Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-04 Thread JosepM

Yes.
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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-03 Thread David Bovill
On 3 October 2010 00:33, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:


 I would still hope we can talk about things here, because much of it would
 be of general interest, mobile is becoming more important in general, and
 even though I'm interested in mobile, I'm not interested in yet another
 email list!


Yes - please not another email list, yahoo group, forum, paid for
improvements something. Can we not have a well thought out community
development strategy, that includes modern collaborative techniques? In the
mean time let's at least use one email list, as it works - in a sort of last
century way.
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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-03 Thread René Micout
YES !

Le 3 oct. 2010 à 14:28, David Bovill a écrit :

 On 3 October 2010 00:33, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 
 I would still hope we can talk about things here, because much of it would
 be of general interest, mobile is becoming more important in general, and
 even though I'm interested in mobile, I'm not interested in yet another
 email list!
 
 
 Yes - please not another email list, yahoo group, forum, paid for
 improvements something. Can we not have a well thought out community
 development strategy, that includes modern collaborative techniques? In the
 mean time let's at least use one email list, as it works - in a sort of last
 century way.
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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-03 Thread Michael D Mays
On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

 
 On Oct 2, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Michael D Mays wrote:
 
 Back in March and April in the pre-Alpha release notices there was mention 
 of setting up a such discussion group. The release in August did not. I was 
 hoping it had been set up.
 
 
 I would still hope we can talk about things here, because much of it would be 
 of general interest, mobile is becoming more important in general, and even 
 though I'm interested in mobile, I'm not interested in yet another email list!

Aside from talking about talking RevMobile here I would think that in general 
discussions about alpha software might need to be somewhat private about some 
things and have more active/visible participation by the developers of the 
software. 

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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-03 Thread David Bovill
On 3 October 2010 17:40, Michael D Mays mich...@michaelsmanias.com wrote:


 Aside from talking about talking RevMobile here I would think that in
 general discussions about alpha software might need to be somewhat private
 about some things and have more active/visible participation by the
 developers of the software.


Definitely! We' all benefit from RunRev opening up the development dialogue
in a managed way. We'd get a heads up on what was coming and help shape and
fix bugs in the forthcoming product, and RunRev would get a happier
community and less bugs. It cant be done for everything, but it sure could
be done for a lot more things.

A classic example is the On-Rev client. Locking that thing up in a
standalone was completely pointless. Active members of the community could
have rolled their own versions of a client (ie based on an informal API),
that would have been orders of magnitude better than the current offering.

It would not have mattered if this API moved fast (it hasn't anyway), nor
would it matter if they withdrew the API / charged for it / locked things
down afterwards (as long as we knew this was a possibility up front).

We can only hope that this old-school business logic is replaced by a saner
cooperation with developers, a saner use of common technologies to integrate
the various lists, forums, and bug tracking, and an intelligent use of open
content licensing for some of the IDE components.
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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-03 Thread stephen barncard
yes! Runrev, PLEASE FREE THE ON-REV CLIENT and API.

What is the big secret, anyway?


sqb

On 3 October 2010 13:55, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tv wrote:

 On 3 October 2010 17:40, Michael D Mays mich...@michaelsmanias.com
 wrote:

 A classic example is the On-Rev client. Locking that thing up in a
 standalone was completely pointless. Active members of the community could
 have rolled their own versions of a client (ie based on an informal API),
 that would have been orders of magnitude better than the current offering.

 It would not have mattered if this API moved fast (it hasn't anyway), nor
 would it matter if they withdrew the API / charged for it / locked things
 down afterwards (as long as we knew this was a possibility up front).

 We can only hope that this old-school business logic is replaced by a saner
 cooperation with developers, a saner use of common technologies to
 integrate
 the various lists, forums, and bug tracking, and an intelligent use of open
 content licensing for some of the IDE components.
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RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-02 Thread Michael D Mays
Is this the or is there a place for RevMobile discussions?

Thanks,
Michael
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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-02 Thread Colin Holgate

On Oct 2, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Michael D Mays wrote:

 Is this the or is there a place for RevMobile discussions?

I would think that here would be a good place. It's not really any different 
than if you were asking about a standalone specific issue, there isn't a 
special forum just for that.
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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-02 Thread Dar Scott

On Oct 2, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Michael D Mays wrote:

Is this the or is there a place for RevMobile discussions?


I cannot answer your question.

I can say that I would not mind.

I had assumed this is where others would focus and I might focus on  
other things, but it looks like revMobile is in my future, even in  
communicating with my microcontroller work.


The new licensing makes updating to revMobile licenses just-in-time  
and low cost, so anybody is just a few steps away.


Dar Scott


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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-02 Thread Michael D Mays
Back in March and April in the pre-Alpha release notices there was mention of 
setting up a such discussion group. The release in August did not. I was hoping 
it had been set up.

Thanks,
Michael

On Oct 2, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Dar Scott wrote:

 On Oct 2, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Michael D Mays wrote:
 Is this the or is there a place for RevMobile discussions?
 
 I cannot answer your question.
 
 I can say that I would not mind.
 
 I had assumed this is where others would focus and I might focus on other 
 things, but it looks like revMobile is in my future, even in communicating 
 with my microcontroller work.
 
 The new licensing makes updating to revMobile licenses just-in-time and low 
 cost, so anybody is just a few steps away.
 
 Dar Scott
 


On Oct 2, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:

 
 On Oct 2, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Michael D Mays wrote:
 
 
 Is this the or is there a place for RevMobile discussions?
 
 I would think that here would be a good place. It's not really any different 
 than if you were asking about a standalone specific issue, there isn't a 
 special forum just for that.
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Re: RevMobile Discussions

2010-10-02 Thread Colin Holgate

On Oct 2, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Michael D Mays wrote:

 Back in March and April in the pre-Alpha release notices there was mention of 
 setting up a such discussion group. The release in August did not. I was 
 hoping it had been set up.


I would still hope we can talk about things here, because much of it would be 
of general interest, mobile is becoming more important in general, and even 
though I'm interested in mobile, I'm not interested in yet another email list!



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