pr curious:
 
 Step up to Revolution scripting. English-like Revolution is 
 the easiest 
 scripting language available - easier than Javascript or 
 Flash ActionScript.
 Yet Revolution features all the modern language features that any 
 developer would expect.
 
 Is Transcript now called Revolution as well or was it just a 
 simplification for the press?

The language is now Revolution.


Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Dan Shafer
Lynn..

Wow. I was surprised to see your answer that the scripting language
Transcript is being renamed Revolution. How then will it be differentiated
from the product? Or won't it? Intriguing. Not criticizing, just wondering
and a bit bewildered.

On 4/8/06, Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Robert,

  Nice. Are the forums intended to replace this list or as an
  additional service? I hope the latter.

 http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=209#209

  Also, I find the following paragraph in the pr curious:
 
  Step up to Revolution scripting. English-like Revolution is
  the easiest
  scripting language available - easier than Javascript or
  Flash ActionScript.
  Yet Revolution features all the modern language features that any
  developer would expect.
 
  Is Transcript now called Revolution as well or was it just a
  simplification for the press?

 The language is now Revolution.


 Best regards,


 Lynn Fredricks
 Worldwide Business Operations
 Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Lynn-

Saturday, April 8, 2006, 8:18:17 AM, you wrote:

 Is Transcript now called Revolution as well or was it just a
 simplification for the press?

 The language is now Revolution.

!!!

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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III

Lynn

What is the thinking behind this? I am a little put off by the  
change. Hypercard had hypertalk, supercard had supertalk, director  
had lingo and Revolution had Transcript. I love the name transcript.


Thank you,

P.S. Congratulations on the Rev Media release.


Way to go.

Tom


On Apr 8, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:


The language is now Revolution.


Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd



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RE: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 Wow. I was surprised to see your answer that the scripting 
 language Transcript is being renamed Revolution. How then 
 will it be differentiated from the product? Or won't it? 
 Intriguing. Not criticizing, just wondering and a bit bewildered.

This is one of those situations where the lack of differentiation will
reinforce the brand. Most new customers wont have any preconceptions based
on the language Transcript, but they would if we decided to change the
name a year from now. Name changes can be rough, but, almost anyone who
would recognize transcript is engaged enough in the community not to be
completely confused by this name change.

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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RE: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
  The language is now Revolution.
 
 !!! -- Exclamation would actually be a pretty cool name if you think
about it :-)

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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RE: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Stephen Barncard
Funny about things like that, though. Think about Dan and other 
writers who have written about the language that are going to have to 
decide to replace all references in works published...


or steadfastly still use the term Transcript? I think, among this 
bunch, this will be the case.


Kinda like I can't say SBC park. I always call it PacBell park.
Sony Records is still CBS to me.

hey but I'm not the marketing guy. Good luck with all the products!



  Wow. I was surprised to see your answer that the scripting

 language Transcript is being renamed Revolution. How then
 will it be differentiated from the product? Or won't it?
 Intriguing. Not criticizing, just wondering and a bit bewildered.


This is one of those situations where the lack of differentiation will
reinforce the brand. Most new customers wont have any preconceptions based
on the language Transcript, but they would if we decided to change the
name a year from now. Name changes can be rough, but, almost anyone who
would recognize transcript is engaged enough in the community not to be
completely confused by this name change.

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd



--
stephen barncard
s a n  f r a n c i s c o
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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Jim Ault
On 4/8/06 5:09 PM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Funny about things like that, though. Think about Dan and other
 writers who have written about the language that are going to have to
 decide to replace all references in works published...
 
 or steadfastly still use the term Transcript? I think, among this
 bunch, this will be the case.
 
 Kinda like I can't say SBC park. I always call it PacBell park.
 Sony Records is still CBS to me.
 
 hey but I'm not the marketing guy. Good luck with all the products!
 
 Dan Shafer to Lynn Fredricks:  Wow. I was surprised to see your answer
  that the scripting
  language Transcript is being renamed Revolution. How then
  will it be differentiated from the product? Or won't it?
  Intriguing. Not criticizing, just wondering and a bit bewildered.

 And then think about programming in FoxPro, FileMaker, Flash
(brand names identified with the programming language)
as opposed to flavors of C, Pascal, (Borland, etc)
Environs like Dreamweaver, GoLive...

Meander thru the book store, look at the shelves and see the impact those
names have... a variety of reactions, I would imagine.  The C++ primer as
thick as your arm.

Now imagine Revolution snuggled between them in alphabetical order...
Revolution in 21 Days
Revolution Bible
Revolution Cross-Platform Made-Easy
Rev Desktop Reference
Revolution for Network Administrators
Revolution Externals Handbook
Revolution-ize Your Office
Eye-popping Rev Interfaces

Revolution for Dummies (which is when you know you have finally arrived)

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen-

Saturday, April 8, 2006, 5:09:14 PM, you wrote:

 Kinda like I can't say SBC park. I always call it PacBell park.

You're in luck. It's ATT park or something these days. I still find
myself calling it Candlestick...

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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Lynn-

Saturday, April 8, 2006, 3:03:13 PM, you wrote:

 !!! -- Exclamation would actually be a pretty cool name if you think

...it would probably just remind me of has-been bivalves...

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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Mark Swindell


On Apr 8, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:




Kinda like I can't say SBC park. I always call it PacBell park.


You're in luck. It's ATT park or something these days. I still find
myself calling it Candlestick...



No, Candlestick was re-christened Monster Park a couple of years ago,  
and the 49er's still play there. The Giants play at PacBell, aka SCC,  
aka ATT, aka ETC ETC ETC Park.

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Re: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Sivakatirswami
There is a standing joke among locals on our island of Kauai, where  
with 2 hurricanes in 20 years, hotels have changed hands and names so  
many times that no one can ever remember what actual location anyone  
is talking about anymore.  Since the hotels are also used as  
landmarks we have these crazed conversations that go like this:


#1 It's just past the Aston...

#2 Aston?  I think you mean Kauai Sands, right?

#3 No, they sold Kauai Sands, it's now Kapaa Shores

#4 Oh, I didn't know that...

Everyone breaks out laughing, but still mildly confused -- what place  
were you talking about, really?


Given that this problem already exists where

xTalk = all hotels, hypertalk is a dead hotel, Supertalk is a  
different hyperTalk that is still alive but only lives on the apple  
side of the island, and transcript is an xTalk that is an advancement  
over hypertalk but is not supertalk that lives where all fruits  
grow big blur...


When my support team for the new dedicated server at ServePath asks  
what's that code you use on your web server? I'm *already* saying  
to them oh that's Revolution.


I'm with Lynn this one: we will love coding, henceforth, in  
Revolution, I will know exactly where the hotel is and who owns it  
and I can give directions clearly and everyone I talk to knows  
exactly what I'm talking about:


#!/usr/local/bin/revolution






On Apr 08, 2006, at 12:03 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:


The language is now Revolution.


!!! -- Exclamation would actually be a pretty cool name if you think

about it :-)

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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RE: Runtime Revolution Ships Revolution Media; Announce Revolution Forums

2006-04-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 Saturday, April 8, 2006, 3:03:13 PM, you wrote:
 
  !!! -- Exclamation would actually be a pretty cool name 
 if you think
 
 ...it would probably just remind me of has-been bivalves...

Painful, Mark, that certainly was ;-)

Best regards,


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Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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