Re: Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Thanks for your replies. That is a good starting point. What I am exactly after is some kind of pros and cons list that goes into detail on stability and security. Maybe some ISPs experiences things that went good or wrong. Perhaps a list with succesfull uses of revCGI. Jaque wrote: The good part is that you don't have to know ahead of time. The CGI script will error and then you check the error log. The missing libraries will be listed there, so all you have to do is holler at the ISP and tell them to get those installed. This is interesting. Where is the error log stored? Will I have access to it? Or is it something only the ISP will see. Thanks, Malte --- ArcadeEngine - prepare to WOW your audience within minutes http://www.runrev.com/section/revselect/arcadeengine http://www.derbrill.com/arcadeengine/forum ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Could someone point me in the direction of these getting started pages? I've been working on a project that will require CGI's and rev might just be the easiest way for me to get this done. Thanks!! On Jul 23, 2005, at 5:25 PM, Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´ve talked to my ISP if it was possible to use rev CGI on their servers. They are potentially interested to allow it, but need more technical details on stability, security, etc. . So if there is some kind of FAQ on Rev CGIs somewhere or some articles (besides the excellent getting started pages by Jaque) I would be glad if you let me know. Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Malte Brill wrote: Thanks for your replies. That is a good starting point. What I am exactly after is some kind of pros and cons list that goes into detail on stability and security. Maybe some ISPs experiences things that went good or wrong. Perhaps a list with succesfull uses of revCGI. In a discussion about this a few years ago, Scott Raney said that he couldn't think of any insecurities with CGIs that were innate to the engine. There aren't any loopholes per se; the problems would be only in your scripts. Your CGI scripts should not parse parameters indisciminately -- instead, they need to check that params are correct and only act if that is the case. In other words, your scripts might allow indiscriminate access, but the engine doesn't. Jaque wrote: The good part is that you don't have to know ahead of time. The CGI script will error and then you check the error log. The missing libraries will be listed there, so all you have to do is holler at the ISP and tell them to get those installed. This is interesting. Where is the error log stored? Will I have access to it? Or is it something only the ISP will see. It depends on your ISP, but every one I've ever had gave me access to the error log. My ISP has an entry in my control panel online where I can see it. You'll have to ask where your provider keeps it, but I am fairly sure you can have access. It is a normal part of debugging a web site. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Wally Rodriguez wrote: Could someone point me in the direction of these getting started pages? I've been working on a project that will require CGI's and rev might just be the easiest way for me to get this done. Here you go: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/index.html -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
On Jul 23, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´ve talked to my ISP if it was possible to use rev CGI on their servers. They are potentially interested to allow it, but need more technical details on stability, security, etc. . So if there is some kind of FAQ on Rev CGIs somewhere or some articles (besides the excellent getting started pages by Jaque) I would be glad if you let me know. I keep forgetting which additional libraries need to be installed with the engine to do that. Anyone have those handy? I don't think they need any non standard library. For the newer engines they need libC (GLIBC) 2.3, but that comes with any recent linux... Cheers andre -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Depends on the distro. FreeBSD, for example, apparently does not yet support this, nor does Debian. dan On Jul 24, 2005, at 6:45 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: For the newer engines they need libC (GLIBC) 2.3, but that comes with any recent linux... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Depends on the distro. FreeBSD, for example, apparently does not yet support this Funny, I just started doing CGI and it was on FreeBSD. No problems! I just went to the rev site and got the proper Unix version. (I did this about 3 weeks ago) tm ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Andre Garzia wrote: On Jul 23, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´ve talked to my ISP if it was possible to use rev CGI on their servers. They are potentially interested to allow it, but need more technical details on stability, security, etc. . So if there is some kind of FAQ on Rev CGIs somewhere or some articles (besides the excellent getting started pages by Jaque) I would be glad if you let me know. I keep forgetting which additional libraries need to be installed with the engine to do that. Anyone have those handy? I don't think they need any non standard library. For the newer engines they need libC (GLIBC) 2.3, but that comes with any recent linux... My understanding is that manu ISPs don't install all of the libraries one would install for desktop use, and that three (?) of those are needed for Rev to work as a CGI. Did this change in a recent version? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Richard Gaskin wrote: My understanding is that manu ISPs don't install all of the libraries one would install for desktop use, and that three (?) of those are needed for Rev to work as a CGI. Did this change in a recent version? I don't know, but probably not. When I first started with CGIs at my ISP, they were missing two libraries. I think Ken Ray had the same two missing on his. Other people have reported only one missing. I guess it depends on the hosted installation. The good part is that you don't have to know ahead of time. The CGI script will error and then you check the error log. The missing libraries will be listed there, so all you have to do is holler at the ISP and tell them to get those installed. Someone once told me you don't even need the real libraries; that all you need are empty text files in the right place with the right names. I don't know if that is really true, since my ISP went ahead and installed the ones I was missing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
I misspoke. It is the Debian distro that's at fault, apparently. It needs some C lib that isn't included. dan On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:16 PM, Thomas McCarthy wrote: Depends on the distro. FreeBSD, for example, apparently does not yet support this Funny, I just started doing CGI and it was on FreeBSD. No problems! I just went to the rev site and got the proper Unix version. (I did this about 3 weeks ago) tm ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Hi list, I´ve talked to my ISP if it was possible to use rev CGI on their servers. They are potentially interested to allow it, but need more technical details on stability, security, etc. . So if there is some kind of FAQ on Rev CGIs somewhere or some articles (besides the excellent getting started pages by Jaque) I would be glad if you let me know. Cheers, Malte ArcadeEngine - prepare to WOW your audience within minutes http://www.runrev.com/section/revselect/arcadeengine http://www.derbrill.com/arcadeengine/forum ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´ve talked to my ISP if it was possible to use rev CGI on their servers. They are potentially interested to allow it, but need more technical details on stability, security, etc. . So if there is some kind of FAQ on Rev CGIs somewhere or some articles (besides the excellent getting started pages by Jaque) I would be glad if you let me know. I keep forgetting which additional libraries need to be installed with the engine to do that. Anyone have those handy? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev CGI argumets for ISP
I found an old message on the Metacard list archives about this: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/msg07942.html At that time (22 Jan 2003) the lib in question was 'libXext.so.6'. Phil Davis Richard Gaskin wrote: Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´ve talked to my ISP if it was possible to use rev CGI on their servers. They are potentially interested to allow it, but need more technical details on stability, security, etc. . So if there is some kind of FAQ on Rev CGIs somewhere or some articles (besides the excellent getting started pages by Jaque) I would be glad if you let me know. I keep forgetting which additional libraries need to be installed with the engine to do that. Anyone have those handy? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
