Re: RunRev logos
I would like a horizontally oriented logo to use. The current logos are too vertically oriented for where I'd like to place them. The RealBasic logo image that is commonly used is an example of what I'm talking about. Bill On Aug 24, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: It would be useful if a high-resolution version, a small 72dpi version, and a EPS version of the RunRev logo in the current style were always available on the RunRev web site, together with high-res pictures of the RunRev staff ;-) I think this is easy enough to do. There's been a press page planned for some time with support materials that can have these sizes plus some - minus the runrev staff photos ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev logos
> It would be useful if a high-resolution version, a small > 72dpi version, and a EPS version of the RunRev logo in the > current style were always available on the RunRev web site, > together with high-res pictures of the RunRev staff ;-) I think this is easy enough to do. There's been a press page planned for some time with support materials that can have these sizes plus some - minus the runrev staff photos ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Garrett, if you don't get it you don't get it. You can't even read the statement correctly, which used the phrase 'Encouraged to use logos' NOT 'must use'. You're just looking for a fight. A troller. Quite frankly, something about Rev really bugs you, and it's not the software. Perhaps you don't like our culture, and your posts have often been provocative and pugilistic. If you don't come into this scene with an open heart, then you won't get what you want. This goes for life too. Get one. So if you must leave, leave now. Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm sick of hearing your childish rants, and how we're a bunch of losers because we subscribe to Revolution. sqb Garrett Hylltun wrote: Ok... Well that just put the nail in the coffin for me and Rev. I didn't pay all this damn money so I could put their copyright statement along with mine on anything I do. If this was a free version I was using then I c keep your blinders on and praise it all you want, but for me, I'm out of here! -Garrett -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Mark Schonewille wrote: It would be useful if a high-resolution version, a small 72dpi version, and a EPS version of the RunRev logo in the current style were always available on the RunRev web site, together with high-res pictures of the RunRev staff ;-) In kilts. :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Lynn, It would be useful if a high-resolution version, a small 72dpi version, and a EPS version of the RunRev logo in the current style were always available on the RunRev web site, together with high-res pictures of the RunRev staff ;-) Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Convert HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. Download it at http:// differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 22-aug-2006, om 23:46 heeft Lynn Fredricks het volgende geschreven: If there is a specific set of size/formats that everyone wants, I can have these put together in a separate download. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RunRev logos
If there is a specific set of size/formats that everyone wants, I can have these put together in a separate download. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Garrett Hylltun wrote: I didn't pay all this damn money so I could put their copyright statement along with mine on anything I do. It's pretty much boilerplate standard. Look in any About box or credits listing for almost any product and you'll see attributions for other development systems. I recall "Portions copyright by Think C" on almost every program I ran on OS 9. The attribution does not have to be prominent, nor do you need to use the logo, nor do you need to make a big deal out of it. I generally put a tiny line of type at the bottom of a credits listing. That's all that's needed. And when it comes right down to it, I doubt very much that RR will prosecute you if you happen to omit it. This is really a minor thing to get upset about. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Do you really mean to say that since Rev apparently doesn't provide the cost/benefit that you want, any and all of 'us' are wearing 'blinders' if we have had a different experience? That is fairly insulting. Still, best of luck, Mark On 22 Aug 2006, at 20:44, Garrett Hylltun wrote: The rest of you can continue to keep your blinders on and praise it all you want, but for me, I'm out of here! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Garrett wrote: In the license agreement, there is a Revolution copyright statement that you must include along with your own copyright statements. Including the rev logo is optional, but encouraged. Ok... Well that just put the nail in the coffin for me and Rev. I didn't pay all this damn money so I could put their copyright statement along with mine on anything I do. If this was a free version I was using then I could see doing something like that, even putting their logo all over it, but not after having to pay so much money, and continue to pay so much money if I want updates or upgrade/ updates, or whatever they want to call them. Most companies charge for upgrades, and I haven't seen a software package yet that doesn't have bugs. The trick of course is to find the right balance between bugs and marketability. I don't have the stats on how Rev measures up against other apps for bugs/KLOC, but for myself and most of the folks here the balance is in their favor relative to the productivity it allows me to deliver to my clients. Search for "good enough software" for some good reading on the topic; there are some who argue against shipping with any known bugs, and indeed I try to get my own stuff as close to that as practical, but in general the "Good Enough" philosophy helps apps ship and delivers more value to customers more quickly than attempting perfection. As for the copyright notice, I think you'll find that with just about any libraries, components, frameworks, or anything else. Modern software is just too complex to write without using at least a framework written by someone else, and that someone usually wants appropriate copyright protection for their contribution. Going back as far as MacApp Apple required a notice, THINK C required one, Code Warrior required one, and Rev requires one. It's pretty customary, unless you're writing everything 100% from scratch. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Garrett This fairly standard verbiage and should be no big deal. If you pay attention to the software you use daily, I bet you'll find a number of programs that include a statement something like this: "Portions copyright(c) ...some other guy's software company" I can't recall offhand where I've seen it before, but I know I have. In fact, I'm pretty sure I ended up having to give credit to Apple for something or another when I published my software. Marian On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:44 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote: On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:30 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Garrett Hylltun wrote: On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: [snip] The license still 'encourages' us to place these logos. U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps? -Garrett In the license agreement, there is a Revolution copyright statement that you must include along with your own copyright statements. Including the rev logo is optional, but encouraged. Ok... Well that just put the nail in the coffin for me and Rev. I didn't pay all this damn money so I could put their copyright statement along with mine on anything I do. If this was a free version I was using then I could see doing something like that, even putting their logo all over it, but not after having to pay so much money, and continue to pay so much money if I want updates or upgrade/updates, or whatever they want to call them. It's buggy, too expensive, price structure that's intended to suck the blood of it's users, introducing new features, err, bugs in updates instead of focusing on smashing as many bugs as possible already in Rev On and on and on the list goes why Rev is such a major disappointment. I feel like I've been totally ripped off here. The rest of you can continue to keep your blinders on and praise it all you want, but for me, I'm out of here! -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:30 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Garrett Hylltun wrote: On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: [snip] The license still 'encourages' us to place these logos. U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps? -Garrett In the license agreement, there is a Revolution copyright statement that you must include along with your own copyright statements. Including the rev logo is optional, but encouraged. Ok... Well that just put the nail in the coffin for me and Rev. I didn't pay all this damn money so I could put their copyright statement along with mine on anything I do. If this was a free version I was using then I could see doing something like that, even putting their logo all over it, but not after having to pay so much money, and continue to pay so much money if I want updates or upgrade/ updates, or whatever they want to call them. It's buggy, too expensive, price structure that's intended to suck the blood of it's users, introducing new features, err, bugs in updates instead of focusing on smashing as many bugs as possible already in Rev On and on and on the list goes why Rev is such a major disappointment. I feel like I've been totally ripped off here. The rest of you can continue to keep your blinders on and praise it all you want, but for me, I'm out of here! -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Garrett Hylltun wrote: On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: [snip] The license still 'encourages' us to place these logos. U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps? -Garrett In the license agreement, there is a Revolution copyright statement that you must include along with your own copyright statements. Including the rev logo is optional, but encouraged. Martin Baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Hi Bill, Yes, I wish they had just given us a decent .eps you'll find some EPS files in that folder, too 8-) The license still 'encourages' us to place these logos. U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps? and some of the logos seem very messed up (the small pct, png and gif) - it looks like the image has been scaled to make it smaller than the full size version, but there's a white cutout that's still the full size and the image is being drawn onto that. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Yes, I wish they had just given us a decent .eps >>>The license still 'encourages' us to place these >>>logos. >> >>U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're >>suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps? > > and some of the logos seem very messed up (the small pct, png and gif) - > it looks like the image has been scaled to make it smaller than the full > size version, but there's a white cutout that's still the full size and > the image is being drawn onto that. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: [snip] The license still 'encourages' us to place these logos. U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps? and some of the logos seem very messed up (the small pct, png and gif) - it looks like the image has been scaled to make it smaller than the full size version, but there's a white cutout that's still the full size and the image is being drawn onto that. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: [snip] The license still 'encourages' us to place these logos. U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps? -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
On 8/22/06, J. Landman Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sarah Reichelt wrote: > In earlier versions of Revolution, they used to supply a set of image > files with RunRev logos which we were supposed to display in our apps. > I cannot find these files in any 2.7.x folders. I guess I can dig back > through my archives and find older copies, but does this mean it is no > longer expected that we give credit to RunRev in our apps? They used > to supply some text as well. > > What's the story and what should I do? I've got a folder called "Supporting Materials" in the root level of my Revolution Enterprise main folder, the one that holds all the various versions. The logos are in there. Ah yes, I see it now. I was looking in the version folders a level down from that. Thanks. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
Sarah Reichelt wrote: In earlier versions of Revolution, they used to supply a set of image files with RunRev logos which we were supposed to display in our apps. I cannot find these files in any 2.7.x folders. I guess I can dig back through my archives and find older copies, but does this mean it is no longer expected that we give credit to RunRev in our apps? They used to supply some text as well. What's the story and what should I do? I've got a folder called "Supporting Materials" in the root level of my Revolution Enterprise main folder, the one that holds all the various versions. The logos are in there. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
--- Sarah Reichelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In earlier versions of Revolution, they used to > supply a set of image > files with RunRev logos which we were supposed to > display in our apps. > I cannot find these files in any 2.7.x folders. I > guess I can dig back > through my archives and find older copies, but does > this mean it is no > longer expected that we give credit to RunRev in our > apps? They used > to supply some text as well. > > What's the story and what should I do? > > Cheers, > Sarah > Hi Sarah, They're still there, but no longer a copy per version. On Windows, inside the \Program Files\Revolution [Media|Studio|Enterprise] directory is a subdirectory 'Supporting Materials' which has a subdirectory 'Made With Logos'. Likewise on MacOS, in your /Applications/Revolution [Media|Studio|Enterprise] folder you'll find a folder 'Supporting Materials' which has a subfolder 'Made With Logos' The license still 'encourages' us to place these logos. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports for Revolution <http://www.quartam.com> = "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RunRev logos
In earlier versions of Revolution, they used to supply a set of image files with RunRev logos which we were supposed to display in our apps. I cannot find these files in any 2.7.x folders. I guess I can dig back through my archives and find older copies, but does this mean it is no longer expected that we give credit to RunRev in our apps? They used to supply some text as well. What's the story and what should I do? Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution