Re: This is what it actually says
I broke out in a cold sweat when I saw this: Its a common reaction among C neophytes, its because you had failed to declare your variables. If it happens again, splash some cold water on your face, sit down, declare your variables, and you'll feel a whole lot better! -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/revMobile-tp1788792p1835248.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 10/04/2010 11:52, Peter Alcibiades wrote: I broke out in a cold sweat when I saw this: Its a common reaction among C neophytes, its because you had failed to declare your variables. If it happens again, splash some cold water on your face, sit down, declare your variables, and you'll feel a whole lot better! sit down and eat your vegetables . . . Mmm . . . takes me back to a summer visit with my Granny in Dundee . . . who . . . believed that it was good to boil vegetables until they had no taste and no nutritional value left: end result - have just eaten a raw carrot and a raw turnip (washed down with black coffee) for my breakfast: try it; sets one up for the day! Certainly, having risen from my lumpy bed in a lumpy mood, a little bit of crudité makes me feel a whole lot better. And, for all I know. RunRev may look a bit raw to the self-appointed gods of computer programming. I, for one, don't have any great pretensions to divinity in that area (nor any other, come to think of it, ha, ha). Personally I would rather risk breaking a tooth on the crunchy exterior of RunRev that do a back to the future with Objective-C, which reminds me of PASCAL 5 in a funny sort of way . . . in fact in such a funny sort of way that I would rather leave it, along with the memory of Granny's biled greens in the reasonably long-forgotten past. Although, to be fair, Granny also kept me well-supplied with mixed-boilings and the Beano. Programming-qua-programming I can see no obvious advantages in using Objective-C over RunRev; if, however, it can do the things on Linux that RunRev can do on Mac and Windows but cannot on Linux I may well have to control my gag reflex (wow, traumatised by PASCAL) and chomp on down. I really do feel (as I'm sure quite a few other folk must too) that I have invested a serious amount of time and effort getting up to some sort of speed with RunRev; and, as you, Peter, pointed out; age gets in the way; and I really don't have the time, the money, or the Mojo (???) to do 'that' all over again with Objective-C. Frankly, I would much prefer (but Ah jalouse naebody's clappin their gully lugs til ma scrievins) if RunRev for Linux could be 'sorted out' - and by that I mean brought exactly up to par with the Win and Mac versions (I wonder how many times I am going to scrieve that before . . . ). Now: if somebody could help me with some sort of a Wildcard method for Unicode I would be a considerably happier person! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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I love the Richmond's moods (or rant) ! ;-) But for a no-english person (like me) it is very difficult to understand (ans really appreciate !) ;-) + ;-) René Le 10 avr. 2010 à 11:12, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : On 10/04/2010 11:52, Peter Alcibiades wrote: I broke out in a cold sweat when I saw this: Its a common reaction among C neophytes, its because you had failed to declare your variables. If it happens again, splash some cold water on your face, sit down, declare your variables, and you'll feel a whole lot better! sit down and eat your vegetables . . . Mmm . . . takes me back to a summer visit with my Granny in Dundee . . . who . . . believed that it was good to boil vegetables until they had no taste and no nutritional value left: end result - have just eaten a raw carrot and a raw turnip (washed down with black coffee) for my breakfast: try it; sets one up for the day! Certainly, having risen from my lumpy bed in a lumpy mood, a little bit of crudité makes me feel a whole lot better. And, for all I know. RunRev may look a bit raw to the self-appointed gods of computer programming. I, for one, don't have any great pretensions to divinity in that area (nor any other, come to think of it, ha, ha). Personally I would rather risk breaking a tooth on the crunchy exterior of RunRev that do a back to the future with Objective-C, which reminds me of PASCAL 5 in a funny sort of way . . . in fact in such a funny sort of way that I would rather leave it, along with the memory of Granny's biled greens in the reasonably long-forgotten past. Although, to be fair, Granny also kept me well-supplied with mixed-boilings and the Beano. Programming-qua-programming I can see no obvious advantages in using Objective-C over RunRev; if, however, it can do the things on Linux that RunRev can do on Mac and Windows but cannot on Linux I may well have to control my gag reflex (wow, traumatised by PASCAL) and chomp on down. I really do feel (as I'm sure quite a few other folk must too) that I have invested a serious amount of time and effort getting up to some sort of speed with RunRev; and, as you, Peter, pointed out; age gets in the way; and I really don't have the time, the money, or the Mojo (???) to do 'that' all over again with Objective-C. Frankly, I would much prefer (but Ah jalouse naebody's clappin their gully lugs til ma scrievins) if RunRev for Linux could be 'sorted out' - and by that I mean brought exactly up to par with the Win and Mac versions (I wonder how many times I am going to scrieve that before . . . ). Now: if somebody could help me with some sort of a Wildcard method for Unicode I would be a considerably happier person! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 10/04/2010 12:50, René Micout wrote: I love the Richmond's moods (or rant) ! ;-) But for a no-english person (like me) it is very difficult to understand (ans really appreciate !) ;-) + ;-) René You probably don't understand everything I have written exactly because I am NOT completely English either . . . :) From time to time, for strictly 'stylistic' reasons, I drop into Scots; a language misunderstood by the English, even described as an uncouth dialect of English; which is funny since our Kings spoke it. I have the benefits of an English Private School education, and an English University education, coupled with many summers' farm work in parts of Scotland where Doric Scots still survives. This allows me to code switch between 'High English' and Scots all the way up and down what linguists call a dialect continuum. C'est trop facile pour moi . . . :) Francophones might like to think Gascon and Occitan before assuming that because I carry a British passport that automatically means that I am either wholly or partly English. A quick 'owersettan' follows: but Ah jalouse naebody's clappin their gully lugs til ma scrievins But, I suppose nobody is listening with their big ears to my messages. Francophones might like to meditate on the origins of the word 'jalouse', and Latin scholars might like to meditate on the origins of the word 'scrieve'; Anglo-Saxon scholars will have to put up with 'lugs'. Spoken languages are rather like RevTalk (err . . . is that the current name?); one can ring the changes and achieve wonderful effects: because RevTalk (unlike an awful lot of computer languages) is quite flexible and extensible, rather like human languages. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Richmond, Merci pour ces périgrinations culturo-linguistiques ! Bon souvenir de Paris René Le 10 avr. 2010 à 12:25, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : On 10/04/2010 12:50, René Micout wrote: I love the Richmond's moods (or rant) ! ;-) But for a no-english person (like me) it is very difficult to understand (ans really appreciate !) ;-) + ;-) René You probably don't understand everything I have written exactly because I am NOT completely English either . . . :) From time to time, for strictly 'stylistic' reasons, I drop into Scots; a language misunderstood by the English, even described as an uncouth dialect of English; which is funny since our Kings spoke it. I have the benefits of an English Private School education, and an English University education, coupled with many summers' farm work in parts of Scotland where Doric Scots still survives. This allows me to code switch between 'High English' and Scots all the way up and down what linguists call a dialect continuum. C'est trop facile pour moi . . . :) Francophones might like to think Gascon and Occitan before assuming that because I carry a British passport that automatically means that I am either wholly or partly English. A quick 'owersettan' follows: but Ah jalouse naebody's clappin their gully lugs til ma scrievins But, I suppose nobody is listening with their big ears to my messages. Francophones might like to meditate on the origins of the word 'jalouse', and Latin scholars might like to meditate on the origins of the word 'scrieve'; Anglo-Saxon scholars will have to put up with 'lugs'. Spoken languages are rather like RevTalk (err . . . is that the current name?); one can ring the changes and achieve wonderful effects: because RevTalk (unlike an awful lot of computer languages) is quite flexible and extensible, rather like human languages. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Richmond- Saturday, April 10, 2010, 3:25:56 AM, you wrote: Thanks for the transliterature. and Latin scholars might like to meditate on the origins of the word 'scrieve'; When I was at Apple we could put whatever title we wanted on our business cards. A friend of mine was a technical writer, so his title became Digital Scribe. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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When I was at Apple we could put whatever title we wanted on our business cards. A friend of mine was a technical writer, so his title became Digital Scribe. I used to know a lady at Apple who had a critical misunderstanding and ended up with both a title and email address listed as Smirky :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC - Because it is about who you know.(tm) http://www.proactive-intl.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Richard, C++ is a great language, I'm sure everyone will love it once they get to know it. No, not really: I broke out in a cold sweat when I saw this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C I couldn't agree more, except that there was also a tendancy to vomit ! Nothing should ever be done for the first time and C++ was only one of them .. Gimme Lovely, Beautiful, Delicious, Sexy, RUNREV every day of the week ! Best Regards -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
This is what it actually says
Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and directly link against the Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that link to Documented APIs through an intermediary translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited), C++ is a great language, I'm sure everyone will love it once they get to know it. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/revMobile-tp1788792p1818174.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and directly link against the Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that link to Documented APIs through an intermediary translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited), C++ is a great language, I'm sure everyone will love it once they get to know it. LOL! However Objective-C is not C++ and is about as nice as C can get. Apple's IDE is very nice and the Interface Builder is great. So if you have to switch to developing for iPhone/iPad in Obj-C, don't despair. But I am optimistic. I think RunRev will not have got this far with revMobile without some serious discussions with Apple. If the revMobile engine is written in one of the approved languages, then maybe our stacks will be considered as data files, like plists or databases. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This is what it actually says
On 09/04/2010 10:47, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and directly link against the Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that link to Documented APIs through an intermediary translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited), C++ is a great language, I'm sure everyone will love it once they get to know it. Really? As soon as somebody tells me something like I'm sure everyone will love it once they get to know it I feel queasy . . . :) Also: how long does it take to get to know it ? after something of the order of 9 years (on the back of Hypercard and Toolbook experience) getting to know RunRev (and, frankly, it sometimes still seems that I am at the 'courting' stage), I don't really feel like starting a new romance. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: This is what it actually says
On 09/04/2010 10:47, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written in C, C++, and Objective-C may compile and directly link against the Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that link to Documented APIs through an intermediary translation or compatibility layer or tool are prohibited), C++ is a great language, I'm sure everyone will love it once they get to know it. No, not really: I broke out in a cold sweat when I saw this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C I like RunRev, and looking at pages like that let my know why. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
