Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?

2010-06-17 Thread Gregory Lypny
Thanks Andre and Bob,

Good tips.  Never thought of console.  I'll have to add it as a must-do to my 
troubleshooting checklist.

Gregory


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Andre wrote:

> Gregory,
> 
> If you're felling like doing some unix, then you can launch console.app (not
> terminal.app, I keep mixing them) and check out the logs in there, specially
> system.log. There might be some hint in there. Once my system was taking
> about 10 minutes to boot up, after being fed up for months, I decided to
> look at the logs. What was happening was that once upon a time, I had
> installed parallels and vmware, their kernel stuff were still loading even
> though I did not had the apps anymore but the biggest criminal was an HP
> monitor thing for the printer that I don't have anymore that would stall the
> system for minutes while it loaded. Now I know better
> 
> Cheers
> andre

> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:14:08 -0700
> From: Bob Sneidar 
> Subject: Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?
> To: How to use Revolution 
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> 
> Be careful about the Console Logs tho'. There is a lot of normal stuff that 
> floats through there that looks like there is something wrong, but there 
> isn't. I spent a lot of time googling until I realized I was just chasing 
> ghosts. And IMHO HP is notorious for really badly written drivers, for both 
> PC and Mac. I bought 3 separate models of printers where the drivers on the 
> CD that came with it did not actually work! I always get the drivers from the 
> support site now. 
> 
> Bob
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Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?

2010-06-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
Be careful about the Console Logs tho'. There is a lot of normal stuff that 
floats through there that looks like there is something wrong, but there isn't. 
I spent a lot of time googling until I realized I was just chasing ghosts. And 
IMHO HP is notorious for really badly written drivers, for both PC and Mac. I 
bought 3 separate models of printers where the drivers on the CD that came with 
it did not actually work! I always get the drivers from the support site now. 

Bob


On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:21 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

> Gregory,
> 
> If you're felling like doing some unix, then you can launch console.app (not
> terminal.app, I keep mixing them) and check out the logs in there, specially
> system.log. There might be some hint in there. Once my system was taking
> about 10 minutes to boot up, after being fed up for months, I decided to
> look at the logs. What was happening was that once upon a time, I had
> installed parallels and vmware, their kernel stuff were still loading even
> though I did not had the apps anymore but the biggest criminal was an HP
> monitor thing for the printer that I don't have anymore that would stall the
> system for minutes while it loaded. Now I know better
> 
> Cheers
> andre

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Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?

2010-06-17 Thread Andre Garzia
Gregory,

If you're felling like doing some unix, then you can launch console.app (not
terminal.app, I keep mixing them) and check out the logs in there, specially
system.log. There might be some hint in there. Once my system was taking
about 10 minutes to boot up, after being fed up for months, I decided to
look at the logs. What was happening was that once upon a time, I had
installed parallels and vmware, their kernel stuff were still loading even
though I did not had the apps anymore but the biggest criminal was an HP
monitor thing for the printer that I don't have anymore that would stall the
system for minutes while it loaded. Now I know better

Cheers
andre

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Gregory Lypny
wrote:

> Thank you Stephan,
>
> I guess it was a memory blip.  A shut down and restart seems to have taken
> the molasses out of saving the stack.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gregory
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 9:09 AM, 
> use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.comwrote:
>
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:53:34 -0700
> > From: stephen barncard 
> > Subject: Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?
> > To: How to use Revolution 
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> >
> > Normal behavior. Rev saves a copy to revert to in case of
> > interruption/crash. This happens rarely but you'll be glad it backed up
> the
> > stack first someday. If someone pulled the plug in the middle of the
> save,
> > you'd still have something.
> >
> > On 16 June 2010 15:16, Gregory Lypny  wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> I was working on a stack today.  It has one substack.  Everything was
> going
> >> fine until I noticed that saving the stack was taking too long (it's
> small)
> >> and I was getting the spinning beach ball in Mac OS X.  I had the folder
> in
> >> which I store the stack open and noticed that during saving a duplicate
> file
> >> appears with tilde appended to the stack's extension as in
> stackName.rev~.
> >> When saving is finally complete, the duplicate with the tilde
> disappears.
> >> None of this happens with stacks that are working properly.  Does anyone
> >> know what the problem is?
> >>
> >> Gregory
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Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?

2010-06-17 Thread Gregory Lypny
Thank you Stephan,

I guess it was a memory blip.  A shut down and restart seems to have taken the 
molasses out of saving the stack.

Regards,

Gregory


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010, at 9:09 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:53:34 -0700
> From: stephen barncard 
> Subject: Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?
> To: How to use Revolution 
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> 
> Normal behavior. Rev saves a copy to revert to in case of
> interruption/crash. This happens rarely but you'll be glad it backed up the
> stack first someday. If someone pulled the plug in the middle of the save,
> you'd still have something.
> 
> On 16 June 2010 15:16, Gregory Lypny  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I was working on a stack today.  It has one substack.  Everything was going
>> fine until I noticed that saving the stack was taking too long (it's small)
>> and I was getting the spinning beach ball in Mac OS X.  I had the folder in
>> which I store the stack open and noticed that during saving a duplicate file
>> appears with tilde appended to the stack's extension as in stackName.rev~.
>> When saving is finally complete, the duplicate with the tilde disappears.
>> None of this happens with stacks that are working properly.  Does anyone
>> know what the problem is?
>> 
>> Gregory
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Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?

2010-06-16 Thread stephen barncard
I should say the tilde - backup thing is normal. What is causing the
slowdown I can't say, but perhaps it was just a system slowdown - memory
swap issue. If it came back and didn't crash, then it may not happen again.

On 16 June 2010 15:53, stephen barncard wrote:

> Normal behavior. Rev saves a copy to revert to in case of
> interruption/crash. This happens rarely but you'll be glad it backed up the
> stack first someday. If someone pulled the plug in the middle of the save,
> you'd still have something.
>
>
> On 16 June 2010 15:16, Gregory Lypny  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I was working on a stack today.  It has one substack.  Everything was
>> going fine until I noticed that saving the stack was taking too long (it's
>> small) and I was getting the spinning beach ball
>
>
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Re: What's With the Tilde After the Stack File Extension?

2010-06-16 Thread stephen barncard
Normal behavior. Rev saves a copy to revert to in case of
interruption/crash. This happens rarely but you'll be glad it backed up the
stack first someday. If someone pulled the plug in the middle of the save,
you'd still have something.

On 16 June 2010 15:16, Gregory Lypny  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I was working on a stack today.  It has one substack.  Everything was going
> fine until I noticed that saving the stack was taking too long (it's small)
> and I was getting the spinning beach ball in Mac OS X.  I had the folder in
> which I store the stack open and noticed that during saving a duplicate file
> appears with tilde appended to the stack's extension as in stackName.rev~.
>  When saving is finally complete, the duplicate with the tilde disappears.
>  None of this happens with stacks that are working properly.  Does anyone
> know what the problem is?
>
> Gregory
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