Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
You are right again. My bad. Thanks, Dar. On Feb 14, 2004, at 7:55 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 05:03 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Wouldn't it see and execute the put whatText into field "debug" before it even knew there was an unsupported revSpeak out there??? This is what you wrote earlier: On mouseUp Put field "TextToSpeak" into whatText RevSpeak whatText put whatText into field "Debug" end mouseUp The text of field "Debug" is set after the call to revSpeak. If there is no revSpeak, then the handler will exit right there. Execution will never get to the next line. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 05:03 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Wouldn't it see and execute the put whatText into field "debug" before it even knew there was an unsupported revSpeak out there??? This is what you wrote earlier: On mouseUp Put field "TextToSpeak" into whatText RevSpeak whatText put whatText into field "Debug" end mouseUp The text of field "Debug" is set after the call to revSpeak. If there is no revSpeak, then the handler will exit right there. Execution will never get to the next line. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 04:34 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Thanks so much for the tip. I didn't know I needed to manually move it. Or (rereading your message) is there some checkbox I need to select to get it to be placed there in the process of making the standalone? If you allow the Distribution Builder to place it, check "All Others" in the "Inclusions" tab. Though this is under the heading "Script libraries:", this is really an external. This is called a library other places and, though in a general sense it is, this can be confusing. The DB will place the revSpeech.bundle next to the .app file. It is not inside or in some special system folder. The DB will append the path to the external to the externals property of the main stack, so it should not mess up what you have. A path to an external is relative to defaultFolder at the time the folder is loaded, which in this case is the folder containing the .app. So if you move the external down inside the .app, then you need to include that path. I don't think having redundant paths will hurt. So, if you will be moving this, include that in the external paths before you build. It is a little scary not knowing what the DB will do to your stack, so to feel comfortable, you might want to add some debug into in some of your first apps. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
Dar,
That (checking all libraries) did the trick. Thanks!
And you were right about why my "clever" little debugging statement
didn't work--presumably because the mouseUp handler quit prematurely,
although you would think it would not see the RevSpeak command until
AFTER it had put the value of whatText into the second field.
Wouldn't it see and execute the put whatText into field "debug" before
it even knew there was an unsupported revSpeak out there???
I have SO much to learn!
M
On Feb 14, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 02:39 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
In the IDE: the text entered into the first field gets spoken and
appears properly in the second field ("debug")
In the standalone: No speech, no text placed into field "debug"
Your example has no 'try' structure. Perhaps your standalone does not
have an errorDialog handler. Under those conditions, maybe the error
of not finding revSpeak or its not executing completely for some
reason, simply causes your mouseUp handler to quit. Under these
conditions you might not get any indication of what is happening,
except that things stop at a particular point.
Dar Scott
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Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
You should not have to move anything manually. Unless you are moving your app + .bundle's to CD or another folder!!! IN the DB there is an option for "All other Libraries" and It must be selected for the standalone to work right. The same goes for the videograb library too. Tom On Feb 14, 2004, at 6:34 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Doug Thanks so much for the tip. I didn't know I needed to manually move it. Or (rereading your message) is there some checkbox I need to select to get it to be placed there in the process of making the standalone? In any event, that may well be PART of the problem but manually moving revspeech.bundle into the data file for the app didn't fix things. And, it wouldn't explain why whatText doesn't seem to get the text from the first field and then put it into the second so there appears to be an additional problem with data not making it either into whatText or out of whatText into both the second field and the RevSpeak command. Odd. M On Feb 14, 2004, at 6:19 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: It could be the same reason why my video grabber worked in the IDE and did not work at first in the standalone. The speech feature requires that a separate file called "revspeech.bundle" be in the data folder in the same location as the standalone. Make sure that is also generated when building the application. And when you move the application, make sure to take that data folder and bundle file with you. doug On 2/15/04 6:21 AM, "Marian Petrides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just put together a very simple demonstration of the RevSpeak command which consists of a card with 2 items on it: A field named "TextToSpeak" into which one enters text and a button containing the following simple script. On mouseUp Put field "TextToSpeak" into whatText RevSpeak whatText end mouseUp This works just fine (speaks the text entered into the field whenever button is pressed) in the IDE running in Mac OS X 10.3. However, when I make the stack into a standalone for OS X, pressing the button yields nothing but silence. Anybody have any thoughts on why this works in IDE but not in standalone??? Thanks Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
Doug Thanks so much for the tip. I didn't know I needed to manually move it. Or (rereading your message) is there some checkbox I need to select to get it to be placed there in the process of making the standalone? In any event, that may well be PART of the problem but manually moving revspeech.bundle into the data file for the app didn't fix things. And, it wouldn't explain why whatText doesn't seem to get the text from the first field and then put it into the second so there appears to be an additional problem with data not making it either into whatText or out of whatText into both the second field and the RevSpeak command. Odd. M On Feb 14, 2004, at 6:19 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: It could be the same reason why my video grabber worked in the IDE and did not work at first in the standalone. The speech feature requires that a separate file called "revspeech.bundle" be in the data folder in the same location as the standalone. Make sure that is also generated when building the application. And when you move the application, make sure to take that data folder and bundle file with you. doug On 2/15/04 6:21 AM, "Marian Petrides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just put together a very simple demonstration of the RevSpeak command which consists of a card with 2 items on it: A field named "TextToSpeak" into which one enters text and a button containing the following simple script. On mouseUp Put field "TextToSpeak" into whatText RevSpeak whatText end mouseUp This works just fine (speaks the text entered into the field whenever button is pressed) in the IDE running in Mac OS X 10.3. However, when I make the stack into a standalone for OS X, pressing the button yields nothing but silence. Anybody have any thoughts on why this works in IDE but not in standalone??? Thanks Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
It could be the same reason why my video grabber worked in the IDE and did not work at first in the standalone. The speech feature requires that a separate file called "revspeech.bundle" be in the data folder in the same location as the standalone. Make sure that is also generated when building the application. And when you move the application, make sure to take that data folder and bundle file with you. doug On 2/15/04 6:21 AM, "Marian Petrides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just put together a very simple demonstration of the RevSpeak command > which consists of a card with 2 items on it: > > A field named "TextToSpeak" into which one enters text and a button > containing the following simple script. > > On mouseUp > Put field "TextToSpeak" into whatText > RevSpeak whatText > end mouseUp > > This works just fine (speaks the text entered into the field whenever > button is pressed) in the IDE running in Mac OS X 10.3. However, when > I make the stack into a standalone for OS X, pressing the button yields > nothing but silence. > > Anybody have any thoughts on why this works in IDE but not in > standalone??? > > Thanks > > Marian > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 02:39 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
In the IDE: the text entered into the first field gets spoken and
appears properly in the second field ("debug")
In the standalone: No speech, no text placed into field "debug"
Your example has no 'try' structure. Perhaps your standalone does not
have an errorDialog handler. Under those conditions, maybe the error
of not finding revSpeak or its not executing completely for some
reason, simply causes your mouseUp handler to quit. Under these
conditions you might not get any indication of what is happening,
except that things stop at a particular point.
Dar Scott
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Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
On Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 02:39 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: What gives? Evidently there is some difference between the IDE and the standalone that prevents the contents of the first field from being properly captured and presented to the speech routine but also prevents it from being passed to the second field. But I can't figure out why?? From the documentation for revSpeak: Important! The revSpeak command is part of the Speech library. To ensure that the command works in a standalone application, you must include this custom library when you create your standalone. In Step 3 of the Distribution Builder window, make sure the “All Other Libraries” option on the Inclusions tab is checked. Could this apply? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
Addendum to previous
If I add a second field to accept text from the following command
(placed in the button's mouseUp handler in addition to the revSpeak
command): put whatText into field "debug"
Entire button script follows:
On mouseUp
Put field "TextToSpeak" into whatText
RevSpeak whatText
put whatText into field "Debug"
end mouseUp
In the IDE: the text entered into the first field gets spoken and
appears properly in the second field ("debug")
In the standalone: No speech, no text placed into field "debug"
What gives? Evidently there is some difference between the IDE and the
standalone that prevents the contents of the first field from being
properly captured and presented to the speech routine but also prevents
it from being passed to the second field. But I can't figure out
why??
Marian
On Feb 14, 2004, at 4:21 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
I just put together a very simple demonstration of the RevSpeak
command which consists of a card with 2 items on it:
A field named "TextToSpeak" into which one enters text and a button
containing the following simple script.
On mouseUp
Put field "TextToSpeak" into whatText
RevSpeak whatText
end mouseUp
This works just fine (speaks the text entered into the field whenever
button is pressed) in the IDE running in Mac OS X 10.3. However, when
I make the stack into a standalone for OS X, pressing the button
yields nothing but silence.
Anybody have any thoughts on why this works in IDE but not in
standalone???
Thanks
Marian
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Text to speech nonfunctional in standalone
I just put together a very simple demonstration of the RevSpeak command which consists of a card with 2 items on it: A field named "TextToSpeak" into which one enters text and a button containing the following simple script. On mouseUp Put field "TextToSpeak" into whatText RevSpeak whatText end mouseUp This works just fine (speaks the text entered into the field whenever button is pressed) in the IDE running in Mac OS X 10.3. However, when I make the stack into a standalone for OS X, pressing the button yields nothing but silence. Anybody have any thoughts on why this works in IDE but not in standalone??? Thanks Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
