Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
On Oct 1, 2006, at 2:04 AM, Klaus Major wrote: And with the new version (already uploaded this one, Trevor?) there is no need for exporting a thumbnail to an external file, just put it into a variable and do whatever you want with the data. I don't know that the version that grabs thumbnails from files on disk and stores the data in a variable is uploaded yet. One of these days... -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Sivakatirswami wrote: Oh.. yes, fun with QuickTime and players... I'm deep into this myself, with remote URL's, streaming media -- Windows boulders and sand traps... Try this -- assumes your screen shot could be one or two frames in -- and -- you are not in a big rush untested hack, that avoids trying to resolve the nagging "it should work, but doesn't" from the school of "WHEW" (WHatEverWorks) set filename of player "newPlayer" start player "newPlayer" stop player "newPlayer" # in the player itself. on playStopped # take your screen shot now # my goodness, it *must* be rendered in the # VRAM at this point, bien sur! (Mauritian Creole "for sure!) end playStopped This is even better, and works fine. I didn't have to use the playstopped message, all I have to do is: start player "temp" stop player "temp" This removes the jerkiness that a wait command causes, always displays the movie image, makes a very smooth snapshot visually, and works great. WHEW indeed. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Oh.. yes, fun with QuickTime and players... I'm deep into this myself, with remote URL's, streaming media -- Windows boulders and sand traps... Try this -- assumes your screen shot could be one or two frames in -- and -- you are not in a big rush untested hack, that avoids trying to resolve the nagging "it should work, but doesn't" from the school of "WHEW" (WHatEverWorks) set filename of player "newPlayer" start player "newPlayer" stop player "newPlayer" # in the player itself. on playStopped # take your screen shot now # my goodness, it *must* be rendered in the # VRAM at this point, bien sur! (Mauritian Creole "for sure!) end playStopped aum skts -- all ears on anything Re-QT players J. Landman Gay wrote: I am trying to load a series of movies into players in a loop, in order to make thumbnails. Inside a repeat loop, I set each player's filename, then take a snapshot of it to get a thumbnail image. This works just fine when I step through it in the debugger. However, if I let the loop run at its natural speed, I get a bunch of blank snapshots, either because the content isn't fully loaded before the script continues, or because the screen isn't refreshing (I can't tell which.) I need a way to force the loop to wait until the player is fully loaded, and also something that will refresh the screen so that a snapshot has something to take a picture of. I have tried locking and unlocking the screen to force a redraw, tried "go this card" to force a redraw, tried waiting various amounts of time both with and without messages, tried "set the currentTime of player 1 to the duration of player 1" to force a full load, and everything else I can think of. In no case does the player content display. I am not sure if this is because the screen simply isn't redrawing (likely), or because the content isn't fully loading before the script continues (possible.) Anyone know how to solve this? -- Om shanti (In Peace) Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com Get Hinduism Today Digital Edition. It's Free! http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
At 1:04 PM -0500 10/1/06, J. Landman Gay wrote: Eric Chatonet wrote: Obviously you tried all methods but without starting the player: PlayLoudness > zero repeat > load;start;[wait x ms];stop;set currentTime to zero;snapshot... Not tested ;-) You're a genuis, it works! That genius, Eric Chatonet, will be presenting the following at the EuroRevCon! Crystal Clear Design = Well Thought Out Stacks "Whatever your level, you can produce extremely user-friendly Revolution applications quickly and easily. This lecture will focus on what you need to consider during your design process and then proceed, in a hands-on manner, to demonstrate and teach you how to make these design principles a reality! Will be covered: What is ergonomics; How to dissect your user's needs and processes; How to design for multiple platforms; How to plan your layout in advance; Designing and building a well thought out code architecture; Designing for a cross-language, multi-cultural and a psychologically diverse user base. You will learn how to make and use skins, custom drawings and controls, multilingual stacks, user preferences, help settings, unique drag and drops, and other secrets you can easily master to achieve your goals. Discover, in practice, how to bring your design and development process to a whole new level!" Seats are still available - send me an email if you are interested in attending. ciao, sims European Rev Conference 2006 www.techietours.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Klaus Major wrote: > can't you just use Trevors extraordinary EnhancedQT External for this > (and other extremely handy) task(s)? > No problems in a loop :-) Eric had the solution, so I don't have to now. The QT external would have been a little bit overkill, since I am only loading the player to get a snapshot and then I delete the player afterward. The stack doesn't actually need to run the players, it just stores a snapshot of them for visual reference. But I'm good to go now, and very appreciative of all the suggestions. Thanks everyone. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Eric Chatonet wrote: > > Obviously you tried all methods but without starting the player: > PlayLoudness > zero > repeat > load;start;[wait x ms];stop;set currentTime to zero;snapshot... > Not tested ;-) You're a genuis, it works! It's a little jerky, but I don't care. I added these lines to the loop: start player "temp" wait until the currentTime of player "temp" > 1 And it displays. :) Thank you! -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Would making something else happen in the loop force the screen to refresh? Perhaps setting and un-setting the hilite of a button or something. Best, Mark On 1 Oct 2006, at 06:42, J. Landman Gay wrote: Dar Scott wrote: > > On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:05 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> However, if I let the loop run at its natural speed, I get a bunch of >> blank snapshots, either because the content isn't fully loaded before >> the script continues, or because the screen isn't refreshing (I can't >> tell which.) I need a way to force the loop to wait until the player >> is fully loaded, and also something that will refresh the screen so >> that a snapshot has something to take a picture of. > > Just wild ideas that might have to be combined with other things: You > can try a wait. You can change the loop to a send cycle. You can do > something that directly depends on the content being loaded. Tried all varieties of "wait" but they didn't work. I'd thought of doing a "send" cycle but was hoping not to have to rewrite if anyone can think of anything else. Might have to do it though. I also tried to set the currentTime of the movie to the duration, which would force it to load in its entirety. Didn't work. That's one reason I think it may be more of a refresh problem than a loading problem. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Hi Jaqueline, I am trying to load a series of movies into players in a loop, in order to make thumbnails. Inside a repeat loop, I set each player's filename, then take a snapshot of it to get a thumbnail image. This works just fine when I step through it in the debugger. However, if I let the loop run at its natural speed, I get a bunch of blank snapshots, either because the content isn't fully loaded before the script continues, or because the screen isn't refreshing (I can't tell which.) I need a way to force the loop to wait until the player is fully loaded, and also something that will refresh the screen so that a snapshot has something to take a picture of. I have tried locking and unlocking the screen to force a redraw, tried "go this card" to force a redraw, tried waiting various amounts of time both with and without messages, tried "set the currentTime of player 1 to the duration of player 1" to force a full load, and everything else I can think of. In no case does the player content display. I am not sure if this is because the screen simply isn't redrawing (likely), or because the content isn't fully loading before the script continues (possible.) Anyone know how to solve this? can't you just use Trevors extraordinary EnhancedQT External for this (and other extremely handy) task(s)? No problems in a loop :-) And with the new version (already uploaded this one, Trevor?) there is no need for exporting a thumbnail to an external file, just put it into a variable and do whatever you want with the data. Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Hello Jacque, Obviously you tried all methods but without starting the player: PlayLoudness > zero repeat > load;start;[wait x ms];stop;set currentTime to zero;snapshot... Not tested ;-) Le 1 oct. 06 à 04:05, J. Landman Gay a écrit : I am trying to load a series of movies into players in a loop, in order to make thumbnails. Inside a repeat loop, I set each player's filename, then take a snapshot of it to get a thumbnail image. This works just fine when I step through it in the debugger. However, if I let the loop run at its natural speed, I get a bunch of blank snapshots, either because the content isn't fully loaded before the script continues, or because the screen isn't refreshing (I can't tell which.) I need a way to force the loop to wait until the player is fully loaded, and also something that will refresh the screen so that a snapshot has something to take a picture of. I have tried locking and unlocking the screen to force a redraw, tried "go this card" to force a redraw, tried waiting various amounts of time both with and without messages, tried "set the currentTime of player 1 to the duration of player 1" to force a full load, and everything else I can think of. In no case does the player content display. I am not sure if this is because the screen simply isn't redrawing (likely), or because the content isn't fully loading before the script continues (possible.) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Dar Scott wrote: > > On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:05 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> However, if I let the loop run at its natural speed, I get a bunch of >> blank snapshots, either because the content isn't fully loaded before >> the script continues, or because the screen isn't refreshing (I can't >> tell which.) I need a way to force the loop to wait until the player >> is fully loaded, and also something that will refresh the screen so >> that a snapshot has something to take a picture of. > > Just wild ideas that might have to be combined with other things: You > can try a wait. You can change the loop to a send cycle. You can do > something that directly depends on the content being loaded. Tried all varieties of "wait" but they didn't work. I'd thought of doing a "send" cycle but was hoping not to have to rewrite if anyone can think of anything else. Might have to do it though. I also tried to set the currentTime of the movie to the duration, which would force it to load in its entirety. Didn't work. That's one reason I think it may be more of a refresh problem than a loading problem. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:05 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: However, if I let the loop run at its natural speed, I get a bunch of blank snapshots, either because the content isn't fully loaded before the script continues, or because the screen isn't refreshing (I can't tell which.) I need a way to force the loop to wait until the player is fully loaded, and also something that will refresh the screen so that a snapshot has something to take a picture of. Just wild ideas that might have to be combined with other things: You can try a wait. You can change the loop to a send cycle. You can do something that directly depends on the content being loaded. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Phil Davis wrote: > Jackie, > > Have you tried setting the filename of the players to empty between > movies? I've seen that solve similar problems. Good idea, but these are all different players, each created on the fly as needed. It is looking to me like a combination of both OS X, which doesn't refresh the screen very often, and the Rev engine, which doesn't like to refresh the screen at all during a tight loop. Each player is on a different card, newly created and then loaded. But the screen isn't refreshing, so the snapshot takes a picture of nothing but the white space where the player should be. Stepping through the debugger works, because that forces the screen to refresh after each line of script. I need to do that inside the loop. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Waiting until a player is loaded
Jackie, Have you tried setting the filename of the players to empty between movies? I've seen that solve similar problems. Phil Davis J. Landman Gay wrote: I am trying to load a series of movies into players in a loop, in order to make thumbnails. Inside a repeat loop, I set each player's filename, then take a snapshot of it to get a thumbnail image. This works just fine when I step through it in the debugger. However, if I let the loop run at its natural speed, I get a bunch of blank snapshots, either because the content isn't fully loaded before the script continues, or because the screen isn't refreshing (I can't tell which.) I need a way to force the loop to wait until the player is fully loaded, and also something that will refresh the screen so that a snapshot has something to take a picture of. I have tried locking and unlocking the screen to force a redraw, tried "go this card" to force a redraw, tried waiting various amounts of time both with and without messages, tried "set the currentTime of player 1 to the duration of player 1" to force a full load, and everything else I can think of. In no case does the player content display. I am not sure if this is because the screen simply isn't redrawing (likely), or because the content isn't fully loading before the script continues (possible.) Anyone know how to solve this? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Waiting until a player is loaded
I am trying to load a series of movies into players in a loop, in order to make thumbnails. Inside a repeat loop, I set each player's filename, then take a snapshot of it to get a thumbnail image. This works just fine when I step through it in the debugger. However, if I let the loop run at its natural speed, I get a bunch of blank snapshots, either because the content isn't fully loaded before the script continues, or because the screen isn't refreshing (I can't tell which.) I need a way to force the loop to wait until the player is fully loaded, and also something that will refresh the screen so that a snapshot has something to take a picture of. I have tried locking and unlocking the screen to force a redraw, tried "go this card" to force a redraw, tried waiting various amounts of time both with and without messages, tried "set the currentTime of player 1 to the duration of player 1" to force a full load, and everything else I can think of. In no case does the player content display. I am not sure if this is because the screen simply isn't redrawing (likely), or because the content isn't fully loading before the script continues (possible.) Anyone know how to solve this? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
