Re: Educational stacks
Glen, Can you give me a better idea of what you have and what you want to do? Judy On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Glen Bojsza wrote: Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has used Revolution in creating 1. A multiple choice quiz stack? 2. A multimedia training stack ? My interest is in the look and feel from the user experience and how self-contained training modules show flow. I have all the content material for several modules but lack the experience on the educational side in how best design the courses and test the users. thanks in advance, Glen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Educational stacks
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 , Glen Bojsza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has used Revolution in creating 1. A multiple choice quiz stack? 2. A multimedia training stack ? My interest is in the look and feel from the user experience and how self-contained training modules show flow. I have all the content material for several modules but lack the experience on the educational side in how best design the courses and test the users. thanks in advance, Glen Hello Glen, This question comes up in regular intervals. Some hints: - There are some educational stacks to be found at RevOnline. - Marielle Lange has set up a special website for educational stacks: http://revolution.widged.com/wiki/tiki-index.php - As far as I know, Marty Billingsley of the Chicago Laboratory School (founded by John Dewey at about 1895 as an institution of Progressive Education) persues the work of Dewey using Revolution both for teaching and for introducing students to programming (search the list archives for more information). - There is a education-revolution list - I had anwered to a similar post on this list (use-revolution) on Feb 7: There are some educational stacks on my website http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia you could check out: On page Tools and Samples for Development - Seminar01 (A stack from 2001: step by step introduction - however in German, but the scripts are of course in English - for different kinds of basic educational software, among them a stepwise development of a simple vocabulary trainer) - Multiple-Choice Tutorial (see also the broader information for this stack on page Tutorials) On page Sample Stacks - Image and Words - Animals - and possibly Word Scramble. On page Student Samples there is one stack German States for learning to match the names of the German states and their flags and other exercises. This stack is an exe-file, but may be interesting to inspect because of the pedagogical design. On page Projects: Language Suite you will find some information (although still in German) about some language learning stacks. We intend to make demo versions available of these stacks in the near future. Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Educational stacks
Hello Glen, You wrote: Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has used Revolution in creating 1. A multiple choice quiz stack? (snip) As an addendum to my previous post three hours ago: You can find Steve Messimers Preceptor Tools, which very much rely on the multiple-choice principle, here : ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/third-party/preceptortools. There is also a stack Multiple Choice Questionnaire in folder sample projects of the Revolution distribution. This stack might be interesting as an example how specific questions of constructing multiple-choice exercises are addressed and programmed, otherwise it is very much sub-standard. At best it could serve as a starting point - maybe it is intended as such - for developing exercises that are nearer to state-of-the-art and state-of-the-discussion standards concerning multiple choice. As an educational format, multiple-choice is very much disputed and discouraged. Very often, multiple-choice exercises do not clearly distinguish in their objectives, e.g. are they intended for teaching, learning, or simply testing? More modern teaching and testing procedures try to minimize the role of multiple-choice. Even the American SAT, which very much relied on multiple-choice, is slowly steering away from this format as it adds more and more essay and open-ended parts where you actively have to produce responses and not only to recall and choose from preselected answers. So does the FCAT, the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test, which is applied at various grade levels in Florida schools and the main threshold you have to pass to get your high-school diploma. But designing multiple-choice exercises can be a nice programming enterprise; this is what I had in mind when I produced my multiple-choice tutorial. And, indeed, a carefully designed multiple-choice exercise can be useful as a *part* of more comprehensive teaching, learning, and testing strategies. Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Educational stacks
Wilhelm, Thanks for the information which will take a little digesting. To answer Judy's question - I am trying to create custome learning modules that explain very specific telecommunications technology by means of visual animation and user interaction which needs to be tested for to see if the key points were understood. The trick with using multiple choice testing is to word the question and answers so that the correct solution is not quite obvious. It would be better to have essay style questions but then support for correcting and giving feedback becomes an issue. So for a start I will look at Wilhelm's suggestions and see where it goes. thanks, On 3/15/06, Wilhelm Sanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Glen, You wrote: Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has used Revolution in creating 1. A multiple choice quiz stack? (snip) As an addendum to my previous post three hours ago: You can find Steve Messimers Preceptor Tools, which very much rely on the multiple-choice principle, here : ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/third-party/preceptortools . There is also a stack Multiple Choice Questionnaire in folder sample projects of the Revolution distribution. This stack might be interesting as an example how specific questions of constructing multiple-choice exercises are addressed and programmed, otherwise it is very much sub-standard. At best it could serve as a starting point - maybe it is intended as such - for developing exercises that are nearer to state-of-the-art and state-of-the-discussion standards concerning multiple choice. As an educational format, multiple-choice is very much disputed and discouraged. Very often, multiple-choice exercises do not clearly distinguish in their objectives, e.g. are they intended for teaching, learning, or simply testing? More modern teaching and testing procedures try to minimize the role of multiple-choice. Even the American SAT, which very much relied on multiple-choice, is slowly steering away from this format as it adds more and more essay and open-ended parts where you actively have to produce responses and not only to recall and choose from preselected answers. So does the FCAT, the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test, which is applied at various grade levels in Florida schools and the main threshold you have to pass to get your high-school diploma. But designing multiple-choice exercises can be a nice programming enterprise; this is what I had in mind when I produced my multiple-choice tutorial. And, indeed, a carefully designed multiple-choice exercise can be useful as a *part* of more comprehensive teaching, learning, and testing strategies. Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: educational stacks
Hi Chris, Have you tried using a preceptorTools generic module? The generic module allows you to roll your own instructional design. it is a stack that contains about 25 content cards and a prebuilt navigation system. Everything that goes on the cards is up to you. No Objectives or lengthy instructions required. PreceptorTools was designed for just the kind of applications you suggest. If you have any questions about how you might do this I would be happy to help you get started. Regards Steve PS. Thanks for giving preceptorTools a tryout in any case. :-) Stephen R. Messimer, PA 208 1st Ave. South Escanaba, MI 49829 http://www.messimercomputing.com -- Build Computer-Based Training modules FAST with preceptorTools -- version 1.0.5 available Now! On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 06:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am the teaching principal of a small, rural school in Far North Queensland, Australia. I am also a new Revolution user/ programmer. After 'playing' with Revolution 1.1.1. I have become quite excited about developing some standalone applications for my 6 to 12 year old students. Ideally these would work like the Revolution Documentation included in the program itself. That is, they have a simple graphic, an interactive menu and hyperlinks. Much like a webpage, but in a standalone program. To save building these from scratch, I was hoping it might be possible to obtain some stacks that already do this; or modify the Revolution Documentation stacks themselves to include the content, links, images, etc. applicable to my children. I am aware of the Preceptor Tools stacks and have tinkered with them - but they are too much for what I'm after. Consequently, is it possible to 'hack' the Revolution Documentation stacks? Or are you able to direct me towards a freely available stack that can be modified accordingly? Thanks for your time and consideration. I look forward to your replies. Regards, Chris Honan Curriculum Leader Upper Barron State School Kennedy Highway, via Atherton. Qld 4883 Australia Ph: 07 40950221 Fax: 07 40950101 http://upperbarronss.eq.edu.au Stephen R. Messimer, PA 208 1st Ave. South Escanaba, MI 49829 http://www.messimercomputing.com -- Build Computer-Based Training modules FAST with preceptorTools -- version 1.0.5 available Now! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: educational stacks
is it possible to 'hack' the Revolution Documentation stacks? G'day, Chris: I don't see why not: I have hacked operational Revolution stacks (eg: revmenubar.rev and revdbquerysetup.rev). Just duplicate the Revolution stack and rename it so it doesn't start with rev. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
