Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
From: "Sarah Reichelt" It sounds like the filter on your answer file is not matching your data file type correctly. Try using answer file without any filters and see if that works. Yup. That was it. Runs fine without the filter. This is great! My little hypertext-doc-building app now runs on Linux, Win, and Mac, and the data files swap across platforms with no glitches. I can use my app to build its own documentation now! Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
On 12/6/05 6:56 AM, "Jerry Muelver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jerry, I'll contact you offlist to follow up on this so we can patch >> StackRunner to make it work for you situation. >> > > Looks like it was me, not StackRunner, Ken. I tweaked my stack to fix some > file-processing glitches. Then I fed the fixed stack to StackRunner and it > ran perfectly! Superb product, Ken! Glad to hear it, Jerry! If you run into any other issues, let me know... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
From: "Ken Ray" On 12/5/05 8:23 PM, "Jerry Muelver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ken, StackRunner won't even run the stack on Win XP. It just goes away after I select the stack file. On Mac, is showed the same reluctance to access the file as Dreamcard Player. Jerry, I'll contact you offlist to follow up on this so we can patch StackRunner to make it work for you situation. Looks like it was me, not StackRunner, Ken. I tweaked my stack to fix some file-processing glitches. Then I fed the fixed stack to StackRunner and it ran perfectly! Superb product, Ken! Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
On 12/5/05 10:12 PM, "Rishi Viner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Ken, > > Here is one little vote for a Linux version of StackRunner! That would be > really handy for me for all my in-house stuff. Being able to configure things > to start on a double click, without the need to use a file picker each time > you want to run a stack would be great! Thanks, Rishi... I'm hoping to have it ready by the end of the year... :-) I'll make an announcement to the list when it happens. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
On 12/5/05 8:23 PM, "Jerry Muelver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken, StackRunner won't even run the stack on Win XP. It just goes away after > I select the stack file. On Mac, is showed the same reluctance to access the > file as Dreamcard Player. Jerry, I'll contact you offlist to follow up on this so we can patch StackRunner to make it work for you situation. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
On 12/5/05 8:46 PM, "Charles Hartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I recommend StackRunner for those times when you just want to ship >> stacks. It is zero hassle -- you just send out StackRunner and your >> stack in a single folder. Very easy. > > And -- let me say again, on behalf of the "'hobbyists'" among us -- a > whole brave new world for users of Dreamcard. Thanks to both of you for the kudos. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
Hi Ken, Here is one little vote for a Linux version of StackRunner! That would be really handy for me for all my in-house stuff. Being able to configure things to start on a double click, without the need to use a file picker each time you want to run a stack would be great! Hoping... :) Rishi Viner. On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 01:09 pm, Ken Ray wrote: > > If you want to avoid all the secure mode stuff, you can use StackRunner > instead of DreamCard Player for Mac and Windows (sorry, I don't have a > Linux version ready yet). > > More info at: > > http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm > > HTH, > > Ken Ray -- Rishi Viner -- PUREDATA Australia www.puredata.com.au ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:32 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Ken Ray wrote: If you want to avoid all the secure mode stuff, you can use StackRunner instead of DreamCard Player for Mac and Windows (sorry, I don't have a Linux version ready yet). More info at: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/ StackRunner.htm I've been meaning to tell people (and you too, Ken, not that you aren't "people") -- I recently shipped a client project with StackRunner. I really like this little thing. Rev's Player doesn't include some crucial dialog boxes and libraries, but StackRunner has all of them. The project was for a private individual who didn't need a full app, we just needed an engine to run his HyperCard ported stack. It worked great. I recommend StackRunner for those times when you just want to ship stacks. It is zero hassle -- you just send out StackRunner and your stack in a single folder. Very easy. And -- let me say again, on behalf of the "'hobbyists'" among us -- a whole brave new world for users of Dreamcard. Charles Hartman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
Alex Tweedly wrote: > J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> Alex Tweedly wrote: >> >>> Jerry Muelver wrote: >>> My first Rev app, being developed on Linux with Rev 2.2.1, saves and reads a data file. On Windows XP, with Dreamcard Player running the stack, the program goes through the motions of saving when called to, but nothing gets saved. On Mac, with Player, the file gets saved, but can't be opened by the program -- "answer file" dialog shows the file grayed out, and not selectable. I use "ask file" to SaveAs originally, direct "open file" for in-progress saves, and "answer file" to open or re-open the file. >>> Doesn't seem likely, but ... >>> >>> In the Player, are you sure you are running in non-secure mode ? >>> >>> The Player, by default, is in secure mode, and cannot write to the >>> disk or access the network. The preferences are available by clicking >>> the RunRev logo at top right of the window. >>> >> >> It's very likely, actually. Player ships with secure mode turned on by >> default, for the protection of the user. I was about to suggest >> exactly what you said. >> > It seemed like a good explanation for the symptoms described on Windows > - but I couldn't figure out how on the Mac it could apparently create > the file (even though it couldn't then read it). In secure mode it > shouldn't be able to create the file at all. > > Hmmm - maybe when the app re-opens the file using "answer file" with a > default answer of a non-existent file, that allows it to show as grayed > out ? Time for me to spend more time on the Mac > I'm thinking the greyed out file is because the author is filtering on a file type and didn't get the Mac syntax quite right, or something similar. That's the most common reason why a file would be greyed out in the file dialog. That doesn't explain how it could save the file in the first place though. The only thing I can think of is that maybe the file was pre-existing by accident. Secure mode is supposed to block all file access, and I think it works correctly. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
The non-secure mode check did the trick. Now I can work on the "disappearing 'return'" when saving HTMLtext to a container and then to a file, and loading it back in again. Oh well... If programming were actually easy, everybody would be doing it! Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
Ken Ray wrote: If you want to avoid all the secure mode stuff, you can use StackRunner instead of DreamCard Player for Mac and Windows (sorry, I don't have a Linux version ready yet). More info at: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm I've been meaning to tell people (and you too, Ken, not that you aren't "people") -- I recently shipped a client project with StackRunner. I really like this little thing. Rev's Player doesn't include some crucial dialog boxes and libraries, but StackRunner has all of them. The project was for a private individual who didn't need a full app, we just needed an engine to run his HyperCard ported stack. It worked great. I recommend StackRunner for those times when you just want to ship stacks. It is zero hassle -- you just send out StackRunner and your stack in a single folder. Very easy. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
Thanks to all, for the suggestions and methods. The "Easter Egg" click on the logo is intriguing. I'll try each of them, and let you know what worked. Ken, StackRunner won't even run the stack on Win XP. It just goes away after I select the stack file. On Mac, is showed the same reluctance to access the file as Dreamcard Player. Looks like I may have to sell one of the kids, or maybe just the pets, to finance an upgrade. Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
J. Landman Gay wrote: Alex Tweedly wrote: Jerry Muelver wrote: My first Rev app, being developed on Linux with Rev 2.2.1, saves and reads a data file. On Windows XP, with Dreamcard Player running the stack, the program goes through the motions of saving when called to, but nothing gets saved. On Mac, with Player, the file gets saved, but can't be opened by the program -- "answer file" dialog shows the file grayed out, and not selectable. I use "ask file" to SaveAs originally, direct "open file" for in-progress saves, and "answer file" to open or re-open the file. Doesn't seem likely, but ... In the Player, are you sure you are running in non-secure mode ? The Player, by default, is in secure mode, and cannot write to the disk or access the network. The preferences are available by clicking the RunRev logo at top right of the window. It's very likely, actually. Player ships with secure mode turned on by default, for the protection of the user. I was about to suggest exactly what you said. It seemed like a good explanation for the symptoms described on Windows - but I couldn't figure out how on the Mac it could apparently create the file (even though it couldn't then read it). In secure mode it shouldn't be able to create the file at all. Hmmm - maybe when the app re-opens the file using "answer file" with a default answer of a non-existent file, that allows it to show as grayed out ? Time for me to spend more time on the Mac -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 02/12/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
On 12/5/05 7:38 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex Tweedly wrote: >> Jerry Muelver wrote: >> >>> My first Rev app, being developed on Linux with Rev 2.2.1, saves and >>> reads a data file. On Windows XP, with Dreamcard Player running the >>> stack, the program goes through the motions of saving when called to, >>> but nothing gets saved. On Mac, with Player, the file gets saved, but >>> can't be opened by the program -- "answer file" dialog shows the file >>> grayed out, and not selectable. I use "ask file" to SaveAs originally, >>> direct "open file" for in-progress saves, and "answer file" to open or >>> re-open the file. >>> >> Doesn't seem likely, but ... >> >> In the Player, are you sure you are running in non-secure mode ? >> >> The Player, by default, is in secure mode, and cannot write to the disk >> or access the network. The preferences are available by clicking the >> RunRev logo at top right of the window. >> > > It's very likely, actually. Player ships with secure mode turned on by > default, for the protection of the user. I was about to suggest exactly > what you said. If you want to avoid all the secure mode stuff, you can use StackRunner instead of DreamCard Player for Mac and Windows (sorry, I don't have a Linux version ready yet). More info at: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
Alex Tweedly wrote: Jerry Muelver wrote: My first Rev app, being developed on Linux with Rev 2.2.1, saves and reads a data file. On Windows XP, with Dreamcard Player running the stack, the program goes through the motions of saving when called to, but nothing gets saved. On Mac, with Player, the file gets saved, but can't be opened by the program -- "answer file" dialog shows the file grayed out, and not selectable. I use "ask file" to SaveAs originally, direct "open file" for in-progress saves, and "answer file" to open or re-open the file. Doesn't seem likely, but ... In the Player, are you sure you are running in non-secure mode ? The Player, by default, is in secure mode, and cannot write to the disk or access the network. The preferences are available by clicking the RunRev logo at top right of the window. It's very likely, actually. Player ships with secure mode turned on by default, for the protection of the user. I was about to suggest exactly what you said. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
Jerry Muelver wrote: My first Rev app, being developed on Linux with Rev 2.2.1, saves and reads a data file. On Windows XP, with Dreamcard Player running the stack, the program goes through the motions of saving when called to, but nothing gets saved. On Mac, with Player, the file gets saved, but can't be opened by the program -- "answer file" dialog shows the file grayed out, and not selectable. I use "ask file" to SaveAs originally, direct "open file" for in-progress saves, and "answer file" to open or re-open the file. Doesn't seem likely, but ... In the Player, are you sure you are running in non-secure mode ? The Player, by default, is in secure mode, and cannot write to the disk or access the network. The preferences are available by clicking the RunRev logo at top right of the window. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 02/12/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
On 12/6/05, Jerry Muelver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My first Rev app, being developed on Linux with Rev 2.2.1, saves and reads a > data file. On Windows XP, with Dreamcard Player running the stack, the > program goes through the motions of saving when called to, but nothing gets > saved. Check "the result" after saving. This might tell you why the save has failed. > On Mac, with Player, the file gets saved, but can't be opened by the > program -- "answer file" dialog shows the file grayed out, and not > selectable. I use "ask file" to SaveAs originally, direct "open file" for > in-progress saves, and "answer file" to open or re-open the file. It sounds like the filter on your answer file is not matching your data file type correctly. Try using answer file without any filters and see if that works. > I'll try using "*.txt" instead of my own extension, just in case. But in the > meantime, are there file access issues I have to tweak for each platform? > Are there filename extension or type conditions that come into play? The filter options for the answer file dialog were improved in Rev 2.6. The docs for this were in the Engine Change Log file that came with the 2.6 installation, but I haven't found them anywhere else, so I'll include the relevant section below. Cheers, Sarah answer/ask file with type ~ There is now a new form of answer and ask file allowing cross-platform specification of file filters: answer file[s] [ with ] with type \ [ or type or ... ] [ titled ] [ as ] ask file[s] [ with ] with type \ [ or type or ... ] [ titled ] [ as ] The parameters are return-delimited lists of the form: || Where: is a textual description of the filter is a comma-delimited list of extensions is a comma-delimited list of MacOS filetypes If more than one filter (in total) is specified, then the dialog box displayed will contain a drop-down list consisting of the filter name (this is always visible on Windows). When the user selects from this list, the corresponding filter will be applied to the file dialog. Upon selecting a file, the filename(s) will be placed in the it variable and the result variable will contain the of the last selected element from the drop-down list. Upon cancelling the action, both the it and the result variable will be empty. With the introduction of this new form, commands of the form: answer file ... of type ... answer file ... with filter ... ask file ... with filter ... Have been deprecated and should not be used in new applications. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
"Save" on Linux, not on Mac, Win
My first Rev app, being developed on Linux with Rev 2.2.1, saves and reads a data file. On Windows XP, with Dreamcard Player running the stack, the program goes through the motions of saving when called to, but nothing gets saved. On Mac, with Player, the file gets saved, but can't be opened by the program -- "answer file" dialog shows the file grayed out, and not selectable. I use "ask file" to SaveAs originally, direct "open file" for in-progress saves, and "answer file" to open or re-open the file. I'll try using "*.txt" instead of my own extension, just in case. But in the meantime, are there file access issues I have to tweak for each platform? Are there filename extension or type conditions that come into play? Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
