Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev
On Feb 20, 2005, at 3:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jonathan Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Frank, I just discovered something interesting while preparing to answer your questions: If you set your keyboard to U.S. Extended (unicode), you get very similar results to Apple Mail, except that, instead of the umlaut being highlighted, it has a heavy underline. Otherwise, using the U.S., British or Australian keyboards (via the Input tab of International System Preferences), you can still type ü in a Rev field (option-u, u); you just don't get any feedback until you type the (second) u. Jonathan, After a little further investigation, my problem is that I can't type foreign characters into my RunRev app's fields when I've got the US keyboard selected. If I select the British keyboard or the US Extended keyboard, then I can type ümlauts to my heart's content in my RunRev app. But not with the US keyboard. With the US keyboard selected I can type foreign characters in all other apps, just not in RunRev. Anyone have any ideas why this might be? (RunRev 2.2, Mac OS X 10.3.7) -- Frank Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev
Frank Leahy wrote: With the US keyboard selected I can type foreign characters in all other apps, just not in RunRev. Anyone have any ideas why this might be? (RunRev 2.2, Mac OS X 10.3.7) Hi Frank, This is a bug with Rev 2.2 and Panther. Things worked fine in Mac OS X 10.2 but not in 10.3. It is fixed in Rev 2.5. Dan Daniel B. Soneson Director, Language Lab Southern CT State University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev
here everything works as expected (with the swiss german and th US-keyboard). You just have to figure out the right keys. Till Am 14.02.2005 um 15:52 schrieb Frank Leahy: Xavier, Thanks, but I was looking for something that would emulate the way that it's done in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down option key and type u, see floating dots, type u and get ümlaut. I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you type accents and umlauts into Rev fields? What happens if you use a US keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you still type them? And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to show them in a Rev field? Thanks, -- Frank Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/ On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] boerse.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Na Frank, That should be a nice and simple keydown card message ... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 01:52 AM, Frank Leahy wrote: I was looking for something that would emulate the way that it's done in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down option key and type u, see floating dots, type u and get ümlaut. I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you type accents and umlauts into Rev fields? What happens if you use a US keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you still type them? Hi Frank, I just discovered something interesting while preparing to answer your questions: If you set your keyboard to U.S. Extended (unicode), you get very similar results to Apple Mail, except that, instead of the umlaut being highlighted, it has a heavy underline. Otherwise, using the U.S., British or Australian keyboards (via the Input tab of International System Preferences), you can still type ü in a Rev field (option-u, u); you just don't get any feedback until you type the (second) u. And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to show them in a Rev field? Rev doesn't store them, AFAIK; it's a system-wide thing. But in any app, you can show a naked umlaut by typing option-u, then space, a naked acute by typing option-e, then space, etc. Also, BTW, Jeanne de Voto wrote: you can get an accent character by itself by pressing the relevant key twice. (For example, to get an umlaut, press option-u option-u.) This doesn't work for me. Only option-u, [space] . HTH, -- Jonathan Cooper Manager of Information / WWW Art Gallery of New South Wales, Sydney, Australia http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/staff/jcooper -- Jonathan Cooper Manager of Information / WWW Art Gallery of New South Wales http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/staff/jcooper ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev
Na Frank, That should be a nice and simple keydown card message on keydown k if the hilite of btn typeGerman then get chartranlate[k] if it is empty then pass keydown else put it into the selection end if else pass keydown end keydown something like that... (not tested, from the hairloosing top of my head) ;) This way you dont need to type extra stuff but you do need to click the button on and off to choose what you type... Maybe you could also use the option or control key to switch modes... Another approach is to typre something like /u and later do a replace for each /a or /u into the letters you want... Hope that helps cheers Xavier On 14.02.2005 14:54:21 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I seem to be unable to type foreign characters into any RunRev (2.2) field, so it looks like I'll have to handle it myself. Here's what I want to do: When I type an ümlaut in Apple Mail, i.e. option-u followed by u, first it shows me that I'm in umlaut mode by giving showing floating dots above the (empty) character, and hiliting those dots with a yellow hiliter. Then, when I type u or o or any other character that is umlaut-able, it hides the yellow hiliting and inserts the correct character. This is a nice interface for knowing that you're in foreign character typing mode. Has anyone written a similar routine for RunRev? I'm about to write one, but if someone has some working code already and wanted to share it, I'd be most appreciative. Thanks in advance, -- Frank Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev
Frank Leahy skrev: I seem to be unable to type foreign characters into any RunRev (2.2) field, so it looks like I'll have to handle it myself. Here's what I want to do: When I type an ümlaut in Apple Mail, i.e. option-u followed by u, first it shows me that I'm in umlaut mode by giving showing floating dots above the (empty) character, and hiliting those dots with a yellow hiliter. Then, when I type u or o or any other character that is umlaut-able, it hides the yellow hiliting and inserts the correct character. This is a nice interface for knowing that you're in foreign character typing mode. Has anyone written a similar routine for RunRev? I'm about to write one, but if someone has some working code already and wanted to share it, I'd be most appreciative. If you just want to type umlaut's and accents in a field, remember that you have to press the umlaut/accent key first (without anything appearing on the screen). Then you press the letter, and both appears at the same time. Hope this was what you were looking for. Signe Marie Sanne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev
Xavier, Thanks, but I was looking for something that would emulate the way that it's done in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down option key and type u, see floating dots, type u and get ümlaut. I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you type accents and umlauts into Rev fields? What happens if you use a US keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you still type them? And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to show them in a Rev field? Thanks, -- Frank Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/ On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] boerse.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Na Frank, That should be a nice and simple keydown card message ... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev
Well well.. Im not confronted with that problem on windows ;)) Surely there must be a 3 year old bugzilla in red waiting for votes on this case... sorry I was useless... Xavier On 14.02.2005 15:52:25 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Xavier, Thanks, but I was looking for something that would emulate the way that it's done in every piece of software except Rev -- hold down option key and type u, see floating dots, type u and get ümlaut. I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you type accents and umlauts into Rev fields? What happens if you use a US keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you still type them? And a final question, does anyone know where the floating dots (or floating accent or floating tilda) characters are stored, and how to show them in a Rev field? Thanks, -- Frank Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/ On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] boerse.de Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Na Frank, That should be a nice and simple keydown card message ... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Typing foreign characters in RunRev
Hi Frank, Le 14 févr. 05, à 18:00, Frank Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm curious what our German, French and Portuguese Revers do.. Can you type accents and umlauts into Rev fields? What happens if you use a US keyboard instead of a German/French/Portuguese keyboard, can you still type them? The keyboards work differently according to the language and the keys are not the same in each language (I am telling about hardware). When a language uses often accentuated vowels, umlauts or tilde, the corresponding keyboard offers the right keys without any combination. You can get them too on any keyboard but you have to know how to get them and it's often a little tricky. If you don't count unicode languages, you can find more than 30 different standard keyboards... For instance the first keys are azerty in French, qwerz in German and qwerty in English... Imagine what happens for the other keys: ] in english is + in German, $ in French and Italian, a key combination in Spanish and Portuguese (but not the same: ` and ´), etc. Then, if you are using Mac OS X, activate the languages you want in the international preferences panel, ask for displaying the corresponding menu into the menubar and open the keyboard utility : you will able to test all the keyboards you desire :-) I never find such an utility in the Windows environment... Amicalement, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software Pour les institutionnels, les entreprises et les associations Des logiciels sur mesure : gestion, multimédia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS et Linux... Avec la french touch For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone 33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile 33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
