Re: Umlaut--Success!
Signe, On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning Devin I have still got no success (on Mac10.4.8 and Rev 2.6) The fld "result" is set to "verdana,unicode", but only n appears. Could it be that I need Rev 2.8? Indeed it does not work with Rev v. < 2.7. There were some enhancements to unicode for 2.7 that seem to be necessary to make this work. However, I have not tried your suggested settings with "Enable the Unicode Hex Input method in the International system prefs under the input tab. This will cause the Unicode Hex Input method to appear in the input menu (the one with the little flags on the right side of the menubar.) First because my system is in Norwegian and I did not find the input menu, and secondly because my potential users cannot be bothered by doing this. (Or am I completely wrong? Is this setting in Revolution somewhere?) No, it's a Mac OS X setting. Open System Preferences, click on International, then Input Menu. As soon as you enable at least one of the items under Input Menu the input (flag menu, right next to the time on the right end of the menu bar) will become visible. Do your users need to be able to type the n-with-umlaut into a field? If so, you could provide a button that inserted one, using the method I've described. If you decide to go that route I'd be happy to make a sample stack for you that does this. Regards, Devin Quoting Devin Asay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Mar 1, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Devin, This doesn't work for me (Mac OS X 10.4.8, Rev 2.7.8). The # is replaced by n instead of n-umlaut. Right, after I sent this message, I discovered that the first # in the field does not get replaced by the n-umlaut, only an n. It works for every other # after the first one. (Go figure!) Here's a workaround that worked for me: on mouseUp get "#"&fld "poundfld" put numToChar(110) & numToChar(204) & numToChar(136) into tChars replace "#" with tChars in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") delete char 1 to 2 of fld "result" end mouseUp Does this work for you? Thanks for keeping me honest! Devin Signe, You can still do it without one of these methods. Let's take your case as an example. Say you have a field "poundfield" that contains your text with # for each n-umlaut. Now create another field, say field "result", and set its textFont to a unicode font as in #1 of my first post, below. Now create a button with the following script: on mouseUp get fld "poundfld" replace "#" with "nÃà" in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") end mouseUp Barring any automatic Mac to PC character substitutions (by Rev or by your mail client,) this should result in the #'s in your poundfield being replaced by the character you want. If it doesn't work as posted here, the three characters in the 'with' part of the replace statement are ASCII-110 ASCII-204 ASCII-136. So you could generate them reliably by doing this: on mouseUp get fld "poundfld" put numToChar(110) & numToChar(204) & numToChar(136) into tChars replace "#" with tChars in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") end mouseUp Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
Good morning Devin I have still got no success (on Mac10.4.8 and Rev 2.6) The fld "result" is set to "verdana,unicode", but only n appears. Could it be that I need Rev 2.8? However, I have not tried your suggested settings with "Enable the Unicode Hex Input method in the International system prefs under the input tab. This will cause the Unicode Hex Input method to appear in the input menu (the one with the little flags on the right side of the menubar.) First because my system is in Norwegian and I did not find the input menu, and secondly because my potential users cannot be bothered by doing this. (Or am I completely wrong? Is this setting in Revolution somewhere?) Signe Marie Quoting Devin Asay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Mar 1, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > > > Hi Devin, > > > > This doesn't work for me (Mac OS X 10.4.8, Rev 2.7.8). > > > > The # is replaced by n instead of n-umlaut. > > Right, after I sent this message, I discovered that the first # in > the field does not get replaced by the n-umlaut, only an n. It works > for every other # after the first one. (Go figure!) Here's a > workaround that worked for me: > > on mouseUp >get "#"&fld "poundfld" >put numToChar(110) & numToChar(204) & numToChar(136) into tChars >replace "#" with tChars in it >set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") >delete char 1 to 2 of fld "result" > end mouseUp > > Does this work for you? > > Thanks for keeping me honest! > > Devin > > > > >> Signe, > >> > >> You can still do it without one of these methods. Let's take your > >> case as an example. Say you have a field "poundfield" that > >> contains your text with # for each n-umlaut. Now create another > >> field, say field "result", and set its textFont to a unicode font > >> as in #1 of my first post, below. Now create a button with the > >> following script: > >> > >> on mouseUp > >> get fld "poundfld" > >> replace "#" with "nÃà" in it > >> set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") > >> end mouseUp > >> > >> Barring any automatic Mac to PC character substitutions (by Rev or > >> by your mail client,) this should result in the #'s in your > >> poundfield being replaced by the character you want. If it doesn't > >> work as posted here, the three characters in the 'with' part of > >> the replace statement are ASCII-110 ASCII-204 ASCII-136. So you > >> could generate them reliably by doing this: > >> > >> on mouseUp > >> get fld "poundfld" > >> put numToChar(110) & numToChar(204) & numToChar(136) into tChars > >> replace "#" with tChars in it > >> set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") > >> end mouseUp > >> > >> Hope this saves you from a kludge. ;-) > >> > >> Devin > >> > >> On Mar 1, 2007, at 1:38 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: > > Devin Asay > Humanities Technology and Research Support Center > Brigham Young University > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
On Mar 1, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Devin, This doesn't work for me (Mac OS X 10.4.8, Rev 2.7.8). The # is replaced by n instead of n-umlaut. Right, after I sent this message, I discovered that the first # in the field does not get replaced by the n-umlaut, only an n. It works for every other # after the first one. (Go figure!) Here's a workaround that worked for me: on mouseUp get "#"&fld "poundfld" put numToChar(110) & numToChar(204) & numToChar(136) into tChars replace "#" with tChars in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") delete char 1 to 2 of fld "result" end mouseUp Does this work for you? Thanks for keeping me honest! Devin Signe, You can still do it without one of these methods. Let's take your case as an example. Say you have a field "poundfield" that contains your text with # for each n-umlaut. Now create another field, say field "result", and set its textFont to a unicode font as in #1 of my first post, below. Now create a button with the following script: on mouseUp get fld "poundfld" replace "#" with "nÃà" in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") end mouseUp Barring any automatic Mac to PC character substitutions (by Rev or by your mail client,) this should result in the #'s in your poundfield being replaced by the character you want. If it doesn't work as posted here, the three characters in the 'with' part of the replace statement are ASCII-110 ASCII-204 ASCII-136. So you could generate them reliably by doing this: on mouseUp get fld "poundfld" put numToChar(110) & numToChar(204) & numToChar(136) into tChars replace "#" with tChars in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") end mouseUp Hope this saves you from a kludge. ;-) Devin On Mar 1, 2007, at 1:38 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
Hello Devin, Nor did it work on Mac 10.4 and Revolution 2.6. I've spent half a day making images with n+umlaut for textsize 14 and 16 in ordinary colour and in my selection colour. Thanks all the same. Signe Marie > Signe, > > You can still do it without one of these methods. Let's take your > case as an example. Say you have a field "poundfield" that contains > your text with # for each n-umlaut. Now create another field, say > field "result", and set its textFont to a unicode font as in #1 of my > first post, below. Now create a button with the following script: > > on mouseUp >get fld "poundfld" >replace "#" with "nÃà" in it >set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") > end mouseUp > > Barring any automatic Mac to PC character substitutions (by Rev or by > your mail client,) this should result in the #'s in your poundfield > being replaced by the character you want. If it doesn't work as > posted here, the three characters in the 'with' part of the replace > statement are ASCII-110 ASCII-204 ASCII-136. So you could generate > them reliably by doing this: > > on mouseUp >get fld "poundfld" >put numToChar(110) & numToChar(204) & numToChar(136) into tChars >replace "#" with tChars in it >set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") > end mouseUp > > Hope this saves you from a kludge. ;-) > > Devin > > On Mar 1, 2007, at 1:38 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: > > > Hello Devin, > > > > I'm afraid none of the methods can be used. I have lots of texts in > > which I use "#" for the n with umlaut. These will be fed into > > fields on the fly appearing with the correct letter instead of the > > "#". So far I have used images for various text sizes which work > > reasonably well. My problem arose when I wanted to select a line in > > the text, then having to change the colour of the image as well. So > > I think I'll stick to the images, just double the sets of images > > with selection colours as well. Thanks for all the help from you > > and Mark. > > > > Signe Marie Sanne > > > > Den 28. feb. 2007 kl. 18:57 skrev Devin Asay: > >> You *can* do this in Rev. Here's how I did it in OS X (I'm using > >> rev 2.8 in OSX 10.4.8): > >> > >> 1. Create a field and set its textfont to a unicode font: > >> set the textFont of fld "unistuff" to "Verdana,unicode" > >> > >> 2. Enable the Unicode Hex Input method in the International system > >> prefs under the input tab. This will cause the Unicode Hex Input > >> method to appear in the input menu (the one with the little flags > >> on the right side of the menubar.) > >> > >> 3. Position the insert cursor in the field, choose Unicode Hex > >> Input from the input menu, then type : > >> n (then, holding alt/option key down) 0308 > >> > >> the n with umlaut should appear. > >> > >> Sorry, don't know how to do this via direct input in Windows. > >> However, the following should work on either OS: > >> > >> 1. Create a UTF-8 encoded text file that includes the desired > >> character. I used BBedit, making sure I chose a font that > >> supported unicode (Tahoma or Lucida Grande should work) and that > >> the document encoding was set to UTF-8, then created the n-umlaut > >> character just as I described in #3 above. > >> > >> 2. Save the file to disk. > >> > >> 3. Read it in to your rev fld using the uniencode() function. > >> > >> I've created a stack that shows how to do this. > >> > >> go stack url "http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/testUnicode.rev"; > >> > >> You may also want to download the utf-8 file from http:// > >> revolution.byu.edu/unicode/textUni.ut8. This is the file that the > >> sample stack reads from. > > > Devin Asay > Humanities Technology and Research Support Center > Brigham Young University > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
Hi Devin, This doesn't work for me (Mac OS X 10.4.8, Rev 2.7.8). The # is replaced by n instead of n-umlaut. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 1-mrt-2007, om 16:38 heeft Devin Asay het volgende geschreven: Signe, You can still do it without one of these methods. Let's take your case as an example. Say you have a field "poundfield" that contains your text with # for each n-umlaut. Now create another field, say field "result", and set its textFont to a unicode font as in #1 of my first post, below. Now create a button with the following script: on mouseUp get fld "poundfld" replace "#" with "nÃà" in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") end mouseUp Barring any automatic Mac to PC character substitutions (by Rev or by your mail client,) this should result in the #'s in your poundfield being replaced by the character you want. If it doesn't work as posted here, the three characters in the 'with' part of the replace statement are ASCII-110 ASCII-204 ASCII-136. So you could generate them reliably by doing this: on mouseUp get fld "poundfld" put numToChar(110) & numToChar(204) & numToChar(136) into tChars replace "#" with tChars in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") end mouseUp Hope this saves you from a kludge. ;-) Devin On Mar 1, 2007, at 1:38 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
Signe, You can still do it without one of these methods. Let's take your case as an example. Say you have a field "poundfield" that contains your text with # for each n-umlaut. Now create another field, say field "result", and set its textFont to a unicode font as in #1 of my first post, below. Now create a button with the following script: on mouseUp get fld "poundfld" replace "#" with "nÃà" in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") end mouseUp Barring any automatic Mac to PC character substitutions (by Rev or by your mail client,) this should result in the #'s in your poundfield being replaced by the character you want. If it doesn't work as posted here, the three characters in the 'with' part of the replace statement are ASCII-110 ASCII-204 ASCII-136. So you could generate them reliably by doing this: on mouseUp get fld "poundfld" put numToChar(110) & numToChar(204) & numToChar(136) into tChars replace "#" with tChars in it set the unicodeText of fld "result" to uniencode(it,"UTF8") end mouseUp Hope this saves you from a kludge. ;-) Devin On Mar 1, 2007, at 1:38 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: Hello Devin, I'm afraid none of the methods can be used. I have lots of texts in which I use "#" for the n with umlaut. These will be fed into fields on the fly appearing with the correct letter instead of the "#". So far I have used images for various text sizes which work reasonably well. My problem arose when I wanted to select a line in the text, then having to change the colour of the image as well. So I think I'll stick to the images, just double the sets of images with selection colours as well. Thanks for all the help from you and Mark. Signe Marie Sanne Den 28. feb. 2007 kl. 18:57 skrev Devin Asay: You *can* do this in Rev. Here's how I did it in OS X (I'm using rev 2.8 in OSX 10.4.8): 1. Create a field and set its textfont to a unicode font: set the textFont of fld "unistuff" to "Verdana,unicode" 2. Enable the Unicode Hex Input method in the International system prefs under the input tab. This will cause the Unicode Hex Input method to appear in the input menu (the one with the little flags on the right side of the menubar.) 3. Position the insert cursor in the field, choose Unicode Hex Input from the input menu, then type : n (then, holding alt/option key down) 0308 the n with umlaut should appear. Sorry, don't know how to do this via direct input in Windows. However, the following should work on either OS: 1. Create a UTF-8 encoded text file that includes the desired character. I used BBedit, making sure I chose a font that supported unicode (Tahoma or Lucida Grande should work) and that the document encoding was set to UTF-8, then created the n-umlaut character just as I described in #3 above. 2. Save the file to disk. 3. Read it in to your rev fld using the uniencode() function. I've created a stack that shows how to do this. go stack url "http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/testUnicode.rev"; You may also want to download the utf-8 file from http:// revolution.byu.edu/unicode/textUni.ut8. This is the file that the sample stack reads from. Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
Hello Devin, I'm afraid none of the methods can be used. I have lots of texts in which I use "#" for the n with umlaut. These will be fed into fields on the fly appearing with the correct letter instead of the "#". So far I have used images for various text sizes which work reasonably well. My problem arose when I wanted to select a line in the text, then having to change the colour of the image as well. So I think I'll stick to the images, just double the sets of images with selection colours as well. Thanks for all the help from you and Mark. Signe Marie Sanne Den 28. feb. 2007 kl. 18:57 skrev Devin Asay: You *can* do this in Rev. Here's how I did it in OS X (I'm using rev 2.8 in OSX 10.4.8): 1. Create a field and set its textfont to a unicode font: set the textFont of fld "unistuff" to "Verdana,unicode" 2. Enable the Unicode Hex Input method in the International system prefs under the input tab. This will cause the Unicode Hex Input method to appear in the input menu (the one with the little flags on the right side of the menubar.) 3. Position the insert cursor in the field, choose Unicode Hex Input from the input menu, then type : n (then, holding alt/option key down) 0308 the n with umlaut should appear. Sorry, don't know how to do this via direct input in Windows. However, the following should work on either OS: 1. Create a UTF-8 encoded text file that includes the desired character. I used BBedit, making sure I chose a font that supported unicode (Tahoma or Lucida Grande should work) and that the document encoding was set to UTF-8, then created the n-umlaut character just as I described in #3 above. 2. Save the file to disk. 3. Read it in to your rev fld using the uniencode() function. I've created a stack that shows how to do this. go stack url "http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/testUnicode.rev"; You may also want to download the utf-8 file from http:// revolution.byu.edu/unicode/textUni.ut8. This is the file that the sample stack reads from. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
Thanks Devin, I took the data from your file and did a few tests. Eventually, it turned out that the following works: on mouseUp put "efff 00e6 3080" into myChars replace space with empty in myChars put binaryEncode("h*",myChars) into myBin set the unicodetext of fld 1 to myBin --set the textFont of char 1 to -1 of fld 1 to "Lucida Grande,unicode" end mouseUp You need a stack with one field and one button to run this script. Set the script of the button to the above. My observations: - this doesn't work without the signature efff - setting the font of the characters afterwards is not possible - it works with both Verdana and Lucida Grande, but you really have to set the textFont of the field in advance Additional remarks: - above script needs adjustment for Intel machines (both Mac and PC) - my earlier statement saying that it was not possible is wrong. Best regards, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 28-feb-2007, om 21:53 heeft Devin Asay het volgende geschreven: On Feb 28, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Devin, This is great news. I would like to do a few tests, but can't download your utf file. Is the address correct? I've created a stack that shows how to do this. go stack url "http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/testUnicode.rev"; You may also want to download the utf-8 file from http:// revolution.byu.edu/unicode/textUni.ut8. This is the file that the sample stack reads from. Sorry, the url for the text file should be http:// revolution.byu.edu/unicode/testUni.ut8 (testUni, not textUni). Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
On Feb 28, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Devin, This is great news. I would like to do a few tests, but can't download your utf file. Is the address correct? I've created a stack that shows how to do this. go stack url "http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/testUnicode.rev"; You may also want to download the utf-8 file from http:// revolution.byu.edu/unicode/textUni.ut8. This is the file that the sample stack reads from. Sorry, the url for the text file should be http://revolution.byu.edu/ unicode/testUni.ut8 (testUni, not textUni). Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
Hi Devin, This is great news. I would like to do a few tests, but can't download your utf file. Is the address correct? Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 28-feb-2007, om 18:57 heeft Devin Asay het volgende geschreven: You *can* do this in Rev. Here's how I did it in OS X (I'm using rev 2.8 in OSX 10.4.8): 1. Create a field and set its textfont to a unicode font: set the textFont of fld "unistuff" to "Verdana,unicode" 2. Enable the Unicode Hex Input method in the International system prefs under the input tab. This will cause the Unicode Hex Input method to appear in the input menu (the one with the little flags on the right side of the menubar.) 3. Position the insert cursor in the field, choose Unicode Hex Input from the input menu, then type : n (then, holding alt/option key down) 0308 the n with umlaut should appear. Sorry, don't know how to do this via direct input in Windows. However, the following should work on either OS: 1. Create a UTF-8 encoded text file that includes the desired character. I used BBedit, making sure I chose a font that supported unicode (Tahoma or Lucida Grande should work) and that the document encoding was set to UTF-8, then created the n-umlaut character just as I described in #3 above. 2. Save the file to disk. 3. Read it in to your rev fld using the uniencode() function. I've created a stack that shows how to do this. go stack url "http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/testUnicode.rev"; You may also want to download the utf-8 file from http:// revolution.byu.edu/unicode/textUni.ut8. This is the file that the sample stack reads from. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Umlaut--Success!
On Feb 28, 2007, at 3:03 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: Hello Perhaps someone of you may find a better solution to a small problem. I need to have the letter n with umlaut (tréma) in a text fld set to an ordinary textfont (verdana). So far I have used the imagesource, but I would like to know if there is a font (among those always present on both Mac and Windows) which will accomplish the same. You *can* do this in Rev. Here's how I did it in OS X (I'm using rev 2.8 in OSX 10.4.8): 1. Create a field and set its textfont to a unicode font: set the textFont of fld "unistuff" to "Verdana,unicode" 2. Enable the Unicode Hex Input method in the International system prefs under the input tab. This will cause the Unicode Hex Input method to appear in the input menu (the one with the little flags on the right side of the menubar.) 3. Position the insert cursor in the field, choose Unicode Hex Input from the input menu, then type : n (then, holding alt/option key down) 0308 the n with umlaut should appear. Sorry, don't know how to do this via direct input in Windows. However, the following should work on either OS: 1. Create a UTF-8 encoded text file that includes the desired character. I used BBedit, making sure I chose a font that supported unicode (Tahoma or Lucida Grande should work) and that the document encoding was set to UTF-8, then created the n-umlaut character just as I described in #3 above. 2. Save the file to disk. 3. Read it in to your rev fld using the uniencode() function. I've created a stack that shows how to do this. go stack url "http://revolution.byu.edu/unicode/testUnicode.rev"; You may also want to download the utf-8 file from http:// revolution.byu.edu/unicode/textUni.ut8. This is the file that the sample stack reads from. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution